Carlton Supporters Club

Top post Crash. And just on the last point, not only do we have groups that fight any change, we go and make a critical piece of infrastructure, that the everyone can benefit from, an election issue. How imbecilic was that? What does which political party you support have to do with a bit of "kit" EVERYONE can benefit from? It makes no sense to me.

Blame the Liberals entirely. Signed the East/West contract trying to play politics knowing they were going to lose the election, also knowing Labor wasn't building it. It went to the election and Labor won. How many people complaining that it's not being built voted Labor? Andrews made a promise and he kept it. Libs were only going to Toll up every other road to pay for it, meaning people like me, who wouldn't use the East/West link would have to pay a toll on another road.

Westgate Freeway can be pretty bad, so the Western Distributor suits me alot better. Personally couldn't give a toss about the East/West link.

Took me over 90 minutes to get home today (From Kew)....and i live in the north and was nowhere near the west gate and its holdups.

East west tunnel would work, but its a bandaid on a potentially lethal cut.

They need to heavily invest in PT and get all these cars off the road, then there will be less traffic and less traffic accidents!

Not trying to justify wasting a billion dollars, but as carrots said, its far from unusual.

Build the link, sure, but in 10 years time it'll be just like it is now. Bandaid solution.

Rail needs a rethink to handle the extra, sure, but it can be done

How does that make it a bandaid? There's not a single bit of complicated infrastructure you build once and forget. It needs investment and updating otherwise it becomes an issue.

Agree IOT. It has to be part of a master plan, its a just piece of the jig saw.

One of the problems with our transport infrastructure is that it's not integrated.

A rail line should have been built down the middle of the Eastern Freeway and another should have gone in on  the Tullamarine.  It's a scandal that we don't have a train servicing Melbourne Airport'

Of course, the radial nature of our rail system needs to be addressed with suburban interchanges getting people to their destinations without going through the CBD.  Getting heavy vehicles off the road wouldn't go astray but it all costs money and Aussie politicians are terrified of raising taxes, or even not reducing current taxes.

Melbourne is not the only city to suffer traffic chaos when something goes wrong.  I was heading north out of Paris a couple of years ago and there was a truck fire on the inbound lane.  The traffic was banked up for 21kms and there were hundreds of vehicles still heading towards the jam.

Effective planning is the key - we seem to be in constant reaction mode in this state, and plagued by politicised decisions

Funny to think there actually was an outer circle train line and a bunch of various criss-crossing links between lines. Long gone now. They had more nous in 1890.

You put a train line into Tulla airport then a lot of people will be out of work...not a good way to win voters over in the affected industries...

Blame the Liberals entirely. Signed the East/West contract trying to play politics knowing they were going to lose the election, also knowing Labor wasn't building it. It went to the election and Labor won. How many people complaining that it's not being built voted Labor? Andrews made a promise and he kept it. Libs were only going to Toll up every other road to pay for it, meaning people like me, who wouldn't use the East/West link would have to pay a toll on another road.

Westgate Freeway can be pretty bad, so the Western Distributor suits me alot better. Personally couldn't give a toss about the East/West link.

Effective planning is the key - we seem to be in constant reaction mode in this state, and plagued by politicised decisions

Blame the Liberals entirely. Signed the East/West contract trying to play politics knowing they were going to lose the election, also knowing Labor wasn't building it. It went to the election and Labor won. How many people complaining that it's not being built voted Labor? Andrews made a promise and he kept it. Libs were only going to Toll up every other road to pay for it, meaning people like me, who wouldn't use the East/West link would have to pay a toll on another road.

Westgate Freeway can be pretty bad, so the Western Distributor suits me alot better. Personally couldn't give a toss about the East/West link.