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Title: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: raven on June 29, 2014, 10:30:01 pm
Sunday 1pm at Etihad.

Surely a win against the bottom side, if not we will be equal last on the ladder with just % keeping us above a number of sides.

Keep playing the young lads Mick!
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: Blue_MM on June 29, 2014, 10:56:21 pm
It'll be the wooden spoon play off!
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: denimundies on June 29, 2014, 11:00:45 pm
Don't mind loosing every remaining game for season except this one. This is the mob I dislike most. This is a must win!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: cookie2 on June 29, 2014, 11:06:35 pm
It'll be the wooden spoon play off!

That could be very close to the truth BMM!  >:(

We have to avoid that particular trophy at all costs.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: Blue_MM on June 29, 2014, 11:09:54 pm
It'll be the wooden spoon play off!

That could be very close to the truth BMM!  >:(

We have to avoid that particular trophy at all costs.

Pick No. 1 ain't good enough for ya Cookie? :P
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: BleedBlue on June 29, 2014, 11:40:58 pm
There are no positives, we are pathetic. last time I checked a loss is a loss and we have become the laughing stock of the competition. the sad and scarey thing is what separates us from the bottom is these teams that have all ready beaten us this year ?
not good , not good at all.
A coach that does not like the game, spoken like a man on the verge giving up or retiring.
A club that lacks a list and depth to match.
I looked at our entire list and thought to myself if these players went to Pies, Swans, Hawks or Cats. Would they even get a game in another side?
Very sad times , we have fallen upon dark days ....AGAIN !
I expect some flak over this .. but I love my club and this kills me
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: Mantis on June 30, 2014, 12:07:51 am
It'll be the wooden spoon play off!

Saints by 2 goals.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: LordLucifer on June 30, 2014, 12:09:11 am
Don't care about the result, really I don't !!

With our season down the tube, the only thing we can get out of the year is the development of the younger guys in the hope that we can sell a future to our membership base next year.

I just want to see some changes at the selection table and I want to see the serial offenders from tonight dropped permanently. McLean & Carrazzo are the first two to go, Armfield is finished as well !!

I'm looking to the future, it is imperative that we give senior games to the young guys now who not only warrant them, but are physically capable of handling the rigours of the game.

Johnson looks like he may have a future, gave some glimpses tonight so reward that by keeping him in the team. Bring in Graham and anyone else who is fit and ready to play !!

We will lose this match, we've lost to every other team below us so we may as well complete the set.  :P

Happy to get a stronger draft position as a benefit.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: Juddkreuzer on June 30, 2014, 12:33:01 am
It'll be the wooden spoon play off!

That could be very close to the truth BMM!  >:(

We have to avoid that particular trophy at all costs.

Pick No. 1 ain't good enough for ya Cookie? :P

Exactamundo. Cooksta those days are long gone because in an 18 team comp you are rewarded for finishing last and no-one remembers the spoon winner they only remember who won the flag. For me, its a season wasted to finish 12th as opposed to 17th or 18th and I bet the MC agree.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: crashlander on June 30, 2014, 09:22:47 am
Not sure there is the cattle to bring up, but a few guys need time in the VFL: Armfield played probably his worst game for us and simply did not look interested; Broke McLean couldn't get near it; Menzel barely had a possession; Hendo was useless until the last quarter; I could go one, but I won't. We need to introduce some youth.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: ItsOurTime on June 30, 2014, 09:32:47 am
I guess this will answer the tanking question. Can't believe we're going to be staring a spoon in the face after we hired a guy to get us a flag in Judd's time. Richmond special this one.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: cookie2 on June 30, 2014, 09:35:30 am
It'll be the wooden spoon play off!

That could be very close to the truth BMM!  >:(

We have to avoid that particular trophy at all costs.

Pick No. 1 ain't good enough for ya Cookie? :P

Pick 2 is almost as good and it doesn't come with a spoon!  ;D
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: cookie2 on June 30, 2014, 09:41:03 am
Don't care about the result, really I don't !!

With our season down the tube, the only thing we can get out of the year is the development of the younger guys in the hope that we can sell a future to our membership base next year.

I just want to see some changes at the selection table and I want to see the serial offenders from tonight dropped permanently. McLean & Carrazzo are the first two to go, Armfield is finished as well !!

I'm looking to the future, it is imperative that we give senior games to the young guys now who not only warrant them, but are physically capable of handling the rigours of the game.

Johnson looks like he may have a future, gave some glimpses tonight so reward that by keeping him in the team. Bring in Graham and anyone else who is fit and ready to play !!

We will lose this match, we've lost to every other team below us so we may as well complete the set.  :P

Happy to get a stronger draft position as a benefit.

Dead right Sheik, whilst we've got Broke, Carrots and Army in our midfield we ain't going anywhere. These three must be replaced with some class as a matter of priority.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on June 30, 2014, 09:43:56 am
Its the Pat McCartin cup.....play the kids and if we win great, if we lose its a better draft pick...
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: chookaradley on June 30, 2014, 10:09:34 am
Our last easily winnable game for the year. Lose this and we could conceivably go winless for the rest of the season, thus being a strong candidate to finish btm
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: madbluboy on June 30, 2014, 10:20:41 am
I'd be resting Judd this week.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: LP on June 30, 2014, 10:51:06 am
Sounds like Bell should be back!
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: Dominator_7 on June 30, 2014, 11:53:38 am
Might as well give Graham a go. Robbo will miss and Army has been disappointing this year, so he can replace either one.
Id bring Jeffy back as well, not that he warrants a spot, but there really isnt anyone else.

IN: Garlett Graham
OUT: Armfield, Robinson
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on June 30, 2014, 12:36:08 pm
Might as well give Graham a go. Robbo will miss and Army has been disappointing this year, so he can replace either one.
Id bring Jeffy back as well, not that he warrants a spot, but there really isnt anyone else.

IN: Garlett Graham
OUT: Armfield, Robinson


Dom...I think Bell might replace Robbo...... I can see Lenny Hayes, Armitage, Clint Jones etc  pushing our blokes around ....Murphy needs some blocks and Juddy
cant do it all especially for long periods anymore..

Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: cookie2 on June 30, 2014, 01:15:09 pm
Deckchairs on the Titanic spring to mind.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: bignic on June 30, 2014, 01:16:59 pm
Don't care about the result, really I don't !!

With our season down the tube, the only thing we can get out of the year is the development of the younger guys in the hope that we can sell a future to our membership base next year.

I just want to see some changes at the selection table and I want to see the serial offenders from tonight dropped permanently. McLean & Carrazzo are the first two to go, Armfield is finished as well !!

I'm looking to the future, it is imperative that we give senior games to the young guys now who not only warrant them, but are physically capable of handling the rigours of the game.

Johnson looks like he may have a future, gave some glimpses tonight so reward that by keeping him in the team. Bring in Graham and anyone else who is fit and ready to play !!

We will lose this match, we've lost to every other team below us so we may as well complete the set.  :P

Happy to get a stronger draft position as a benefit.

Agree with all the above.

Bell must come in for Robbo, Graham for Mclean.

Carrots, Mclean, Armfield ta ta at years end. Thanks carrots for the service, but times up. Waite is gone. Judd probably gone although he's a very proud man and his missus is a fanatic where he is concerned. Can recite all his stats and loves watching him play, so I can tell you for a fact that if he gives it away it will be his decision. She won't have any input at all except to support his decision if it's to retire.

I still need to see more from Rowe. He tackled well on Sunday particularly one against Cloke, but if you watch him carefully, he is still tentative on many occasions and that continues to worry me. He needs to get some mongrel in him over the Summer.

I wish Levi had the same ability at ground level that Kruezer has. Once the ball hits the ground, he's stuffed and if he can't imp[rove on that aspect of his game, then marking alone won't be enough to secure his future.

Simmo is playing like a bloke who knows that we can't play finals this year, and time is running out. Gibbs played like the millionaire that he has become. Had he put in like he did against Geelong, we win.
I'm convinced that Jammo is not 100% fit. Walker's disposal kills us and he should be up forward. Less damage there. Hendo improved a bit on Sunday, I hope he's over his slump in form.

Anyway, at least we will get some I hope decent draft picks and an easier draw next year.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: laj on June 30, 2014, 01:31:19 pm
We can't be that far off, we push everyone. A few changes to the list, a bigger change in attitude and work ethic wouldn't have us far off.

Pleased with the improvement in Rowe and Casboult, can only get better with further time, Daisy will be fitter next year, Dockerty look good, Menzel and Buckley will take further steps, Cripps will do better with a 2nd season in him, Gartlett can only improve, Kreuzer to come back, Hendo will do way better with a preseason. A couple of decent draft picks, so half decent work ethic for a change and things can hopefully get better. That last bit is a big key, we lack it big time and it screws us alot.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: blue4life on June 30, 2014, 01:55:13 pm
We can't be that far off, we push everyone. A few changes to the list, a bigger change in attitude and work ethic wouldn't have us far off.

Pleased with the improvement in Rowe and Casboult, can only get better with further time, Daisy will be fitter next year, Dockerty look good, Menzel and Buckley will take further steps, Cripps will do better with a 2nd season in him, Gartlett can only improve, Kreuzer to come back, Hendo will do way better with a preseason. A couple of decent draft picks, so half decent work ethic for a change and things can hopefully get better. That last bit is a big key, we lack it big time and it screws us alot.

Good post.
It looks bleak at the moment but it's not all doom and gloom.
We picked up four good footballers this year in Docherty, Cripps, Everitt and Thomas for the loss of Betts, if we can do the same again this off season we aren't far away, not top 4 next year but up with the pack.
I don't have a problem with our work ethic, it's our poor skills which concerns me the most, particularly by foot.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: cookie2 on June 30, 2014, 02:07:04 pm
We can't be that far off, we push everyone. A few changes to the list, a bigger change in attitude and work ethic wouldn't have us far off.

Pleased with the improvement in Rowe and Casboult, can only get better with further time, Daisy will be fitter next year, Dockerty look good, Menzel and Buckley will take further steps, Cripps will do better with a 2nd season in him, Gartlett can only improve, Kreuzer to come back, Hendo will do way better with a preseason. A couple of decent draft picks, so half decent work ethic for a change and things can hopefully get better. That last bit is a big key, we lack it big time and it screws us alot.

Good post.
It looks bleak at the moment but it's not all doom and gloom.
We picked up four good footballers this year in Docherty, Cripps, Everitt and Thomas for the loss of Betts, if we can do the same again this off season we aren't far away, not top 4 next year but up with the pack.
I don't have a problem with our work ethic, it's our poor skills which concerns me the most, particularly by foot.

If we could pick up a good quality KPF or KPD together with three class mids I would be a lot more optimistic.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: laj on June 30, 2014, 02:21:48 pm
We can't be that far off, we push everyone. A few changes to the list, a bigger change in attitude and work ethic wouldn't have us far off.

Pleased with the improvement in Rowe and Casboult, can only get better with further time, Daisy will be fitter next year, Dockerty look good, Menzel and Buckley will take further steps, Cripps will do better with a 2nd season in him, Gartlett can only improve, Kreuzer to come back, Hendo will do way better with a preseason. A couple of decent draft picks, so half decent work ethic for a change and things can hopefully get better. That last bit is a big key, we lack it big time and it screws us alot.

Good post.
It looks bleak at the moment but it's not all doom and gloom.
We picked up four good footballers this year in Docherty, Cripps, Everitt and Thomas for the loss of Betts, if we can do the same again this off season we aren't far away, not top 4 next year but up with the pack.
I don't have a problem with our work ethic, it's our poor skills which concerns me the most, particularly by foot.

If we could pick up a good quality KPF or KPD together with three class mids I would be a lot more optimistic.

James Frawley is a free agent. We should be chasing hard.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: blue4life on June 30, 2014, 02:27:38 pm
If we could pick up a good quality KPF or KPD together with three class mids I would be a lot more optimistic.

We've needed a key forward since Sticks retired, Fevola was a goal kicker but you need a pack breaker who feeds the smaller blokes even more than someone who kicks the odd bag.
Walls, Spalding and MacLure types.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on June 30, 2014, 04:03:51 pm
We can't be that far off, we push everyone. A few changes to the list, a bigger change in attitude and work ethic wouldn't have us far off.

Pleased with the improvement in Rowe and Casboult, can only get better with further time, Daisy will be fitter next year, Dockerty look good, Menzel and Buckley will take further steps, Cripps will do better with a 2nd season in him, Gartlett can only improve, Kreuzer to come back, Hendo will do way better with a preseason. A couple of decent draft picks, so half decent work ethic for a change and things can hopefully get better. That last bit is a big key, we lack it big time and it screws us alot.

Docherty has to get tougher, uses the handbrake on some contests,,,

Garlett shirks too many tough situations

Casboult was the bad kicking Casboult with a funny angled run...

Kruezer...I'd be happy if he could just stay on the park....

Cripps, Holman, Buckley, Menzel will all be better..

Daisy looks shot...that ankle isnt right and he lacks pace and cant kick any distance..

Rowe....much better and is a good senior player now who can hold down a backline position.

Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: laj on June 30, 2014, 07:58:39 pm
We can't be that far off, we push everyone. A few changes to the list, a bigger change in attitude and work ethic wouldn't have us far off.

Pleased with the improvement in Rowe and Casboult, can only get better with further time, Daisy will be fitter next year, Dockerty look good, Menzel and Buckley will take further steps, Cripps will do better with a 2nd season in him, Gartlett can only improve, Kreuzer to come back, Hendo will do way better with a preseason. A couple of decent draft picks, so half decent work ethic for a change and things can hopefully get better. That last bit is a big key, we lack it big time and it screws us alot.

Docherty has to get tougher, uses the handbrake on some contests,,,

Garlett shirks too many tough situations

Casboult was the bad kicking Casboult with a funny angled run...

Kruezer...I'd be happy if he could just stay on the park....

Cripps, Holman, Buckley, Menzel will all be better..

Daisy looks shot...that ankle isnt right and he lacks pace and cant kick any distance..

Rowe....much better and is a good senior player now who can hold down a backline position.

All can and probably will get better than than they are playing now. Daisy might not be fit now but could well be better next year. You would think so. Gartlett shirks the odd contest but can kick 40 odd when in better form, as he has before. He's finding it a bit tougher with Eddie as he's the no.1 small forward now. Betts was a gun and we miss him badly. I'm sure we'll get more out of Walker too. He's alot better when he's not in defence. We run good sides close. improved output and work ethic can only help.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on June 30, 2014, 08:17:14 pm
We can't be that far off, we push everyone. A few changes to the list, a bigger change in attitude and work ethic wouldn't have us far off.

Pleased with the improvement in Rowe and Casboult, can only get better with further time, Daisy will be fitter next year, Dockerty look good, Menzel and Buckley will take further steps, Cripps will do better with a 2nd season in him, Gartlett can only improve, Kreuzer to come back, Hendo will do way better with a preseason. A couple of decent draft picks, so half decent work ethic for a change and things can hopefully get better. That last bit is a big key, we lack it big time and it screws us alot.

Good post.
It looks bleak at the moment but it's not all doom and gloom.
We picked up four good footballers this year in Docherty, Cripps, Everitt and Thomas for the loss of Betts, if we can do the same again this off season we aren't far away, not top 4 next year but up with the pack.
I don't have a problem with our work ethic, it's our poor skills which concerns me the most, particularly by foot.

If we could pick up a good quality KPF or KPD together with three class mids I would be a lot more optimistic.

James Frawley is a free agent. We should be chasing hard.

At 500k a year I would agree...at 700k plus,,I think we should say No....
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: emtwenty on July 03, 2014, 06:44:57 pm
Holman  :), Graham, Bell & White IN. Robbo OUT.

Interchange from: curnow, holman, graham, mclean, armfield, johnson & bell.

promising signs with armfield & brock on the bench. hopefully them + 1 or 2 others make way for some of the Ins.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: cimm1979 on July 03, 2014, 07:06:28 pm
Holman  :), Graham, Bell & White IN. Robbo OUT.

Interchange from: curnow, holman, graham, mclean, armfield, johnson & bell.

promising signs with armfield & brock on the bench. hopefully them + 1 or 2 others make way for some of the Ins.

I reckon Holman for Armfield and Graham for Brock.

Scratch that.

I forgot Johnson will probably get another run.

No way Mick will play 3 kids.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: crashlander on July 03, 2014, 08:03:40 pm
CARLTON v ST KILDA, Etihad Stadium, Sunday July 6, 1.10pm (AEST)
MATCH PREVIEW


B Zach Tuohy, Michael Jamison, Sam Rowe
 HB Simon White, Andrew Walker, Andrejs Everitt
 C Dale Thomas, Andrew Carrazzo, Sam Docherty
 HF Troy Menzel, Lachie Henderson, Kade Simpson
 F Bryce Gibbs, Levi Casboult, Chris Yarran
 FOL Robert Warnock, Chris Judd, Marc Murphy
 I/C From: Dennis Armfield, Nick Graham, Blaine Johnson, Brock McLean, Tom Bell, Ed Curnow, Nick Holman
 IN Simon White, Nick Graham, Tom Bell, Nick Holman
 OUT Mitch Robinson (Suspension)


B Sean Dempster, Luke Delaney, Jack Newnes
 HB Cameron Shenton, James Gwilt, Shane Savage
 C Jack Steven, David Armitage, Leigh Montagna
 HF Lenny Hayes, Nick Riewoldt, Luke Dunstan
 F Darren Minchington, Rhys Stanley, Jack Billings
 FOL Billy Longer, Maverick Weller, Sebastian Ross
 I/C Clinton Jones, Trent Dennis-Lane, Adam Schneider, Dylan Roberton, Farren Ray, Tom Simpkin, Terry Milera
 IN Trent Dennis-Lane, Adam Schneider, Dylan Roberton, Farren Ray
 OUT Jimmy Webster (Foot)

As Tom Bell is NOT named in the VFL, it is quite probable that he will be playing. Not sure I'd do that, but....
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on July 03, 2014, 08:13:00 pm
Holman  :), Graham, Bell & White IN. Robbo OUT.

Interchange from: curnow, holman, graham, mclean, armfield, johnson & bell.

promising signs with armfield & brock on the bench. hopefully them + 1 or 2 others make way for some of the Ins.

I reckon Holman for Armfield and Graham for Brock.

Scratch that.

I forgot Johnson will probably get another run.

No way Mick will play 3 kids.


Bell in for Robbo, Holman in for Armfield...they would be my guesses
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: blue4life on July 03, 2014, 08:37:20 pm

Bell in for Robbo, Holman in for Armfield...they would be my guesses

White's been named in the 18 so he's in for someone, I think Holman, Graham and Armfield will miss out.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on July 03, 2014, 08:40:10 pm

Bell in for Robbo, Holman in for Armfield...they would be my guesses

White's been named in the 18 so he's in for someone, I think Holman, Graham and Armfield will miss out.

Fair point B4L..forgot about White.... :-[
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: blue4life on July 03, 2014, 08:45:17 pm

Bell in for Robbo, Holman in for Armfield...they would be my guesses

White's been named in the 18 so he's in for someone, I think Holman, Graham and Armfield will miss out.

Fair point B4L..forgot about White.... :-[

No worries EB, he's pretty forgettable according to a lot of Carlton supporters I know.
Personally I think he's improved this season, unfortunately Waite, Watson, Garlett, Armfield and Lucas have all gone backwards.  :(
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: DJC on July 03, 2014, 08:54:42 pm
Isn't White out for a couple of weeks with a knee injury  ???
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: dodge on July 03, 2014, 08:55:18 pm
Wonder if we can stick to our game plan this week - copy the opposition's plan but don't be as good at it. If we are failing ie in front,  go to plan b, which is to pretend we're not on the ground anymore until the opposition are in front again.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: MosquitoFleet on July 03, 2014, 09:02:15 pm
Saints by 2 goals
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: Juddkreuzer on July 04, 2014, 12:49:27 am
Saints by 2 goals

[flash=400,400]http://www.youtube.com/v/GLvohMXgcBo[/flash]
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: cimm1979 on July 04, 2014, 12:58:28 am
Saints by 2 goals

[flash=400,400]http://www.youtube.com/v/GLvohMXgcBo[/flash]

 ;D
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: MosquitoFleet on July 04, 2014, 08:35:23 am
@cimm @ judd
...groupthink.....
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: LordLucifer on July 04, 2014, 04:42:53 pm
Quote
The Blues have made two changes, bringing in Simon White and Tom Bell.

Mitch Robinson is out suspended while Dennis Armfield has been omitted.

Good to see Johnson gets retained and given another chance to show his wares.

Robinson out & Bell in is a like for like, will be paying some attention to Bell to see how he goes given Robbo has been alright the last couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: blue4life on July 04, 2014, 06:20:00 pm
Quote
The Blues have made two changes, bringing in Simon White and Tom Bell.

Mitch Robinson is out suspended while Dennis Armfield has been omitted.

Good to see Johnson gets retained and given another chance to show his wares.

Robinson out & Bell in is a like for like, will be paying some attention to Bell to see how he goes given Robbo has been alright the last couple of weeks.

I think that while Bell shows some promise and has a good attitude he's well short of Robbo at this stage, White is an upgrade on Armfield given Army's recent form but overall it's a slightly weaker team than last week.
You can bet that Jones will wear Murphy like a glove but St Kilda aren't travelling well at all and it should be a win for The Blues by 3 or 4 goals at least.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: emtwenty on July 04, 2014, 06:24:22 pm
Quote
The Blues have made two changes, bringing in Simon White and Tom Bell.

Mitch Robinson is out suspended while Dennis Armfield has been omitted.

Good to see Johnson gets retained and given another chance to show his wares.

Robinson out & Bell in is a like for like, will be paying some attention to Bell to see how he goes given Robbo has been alright the last couple of weeks.

I think that while Bell shows some promise and has a good attitude he's well short of Robbo at this stage, White is an upgrade on Armfield given Army's recent form but overall it's a slightly weaker team than last week.
You can bet that Jones will wear Murphy like a glove but St Kilda aren't travelling well at all and it should be a win for The Blues by 3 or 4 goals at least.
Hope Jones wears Murph as tight as he wore Cotchin last week  ;D

EDIT: jones got dropped. Makes sense given Cotchin kicked 5 and had 30 disposals on him.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: blue4life on July 04, 2014, 08:25:33 pm

Hope Jones wears Murph as tight as he wore Cotchin last week  ;D

EDIT: jones got dropped. Makes sense given Cotchin kicked 5 and had 30 disposals on him.

Fair enough, I don't pay much attention to St Kilda.
So who gets Murph?
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: emtwenty on July 04, 2014, 09:52:39 pm

Hope Jones wears Murph as tight as he wore Cotchin last week  ;D

EDIT: jones got dropped. Makes sense given Cotchin kicked 5 and had 30 disposals on him.

Fair enough, I don't pay much attention to St Kilda.
So who gets Murph?

I'm thinking Weller. Curren tagged him last time but he's not playing either.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: ItsOurTime on July 05, 2014, 08:58:15 am
Anyone see Doc's interview yesterday where. He said earlier in the year we were taking it easy against lesser teams but we can't do that now?

Couple that with Mick picking out Curnow and criticising outcomes instead of effort/process (works with praise not just criticism)...

I tell you, I think everyone believes we're tanking and we'll bounce back and we probably will early next year and then it will be back to the old crap.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on July 05, 2014, 09:56:54 am

Hope Jones wears Murph as tight as he wore Cotchin last week  ;D

EDIT: jones got dropped. Makes sense given Cotchin kicked 5 and had 30 disposals on him.

Fair enough, I don't pay much attention to St Kilda.
So who gets Murph?


Farren Ray will probably get Gibbs and I reckon someone like Dunstan might get Murphy.....
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: Raydan on July 05, 2014, 10:14:47 am
I'm surprised by McLean still getting a game this week. What I'd like to see is for Brock to sacrifice his game some and concentrate on blocking for Murphy and Gibbs around stoppages, that is now where he can give real value to the team. Get 10-15 touches, 5-10 tackles and open if Murphy get 30+ touches then Brock gets a game again next week.

If Murph get 30+ and Gibbs does the same then we probably win by a good margin as they are two players who do something with the ball. Just imagine if Yarran also got 30+ 8)
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: DJC on July 05, 2014, 12:43:17 pm
Bell is named in the final NBs lineup  ???
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: denimundies on July 05, 2014, 01:05:11 pm
Is anyone missing Saturday Blues games?. I'm sick of playing on Friday, Monday and Sunday.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: Raydan on July 05, 2014, 01:09:59 pm
YEP!

That's one of the big reasons last week was such a poor crowd, it was the third Sunday night game we got this season, the novelty had worn off. Combine that with the crap way the game is being played and umpired, the weather and our seasons results and I'm surprised that there was that many.

A great side note to last weekends game is to know that even with a loss we can still hurt Collingwood. >:D
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: emtwenty on July 05, 2014, 01:51:48 pm
Anyone see Doc's interview yesterday where. He said earlier in the year we were taking it easy against lesser teams but we can't do that now?

Couple that with Mick picking out Curnow and criticising outcomes instead of effort/process (works with praise not just criticism)...

I tell you, I think everyone believes we're tanking and we'll bounce back and we probably will early next year and then it will be back to the old crap.
Yarran said the same thing as Doc in the paper before we played St Kilda on the Monday night. He mentioned the Melbourne game especially. On what planet do they think we can take any game easily?
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: denimundies on July 05, 2014, 02:23:07 pm
YEP!

That's one of the big reasons last week was such a poor crowd, it was the third Sunday night game we got this season, the novelty had worn off. Combine that with the crap way the game is being played and umpired, the weather and our seasons results and I'm surprised that there was that many.

A great side note to last weekends game is to know that even with a loss we can still hurt Collingwood. >:D

Furthermore,  am suffering from something I never thought possible, "footy overload". I can no longer muster interest to watch games of footy, in which Carlton aren't  playing, for more than 5 consecutive mins.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: Raydan on July 05, 2014, 03:22:13 pm
YEP!

That's one of the big reasons last week was such a poor crowd, it was the third Sunday night game we got this season, the novelty had worn off. Combine that with the crap way the game is being played and umpired, the weather and our seasons results and I'm surprised that there was that many.

A great side note to last weekends game is to know that even with a loss we can still hurt Collingwood. >:D

Furthermore,  am suffering from something I never thought possible, "footy overload". I can no longer muster interest to watch games of footy, in which Carlton aren't  playing, for more than 5 consecutive mins.

Is it footy overload or crap footy overload?

I found myself enjoying the game last night especially the last quarter, any game with Port I enjoy also and the Brisbane North game last week also kept my interest.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: cookie2 on July 05, 2014, 04:41:02 pm
Is anyone missing Saturday Blues games?. I'm sick of playing on Friday, Monday and Sunday.

Definitely. Sunday night games especially sh1te me! I'd love more Sat arvo games at the G.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: Professer E on July 05, 2014, 08:03:49 pm
I almost drove off the road in disbelief when I heard Watson senior say on SEN that our draw was seemingly designed to pull the smallest possible crowd.... The worst scheduling possible.

Unless we start winning and pulling crowds expect an apalling draw and schedule in 2015.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: Bear on July 05, 2014, 08:11:30 pm
Hopefully we get stuck with the graveyard slot - Saturday afternoon.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on July 05, 2014, 08:51:41 pm
Blues to beat Saints by 16 points....no Hayes gives our mids a real advantage and no Clint Jones means Murphy will probably have an eaiser night.
No excuses if we lose this one...
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: denimundies on July 05, 2014, 11:43:22 pm
YEP!

That's one of the big reasons last week was such a poor crowd, it was the third Sunday night game we got this season, the novelty had worn off. Combine that with the crap way the game is being played and umpired, the weather and our seasons results and I'm surprised that there was that many.

A great side note to last weekends game is to know that even with a loss we can still hurt Collingwood. >:D

Furthermore,  am suffering from something I never thought possible, "footy overload". I can no longer muster interest to watch games of footy, in which Carlton aren't  playing, for more than 5 consecutive mins.

Is it footy overload or crap footy overload?

I found myself enjoying the game last night especially the last quarter, any game with Port I enjoy also and the Brisbane North game last week also kept my interest.

Probably both ie Crap and overload. My wife changes channel to footy expecting I'd want to watch it but I just CBB. I'm just over the way it's adminstered and all the angst that goes with it. Also the game has become almost robotic, the characters are gone, and there's no games of which the result meaningfully effect our prospects so I just CBB.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: Thryleon on July 05, 2014, 11:56:08 pm
The umpiring is deadset ridiculous.  I've seen blokes tackled in the process of trying to drop boot to ball with the result of ball in dispute and play on when it should have been holding the ball, or incorrect disposal at least five times in the last quarter in the Port vs Bombers match.  It's frustrating.  Clear as day incorrect disposal and nothing.  Blokes handing the footy off, it's not what the sports about.
Title: Re: Round 16 - Blues vs Saints. Pre - Game Thread
Post by: Blue_MM on July 06, 2014, 12:11:57 pm
What is with Bell being the sub!?

He's not an impact player. We need him running around bashing bodies from the first bounce. He needs to be told to run with Juddy, and belt up anyone who lays a finger on him. Not strap on the green vest!