Next weeks fixture has been revealed and we are up against the Kangas down at Tassie.
Not great having to play against them, but they are currently in a slump so the timing is probably right.
I predict a couple of changes based on last weeks effort.
Out: Edwards, Downie (managed/dropped)
In: Loynes, Gibbs (Debut)
Lets see what happens.
Let's hope the MRP doesn't impact the result!
It's funny game AFL, last season I think we were lucky to win some games, but we did and that is all you can ask. This year we look less polished in general but our best footy makes us look like we should be winning, we just aren't putting it together regularly enough.
I think Rnd 1 took the wind out of our sails a bit, and set the Filth rolling, that was a cracking start to the season.
We are nowhere near our best currently.
We are playing better each week.
We have better players playing each week.
We are still somewhat out of form.
We are building... and we have enough time to build.
Its better doing it that way than what north have done which is start like an all conquering, unbeatable beast.....to missing out on finals
We are nowhere near our best currently.
We are playing better each week.
We have better players playing each week.
We are still somewhat out of form.
We are building... and we have enough time to build.
Its better doing it that way than what north have done which is start like an all conquering, unbeatable beast.....to missing out on finals
They are truly struggling just at the moment.
I wish we were on TV, as I just can't get anything on the 'net at the moment.
They are truly struggling just at the moment.
I wish we were on TV, as I just can't get anything on the 'net at the moment.
You got enough data on your phone? Use your 4g/5g and stream to your TV?
Out: Edwards, Downie (managed/dropped)
In: Loynes, Gibbs (Debut)
Lets see what happens.
Well i was kinda right.
Out: Edwards (dropped), Prespakis (susp)
In: Gibbs (debut), Plane
Question i have is, why no Loynes?
She was managed last week, and not an in this week??
CARLTON
B: K.Harrington - C 9 C.Wilson 20
HB: V.Laloifi 8 G.Pound 6 M.Guerin 18
C: L.Brazzale 12 A.McKay 5 M.Hill 10
HF: D.Vescio 3 T.Harris 7 G.Gee 19
F: N.Stevens 21 E.O'Dea 46
Foll: B.Moody 16 G.Egan 1 J.Hosking 11
I/C: N.Plane 32 L.McEvoy 13 A.Downie 30 D.Walker 23 S.Gibbs 33
Emerg: J.Edwards 25 C.Hammans 17
In: N.Plane, S.Gibbs
Out: M.Prespakis (suspension), J.Edwards (omitted)
NORTH MELBOURNE
B: D.Hardiman 31 N.Bresnehan 12
HB: J.Duffin 27 T.Randall 16 A.Gilroy 8
C: K.Ashmore 10 E.Kearney - C 9 J.Bruton 35
HF: D.Bateman 11 I.Eddey 3 K.Gillespie-Jones 5
F: S.Abbatangelo 1 D.Bannister 2
Foll: E.King 60 J.Garner 25 A.Riddell 7
I/C: E.Gavalas 22 M.King 23 T.Nestor 24 V.Saad 39 G.Campbell 43
Emerg: B.Lynch 20 G.Hammond 44
In: D.Hardiman, J.Duffin, S.Abbatangelo
Out: B.Lynch (omitted), J.Grierson (managed), B.Brown (omitted)
Won't be surprised to see McEvoy get a run in the mid rotations with Prespakis out, probably depends on match fitness.
Won't be surprised to see McEvoy get a run in the mid rotations with Prespakis out, probably depends on match fitness.
You shouldn't be surprised. She played through there last week on occassions. :P
And we're off.
....and a former Carlton player gets the first goal. KGJ.
How the hell was KGJ NOT penalised for incorrect disposal.
Gab Pound was tackling her while she took like 10 steps.....and then just dropped the ball.
Worst no-call ever.....and another goal to North.....well 1 to the umps.
Great pressure by the girls inside 50 results in yet another scoreless entry.
Keep up the pressure and the scores will come but we;ve been dominating this game with nothing to show for it.
Fwd structure?
Fwd structure?
Are you asking who is there or questioning their strategy?
How have we been penalised for having our doc checking on Odea after the big hit that had the commentators suggesting she was knocked out.
Where is the 'commen sense' rule? No longer in the rule book??
Persistence pays off. Vescio gets a lucky bounce for our first.
Hopefully the flood gates are opened now we've got the monkey off our back.
edit: and thats 2 quick ones.....ride the wave girls....
Made that look so hard... hopefully some confidence follows
Much better fwd play 👏
Bang bang bang
Thats 3
Flood gates well and truly open.
That is at least the 3rd time KGJ should've been pinged for holding the ball, but nothing.
Saad should be reported for that bump on Harris.
1 miunute later Harris has fired up and nearly caused a melee.
Look for Harris to do well after half time! She plays better angry
Bump on Harris made contact with her head. How is that not high?
Pound having a super game so far.
We play Geelong at home next Sunday
We play Geelong at home next Sunday
Percentage booster
Bump on Harris made contact with her head. How is that not high?
Harris off with concussion test now.
Saad REALLY needs to get reported now.
So far, all 6 goals of the game have been scored to the right of screen. I don't think there is a breeze, but we are kicking that way in the last.
EDIT: 7 goals
3q all Roos...
Let's hope our strong finishing side turn up this q
9 shots to 3... we need to dig deep to get this one.
Al Downie needs a big quarter.
She was lucky to get picked IMO and has done nothing to justify her picking. Been down all year and might need to make way for Gibbs from here. We can't have all 3 of Moody, Downie and Gibbs in the side. Especially when we are losing the ruck to the 1 north ruck.
Going to the scoring end.
Harris needs to fire up. Gee is ready to explode and McEvoy has barely been sighted so far.
Playing against this mob without Prespakis....its a good showing depite playing average. We can steal this and be well on our way to finals.
9 shots to 3... we need to dig deep to get this one.
We have more inside 50's though
Perfect start
Bang goes Hill in the first 30 seconds....and we are back.
I think Hill will be pushing for votes from me. Been very solid. Very poised from a first year player too.
Quick reply hurts, but got 13+ minutes to score 2 more goals.
10 mins for 3. Not confident at all I'm afraid!
Harringtons only mistake all game makes it very hard to come back from.
17 points down with 10 minutes remaining.
Not winning the ruck and missing Maddie makes it close to impossible.
Need a big Moody fist or 2.
Nice mark and finish from Hill
As with Harrington, that is probably Laloifis only mistake for the night.
Bad timing.
Bad result.
17 points in 8minutes.
3 in 7 minutes
I think that's the ball game, Kangabies have got their tails up. Probably spells the end of our finals chances as well. Grrrrr :(
Thats BS. She juggled that mark over the line, the ump was 1m away.
4 in 5 minutes.
Season defining moment
I think that's the ball game, Kangabies have got their tails up. Probably spells the end of our finals chances as well. Grrrrr :(
Nope.
Cats next week will put us back to 3-3. Win the last 2 (i think there is 8 games?) and we'd be 5-3 and get in i reckon.
Good kicking is good football. Norths kicking has been superb.
We are carrying too many butchers.
Wilson is terrible.
Moody gets distance at the expense of accuracy.
Ditto Brazzalle.
There are plenty of others that are average at best.
Not enough elite users. Gee, Vescio.....prespakis.
Disappointing.
Like many of our games, our performance was patchy. This is not how finals bound sides play 😪
Desperately missing Brooke Walker (and Dalton) and lacking midfield depth
Wilson is a superb mark but can't kick to save herself. Why don't we play to that?
Probably only dominated for a quarter of footy. Roos definitely deserve the W
Wilson is a superb mark but can't kick to save herself. Why don't we play to that?
Every week the opposition give her extra space as we are trying to come out of the backline. We kick it to her. She turns it over.
The opposition want her to have the ball, we need to stop giving it to her, or at least run past for the handball.
The opposition are smarter than us.
Its hard because you don't want to destroy her confidence by saying "Don't let Wilson kick it!"....but you probably need to for the benefit of the team.
I have never seen so many turnovers by foot in a game of football. The number of our kicks that went to a North player was insane. But they were just the hungrier and cleaner team. Harris needs a spell, her knee can't be right.
I have never seen so many turnovers by foot in a game of football. The number of our kicks that went to a North player was insane. But they were just the hungrier and cleaner team. Harris needs a spell, her knee can't be right.
What? Haven't you been watching the Carlton Football Club for the past two decades? The club refuses to recruit anyone with any ability to hit a target. It's a prerequisite that you're a turnover merchant to be drafted by the club.
Beit the girls or men, having the ability to kill momentum with an absolute howler is seen as peak brilliance. It's like they revere it at the club during the week leading into games and gift games to the worst offenders... To be honest, it's embarrassing...
Two weeks in a row we've looked disorganised, running the wrong way, U10 handballs to nobody. As I said the first AFLW team that learns to seriously handball will rip the competition apart, because those U10 handballs are putrid.
We have the game style, but we too many players who handball like the foot is made of concrete, or like they don't want to hurt the footy!
Wilson is a superb mark but can't kick to save herself.
I would say a strong mark but the kicking comment is too true.
Two weeks in a row we've looked disorganised, running the wrong way, U10 handballs to nobody. As I said the first AFLW team that learns to seriously handball will rip the competition apart, because those U10 handballs are putrid.
We have the game style, but we too many players who handball like the foot is made of concrete, or like they don't want to hurt the footy!
I reckon there was a lack of effort last night night also (especially compared to North). There were instances of players simply no going hard enough which our girls a typically renowned for. There was one passage of play (may have been the 3rd) the ball was on one of our flanks and 2 or 3 of our players stood around and and waited for the other to go get it. Some may say this is lack of communication which is partly true IMO, effort is the key in that situation though. Dare I say it as I hate this term but they didn't turn up to play last night and coupled with disposal errors cost us dearly.
I reckon there was a lack of effort last night night also (especially compared to North). There were instances of players simply no going hard enough which our girls a typically renowned for. There was one passage of play (may have been the 3rd) the ball was on one of our flanks and 2 or 3 of our players stood around and and waited for the other to go get it. Some may say this is lack of communication which is partly true IMO, effort is the key in that situation though. Dare I say it as I hate this term but they didn't turn up to play last night and coupled with disposal errors cost us dearly.
There was a few occasions where teammates left out to eachother and nobody ended up picking it up. Downie did it twice. She also played front and square in marking contests that she could've turned around and marked.
She fumbles. She is shot.
We missed loynes and prespakis last night. They not only attack the footy, but use it will too and inspire confidence ofn those around them.
There was a few occasions where teammates left out to eachother and nobody ended up picking it up. Downie did it twice. She also played front and square in marking contests that she could've turned around and marked.
She fumbles. She is shot.
We missed loynes and prespakis last night. They not only attack the footy, but use it will too and inspire confidence ofn those around them.
Yes very true re the missing two.
Only saw a few highlights this morning. More than enough for me regardless of result. But what was that jumper about?
Only saw a few highlights this morning. More than enough for me regardless of result. But what was that jumper about?
Indigenous round.
There is a video explaining it in detail
I reckon there was a lack of effort last night night also (especially compared to North). There were instances of players simply no going hard enough which our girls a typically renowned for. There was one passage of play (may have been the 3rd) the ball was on one of our flanks and 2 or 3 of our players stood around and and waited for the other to go get it. Some may say this is lack of communication which is partly true IMO, effort is the key in that situation though. Dare I say it as I hate this term but they didn't turn up to play last night and coupled with disposal errors cost us dearly.
I think we rely too much of Harris to be the enforcer type, and it's taking a toll. We are getting beaten up by umpires for dangerous or high tackles from opponents ducking their head against us, and smashed by opponents without recourse from the umpires because our girls do not duck their head. I've no idea why this is happening, but it's fairly self-evident on the replay.
In effect the way the game is being officiated has changed this season and we haven't adapted, but I'm glad our girls aren't doing the head ducking bullcrap!
Without Maddie P outed, Chloe Dalton away, Brooke Walker recovering from injury and Katie Loynes being 'managed', We needed our rucks to get on top yesterday and it didn't happen. For the first time in a long time Moody and Downie were smashed. Without first access to the ball we were going to struggle and that was the case in spades.
I am afraid that this is Alison Downie's last season. She struggled and simply isn't having the impact we need from her.
Selina Gibbs looked reasonable, but appears, at this point, to be better as a forward rather than a ruck. She did some good things and was really unlucky. She should have had her mark in front of goal paid, as she had a lot more of the ball than Bannister did down the other end. Her kicking also looks reasonable.
I am not sure that the Elise O'Dea experiment is working. She has heart and guts, but she struggles with the pace of the game. I understand that she is there for leadership as well, but she has struggled to get a lot of the ball. Only once has she got more than 15 possessions.
Katie Loynes: I love Katie's attack on the ball, but injuries and time are catching up with her. Her leadership is great, but her numbers are not getting any larger. I think she may retire at the end of this season. That said, we missed her last night, especially in the middle. I don't know if she would have made the difference, not with the armchair ride the North mids were getting, but her leadership would have been inspirational.
Bree Moody: I love her attack on the ball and her athleticism, but she isn't a smart player. Unlike Downie, who is a cunning ruck with good body skills in the middle, Moody uses her athleticism and attack on the ball. Last night she ran into two players who were similar, but one was taller and the other more cunning. That's the way it goes, but with Downie spending so little time in the ruck, it left us on the receiving end. She'll be better next week, but it is an area we have to plan for now.
Mimi Hill was tremendous last night and close to our best player. She is the future for us, like Maddie P. her run and pace was excellent and her kicking for goal was good. if we got a plus out of last night, Hill was it.
Tayla Harris: Our transition to the forward line is one of our weaknesses at the moment and it isn't helping Tayla at all. We just don't deliver the ball to her, and when we kick long, we do it so slowly that she isn't one out. Also, it is so crowded that we don't get the crumbing goals.
In part that is a problem of the Pagan's paddock style without having the bodies to pull it off.
However, part is Tayla, who has stagnated as a player. Teams rarely give her a run at the ball to her use gifts in the air. They crowd her. But her game hasn't improved that much.
One of the reasons is obvious: she doesn't play a lot of footy except in the AFLW season or pre-season. The other is that her knees are nowhere near perfect.
What do we do? Well, one of the things to do is get another tall forward out there. Gibbs could be the answer, but she has considerable learning to do. Neither Vescio nor Stevens is the key forward, neither has the body for it, no matter how well they play.
We are effectively playing with one key forward every week. And we don't get crumbing goals.
We will be better with our players back and fit, but that may be next year.
We will be better with our players back and fit, but that may be next year.
Yep, that's a given now, very unlikely to make the finals given the percentage differences.
One positive from last night was the kids, they have some go!
I am not sure that the Elise O'Dea experiment is working. She has heart and guts, but she struggles with the pace of the game. I understand that she is there for leadership as well, but she has struggled to get a lot of the ball. Only once has she got more than 15 possessions.
Don't forget that she was basically concussed early in that game Crash. I'm not surprised if she was 'a bit off'.
It was only a few weeks ago (not sure if you ended up catching the game in the end) that she was basically BOG (or second behind Prespakis).
She has her place in the side. She may have been asked to play out of position a bit last night due to circumstances, but she has plenty to offer still.
With Hill and McKay coming on, together with Prespakis and Egan leading the way in the middle. She won't really be required much in the guts. We can use her to our advantage a bit more. Deep forward where her hardness locks the ball in, and her skills find a teammate (or the goals). That would also allow her to drift up the ground (and down back) where she often helps out with her defensive running.
Personally i'm more worried about our KP stocks.
Gibbs may have impressed you, but compared to the debuts of Hill, Daisy Walker and Guerrin, Hammans, O'Dea......i think it was less than impressive and behind all the others.
I'm not writing her off, i called for her inclusion, but she has a long way to go before she picks up the pace of AFLW.
At the same time, Harris still hasn't managed to unlock her full potential yet either. When she is angry, she dominates. Other times she can go missing. Her hits are as good as any in the game. Her marking is better than anyone else in the game. Her kicking action is iconic, and distance is never an issue, but accuracy is still lacking.
If both Harris and Gibbs live up to their potential.....we will be unbeatable up forward.
If not.....what else do we have? Stevens as a 3rd tall who can't mark?? Cupboard is bare.
I think we were expecting more goals from our small forwards, and it's just not eventuated.
But it's tough given the way the game is being umpired, you can hang onto the footy forever, and then basically drop it unpenalized. It leaves our small tackling runners buried in traffic with next to no hope of breaking away.
Roos should send a big hamper to AFL house. Attention J. Geischen.
Roos should send a big hamper to AFL house. Attention J. Geischen.
He retired about 10 years ago, Dan Richardson is the Umpires boss so send all corro and gifts to him :D
Didn't he prosecute the case for the AFL last week?
Tayla Harris gave Emma Kearney a late bump or shove in the back and had a free kick paid against her and fair enough. Two North players then charged Harris and knocked her to the ground. Why wasn't the free kick reversed?
Tayla Harris gave Emma Kearney a late bump or shove in the back and had a free kick paid against her and fair enough. Two North players then charged Harris and knocked her to the ground. Why wasn't the free kick reversed?
Damned good question. That has happened a couple of time this year.
Damned good question. That has happened a couple of time this year.
They think Harris dives for free kicks, that because she is a boxer the opposition can't really hurt her, and because she is a boxer she is always the instigator, it's a stupid mentality! Tayla "Big Bad Barry Hall" Harris!
Personally, I realise I mustn't condone this, but perhaps the best way for Tayla to end this is to do a Barry Hall or a Chris Yarran, and the moment we can't make the finals drop someone who is crossing the line and wear the penalty. If you can't get justice on the field, long term you will at least make opponents hesitant to poke the bear. She shouldn't snap in that manner, but they shouldn't be deliberately provoking that sort of response either!
Damned good question. That has happened a couple of time this year.
Harking back to EB’s comments about the look of the game, incidents like this should stamped on. It’s not a good look when an unsuspecting player is knocked to the ground during a break in play. In my opinion, it’s much worse than a legal tackle that was sensationalised by a commentator.