Gibbs starting on the bench.
Tigers are physically smashing us. Hopefully we can stand up to it.
Geez Simon White is an awful brainfader. WTF was that?
What happened to Jamo?
Jamison and murphy now off due to rough play.
What happened to Jamo?
Vickery bump to the head.
Im at low level mcc members wing. ..murphy is being hit hard and targeted..at least 4 knocks to head 1st quarter ....umps doing nothing
screwing ****.
Dirty rotten bar*tards, always seem to be playing the man
Tutt is getting involved
Cotchin is the new velvet sledgehammer.
Geez that was an awful turnover from Carrazzo.
Bell needs to get involved. B
OMG seriously fk off Yarran I've had enough. Trade the idiot.
Yarran's papers are stamped. Trade value gets worse by the week.
Yarran is awful tonight
Yarran,is affected by a major issue in his life and should not be playing.
So far - goal kicking shizen, general play not bad, stupidity a bit on the high side.
Tigers should be ashamed.
Not too shabby.
Some absolute howlers from Carrazzo, Tuohy and Yarran. Everitt is one of the blokes that's great on the attack but has zero defensive side.
Agree on the rough play. Dimmer has obviously shown them plenty of footage from the 70's and 80's. Tigerish footy indeed.
Harsh on Touy. What's Yarran's problem??
Umpiring is deplorable, that one against Gibbs when he was standing and got done for holding the ball WTF. And then the same thing has happened all game, utter bull sh..
Agree on the rough play. Dimmer has obviously shown them plenty of footage from the 70's and 80's. Tigerish footy indeed.
Must've been the game from '73
What's going on with Hampson? He's held four marks :o
Yarran,is affected by a major issue in his life and should not be playing.
He shouldn't be.
It's pretty obvious there is something radically wrong there.
Must've been the game from '73
I can't even bear to think about it.
What's going on with Hampson? He's held four marks :o
Development.
Chocolates to boiled lollies for Armfield and Bell.
Carrazzo, Kreuzer,Gibbs and Curnow have been good, Tutt much better than he has been but his skills still look a bit dodgy, Fields looks miles off the pace.
We need a lift from half a dozen players, it's a big ask but not impossible.
Yarran needs to sort his life out before he becomes a complete liability.
Tutt has been okay. Has a real crack, skills not usually up to it but better tonight.
Tutt has been okay. Has a real crack, skills not usually up to it but better tonight.
That tackle on the wing where he wrapped up Vickery and was awarded HTB was gold.
Yarran needs to sort his life out before he becomes a complete liability.
On tonight's effort he is a liability.
Now as has been speculated it might be a deeper issue but the club need to work it out.
Give him a break or drop him back for a spell.
Tutt has been okay. Has a real crack, skills not usually up to it but better tonight.
Needs to land his tackles with a little more conviction. As though he wants to hurt the opponent. It will help spill the ball more often. Otherwise a better game from him so far.
Lods, I agree with you on your last comment. He better improve in the second half. Couldn't get any worse to be honest.
I would have Tutt in the votes at half time. Hope some others can step up...
On tonight's effort he is a liability.
Now as has been speculated it might be a deeper issue but the club need to work it out.
Give him a break or drop him back for a spell.
should be given time off from the game......gone ga ga at present.
Hopefully he comes out and at least has a crack.
If Tutt wasn't already out there I suspect he'd be subbed by now
It might be worth moving him forward
Is the umpiring very anti Carlton or do I have my CFC glasses on?
Henderson 3 touches. Rance 18 lol.
Th Vickery... Deadset dog act... In a long line of proud tiger dog acts on Carlton fullbacks. Six weeks you hound.
2 goals. So much for our free running football.
Poor skills just killing us here
Great mark Dylan.
Menzel needs to stop the operatics.
Missing Rowe , unfortunate re Jammo leaving us with lack of options
How much does Henderson want?
The man bun isn't enjoying the contact tonight at all.
Missing Rowe , unfortunate re Jammo leaving us with lack of options
Agree - defence very undermanned.
Forward 50 entry method:
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
If at first you don't succeed try again another 50 times.
Could have sworn I heard bronx cheers then.
Bell down now. When do you stand up for yourselves?
Forward 50 entry method:
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
If at first you don't succeed try again another 50 times.
Ah yes, but we're slow leaners. And guess what. Hendo finally marked it. See, I told you our systems work.
Forward 50 entry method:
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
Kick long to Henderson - rebound.
If at first you don't succeed try again another 50 times.
Yep. He kicked a goal there but wasn't on Rance who has slaughtered him. I know he wasn't meant to play a full game, but Tutt is a hack. Shouldn't even be playing sub.
Fields has tried and just got murdered by the umpires.
Turnovers are killing us.
The reason that Greg Williams and Bruce Doull who were slower than me were brilliant footballers, is that they had the one thing that separates REAL champions from good footballers. They had a football brain. They could read a game beautifully. They could anticipate how a ball would bounce, where an opponent would kick it, and 9 times out of 10, made the right decision.
And one other quality that they had which separates the courageous from the weak. They always picked the ball up BEFORE they looked at what they were going to do with it.
These are the players in our team tonight that I believe have a football brain.
Cripps and Kreuzer.
Murphy, Gibbs, Jamieson, Casboult, Touhey, Everrit, Simpson and Menzel and Wood, have half a football brain.
Holman has the potential to have a football brain.
And at this point in time, Buckley doesn't and Fields is to new to know.
Carrazo, Bell, Henderson, Armfield, Curnow and Tutt are brainless.
Carazzo always was. Heaps of possessions but a turnover king and at the end of the day, you would not ever be looking at him to win a game for you.
Bell, is big, and strong, but can't field kick and makes terrible choices.
Henderson. In a contested mark situation, even if he has front position, Henderson will be out marked or out positioned 9 times out of 10. He is useless in general field play because he lacks both the leadership and intelligence to make a mark on his team mates and the game. When he doesn't get his way, like tonight, he tosses the towel in.
Definitely should be traded.
Armfield is in and out. One week good one week invisible, the story of his life. A very limited footballer.
Curnow run s around like a headless chook and with his mouth permanently open. He can't kick, he can't pass, his handballs don't hit the mark, and he makes poor choices. Hence No football brain.
Tutt. Puleeeze.
I know Jim Buckley well, and he has passed on his guts and determination to Dylan, but not much else.
Tonight was the 5th. time in the past few weeks that Dylan has decided to run and carry, AND BEEN CAUGHT.
He simply lacks the football brain to quickly sum up the situation and know what he has to do BEFORE he gets caught. Hopefully his dad can in some way impart on to him a football brain.
The players that I mentioned with half a football brain, let themselves down and have brain fades by consistently turning the ball over, by making poor choices every so often which costs the team.
When shooting for goal, they neither concentrate on the job at hand, don't work out that if they run out to a side they will automatically hook the ball, don't allow for the ball drifting across the goals when on an angle, or run in too close to the man on the mark.
Virtually all of them will give away a stupid free kick when tackling. Their opponent will be standing upright giving them a whole body to tackle, yet they will find a way to grab them around the neck.
Aside from Cripps and sometimes Bell, none of them can stick a tackle to save their lives.
They should have beaten the Bulldogs last week, and if they did the right thing 80% of the time tonight rather than 20%, they could beat Richmond.
Just a few more things. Their kicking to position is woeful. Their hardball skills are totally non-existent, and I am sick and tired of them bending down to pick up the ball, but rather than pick it up then look at what possibilities are available, assume they will pick it up, and therefore miss the ball completely.
THE COACH.
The players love him.
So I don't. WE need a tough hard Bastarrrd who will show some emotion when they fck up, rather than sit there emotionless staring into space.
I'm not saying he's a bad bloke. In fact I know that he is a really good bloke.
But we don't need a good bloke. We need an experienced tough uncompromising coach who won't accept second best.
The players have said that Barker has told them to take the game on and they are playing freer footy.
You didn't need Barker to tell them that. We all knew that. We just had a crusty old coach who was too set in his ways.
We need a tough forward thinking coach, who is not afraid to make moves, during a game, and at training get them a tackling coach who actually can teach them to tackle, employ Sav Rocca full time if possible to teach them all how to kick, get them to practice kicking to a player up the ground until their feet bleed, and get a past player like Greg Williams in to take them through a game, actually teach them the way to think during a game.
Aside from that, we could do with a few decent players.
What's going on with Hampson? He's held four marks :o
He had his eyes fixed and that's NOT a joke.
That is an absolute joke. Momentum killer.
Does anyone keep the stats as to how many stupid frees Carazzo has given away in his life time?
Some of the marks and free kicks paid are bizarre.
Does anyone keep the stats as to how many stupid frees Carazzo has given away in his life time?
You have officially lost it. He's just about our best and it wasn't a free, seems the ump wasn't the only idiot sucked in.
Has Menzel had a kick?
A few of our boys are wounded, but playing with spirit. Unfortunately, too many skill errors, missed shots at goal, turnovers etc. Just a lack of class and composure.
Oh, and there's the umpiring.
You have officially lost it. He's just about our best and it wasn't a free, seems the ump wasn't the only idiot sucked in.
You must be watching a replay of last nights game.
He has spent his career giving away stupid frees when it has been totally unnecessary to do so.
How TF was Kreuzers mark not paid?
Umps are frustrating me tonight, trigger happy, Kruz mark???? rest of the W/E they wont pay a free!!!
How TF was Kreuzers mark not paid?
If he kicks it we are three goals down.
A few of our boys are wounded, but playing with spirit. Unfortunately, too many skill errors, missed shots at goal, turnovers etc. Just a lack of class and composure.
Oh, and there's the umpiring.
Even with three umpires, the idiots have NEVER improved.
Nothing has changed in the 60 years I have been watching mate. Umpires will ALWAYS favour a team with the momentum, in a disputed situation.
Umpiring and skill level have been terrible. The effort has been pretty good. No Rowe or Jamo has meant we are struggling down back but the game would be in a very different place if the field and goal kicking improved to afl standard!.
I am worried about Yazz, he used to be a joy to watch. Now he lacks flare. Unfortunately I think he is trade bait and will make a lot of non Carlton people happy, like Eddie.
How TF was Kreuzers mark not paid?
Every in game thread is the same. Most of us gobsmakced by bizarre decisions.
Curnow run s around like a headless chook and with his mouth permanently open. He can't kick, he can't pass, his handballs don't hit the mark, and he makes poor choices. Hence No football brain.
Curnow has good football instincts I reckon, he just doesn't have much skill.
Umpiring and skill level have been terrible. The effort has been pretty good. No Rowe or Jamo has meant we are struggling down back but the game would be in a very different place if the field and goal kicking improved to afl standard!.
I am worried about Yazz, he used to be a joy to watch. Now he lacks flare. Unfortunately I think he is trade bait and will make a lot of non Carlton people happy, like Eddie.
He and Hendo are just taking the mick at the moment.
Did anyone think Carratts would kick that?
Umpiring and skill level have been terrible. The effort has been pretty good. No Rowe or Jamo has meant we are struggling down back but the game would be in a very different place if the field and goal kicking improved to afl standard!.
I am worried about Yazz, he used to be a joy to watch. Now he lacks flare. Unfortunately I think he is trade bait and will make a lot of non Carlton people happy, like Eddie.
If other clubs know what his issue is, they won't want him Dave. They have their own players with the same problem and don't need another one.
Did anyone think Carratts would kick that?
I said in my rather long post that you will never expect him to win a game for you. And like you, I never expected him to kick that.
Creating some opportunities, but lacking that class to finish of and finish in a score has hurt us for most of the year
Geez that was awful from White.
If other clubs know what his issue is, they won't want him Dave. They have their own players with the same problem and don't need another one.
Care to share the secret Bignic? Probably private message if it is sensitive. It is a shame, I used to love watching him play. Effortless and skillful.
Every in game thread is the same. Most of us gobsmakced by bizarre decisions.
Until we have enough balls to make life tougher for the AFL and it's officials off the field, we will keep getting screwed on the field! ;)
AFL isn't an Even-Stevens competition, in AFL whingers are winners!
Creating some opportunities, but lacking that class to finish of and finish in a score has hurt us for most of the year
Pretty much sums it up IMO.
Kinda lost the 'team' feel tonight. Oh well, like Krooze's game
Stamp carozzos papers please sos....
Every in game thread is the same. Most of us gobsmakced by bizarre decisions.
I get the umpires always give the benefit of the doubt to the team higher on the ladder and who they believe should win.
However that mark was a very clear Mark to kruezer, clear as bloody day
Care to share the secret Bignic? Probably private message if it is sensitive. It is a shame, I used to love watching him play. Effortless and skillful.
Done it for you Dave.
How TF was Kreuzers mark not paid?
Right after Vickery got paid for one he dropped.
I get the umpires always give the benefit of the doubt to the team higher on the ladder and who they believe should win.
However that mark was a very clear Mark to kruezer, clear as bloody day
I agree.
Carey roasting Henderson.
I agree.
That unpaid mark, wouldn't have made a difference, because we just don't have the personnel and are making far too many unforced errors.
BUT, it is just a further indictment on how bad the umpiring is, when three of the imbeciles can't get it right.
Menzel should have stayed home.
Done it for you Dave.
Thanks bignic
Carey should be roasting the ducking umpiring.
Cant watch any more due to the ineptness of the umpires and the cost of a new TV
This umpiring saga continues against us time and time again.
The AFL is rigged, they want us plying well but not winning.
I'm totally sick of it, had a gut full.
Wish we had a workhorse CHF like Earl Spalding playing would make such a difference,
Carey roasting Henderson.
I think Hendo is a very good chb but an average forward line player. We need a player we can build a forward line around.
Boys on triple m are very unimpressed with Everitt's efforts
Dusty tried to slam Touhy into a post, time to say enuffs snuff.
What is wrong with andreas everitt? Looks fine when he gets on the end of an easy kick but otherwise plays like he's mentally retarded. Does not have any urgency, won't shepherd, can't tackle, won't run to pressure the opposition - just jogs, no capability for team play at all. Just a putrid player. Nobody seems to notice though.
Mate Bannister has been awful tonight, pathetic umpiring performance, the bloke has lost the plot.
Everett has faded after a good start, but not the only one missing
Boys on triple m are very unimpressed with Everitt's efforts
Insipid efforts all night. Not a defensive bone in his body.
Worst umpiring I have seen all year.
So OUR recognised ruckman is going up for a ball up, applies contact to the contest and our third man goes up but we get done for sheparding. WTF?
Carey should be roasting the ducking umpiring.
Carey has become a pussycat on TV.
Following all his legal issues, grabbing a woman on the breast, cocaine found at his apartment etc, he has worked hard not to annoy anyone in authority. So he isn't going to risk his job at 7, and is learning from my old mate Bruce who has become impossible to listen to, to be careful what he says about umpires.
Weak Gibbs, weak.
Boys on triple m are very unimpressed with Everitt's efforts
If even the sh#t-dribbling half-wit inbred dunces on TripleM can pick it up it must be obvious.
What is wrong with andreas everitt? Looks fine when he gets on the end of an easy kick but otherwise plays like he's mentally retarded. Does not have any urgency, won't shepherd, can't tackle, won't run to pressure the opposition - just jogs, no capability for team play at all. Just a putrid player. Nobody seems to notice though.
Why do you reckon the Swans let him go!!!
Weak Gibbs, weak.
He is injured.
Dusty tried to slam Touhy into a post, time to say enuffs snuff.
and pushed Bell into the fence but hey he's a hero so no ramifications
We need a forward line.
Dusty tried to slam Touhy into a post, time to say enuffs snuff.
and pushed Bell into the fence but hey he's a hero so no ramifications
you said that already ;) ;) ;) ;)
Everitt, Tutt, Curnow all hear footsteps, we won't go forward with players like that. Only one of three can be in the team at a time.
Carrazzo is physically and mentally cooked.
Yarran is mentally cooked.
Hendo is a lost soul.
Worst umpiring I have seen all year.
Agree.
Let's face it. Neither team decorated themselves in glory. Wasn't a great game to watch. 6th playing 16th. A couple of junk time goals. Early injuries to us. Not a terrible result all things considered. I was expecting much worse.
And we slam a bloke and get weeks... AFL level playing field my bum.
And we slam a bloke and get weeks... AFL level playing field my bum.
I agree but the umpiring made it impossible to watch
Tonights game.
Yarran is a big problem.
Umpires need to go to spec savers.
Kreuzer busts his arse, and even though he isn't a great ruck others need to follow in his foot steps with his one percenters.
Rowe and Jamo need to be fit each and every game.
Fields needs more games, but he needs to put some effort into his actions. This is AFL, not VFL.
Cotchin is a dirty prick. He grabbed Murphy by the short and curlies early in the game. That is just not on. Dirty smelly little scum bag.
Very, very angry with our game tonight. It really was a game we could have won, if we didn't turn the ball over every second disposal. >:(
Tonights game.
Yarran is a big problem.
Umpires need to go to spec savers.
Kreuzer busts his arse, and even though he isn't a great ruck others need to follow in his foot steps with his one percenters.
Rowe and Jamo need to be fit each and every game.
Fields needs more games, but he needs to put some effort into his actions. This is AFL, not VFL.
Cotchin is a dirty prick. He grabbed Murphy by the short and curlies early in the game. That is just not on. Dirty smelly little scum bag.
Very, very angry with our game tonight. It really was a game we could have won, if we didn't turn the ball over every second disposal. >:(
Kreuzer is such a good player. Should be captain. Shame about the injuries and the introverted personality.
A couple of real turning points Yarrans brain fade when we were really pressing & Kruezers mark really set us back when we were still in it , but good sides find a way. Lacking class, intensity & skill until we address these issues we will find ourselves bottom 4
If other clubs know what his issue is, they won't want him Dave. They have their own players with the same problem and don't need another one.
Sad to hear if there is a real issue, he seems really lost , just watching the game go by. Has lost his direction & feel for the game.
We need a forward line.
Hey, good idea!
We were pretty woeful in that dept. tonight.