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Title: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: townsendcalling on May 22, 2017, 08:33:11 am
Finding that shoot in a rain sodden game could be difficult however have a go.

Choose ONE ONLY Green Shoot you observed from the game.  Can be a player, passage of play and individual effort, any ONE Shoot that put a smile ???? on your face.

My shoot is sprouting at a rapid rate and I can't wait until it is fully grown.  Tom Williamson, just keeps getting better!
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: shawny on May 22, 2017, 09:08:22 am
Fishers ball use in traffic and goal kicking nous.

Doesn't get it often but can play.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: mateinone on May 22, 2017, 09:11:52 am
Intensity.

I like the intensity that has come into the Carlton game, experience is one thing, but you can still show endeavour even if you are playing your first game and we were intense for the periods I was watching.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Thryleon on May 22, 2017, 10:21:46 am
Williamson and that first quarter.  Aside from hitting the scoreboard to apply more pressure, we were all over Freo.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 22, 2017, 11:41:53 am
Fishers ball use in traffic and goal kicking nous.

Doesn't get it often but can play.

x2...you can see the nous he has in close but needs some more size as he gets pushed off the ball....in a couple of seasons time he will be getting 25-30 possies every game..
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Baggers on May 22, 2017, 11:52:09 am
To the surprise of some... Cuningham. Watch his first qtr closely...

Now, like so many of his team mates, he just has to string 4 qtrs together.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: blue4life on May 22, 2017, 12:40:48 pm
Williamson has good size, pace and foot skills and takes the game on, he looks like he could be a long term player.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Wet Willie on May 22, 2017, 12:46:36 pm
Williamson and Cuningham...oh, hang on...
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: jeza on May 22, 2017, 03:12:31 pm
Williamson stood out.

Size and strength and a great kick. Excellent game.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: hanwell on May 22, 2017, 04:47:25 pm
The Northern Blues  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: maxm68 on May 22, 2017, 05:21:17 pm
Weitering down back where he belongs.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Barbs on May 22, 2017, 07:46:07 pm
Easily Williamson this week for poise and his movement through traffic.

I don't know what the opposite of a green shoot is but this week it was Plowman.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: bigblue on May 22, 2017, 08:11:53 pm
Fisher and Williamson for me.
Great signs.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Jeffy38 on May 22, 2017, 08:20:06 pm
Easily Williamson this week for poise and his movement through traffic.

I don't know what the opposite of a green shoot is but this week it was Plowman.

Agree with this. Plowman stank, the cut back into traffic in the last showed a terrible lack of awareness.

Willo on the other hand was outstanding, he had a couple of almost moments which if they had come off would have clinched a rising star nom.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: LoveNavy on May 22, 2017, 11:17:22 pm
Little Zac's arrogance cutting through the big boys, registering our first major.

Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: cimm1979 on May 22, 2017, 11:28:11 pm
Easily Williamson this week for poise and his movement through traffic.

I don't know what the opposite of a green shoot is but this week it was Plowman.

The opposite would be a dead weed but given he was on AA squad pace I'm sure you don't mean that after one ordinary game in bad conditions, do you?
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: sandsmere on May 23, 2017, 07:19:21 am
Alex S. again for me.

A stroke of genius by SOS getting him here.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Jeffy38 on May 23, 2017, 07:45:14 am
AA squad pace? " tell him he's dreaming"

Pole still has some way to go to be in that sort of thinking. Slow start to the year where he was just going.played a good patch against, Essendon, Collingwood and perhaps the saints. A
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: cimm1979 on May 23, 2017, 09:01:42 am
AA squad pace? " tell him he's dreaming"

Pole still has some way to go to be in that sort of thinking. Slow start to the year where he was just going.played a good patch against, Essendon, Collingwood and perhaps the saints. A
Made AFL team of the week twice.

But yeah sure , he's just going  :o
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Amers on May 23, 2017, 01:07:56 pm
To the surprise of some... Cuningham. Watch his first qtr closely...

Now, like so many of his team mates, he just has to string 4 qtrs together.

Haha, it's nice to see you give him the nod. Like many, I really hope he can begin to put it all together, over 4 qtrs. If he can we will have a very good player. He's a point of difference to many of our other mids in qualities and style of play as well.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Jeffy38 on May 23, 2017, 05:32:59 pm
Made AFL team of the week twice.

But yeah sure , he's just going  :o

2 noms in 9 rounds does not an AA make. Not even in the frame....
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Baggers on May 23, 2017, 07:29:09 pm
Haha, it's nice to see you give him the nod. Like many, I really hope he can begin to put it all together, over 4 qtrs. If he can we will have a very good player. He's a point of difference to many of our other mids in qualities and style of play as well.

Yep, liked his first qtr, Amers Old Son. But I have to add that his failing to man up in the 3rd qtr was a disgrace and somewhat typical - watched his opponent run off him and he just jogged after him through the middle, no pressure no attitude and guess who was the next link in the handball chain resulting in a D1ckers inside 50, yep, the bloke Cuningham looked at and just allowed to keep running unchecked. I reckon that's his issue, he's either on and doing well or a lazy little pr1ck. Deserves to be dropped for that one super slack non-effort.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Amers on May 23, 2017, 11:33:42 pm
Yep, liked his first qtr, Amers Old Son. But I have to add that his failing to man up in the 3rd qtr was a disgrace and somewhat typical - watched his opponent run off him and he just jogged after him through the middle, no pressure no attitude and guess who was the next link in the handball chain resulting in a D1ckers inside 50, yep, the bloke Cuningham looked at and just allowed to keep running unchecked. I reckon that's his issue, he's either on and doing well or a lazy little pr1ck. Deserves to be dropped for that one super slack non-effort.

Yep, I also saw exactly what you described. He's still very hot and cold, he needs to even that out, and then begin to raise the bar.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: pinot on May 24, 2017, 07:10:04 am
Cunners needs game time to adjust to speed of the game. Only poised type players can pick up the speed quickly he is more of a power mid and will be harder for him to adjust. If he comes good will be excellent for us. Here's hoping he just turned 20 time is on his side to put it together
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Baggers on May 24, 2017, 04:37:45 pm
Cunners needs game time to adjust to speed of the game. Only poised type players can pick up the speed quickly he is more of a power mid and will be harder for him to adjust. If he comes good will be excellent for us. Here's hoping he just turned 20 time is on his side to put it together

Yep, there's no doubting he has all the tricks, but we can't excuse allowing an opponent to run off like that. That's ill-disciplined and I hope is not indicative of poor concentration/attitude issue. I bet BB/other coaches and players tore him a newy over that non-effort. All the first year blokes are already showing him up for commitment and effort. Hopefully the penny drops for the kid, and soon.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Thryleon on May 24, 2017, 09:08:42 pm
Just to temper the criticism he's a teenager in his second year of football.   If this behaviour is still here next season then get worried but for now it's simply something for Cunningham to work on. 
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: cimm1979 on May 25, 2017, 12:09:07 am
Pretty ordinary conditions, got it 13 times (about twice as many as his last game) and did some nice stuff.

Hope he keeps getting better.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: DJC on May 25, 2017, 09:45:49 am
Yep, there's no doubting he has all the tricks, but we can't excuse allowing an opponent to run off like that. That's ill-disciplined and I hope is not indicative of poor concentration/attitude issue. I bet BB/other coaches and players tore him a newy over that non-effort. All the first year blokes are already showing him up for commitment and effort. Hopefully the penny drops for the kid, and soon.

I may be over generous but is it possible that he was spent at the time and not capable of chasing effectively?

I don't recall his involvement immediately before that incident.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Baggers on May 25, 2017, 10:20:22 am
I may be over generous but is it possible that he was spent at the time and not capable of chasing effectively?

I don't recall his involvement immediately before that incident.

Your loyalty to anyone pulling on the navy blue is bloody brilliant. But, yep, over generous IMHO on this occasion. If he's spent in the third qtr, then he's in trouble. Just slack on his behalf. The first year blokes were showing him up -- especially considering fewer rotations -- for gut busting efforts.

But please don't mistake my criticism for writing off the kid or being too harsh on him or having it in for him... no way, love to see him burn it up. Just p1sses me off seeing talent to burn attached to a seeming inability to maintain intensity - he's well into his 2nd year now. What he showed in the first qtr was really good, so much so I named him as my green shoot of the week based on that effort... but what followed from him had me questioning whether he was the green shoot of the week... especially when you look at first year blokes like Willo's efforts throughout the game, and ZF throwing his 11 kilos around in desperation and Samo racking up 10 tackles...

Some blokes do have a problem with maintaining concentration/focus/intensity but they soon learn... or they'll find themselves back in a more comfortable league/level of footy.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: bratblue on May 25, 2017, 04:35:04 pm
I don't think I've seen Jack make green shoot yet. It would be nice if he could get rid of the yips to give himself a chance.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: Thryleon on May 26, 2017, 08:52:50 am
I don't think I've seen Jack make green shoot yet. It would be nice if he could get rid of the yips to give himself a chance.

I personally think he has moved beyond green shoot already.

Has all the smarts and tricks to make up for the lack of running power, and is aggressive in the contests.

All the hallmarks of a Silvagni.  Now its just a matter of how good he will be.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: dodge on May 26, 2017, 09:04:07 am
Totally agree, Thry.  He just knows how to play footy.  Some solid marks and great smothers in the last couple of weeks as well.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: hotspur on May 26, 2017, 11:35:43 am
We need to get a strong   forward in the Cameron ,Lynch,Patton, Daniher ,Brown    mould then watch the likes of Silvagni ,Fisher ,stand tall and flourish .Casboult as much as i like him is a one trick pony,maybe they are all ready  at Carlton ie Harry and Kerr I wonder    
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 26, 2017, 02:14:20 pm
We need to get a strong   forward in the Cameron ,Lynch,Patton, Daniher ,Brown    mould then watch the likes of Silvagni ,Fisher ,stand tall and flourish .Casboult as much as i like him is a one trick pony,maybe they are all ready  at Carlton ie Harry and Kerr I wonder  

Harry Mac, Kerr, Jack and Ben Silvagni would be the planning......probably 3 years away before that starts to produce results....need to be patient.
Title: Re: Round 9 Green Shoot of the Week
Post by: LoveNavy on May 26, 2017, 11:17:31 pm
From Mr Baggers
"Willo's efforts throughout the game, and ZF throwing his 11 kilos around in desperation and Samo racking up 10 tackles..."

So true. Our future looks bright. These kids are a pleasure to watch. Hope they inspire their teammates to show the same effort and commitment.