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Title: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: crashlander on June 12, 2017, 11:39:18 am
The Blues get their 2nd chance on TV this year with a game against Werribee on Saturday afternoon.
As the senior play on Saturday night on the Gold Coast, that will make some interesting decisions as to who is where and for how long.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: flyboy77 on June 12, 2017, 02:32:28 pm
http://websites.sportstg.com/comp_info.cgi?c=1-118-0-436949-0

looking good NBs!!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: crashlander on June 15, 2017, 10:10:56 pm
NORTHERN BLUES v. WERRIBEE

Round 9 – 17/06/2017

02:10

IKON Park

Northern Blues

B: 47. C. Sheehan, 43. S. White, 7. D. Buckley
HB: 59. C. Byrne, 70. H. Macreadie, 49. D. Armfield
C: 72. S.  Kerridge, 32. N.  Graham, 60. J.  Pickett
HF: 31. P. Kerr, 48. K. Jaksch, 67. C. Polson
F: 5. B. Smedts, 19. H. McKay, 56. A. Gallucci
R: 15. A. Phillips, 33. R. Palmer, 1. T. Wilson
Int: 76. K. LeBois, 21. C. Barrett, 13. C. O’Shea, 8. L. Russell, 34. J. Glass-McCasker, 6. G. Strachan, 50. D. Gorringe, 20. D. Stevens

23P: 52. S. Fowler

In: G. Strachan, D. Gorringe, S. Fowler, C. Barrett, J. Glass-McCasker, D. Stevens
Out: J. Corboy,  B. Boekhorst

Nice to see a team this strong, but at least 2 emergencies will probably not play: they will be on the Gold Coast. It would be nice if there were only 2, as we have taken 3 in the past.
Interesting to see Fowler named, as he was named on the bench for the Development team last week. Still, he has a reputation as someone not far from being draftable.
 

Werribee

B: 48. N. Meredith, 22. S. Durdin, 60. N. Buykx
HB: 12. R. Barrack, 26. D. Nielson, 9. A. Swallow
C: 37. W.  Fordham, 11. M.  Hanson, 39. M.  Hibberd
HF: 36. J. Williams, 40. N. Larkey, 76. J. Anderson
F: 44. C. Zurhaar, 38. M. Daw, 78. L. Thomas
R: 31. B. Preuss, 4. T. Gribble, 7. D. McFarlane
Int: 63. T. Ellard, 10. J. Maishman, 56. M. Augerinos, 6. J. Sharp, 2. M. Munro, 5. J. Jones, 18. J. Cleeland, 46. M. Taylor

23P: 29. D. Brew

Nick Buykx is a kid who has exceeded expectations since his debut, getting around 20 disposals per game. He is the son of one of my co-workers at Werribee Secondary College. He is small and light, but quick and skilled. Look for him: he isn't North listed.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: crashlander on June 15, 2017, 10:18:21 pm
NORTHERN BLUES v. WERRIBEE

Round 9 – 17/06/2017

11:00

IKON Park

Northern Blues

B: 18. B. Jordan, 25. K. Keppel, 22. C. McCabe
HB: 4. S. Russell, 34. J. Glass-McCasker, 6. G. Strachan
C: 3. K.  Declase, 44. W.  Krithararis, 57. F.  Pearce
HF: 21. C. Barrett, 50. D. Gorringe, 12. Z. Ballard
F: 9. J. Corboy, 53. H. Payne, 54. M. Romero
R: 80. M. Korcheck, 11. T. Jones, 20. D. Stevens
Int: 41. S. Glover, 16. J. Thorpe, 35. M. Stavrou, 46. J. Bradley, 24. T. Roos, 30. S. Bolger, 27. A. Milham, 23. C. Adams, 78. M. Walson

In: J. Corboy, M. Walson, S. Bolger, J. Thorpe, T. Roos, M. Stavrou

Out: S. Fowler,  R. Maibaum

It looks like Korchek's papers are stamped - being at Development level at this point does not look good. Gorringe and Glass-McCasker also have to worry.
I'd be playing Glass-McCasker forward, to be honest. He hasn't improved enough as a defender to challenge Jones, Silvagni or Rowe and he has enough weapons to make a decent forward. But I seem to be calling on deaf ears with this one.

Werribee

B: 35. D. Watson, 46. M. Taylor, 15. B. Iles
HB: 6. J. Sharp, 79. L. McLeod, 58. L. Pinnuck
C: 10. J.  Maishman, 5. J.  Jones, 56. M.  Augerinos
HF: 63. T. Ellard, 32. J. Corbett, 25. A. Adams
F: 54. B. Shelley, 18. J. Cleeland, 2. M. Munro
R: 30. K. Galloway, 27. E. Petterwood, 19. N. Laracy
Int: 57. H. Boyd, 8. H. King, 62. I. Miller, 1. B. Hodgson, 80. J. Edwards, 52. J. Marshall, 65. S. Amarantidis, 59. B. Houlihan, 70. B. Crofts
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: Gointocarlton on June 17, 2017, 03:58:39 pm
Have not seen all of the game but Kerr and Harry showing little or nothing. KJ has 3 to half time. (Kerr is out there right?)
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: Gointocarlton on June 17, 2017, 04:15:02 pm
After a very close contest the wheels have fallen off the NB train in the third.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: Gointocarlton on June 17, 2017, 04:38:31 pm
Gorringe injured in the first. Phillip she injured in the 3rd. Kerr in the ruck.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: Gointocarlton on June 17, 2017, 04:41:54 pm
And I can see why AFL umpiring is no good, it's worse in the VFL. Thomas receives a kick from the boundary line that traveled 5-6m a best. Called a mark and a shot at goal.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: flyboy77 on June 17, 2017, 05:29:32 pm
After a very close contest the wheels have fallen off the NB train in the third.

the wheels fell off in the 2nd.....
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on June 17, 2017, 05:30:44 pm
No rucks after half time made it tough but we looked undersized and were out muscled in the end...

Buckley...couple of dashes from half back and had some good long kicks on the run but doesnt grab me as the small defender we need.....too light and not strong enough IMO.
MacReadie...battled on but was well beaten by another thin tall kid called Larkey.
White....tackled well but a few dumb moments in the game reminded me of how ordinary he can be, will probably get a week for contacting the umpire accidentally after giving away a 50m penalty....
Polson. ordinary early but tagged Swallow after half time and did better..
Armfield....Denis is done and dusted, might get the charity last senior game.
JGM...got hurt but was getting beat up by Daw anyway...not big or smart enough vs good players..
Philips...BOG till he got hurt, beat Pruess and Daw in the ruck and was doing well around the ground..
Pickett...couple of goals but doesnt do enough.
Lebois...still finding his way...
Palmer....went ok without being brilliant, when he gets it he usually does something with it but not enough to warrant senior footy.
Kerridge...probably our best player in the end, worked hard and presented well especially in the air where he took some good marks...
Kerr...not sighted early but had to share ruck duties with Jaksch vs Preuess/Daw and found some footy around the ground..looked a bit heavy and slow.
Jacksh...kicked a couple of goals and worked down both ends but didnt excite me too much..did some ruck work and actually wasnt too bad but he wont be playing senior footy anytime soon and looks gone. Not intense enough and doesnt seem to have much care factor...
HarryMac...looks good when he gets the footy and makes it look easy but doesnt do enough at times...marking is good but kicking needs work...lazy approach and a bit .
careless at times...
Gorringe...injured early but wasnt much chop anyway...playing very bruise free footy...
Graham....along with Kerridge probably our best but I remain unconvinced about him at senior level......tackled well, got plenty of ball, couple of goals and we all know he can play well at this level but he doesnt hurt teams with his field kicking enough and his lack of pace makes his disposal more of an issue.

Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: laj on June 17, 2017, 05:50:32 pm
Following twitter it seemed we had two bad patches in the 2nd and 3rd qtrs where we let Werribee rattle on 4 and 5 goals quickly. Cost us in the end. We we lazy last week and it seemed it carried over this week.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: Baggers on June 17, 2017, 07:07:56 pm
No rucks after half time made it tough but we looked undersized and were out muscled in the end...

Buckley...couple of dashes from half back and had some good long kicks on the run but doesnt grab me as the small defender we need.....too light and not strong enough IMO.
MacReadie...battled on but was well beaten by another thin tall kid called Larkey.
White....tackled well but a few dumb moments in the game reminded me of how ordinary he can be, will probably get a week for contacting the umpire accidentally after giving away a 50m penalty....
Polson. ordinary early but tagged Swallow after half time and did better..
Armfield....Denis is done and dusted, might get the charity last senior game.
JGM...got hurt but was getting beat up by Daw anyway...not big or smart enough vs good players..
Philips...BOG till he got hurt, beat Pruess and Daw in the ruck and was doing well around the ground..
Pickett...couple of goals but doesnt do enough.
Lebois...still finding his way...
Palmer....went ok without being brilliant, when he gets it he usually does something with it but not enough to warrant senior footy.
Kerridge...probably our best player in the end, worked hard and presented well especially in the air where he took some good marks...
Kerr...not sighted early but had to share ruck duties with Jaksch vs Preuess/Daw and found some footy around the ground..looked a bit heavy and slow.
Jacksh...kicked a couple of goals and worked down both ends but didnt excite me too much..did some ruck work and actually wasnt too bad but he wont be playing senior footy anytime soon and looks gone. Not intense enough and doesnt seem to have much care factor...
HarryMac...looks good when he gets the footy and makes it look easy but doesnt do enough at times...marking is good but kicking needs work...lazy approach and a bit .
careless at times...
Gorringe...injured early but wasnt much chop anyway...playing very bruise free footy...
Graham....along with Kerridge probably our best but I remain unconvinced about him at senior level......tackled well, got plenty of ball, couple of goals and we all know he can play well at this level but he doesnt hurt teams with his field kicking enough and his lack of pace makes his disposal more of an issue.

Nice summary, EB1. We lost our way without Phillips but it did get Kerr into the game! Those lapses in concentration were really costly.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: Professer E on June 17, 2017, 11:13:21 pm
The little I saw I was really impressed by Polson's work in close, especially by hand.  The NBs are light years ahead if previous years, actually playing with some system.

Mackay has a great hands but a lazy kicking style that concerns me.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: LoveNavy on June 17, 2017, 11:27:46 pm
Thanks to EB and co for the great summaries.

Gee our ruck stocks have been pushed with injury this season. (Please let big Kreuz stay fit). No doubt H needs our patience.

Did Byrne play?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on June 17, 2017, 11:46:29 pm
Thanks to EB and co for the great summaries.

Gee our ruck stocks have been pushed with injury this season. (Please let big Kreuz stay fit). No doubt H needs our patience.

Did Byrne play?

LN...Apologies..Forgot Byrne.....given he is a bit rusty he wasnt too bad....still the same attacking player but just hasnt picked up the pace fully yet but that will come and he showed he is still the promising player we all knew from last season..

Sheehan....had Lindsay Thomas for company and did the job on him without being a star himself....Apart from one early soccer type goal Thomas spent most of the afternoon trying to cheap shot opponents and had little interest in the game. Gus used the ball well when he did get it and remains in the mix for the future but is still 50/50 IMO...

Galluci...early goals but faded when the game got tougher....gets sucked in and loses concentration......back to Willy for him I'm reckoning...

Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: LP on June 18, 2017, 10:13:29 am
What was the Phillips injury?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: flyboy77 on June 18, 2017, 10:51:19 am
Following twitter it seemed we had two bad patches in the 2nd and 3rd qtrs where we let Werribee rattle on 4 and 5 goals quickly. Cost us in the end. We we lazy last week and it seemed it carried over this week.

Agreed laj, a few of the lads have gotten a bit far ahead of themselves and should be taught the old adage - you're only as good as your last game. those patches when we got torn  new one we were awful, lazy and disinterested.

We shouldn't forget the impact of not having Jones and to a lesser extent Boekhurst playing either,,,,

Jaksch - rarely have I seen such an apathetic type!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: Professer E on June 18, 2017, 10:55:41 am
Macreadie isn't a KP player and found Daw too strong and quick.  NBs missing a lot of key positional players yesterday, surprised they got so close in the end.

Thomas is still a weak hound.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: kruddler on June 18, 2017, 11:00:02 am
Macreadie isn't a KP player and found Daw too strong and quick.  NBs missing a lot of key positional players yesterday, surprised they got so close in the end.

Thomas is still a weak hound.

I think the majority of the AFL will find Daw too strong and quick too. Nothing to be ashamed about there, especially from a kid in his first season.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on June 18, 2017, 11:00:36 am
Agreed laj, a few of the lads have gotten a bit far ahead of themselves and should be taught the old adage - you're only as good as your last game. those patches when we got torn  new one we were awful, lazy and disinterested.

We shouldn't forget the impact of not having Jones and to a lesser extent Boekhurst playing either,,,,

Jaksch - rarely have I seen such an apathetic type!

Jones was missed...Larkey and Daw were all over over backs in the marking duels.......not sure Boekhorst would have made much difference. I thought BLaine showed
he is still a deer in the headlights in the seniors....when he got caught holding he ball and then dribbled that kick from near the goal square it reminded me of Paul Bower for some reason....
Rather play Kerridge or Palmer this week vs the Tigers.....the sight of Dusty Martin will frighten the living daylights out of Boekhorst....
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on June 18, 2017, 11:05:49 am
I think the majority of the AFL will find Daw too strong and quick too. Nothing to be ashamed about there, especially from a kid in his first season.

Macreadie was on a kid called Larkey who was a similar tall thin build and who beat him easily.....JGM played on Daw and couldnt handle him for the reasons you said...Daw is intimidating at VFLlevel....
Wouldnt mind recruiting Daw and getting Bolton/Fraser and crew to re-program him like they have with Jones.....Brad Scott hasnt done much with Daw and how a banana like Hansen gets a game ahead of Daw is beyond me ...Daw could be a weapon in the right coaching environment.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: cookie2 on June 18, 2017, 11:17:40 am
Macreadie was on a kid called Larkey who was a similar tall thin build and who beat him easily.....JGM played on Daw and couldnt handle him for the reasons you said...Daw is intimidating at VFLlevel....
Wouldnt mind recruiting Daw and getting Bolton/Fraser and crew to re-program him like they have with Jones.....Brad Scott hasnt done much with Daw and how a banana like Hansen gets a game ahead of Daw is beyond me ...Daw could be a weapon in the right coaching environment.

Daw has all the physical and athletic attributes EB but just seems to have very little clue of where to run and get where the ball is, from what I've seen of him at AFL level. He just looks like he's wandering around without any real purpose, an onlooker, unless the ball happens to come directly his way. Maybe Bolts/Fraser could fix that? I don't know, but if we could get him for a low cost he maybe would be worth the punt.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on June 18, 2017, 11:21:29 am
Daw has all the physical and athletic attributes EB but just seems to have very little clue of where to run and get where the ball is, from what I've seen of him at AFL level. He just looks like he's wandering around without any real purpose, an onlooker, unless the ball happens to come directly his way. Maybe Bolts/Fraser could fix that? I don't know, but if we could get him for a low cost he maybe would be worth the punt.

Agree...although rumour is Goldstein will be offered up to help pay for Kelly and Martin so I guess Nth might want to hang onto Daw...
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: cookie2 on June 18, 2017, 11:31:16 am
Agree...although rumour is Goldstein will be offered up to help for Kelly and Martin so I guess Nth might want to hang onto Daw...

Mmm, interesting. From what I've seen of Goldstein this year I think he may be a bit down on previous year's performances so Nth may well be more inclined to trade him?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: laj on June 18, 2017, 11:49:55 am
Agreed laj, a few of the lads have gotten a bit far ahead of themselves and should be taught the old adage - you're only as good as your last game. those patches when we got torn  new one we were awful, lazy and disinterested.

We shouldn't forget the impact of not having Jones and to a lesser extent Boekhurst playing either,,,,

Jaksch - rarely have I seen such an apathetic type!

Jaksch plays good footy, wish he would be more intense. It's probably what's keeping him out of the side that lack of intensity as he plays well most weeks. If he worked hard he'd be a good player. In the end it's up to him to make that penny drop.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: flyboy77 on June 18, 2017, 12:06:14 pm
Jaksch plays good footy, wish he would be more intense. It's probably what's keeping him out of the side that lack of intensity as he plays well most weeks. If he worked hard he'd be a good player. In the end it's up to him to make that penny drop.

no doubt you watched or went yesterday?

His first few goals were simply because he was the last man (alone) at the end of the chain....i would have kicked them!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: townsendcalling on June 18, 2017, 12:08:27 pm
I was disappointed with Big Harry's conversion yesterday.  He made good potion, clunked a few but couldn't finish off, especially early in the final quarter.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: DJC on June 18, 2017, 12:11:43 pm
Jaksch plays good footy, wish he would be more intense. It's probably what's keeping him out of the side that lack of intensity as he plays well most weeks. If he worked hard he'd be a good player. In the end it's up to him to make that penny drop.

It was informative to watch Jaksch in a one on one situation.  Jaksch was goal side and should have had his opponent cold but the defender simply made body contact and Jaksch was out of the contest.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: LP on June 18, 2017, 12:28:09 pm
It was informative to watch Jaksch in a one on one situation.  Jaksch was goal side and should have had his opponent cold but the defender simply made body contact and Jaksch was out of the contest.

As far as most of our tall forwards are concerned, he's not on his Pat Malone in this regard!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: cookie2 on June 18, 2017, 01:29:31 pm
So, does Levi keep his spot or does someone else get a go?

Harry?
Kerr?
Jaksch?

From reports, none of these seems to have made a strong enough statement so Levi plays v. the Tiggers I guess?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: pinot on June 18, 2017, 02:20:35 pm
Our young tall forwards are down at the moment but NB yesterday had alot of players missing - Jones, Smedts, Boekhorst, Lamb, Sumner.. no doubt we have depth issues but Werribee is a flag favourite and we did pretty well
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on June 18, 2017, 04:51:27 pm
It was informative to watch Jaksch in a one on one situation.  Jaksch was goal side and should have had his opponent cold but the defender simply made body contact and Jaksch was out of the contest.

Got bodied out of a contest by a young kid called Neilsen and it was embarrassing.....not sure what happened to the Jaksch I watched beat Lachie Henderson when he played CHB in a GWS game, was physical and looked a senior player...looks like he is a 1st year player and looking for easy kicks..
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: cookie2 on June 18, 2017, 04:54:33 pm
Got bodied out of a contest by a young kid called Neilsen and it was embarrassing.....not sure what happened to the Jaksch I watched beat Lachie Henderson when he played CHB in a GWS game, was physical and looked a senior player...looks like he is a 1st year player and looking for easy kicks..

Maybe he believes he's going to be gone and can't be bothered?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on June 18, 2017, 04:57:10 pm
Maybe he believes he's going to be gone and can't be bothered?
Reckon you are right Cookie...first part of the NB's season was playing better and probably felt close to senior selection but it seems obvious he isnt in Boltons plans
and after watching him Saturday I can see why....
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: crashlander on June 18, 2017, 06:29:54 pm
AFL Vic Development League 2017
Northern Blues   2.4  6.6  9.8  13.12 (90)
Werribee   1.1  1.4  2.6  6.8 (44)

GOALS:
Northern Blues: Korcheck 2 Jordan 2 Bolger  McCabe  Adams  Romero  Ballard  Roos  Corboy  Jones  Barrett
Werribee: Ellard 3 Amarantidis  Liberatore  Miller

BEST:
Northern Blues: Jones Russell Declase McCabe Ballard Adams
Werribee: Pinnuck Laracy Miller Crofts Edwards Jones

This is a good win, no matter how you look at it. The Blues simply could not have done in the last few years. Tim Jones probably should be promoted, as he showed last year that e has what it takes at VFL level.
It was also good to see Korchek kick a couple of goals. He will play in the VFL seniors next week: there is nobody else.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: crashlander on June 18, 2017, 07:13:13 pm
Peter Jackson VFL 2017
Northern Blues   7.4  9.5  12.10  15.13 (103)
Werribee   4.0  9.6  16.7  18.9 (117)

GOALS:
Northern Blues: Jaksch 3 Palmer 2 Pickett 2 Graham 2 Kerridge  Gallucci  Russell  Phillips  McKay  LeBois
Werribee: Larkey 4 Maishman 3 Daw 3 Thomas 2 Williams 2 Fordham  Augerinos  Nielson  Munro

BEST:
Northern Blues: White Palmer O'Shea Graham Kerridge Pickett
Werribee: Swallow Hanson Gribble Nielson McFarlane Larkey

Not sure I agree with the best players, but....
I was very disappointed to lose after the start we had, but considering that we didn't have a ruckman after half time, we did pretty well.
This shows one of the real structural weaknesses we still have: a dearth of decent ruckmen. Phillips was probably best on ground until he got hurt. He totally destroyed Preuss. But with him off and Daniel Gorringe unable to return to the field, we lost the drive from the middle.
I'm afraid we rolled the dice with Gorringe and it didn't work out. He has the ability, but can not stay uninjured, nor does he have the inner motivation to make it. A pity, but there it is.

I did like what Palmer, Graham and Kerridge did, but they lost their edge before half time when Phillips first went to the bench.

I saw more in Pickett, but he hasn't managed to put it all together yet. Maybe next year. LeBois looks well of the pace to me. I saw him in under age football, and he didn't look as slow as he did yesterday. But he has a kick you can't help but love.

I thought O'Shea probably played his least effective game for us.

Overall I was angry at the time, but perhaps I over-reacted. We missed the dominant tall defender (Silvagni or Jones) we've had for most of the year and our key forwards didn't make the most of their opportunities. In some ways we showed our relative inexperience. We will improve.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: Baggers on June 18, 2017, 07:57:39 pm
Real pity about Flip. Was dominant in the ruck and around the ground. Hope it's not a long term injury.

I agree, (strangely  ;)), with the club's nominated best, especially in terms of White and Palmer. White lacked support down back but still did a terrific job, considering. I thought Palmer was the most effective mid-fielder though his disposal stats wouldn't be as numerous as Kerridge and Graham, who were also good for the most part.

Agree that it was O'Shea's best outing for us thus far. And Pickett is not far off 'clicking', provided he keeps up the work/intensity. Hate to say it but I thought Russell (8) was a real liability and hopefully will be replaced.

Casey wasn't quite as clean as his first game back but will be better for the run.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: crashlander on June 19, 2017, 02:59:43 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/elRVYOL.png)
The statistics make interesting reading:
[1] Swallow got 7 possessions after half time, and most of his possessions were handballs. Kudos to Cameron Polson after half time, even though he managed only 11 for the game.
[2] Phillips had 12 possessions, of which 9 were in the 1st quarter (when he first went to the bench). By half time he had had it. No drive from the middle thereafter.
[3] Preuss ended up with 18 possessions and 48 hit outs. He had 3 possessions in the 1st quarter, when Phillips and Gorringe were fit.
[4] Graham, Palmer, Kerridge and White all managed their usual possession number (25 - 30). That is a pretty good effort in the circumstances. But after that our mids were noticeably down. Wilson had only 15 when he normally gets close to 30.
[5] Buckley had more than half of his 15 possessions in the 1st quarter. He did an OK job, but he really stopped running out of defence from about half way through the 2nd quarter.
[6] Casey Byrne managed 20 possessions, but he looked quite rusty. But Gussy Sheahan had less than 10: very much down.
[7] Glass-McCasker spent all day I defence and did not have a good day. he had 5 possessions. I really think he should be tried more up forward, as he has the weapons. He just can't seem to use them effectively down back. Working to his strengths appears (to me) to be a better use of his talent at this point.
[8] We REALLY missed having a dominant defender, as Jones and Silvagni have been until now. Their ability to hold good forwards at bay while getting considerable ball themselves has been badly missed. Glass-McCasker and Macreadie just haven't been able to provide the same drive.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: pinot on June 19, 2017, 05:50:06 pm
Good to see Byrne doing well on the stats and finding the onion. Our youngsters need to push themselves a little more. None of them except Byrne, Graham and Pickett will be getting a game any time soon.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: DJC on June 19, 2017, 06:28:16 pm
Thirteen tackles apiece by Graham and Palmer; good work by a couple of experienced players.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on June 19, 2017, 08:03:20 pm
Problem we had was that players like Hanson, Gribble and Swallow really tore us apart after time...Graham, Palmer and Kerridge got plenty of ball but the Werribee trio did what they like....Polson was reasonable on Swallow but one of the reasons we had so many tackles was they had so much of the footy...
If we look at the stat that mattered we had Hanson with 10 inside 50's and Gribble with 9....thats horrendous manning up from our blokes and I would have ripped into our mids and dragged a few them off and told them to be more accountable...or it was poor coaching from Fraser not to comprehend who was doing the damage.
Cheap possies mean nothing when the oppositions mids are firing the ball inside 50 like they were and thats why players like Graham wont cut it at senior level..
Gribble was clearly BOG IMO...not sure how White got that dubious honour...made a real shocker when he gave away 50m that resulted in a goal....
Title: Re: VFL Rd 9: Northern Blues vs Werribee on TV
Post by: flyboy77 on June 19, 2017, 11:49:04 pm
Problem we had was that players like Hanson, Gribble and Swallow really tore us apart after time...Graham, Palmer and Kerridge got plenty of ball but the Werribee trio did what they like....Polson was reasonable on Swallow but one of the reasons we had so many tackles was they had so much of the footy...
If we look at the stat that mattered we had Hanson with 10 inside 50's and Gribble with 9....thats horrendous manning up from our blokes and I would have ripped into our mids and dragged a few them off and told them to be more accountable...or it was poor coaching from Fraser not to comprehend who was doing the damage.
Cheap possies mean nothing when the oppositions mids are firing the ball inside 50 like they were and thats why players like Graham wont cut it at senior level..
Gribble was clearly BOG IMO...not sure how White got that dubious honour...made a real shocker when he gave away 50m that resulted in a goal....

well put EB1