Cripps hurt his back and Murphy supposedly tweaked the knee in a training session but pulled up okay. Should be interesting to see how he goes.
Cripps injury about as real as the Easter bunny.
Another tagger/defensive player in.
Cripps hurt his back and Murphy supposedly tweaked the knee in a training session but pulled up okay. Should be interesting to see how he goes.
Further to his tweaking his knee at training. Apparantly he has been having injections and getting it drained regularly (weekly?) for 12 months now! :o
Carlton by 18
Ellard 3 goals. :D
(Saturday lotto 3 7 11 17 24 25)
I'm feeling very predictive ;D
Further to his tweaking his knee at training. Apparantly he has been having injections and getting it drained regularly (weekly?) for 12 months now! :o
His knee will need to be managed for the rest of his career then. This further confirms my thoughts that unfortunately, we have seen the best of Murph. :-[
His knee will need to be managed for the rest of his career then. This further confirms my thoughts that unfortunately, we have seen the best of Murph. :-[
Stab right in the heart of the next wave of players if this is the case.
Further to his tweaking his knee at training. Apparantly he has been having injections and getting it drained regularly (weekly?) for 12 months now! :o
Is that what was reported or just rumour?
Is that what was reported or just rumour?
On fox footy...think it was Eddie
(spies in our midst)
Is that what was reported or just rumour?
Reported on the pre show before main game on fox footy
Im worried about Lecras and Nicnat. They could drill us new ones.
Fork me that is forked. Our two highest paid players are broken.
Carrots addressed the players in the huddle, had the jugular going.
Big goal from Zakynthos Tuohy!
Excellent run from Yazz.
NicNat looks dangerous, Hendo looks dangerous for us. Also looks like Michael Cera with that haircut
Fast start by both.
Judd is superman.
Judd is superman.
He's definitely happy not to have Selwood riding him.
Was the Judd free against his own man? :-\
If that wasn't hands in the back Ill be a monkeys uncle.
2 silly mistakes, 2 goals.
White hobbles off, his man scores. FMD
That goal came purely because 2 of our big forwards went for the same Mark. Shizen stuff.
Clem warming up...
White injured is bad news, as we're already a man down with Murphy out there.
Is Gibbs playing......FMD
Judd on fire
Eagles paying zero respect to Everritt and he makes them pay nicely.
Nice Murph. Judd having some sort of game.
Thats how I forken like it. Desperate.
Okay Murph, you are forgiven
The Midfield were on top early, and defensive pressure was good. However Carrazzo took a knock early and had to go off and Smith came on as Sub early again.
What a jinx :P
Great goal from Murph
Rowe made that look so easy when he stopped the ball, was awesome
The loss of White is massive. Bar a couple of brain fades and ball butchering, fair quarter by the Blues.
Great start but I can't help but wonder what would be if Judd wasn't out there. Gibbs lifted late in the quarter.
Is Gibbs playing......FMD
7 disposals / 6 tackles!! He's fine
Is Gibbs playing......FMD
Menzel says Hi
The usual good 1st q effort. 3 quarters to go. Sigh...........
WCE's skills are very ordinary.
And yes - Judd - worth every nickel we paid for him.
The loss of White is massive. Bar a couple of brain fades and ball butchering, fair quarter by the Blues.
Agreed. Their goals came as a result of a terrible kick by Simpson to the centre, a non tackle by Gibbs that allowed them to get it out of the centre and the Shuey free kick which is going to happen.
We had some good intensity and decent disposal. And the players looks engaged. Lots of shouting and hand movements. Thankfully the Carrots holding the ball was late in the quarter. But that happens too often.
Though Menzel's off the ball work to cause a scrubber kick into the Weagles forward line was a highlight.
Judd awesome.
Incidental stat from Ling - we were 18th for corridor use last season.
Solid enough start with a few errors still causing concern. If Gibbs starts playing we might look more dangerous.
2 CFC forwards soil each other. Come on lads.
Let's see if we can manage to score every quarter. I suspect there will be a fade-out at some stage.
Yarran doesn't run and carry as much as he used to. Not happy.
2 CFC forwards soil each other. Come on lads.
:o enough to give you the craps ;D
We are CRAP
That crap effort from Yarran was just that, crap
Not hard enough Chris Yarran
Ummm...Yarran..use your hands and not shoulders...they have a longer reach...
Idiot Gibbs. What was he thinking...
Idiot Gibbs. What was he thinking...
That 3 WC players were going to stroll into an open goal if he didn't drag it in ;)
This has got last week written all over it.
2ndquarterhorriblous, the new disease.
Lol Yarran. Go forward please
We don't have the foot skills to execute those 20-30m kicks in our D50 - not even Yazz
Our problems are 120% above the shoulders.
Wooooooooooobly
We go home at the 15 min mark of second quarters....
so slow to move the ball. again.
Love this umpiring, can we have some too?
If we can't maintain our composure against the Cokers (who are ordinary).................
Did I just see wood on Kennedy?
This question has been asked a million times - who's teaching our guys to tackle ?
How many of our kicks getting smothered FFS
Geez, Menzel is making that hbf look like the hardest spot on the ground the last little bit
Does this friggin umpiring only go one way?
APart from small passages here and there, both teams are terrible.
Different teams different rules....
no direction, no tackling pressure, rudderless at best
FFS we had 2 extra men at that contest and we lost it. How?
Murphy attempting to tackle front-on never ends well.
No movement, no direction, no skills, no idea
Going wide, going nowhere. If this is all you've got Mick, give it away.
See that wide angle shot, not a single Carlton player moving to create a target. Lazy fcuks
Cokers have been parked in our D50 for ages - we're still in the contest because they're average.
Well it was holding but wrong bloke, nice goal ump.
In our half of the ground for 30% if the quarter. We should be 6 goals down.
Another "interesting" umpiring decision!
Umpire just shot us in the back of the head, game over.
I'm gonna call it, this game is over.
This quarter epitomises where we are at. If the Eagles were competent it would be six goal margin at half time.
No on field leadership. And they've gotten most of the frees.
See that wide angle shot, not a single Carlton player moving to create a target. Lazy fcuks
Amen. No running..just watching..waiting for someone to lead the way..and our leaders are clueless
I'm gonna call it, this game is over.
Yep.
How many goalless quarters have we had under Mick?
Are we the only side in the league who can't deal with the wall or zone when kicking out?
This quarter epitomises where we are at. If the Eagles were competent it would be six goal margin at half time.
No on field leadership. And they've gotten most of the frees.
Forget frees...we are not hard enough strong enough skillful enough for long enough ...murp gibbs jamo carrozzo garbage
Forget frees...we are not hard enough strong enough skillful enough for long enough ...murp gibbs jamo carrozzo garbage
I agreed. Frees are a minimal aspect of this rubbish. We can't play more than 20 minutes without chucking it in.
Why don't we get frees when our forwards are held, lycett manhandled wood, pridfis throws it??? FMD there's two sides playing maggots!
Shameful quarter, played entirely in one half. Wow. The panic has set in.
How many goalless quarters have we had under Mick?
How many free kickless quarters have we had in our history.
Here's a stat for ya.
Free Kicks for the first half:
West Coast - 14
Carlton -3 (ZERO that quarter).
Plenty of 50-50's that the home ground is convincing the umps are there.
When the game is only 30 minutes, we're a real show. >:(
Can't claim injuries as they've started the game missing two of their best defenders. Eagles should have put this game away by now.
Looking like a long season.
We have 8-10 good players. When they go hard we score. When they run out of puff or take a breather, we don't. As predicted the fade out happened.
All that happened was they stopped Judd. Just like last week, the rest of the team is playing about at the same level as they started.
We are a very low skilled footy team I'm afraid. Error riddled quarter where our forwards hardly caught sight of the ball. I think we've run out of legs already, don't fancy us much in the second half.
Also, why are we incapable of dealing with things when they push a man back. Why aren't we smart enough to either man up that guy or set up our structures to nullify that position.
Forget frees...we are not hard enough strong enough skillful enough for long enough ...murp gibbs jamo carrozzo garbage
7-0 free kick count that quarter......pretty hard to forget that
Pathetic. We can bemoan all we like about Mick being past it but these blokes have the poorest skills of a side in the AFL bar none.
How many free kickless quarters have we had in our history.
Here's a stat for ya.
Free Kicks for the first half:
West Coast - 14
Carlton -3 (ZERO that quarter).
Plenty of 50-50's that the home ground is convincing the umps are there.
We did tackle their necks for a chunk of that quarter. Though the Toooey throw was arguable. Also Menzel was clobbered high but got nothing.
Nup... This club is f.....d....too much propaganda, no class!
7-0 free kick count that quarter......pretty hard to forget that
Agree on the umpiring - biased against us without doubt. Let's hope they square up in the second half.
Pathetic. We can bemoan all we like about Mick being past it but these blokes have the poorest skills of a side in the AFL bar none.
Don't we have a skill coach. And skills aside, where's the pressure. And why are we tackling guys around the neck? I counted three instances in that quarter.
But our skills and the constant fumbling is amateur level. They are mentally weak. And as far as I'm concerned their mental state is the responsibility of the coach.
We are the masters at simply giving up. Been a problem for a long time and it continues. We've made an art form of it.
Our on-field culture is putrid.
Did White come into the game under an injury cloud??
Umpires are completely blind. Free kick count is ridiculous.
No score for the second quarter is just pathetic.
Our tackling in the second quarter is almost non existing. They were 14-3 tackles up half way through the second quarter.
Losing White is going to cost us. Clem is just too green for AFL football. For a whole game almost.
I really cant see how we are going to win. They have 2 key defenders out, no Selwood and we still can't trouble them ??? ::)
OK. So we have top beat 25 of them, I'm including the umps as if you didn't know.
BUT, let's be honest. If we had played a quarter like that and got the return for effort that WC got, we'd be screaming about the missed opportunities.
So I think we are still in it.
BUT, Rowe is screwn useless, Gibbs is a squib, Murphy can't tackle, and in a one on one fell over as he always does, they still love to grab blokes around the neck even though they have a whole body to tackle, there is NO forward line, they are fumbling the ball like my 4 year old grandson, and they have no plan B, C, D, or Z to get the ball out of defence.
SO, it's now up to Mick to blow shiiiiit out of them at their pissweak quarter and terrible decision making, and let's see if they can actually iut the Eagles under pressure for two quarters.
We are the masters at simply giving up. Been a problem for a long time and it continues. We've made an art form of it.
Our on-field culture is putrid.
It's ok though because early next week the carlton football club website will tell us how good we were twenty years ago.
soft, soft and soft.
Gibbs, Murphy top 2 at that.
Lack of basic skill when the pressure is on. Question was asked early in a thread , what sort of player do we need, well it's been answered again, we need well, some like Kennedy, a big CHF who can demand the ball, his 3 goals making a big difference. We don't currently have a forward line with the skill & aggression that makes a difference. We got away with it when Betts & Garlett were there, but let's be honest the cupboard is bare
Pathetic. We can bemoan all we like about Mick being past it but these blokes have the poorest skills of a side in the AFL bar none.
Skills were ok in the 1st qtr.
We did tackle their necks for a chunk of that quarter. Though the Toooey throw was arguable. Also Menzel was clobbered high but got nothing.
Which reminds me. I thought the rule was "If a player contributed to the high contact it should be called 'play on' "
So why do they still play the swinging arm up which forces the high contact???
Umpires are completely blind. Free kick count is ridiculous.
No score for the second quarter is just pathetic.
Our tackling in the second quarter is almost non existing. They were 14-3 tackles up half way through the second quarter.
Losing White is going to cost us. Clem is just too green for AFL football. For a whole game almost.
I really cant see how we are going to win. They have 2 key defenders out, no Selwood and we still can't trouble them ??? ::)
Armfield would have been a great in.
Pathetic. We can bemoan all we like about Mick being past it but these blokes have the poorest skills of a side in the AFL bar none.
The house that Mick built. Blokes that were destined for delisting now play major roles in the side. Rowe, Curnow, White, Ellard etc.
West Coast kick 3 goals 7 for the quarter is the only thing still keeping us in the game. If it was 7 goals 3 it would be all over. If our intensity doesn't match our first quarter, I will ask Mick to be sacked.
Did White come into the game under an injury cloud??
According to the fox boys, yes. What that is based on? I hope its more than him simply having his knee strapped. He had it strapped before last week too. So whatever injury cloud he was under, he was under before he was BOG last week. :-X
I hesitate to call us a "one man side".....but they managed to curb Judd that quarter and that was significant.
He's stuffed at half time btw.
Wonder how many others have given a similar effort
Armfield as a sub would have helped us some. Judd looks like he is trying to carry the squad all over again. Many need to lift to support his efforts.
I don't know what to say really, too many passengers & some players who are past it eg. Carrazzo.
The house that Mick built. Blokes that were destined for delisting now play major roles in the side. Rowe, Curnow, White, Ellard etc.
I'm with you carrrots, they let their hearts rule their heads about Rowe, Curnow should get a job as a fly catcher in the Northern Territory. Only has to stand there with his mouth open, will catch thousands like a Venus Fly trap, Ellard tries hard, but wouldn't get a game in any top side, Whiter tries hard but is too injury prone.
The house that Mick built. Blokes that were destined for delisting now play major roles in the side. Rowe, Curnow, White, Ellard etc.
Not sure if you are watching on foxtel, but pre-game there was a 50-50 question posed to 6 people.
Is it the cattle or is it the coach?
4 went for the cattle. The other 2 went for a third option they made up, the club.
Armfield as a sub would have helped us some.
He's just another hack that does some flashy things but also wouldn't get a game in another 17 teams. Should have gone at the end of last year.
Hendo, Jones and Levi statistically have been woeful. Also:
Hit outs 35 to 11
Tackles 47 to 36
Frees 14 to 3
Just saw half time in the rooms, Murphy standing mute while Judd pumped up the troops, Carrazzo did the same before the game. The poor bugger is just not leadership material, no reflection on his skill, that goal was gold, but he does not inspire, reckon they gave him the job so he would sign long time. Would anyone ever really give Swan the filth captaincy.....
He's just another hack that does some flashy things but also wouldn't get a game in another 17 teams. Should have gone at the end of last year.
Would Clem have done more for us so far ?
Hendo, Jones and Levi statistically have been woeful. Also:
Hit outs 35 to 11
Tackles 47 to 36
Frees 14 to 3
The umps are doing their typical West Coast thing, but it's up to our blokes to put their heads down and bodies on the line and be first to the ball.
Gibbs is the biggest turn over merchant in the AFL and Murphy ain't far behind him.
Watch the first half closely and see how many times Gibbs is involved in a goal being scored against us, a turn over or simply being a fumbly spastic.
The guy has a reputation that reads he is an elite user and an A Grader. F*ck me that couldn't be further from the truth. He struts around like his sh*t don't stink. screwin' greater pretender I have not seen in my lifetime.
Bryce, just f*ck off...
I never see Spanner swear, so that really says heaps about our side.
Would Clem have done more for us so far ?
Clem is 19. I can tell you one thing, he will be a thousand times better than Armfield in the future.
We are a very ordinary team and a long way from the top teams, and we need to play the young blokes. Bugger mick, it's not about him, it's about the long term future.
Our forwards are average but give them no hope the way we move the ball and deliver it - simply the worst i have ever seen.
I hesitate to call us a "one man side".....but they managed to curb Judd that quarter and that was significant.
He's stuffed at half time btw.
Wonder how many others have given a similar effort
I don't know if i'm watching a different game to the rest of the people here, but what i saw was....
1. Absolutely ZERO help from the umpires.
2. Complete domination by West Coast that quarter (and the umps)
3. Ball winners (spec. Judd) blanketed.
They had about the best quarter they could've expected to have and we had about our worst.
*checks scoreboard*
Yep, if we get our fair share of the ball and the play, 2 goals (soon to be 3) is nothing we can't overcome.
You would think tthat Mick would have told the mid field to rove to Natanui!!
AND Jammo, one of the most over-rated players we have ever had, bedsides Gibbs of course.
ROWE!!!!! Doesbn't chase, won't tackle,Please get rid of him >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Judd won't get an inch of room for the rest of the year.
They are literally all over us - could end up as a very embarrassing blow out. Casboult misses a badly needed goal as I type! >:(
Simply had to turn it off. these blokes have no clue.
Is their confidence that fragile. Gibbs getting pantsed by Priddis.
Lycett holds at every ruck contest.
How many games this season before Gibbs turns up and puts in instead of running around at quarter rat power?
Seriously Casboult is so bloody scared to kick the ball at the goal it's laughable. Unless he is in the square , what do you do with him?
There were 4 eagles waiting unmanned inside the 50 unmanned in front of the marking contest. Incredible stuff.
David Ellard. Just why?
Why wasn't nicnat freed for jumping early?
Now it's getting ugly.
Ok I'll make the call, the fix is on. This is Pagan all over again, MM is gornski. You cant go from the playing like the first qtr to this tripe 2 weeks in a row. I am disgusted and I am done with this mob. Adios boys and girls.
Unfortutely when I think of Menzel, I think of the Emperor's new clothes. With what everyone says about his ability, his magic, his skill, he is yet to show in any game that he is any more than just a good ordinary player who should not be exempt from being dropped until he finds some form.
Oh wow what a surprise , a key forward has 5 goals, ours don't have 5 kicks betweens them all , and it's not a joke.
Bottom two in 2015 boys and girls.
56 minutes without a free kick and counting....
Sam Rowe iis awful best.s back to his awful awful worst
Jesus christ Levi!
Who's coaching Levi, Crusty the clown?
If you need free kicks to win a game for you, you may as well stay at home.
I said it all last year, and will continue to say it, Rowe is a hack, and should never play another game.
Gibbs is weak, Yarran wants the easy ball and always takes little footsteps when a real contest is involved, Murphy is giving us zero, Levi hasn't learnt about second efforts if you don't take a mark, Ellard isa a waste of spa ce, Menzel is Mr. fumble tonight, Everrit as usual in and out of the game, Curnow, useless, and Liam Jones is having a cup of tea in the grandstand.
It's gunna be a long season.
Forget the frees. This non performance is making me sick. And we said all this last year.
It's not even the lack of skill. There's zero intensity. And that should be a given.
Jesus christ Levi!
If he was, he might be able to kick ;D ;D
Tidy mark and goal by Jones. Still some life in the boys and WC has looked awful all night so who knows...
Let's see if Liam can get another three, or if he goes for a Latte
Crap free kick again!!!
Who's coaching Levi, Crusty the clown?
Wouldn't be a bad option can't do worse
Wow. Uncontested mark 20m out in front. Would like to see what happened there.
Nice mark and goal from Jones. Will we see him for the rest of the match?
And Kennedy it kick 8. Go on I dare someone else to mention the Judd / Kennedy deal. Go on!
That mark by Kennedy says it all.
Rowe nowhere to be seen and Jammo, turning up each week so he can collect his 400 grand a year. he's got crap shoulders and doesn't want to get injured.
Priddis got a free for what?
Rowe is so out of form that it's tragic, he's shot.
Forget the frees. This non performance is making me sick. And we said all this last year.
It's not even the lack of skill. There's zero intensity. And that should be a given.
Its not a fair playing field though.
Have you ever played a game of footy, soccer, basketball...whatever...where the umps are so clearly biased against you that it not only gets in your head but effects how you play. It's demoralising.
Not to mention that it can have a severe effect on the play of game.
I'm not suggesting there isn't any issues with our players, but they are trying to push $hit up hill and getting no help.
Holding the ball then Priddis takes a dive forward.
Jammo could have taken a chest mark then, but that would have meant that he would have to spend just a little bit of effort and we can't have that.
And what about Curnow at that centre bounce, has the ball in his hands and lets it go with no effort.
For those that criticise me for saying jamison is useless..challenge me again
Bottom two or three this year.
Its not a fair playing field though.
Have you ever played a game of footy, soccer, basketball...whatever...where the umps are so clearly biased against you that it not only gets in your head but effects how you play. It's demoralising.
Not to mention that it can have a severe effect on the play of game.
I'm not suggesting there isn't any issues with our players, but they are trying to push $hit up hill and getting no help.
Kruddlker, the frees weren't a problem in the first quarter when the boys put in an effort, put their bodies on the line and played in front.
That's all disappeared since quarter time. Yes, it's demoralizing to have the frees given against you,when you are putting in, but not tonight.
I only blame umpires when both sides have played their guts out, and a disgraceful decision in the last minute of the game is the difference between a win and and a loss.
Levi least of our problems.
Gibbs is a pretender. Runs 1 way and chasing is not an option.
Murph ... see Gibbs.
Simmo has lost whatever little kicking accuracy he had.
Thats 3 of our most experienced right there.
Hendo needs to stay down back. Were terrible without him down there. He's not confident in the fwd line. Send Rowe fwd. It aint gonna fkn hurt!!!
Menzel, Touhy, Everitt, Bell, Ellard, are you there??????
Judd is a star but being tagged out of it.
Yarran is worrying me. He'll either go for a run OR kick off 1 step. As a defender he has to learn to spoil.
We are soft as butter. We have no run whatsoever. Is as though while the rest of the comp has been getting fit over the preseason, we've been learning how to knit vests or something.
I cannot fathom how far we've fallen from last year alone.....and that aint a good thing!!
WE suck. >:(
For those that criticise me for saying jamison is useless..challenge me again
The time, space and delivery the midfielders have been allowed when going to Kennedy tonight would've made SOS look like an u15's player tonight.
Unfair.
Bottom two or three this year.
if true jamo gibbs murph carrott sack or trade
We obviously didn't understand last week Clem Smith just wasn't ready for the big time. I reckon we are just shooting the kid's confidence by the minute.
The time, space and delivery the midfielders have been allowed when going to Kennedy tonight would've made SOS look like an u15's player tonight.
Unfair.
No. u r wrong
Kruddlker, the frees weren't a problem in the first quarter when the boys put in an effort, put their bodies on the line and played in front.
That's all disappeared since quarter time. Yes, it's demoralizing to have the frees given against you,when you are putting in, but not tonight.
I only blame umpires when both sides have played their guts out, and a disgraceful decision in the last minute of the game is the difference between a win and and a loss.
We got more frees in the first quarter then we have had in the next 2 quarters combined.
Simpson on Kennedy after a kick in. In a completely open 50.
Someone is taking the piss
if true jamo gibbs murph carrott sack or trade
I agree.
Can we bring in the NBs for next week? Might have some passion at least
Dinga Bell one of our better players.
Levi has been practicing his goal kicking for six months - and it shows.
Gibbs = most over rated player in AFL. Trade or delist. I'm over him.
How is it possible for Kennedy to have that much space ahead of Henderson? Why isn't there someone standing in the hole?
It's just basic stuff. It's not skill. Not free kick. Basic football.
No. u r wrong
"Challenge me"....based on a comment i made with no reason or logic applied to it.
*Challenged using reason*
Respone: "You are wrong."
I suppose that last mark he took could've been stopped?
Henderson is no mug, but was made to look 'silly' because Kennedy took a chest mark in the clear.
Have you ever played football before? Do you know that there is SFA our backmen can do when their midfield have that amount of time, space and skill to deliver to a FF with space?!
Kennedy getting that mark is symptomatic of the total lack of teamwork that these blokes have.
Someone needed to slot into the hole to cut off those passes, but they have just tossed the towel in.
What will sicken me, is if WC stop running and we put in a last quarter effort that sees us go down by three goals which nlets Mick say how pleased he was that we ran the game out!! >:( >:( >:( >:(
We are headed for another wooden spoon.
I said at the time sacrificing Kennedy for Judd was a mistake.
We have zero confidence and are a rabble. What the bummers will do to us next week will be horrific. Thank the sweet lord I won't be able to make that game.
We got more frees in the first quarter then we have had in the next 2 quarters combined.
So what? Kennedy has kicked because our defence is useless, but worse than that out mids can only play one way. No intensity, no fitness, nothing.
And Kennedy kick 6 in that quarter when the frees were more even.
What a shambles of a team. The lack of effort is awful but they are just so disorganised. We are being torn apart by one of the weakest midfields in the league.
How was Simpson playing on Kennedy for his 8th goal? Terrible!
We got more frees in the first quarter then we have had in the next 2 quarters combined.
You obviously don't understand the point that I made.
WE GOT THEM IN THE FIRST QUARTER BECAUSE WE WERE THE ONES PUTTING OUR BODIES ON THE LINE, WE WERE THE ONES MAKING THE PLAY.
All that stopped in the next two quarters, SO NO FREES.
"Challenge me"....based on a comment i made with no reason or logic applied to it.
*Challenged using reason*
Respone: "You are wrong."
I suppose that last mark he took could've been stopped?
Henderson is no mug, but was made to look 'silly' because Kennedy took a chest mark in the clear.
Have you ever played football before? Do you know that there is SFA our backmen can do when their midfield have that amount of time, space and skill to deliver to a FF with space?!
Spot on , it's a team game, but this game is a team short
We are looking into the abyss without doubt. MM gorn (probably fairly soon) and a cleanout of senior players to occur, followed by years of rebuilding. I've just about had enough and probably won't be going to too many games now for a while. >:(
Got the official 2015 guide in the mail today. How ironic. All the spin about how excited and optimistic everyone is about the year. Pffffft!
This is sadder than the dark days with Pagan.
Kennedy getting that mark is symptomatic of the total lack of teamwork that these blokes have.
Someone needed to slot into the hole to cut off those passes, but they have just tossed the towel in.
That was shocking.
They've gone to Kennedy all night but we gave him a paddock to lead into right in front of goal.
Words fail me.
Okay MM last week you justified/explained away to some extent our loss as we played a very good finalist from last year.
So what will it be today? Losing White early? The wet?
There are some very serious issues at CFC land. Very serious.
Can't stand watching this side.
20 minutes of ok football and then we get split open. We are so easy to score against. How does Kennedy have so much space in the forward 50 in the modern game?
Mick give the contract crap a rest until we see something. Any thing?
How many do you think Kennedy will get? I am thinking 13
FFS Levi.
More frustrating than last week. Can't see any short term fixes at all! Too reliant on Judd and Simpson again. No one else has stood up
Carrots... I've stuck fat for as long I can... But I'm with you brother... Time to go Mick....
The bolt gets one. I guess if he marks them all 10 metres out direct in front he might crack 65 per cent accuracy...
Can anyone can work out Casboult?
Even though he's missed some shockers, we'd be in an ordinary place without Levi.
So many players with flaws....epitomized by Levi.
How can Levi not kick a footy... ffs
You obviously don't understand the point that I made.
WE GOT THEM IN THE FIRST QUARTER BECAUSE WE WERE THE ONES PUTTING OUR BODIES ON THE LINE, WE WERE THE ONES MAKING THE PLAY.
All that stopped in the next two quarters, SO NO FREES.
You're obviously not reading my other posts.
What a disgraceful exhibition.
"Challenge me"....based on a comment i made with no reason or logic applied to it.
*Challenged using reason*
Respone: "You are wrong."
I suppose that last mark he took could've been stopped?
Henderson is no mug, but was made to look 'silly' because Kennedy took a chest mark in the clear.
Have you ever played football before? Do you know that there is SFA our backmen can do when their midfield have that amount of time, space and skill to deliver to a FF with space?!
Stop defending the indefensible
the club is dead with these so called leaders
murph gibbs jamo simmo carrots Rowe henderson trade at years end
23 inside 50's in the first 3 quarters. This includes the first, where we dominated.
Stop defending the indefensible
the club is dead with these so called leaders
murph gibbs jamo simmo carrots Rowe henderson
judd retires
Stop making BS claims with no substance other than "because i said"
What are we in Grade 2??
If you were to find a metaphore for an idea/opinion - it is a train of thought
If we were to find a metaphore for your ideas/opinion - it would be a train stop
And kennedy kicks another by playing on. What were our defence doing? Pushing and shoving and not paying attention. That stuff annoys me no end. Rowe did it in the second quarter and it is indicative of a lack of professionalism and general league level competence.
Someone needs to start a fight. Show that they give a stuff.
Mentally fragile, lazy, generally useless bunch of players.
The sort of football that gets a coach sacked at the minute. Pathetic.
Enough, guys. It is bad enough taking it from the Weagles without us turning on each other.
Remember, this mob were beaten by the Bulldogs last week. That is crap enough.
Stop making BS claims with no substance other than "because i said"
What are we in Grade 2??
If you were to find a metaphore for an idea/opinion - it is a train of thought
If we were to find a metaphore for your ideas/opinion - it would be a train stop
what are you talking about?
I wrote in a post about the middle of last year that i had been told on very good authority that the umpsires were aware of Jammos tactic of holding onto the forward that he was playing against.
He was penalised countless times for it last year, and has been penalised I reckon at least 4 times tonight.
The problem he has, is that even if he and his opponent are holding onto each other, Jammo will be penalized.
you would think that someone at the club would have had the same info as me.
Well at least we have proof tonight that one of our top 10 picks in the past 10 years was a good one......
what are you talking about?
Yup.
27 scoring shots to 16. Rowe takes a mark when the game is over.
Good on Levi for kicking two. Should have had four.
Jones. Vanished. Again.
Everitt has been much better this week.
We are crap. FULL STOP
I wrote in a post about the middle of last year that i had been told on very good authority that the umpsires were aware of Jammos tactic of holding onto the forward that he was playing against.
He was penalised countless times for it last year, and has been penalised I reckon at least 4 times tonight.
The problem he has, is that even if he and his opponent are holding onto each other, Jammo will be penalized.
you would think that someone at the club would have had the same info as me.
The problem with that is, if Jamo's opponent holds first, and doesn't get caught, it almost guarantees that Jamo will be beaten.
If they are both holding, it SHOULD be an even contest.
IF what you say is true, doesn't matter what he does he is disadvantaged.
If someone can explain to me why Smith is playing that would be great.
Also why Casboult didn't play last week that would be great.
Also why Henderson cannot hold a mark while playing in attack.
Also why Curnow is playing.
Cant believe im saying this in round 2 but...play the kids!
27 scoring shots to 16. Rowe takes a mark when the game is over.
Good on Levi for kicking two. Should have had four.
Jones. Vanished. Again.
Everitt has been much better this week.
Everitt needed to be. But he has done OK. Rowe has gone so far backwards that it is not funny.
Jones is deadset useless, as predicted. Useless at ground level, imparts no pressure on defence and runs to dumb places. Delist.
Curnow has been awful. Ellard. Vanished. Murphy, not a captains ar!ehole. Judd thrown in the towel and I don't blame him. Tutt done little. And on...
Cant believe im saying this in round 2 but...play the kids!
Why? So 'supporters' can blast them?
re Smith and several posters including top of this page. :-[
Would love to know what Gibbs' role or purpose has been tonight. He has no opponent at stoppages yet has had no impact.
If someone can explain to me why Smith is playing that would be great.
Also why Casboult didn't play last week that would be great.
Also why Henderson cannot hold a mark while playing in attack.
Also why Curnow is playing.
I have no idea why Ed Curnow is playing so poorly, but he is and has been all year. He has gone backwards remarkably.
Smith has got blown away. he really needs to go back and play some VFL for a while before what little confidence he has is shot totally.
Casboult: I don't know what to say. He has been useless for most of the night. But he can take a mark. Pity he cannot kick.
Carlton: The most mentally fragile group of players in the history of the AFL.
Why? So 'supporters' can blast them?
re Smith and several posters including top of this page. :-[
Agreed. Why throw our kids into this crapstorm
We officially the one quarter experts.
Jones is deadset useless, as predicted. Useless at ground level, imparts no pressure on defence and runs to dumb places. Delist.
He needs a lot of work. He does not work hard enough on the ground.
Jones and Tutt are now confirmed Dud selections.
Casboult: I don't know what to say. He has been useless for most of the night. But he can take a mark. Pity he cannot kick.
Casboult has been outstanding.
You can't underestimate how hard it is to play in a forward line of a team that is being crapped on.
Why? So 'supporters' can blast them?
re Smith and several posters including top of this page. :-[
I meant in jest. I am struggling to see what the senior players are offering tonight in terms of leadership. Simpson has been everywhere but it falls away quickly. They are just so disorganised.
Possessions:
Ellard 9
Jones 5
Menzel 7
Jamison 9
Tutt 7
Rowe 6
Smith 5
Jones and Tutt are now confirmed Dud selections.
I mean look at that goal from Cripps. No one out there is playing for the jumper.
Would love to know what Gibbs' role or purpose has been tonight. He has no opponent at stoppages yet has had no impact.
6 clearances (most for Carlton, 3rd most on the ground)
23 possessions (most for Carlton, =4th on ground)
10 contested possessions (=most for carlton, =3rd on ground)
10 tackles (most on ground)
4 inside 50's (=most for carlton, =3rd on ground)
No Impact you say....doesn't say much for the rest of the players.
100 pts on the cards against a bottom 4-6 side. No youth.
Jones and Tutt are now confirmed Dud selections.
You've got about 16 other players to look at before you get to the forwards. Our midfield has not laid a glove on them for 3 quarters.
The forwards are the least of our worries. The one area of the team we don't need to complain about as they've actually been very efficient. When the ball only gets there once every half hour they are not the players you want to be singling out for anything.
The problem with that is, if Jamo's opponent holds first, and doesn't get caught, it almost guarantees that Jamo will be beaten.
If they are both holding, it SHOULD be an even contest.
IF what you say is true, doesn't matter what he does he is disadvantaged.
Not disadvantaged, just stopped getting away with it last year, and that has carried into this year, so even if he should get the free, unless it's blatant by his opponent, he won't.
And what I am saying IS true.
we need a line in the sand game.
thats where it all changed for the hawks.
ohhh but we're worried our hair will get messed up.
Actually Ellard has done a very good job on Hurn. They get a lot of drive from him and Ellard has held him down well and managed to get a goal himself.
Since quarter time even God couldn't have done any better in our forward line. It just hasn't got there.
6 clearances (most for Carlton, 3rd most on the ground)
23 possessions (most for Carlton, =4th on ground)
10 contested possessions (=most for carlton, =3rd on ground)
10 tackles (most on ground)
4 inside 50's (=most for carlton, =3rd on ground)
No Impact you say....doesn't say much for the rest of the players.
Have a break mate......
6 clearances (most for Carlton, 3rd most on the ground)
23 possessions (most for Carlton, =4th on ground)
10 contested possessions (=most for carlton, =3rd on ground)
10 tackles (most on ground)
4 inside 50's (=most for carlton, =3rd on ground)
No Impact you say....doesn't say much for the rest of the players.
You can quote his stats all night.
How effective and what influence has he had on the game is what counts.
Answer to both
ZERO
Malthouse might not get to his record game
100 pts on the cards against a bottom 4-6 side. No youth.
No youth is a bit harsh.
You can add in No senior players and no middle tier players as well. ;)
We need to drop anyone in the midfield who is incapable of applying pressure when we don't have the ball.
That would account for about half of JKs goals right there.
6 clearances (most for Carlton, 3rd most on the ground)
23 possessions (most for Carlton, =4th on ground)
10 contested possessions (=most for carlton, =3rd on ground)
10 tackles (most on ground)
4 inside 50's (=most for carlton, =3rd on ground)
No Impact you say....doesn't say much for the rest of the players.
In some ways Gibbs has been our most effective player. That is frightening, because he hasn't had a great night. But he can put his hand out for his pay packet without feeling embarrassed.
That was awful !!
Malthouse might not get to his record game
i dont give a flyin fk about MM at this point
We definitely look a lot worse than last year in terms of poor spirit and susceptibility to capitulation. We just look mentally shot, and I mean totally.
Malthouse might not get to his record game
And we owe him nothing.
6 clearances (most for Carlton, 3rd most on the ground)
23 possessions (most for Carlton, =4th on ground)
10 contested possessions (=most for carlton, =3rd on ground)
10 tackles (most on ground)
4 inside 50's (=most for carlton, =3rd on ground)
No Impact you say....doesn't say much for the rest of the players.
No it does not. It appears as he was roving to Natinui for periods. What a mess, players must feel utterly dejected.
You can quote his stats all night.
How effective and what influence has he had on the game is what counts.
Answer to both
ZERO
f*** me you guys are as one-wayed as our midfield is.
Re-read what i wrote again, and the re-read that last line!
I don't understand why we don't play guys in positions that they are good in. Casboult at ff closer to goal, Hendo at chf, Menzel around the big fellas and jones leading away from them. Also taggers pretending to be ball winners because our ball winners are cowards. Carrazo and curnover = taggers yet playing like elite ball winners. Both of them should never be allowed to kick a ball again. Handball only.
Not really sure what position Gibbs is good at.... Maybe midfield....
Same goes for yarran and Rowe and touhy and Simpson and pretty much the rest of the team.
I know Jamo is our full back and judd and murthy are in the middle. That's about it.
I understand why the club was offering a 10% discount on this year membership. They knew players will put in at best 90% effort.
What a disaster! 33 inside 50's for the night, including the first term where we dominated. What does that say about us?
i dont give a flyin fk about MM at this point
My comment wasn't based on worrying about him, if this continues he might not be around for that record game, not sure if that's a bad thing
we are mentally shot. This club will capitulate hard unless something happens
Finish up on this one, guys. The post game thread is up and there is plenty to say, very little of it enjoyable.
6 clearances (most for Carlton, 3rd most on the ground)
23 possessions (most for Carlton, =4th on ground)
10 contested possessions (=most for carlton, =3rd on ground)
10 tackles (most on ground)
4 inside 50's (=most for carlton, =3rd on ground)
No Impact you say....doesn't say much for the rest of the players.
Your right Krudds .It doesnt say much at all. If anything , it goes to show how deceiving stats can be.
once again this year, I have been convinced to pay my membership by a load of cr@p!! >:(