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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
The downside of using it in the VFL is the overall standard is lower. The conditions and the grounds are worse.
As a result, it would be 'uglier' than it would be at AFL level.


No doubt there would be a few issues, but it's  better to trial it properly and see how it goes than to introduce it at senior level and then have to abandon it because of unforeseen problems.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
Yep
I thought about the VFL.
I'd be quite happy to see it trialled there first for a season or two.
Senior coaches would get an opportunity to see it in action and work out strategies to cope with the new approach.
We'd all be able to see the benefits,  and any problems.
It would also probably give the second tier competition a bit of a boost as folks tuned in to see the new rules in action.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
The unknown though...is the 'unknown'.
We can visualise it, we can run our own scenarios looking at games and how things might go, but they'll come with a bit of bias either way.

Until you run a proper trial, the problems and the tactics used to nullify the rule won't be apparent.
And you can almost guarantee there will be unforseen consequences to such a change.
I think it's probably a fair guess to assume that initially it may result in more stoppages as players get pinged and both ball-players and tacklers delay and dwell on the contest and contact.

So any trial would require a bit of time before any benefits are realised and it becomes a fixed rule.
Not sure how you accomplish that.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
Inconsistency is the big issue at the moment.
It's all over the shop.

The time of the game is another huge factor.
With all these close games there is a definite reluctance by the umpires to blow the whistle.
Some might consider that a good thing, maybe it is, but blatant infringements are being ignored and in effect the rules aren't determining the game, it's the umpires lack of action...or sometimes the decision to act.
When they do occasionally pay them it stands out and legitimate decisions are labelled trivial and not in the spirit of the game.
Players are urged to play out the game, the umpires shouldn't get to clock off with ten minutes to go.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
I'm not averse to giving the removing the prior opportunity a go.
But I think we need to see it trialled before we make the change to determine how much of a difference it would make.
Just for a bit of fun I watched a quarter  a few weeks ago and tried to 'umpire' it on the basis of get the ball and if tackled release it virtually immediately in a proper manner...no prior.
Of course it may very well  have been my interpretation, but I only counted 4 occasions when it would have made a difference...when a free might have been paid.
I'm guessing it was probably a lot greater on the weekend
I wonder how much difference it would make to the game, but we won't know unless we trial it...with umpires a bit more accomplished than my good self :))
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
Where's arnie with the stats of how we go with one ruck vs how we go with 2. 

Unless you consider the quality of the opposition, our team in's and out's, the opposition in's and out's it's probably not worth the time and effort.

If you take those things on face value we just have to have Fogarty in the team and we're as good as over the line :D  :D
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
I think we don't make too many changes next week.
Just go with Tom as the one ruck.

I really can see the benefits of both options.
It's why it's hard to come down in favour of just the one approach.

Horses for courses is OK, but making that judgement would take a fair bit of analysis.

The thing I need to see more of is... how either option works consistently against quality opposition.
If we'd gone with just one ruck against Sydney...how would we have fared?
Gold Coast in Melbourne wasn't quite the same level of difficulty...and that can distort comparisons.
Port in Adelaide will be a tough ask and if the one ruck works equally as well as it did yesterday that's a point in it's favour.

So, just the one next week.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
Some free kick numbers.
At 3/4 time it was 4-14 (I screenshotted to a friend)
It was then 5-15, 6-16 and then we got the last 5 jn a row to 'even it up' to 11-16....and some of them were definitely not there.

I've never heard the crowd chant "bull-$h!t" so many times in a game. At least 3 times it was loud and clear and directed at the umps. There was also the 'umpire is a wanker' chant that was brought out of retirement too.
When you have 40k at the game and a coach talking about the umps you know something needs to be looked at.

Thankfully, we managed to come out of it with a win anyway.

Yep
Voss in his press conference was pretty clear.
Umpire decisions are something that he doesn't normally dwell on...at least not publicly.
For him to mention it, meant he found some of the decisions a bit baffling.
He trod a fine line, stating that it's something we need 'clarification' on because the umpires are obviously interpeting things a little different to us and the way we're instructing players.

In other words....he thought they were "bullsh**t " decisions too.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
Voss a bit unsure with some of the umpiring decisions... so is going to seek clarification. :D  :D

Kind of suggested that while he's happy with the Pitto/TDK combination and that they are developing well, TDK's efforts "have given us a lot to think about" which may suggest...."they have a lot to think about" going forward.
I don't think anything is set in stone.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
The thing is that the rucks are just one 'variable' in a host of 'variables' that have to be considered, including players, in, players out, opposition, weather conditions even venues.

In the GWS game Tom kicked three and Pittonet gave the midfield an armchair ride.

If we look at the teams we played with two rucks, vs the teams we played with one at the start of the year...how were they all going at the time.

It's impossible to be definite.
We can have a view, but it will probably sort itself out as the season progresses.
Having both is a handy backup position if we do decide to go with just one, because odds are they won't both be available for all games.



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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Post Game Postulations Carlton vs Gold Coast
Let's not get buried down in the ruck debate.

How would we have gone with one ruck against Sydney?
How would we have gone with 2 rucks today?
We actually have no idea.

Different games.
Different venues.
Different opposition.

A good win today, still lots to work on.
But good to see signs of a bit of versatility in the side.
Williams much more impactful as a forward and not really needed as a backman.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 11 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Gold Coast
I asked the AI if we would win...looks like we will 95-76 :D

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Based on the latest predictions and betting odds, Carlton is favored to win against Gold Coast in their upcoming AFL Round 11 match. The game is scheduled for Saturday, May 25, 2024, at Marvel Stadium. The predictive analytics model from Stats Insider gives Carlton a 76% chance of victory, with a predicted final score of 95-76 in favor of Carlton1. This prediction is based on 10,000 game simulations and takes into account each team’s average score.

Remember, while predictions can provide insights, the outcome of any sports match can never be guaranteed. It should be an exciting game to watch! 🏉