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Re: AFL Rd 5 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #105 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
I saw stuff live that made me think the game review will be hard to watch for some players this week.
Good.  Sometimes getting the 4 points helps to wallpaper over issues.

We should have won, but didn't - so time to go to work to understand where we fell short.
This is now the longest premiership drought in the history of the Carlton Football Club - more evidence of climate change?

Re: AFL Rd 5 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #106 –
Quote from: kruddler on
Sure, its not great and will be harshly judged, but do we actually have anyone that could catch him?
Couldnt catch Berry, Nankervis, Soligo either....

Re: AFL Rd 5 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #107 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Couldnt catch Berry, Nankervis, Soligo either....
And what, they didn't know these blokes are pacy? They didn't know Keays was going to kick 3 or 4? They didn't know Walker knows a thing or two about playing FF and kicking straight? Shame on them because I'm a dumb ass and I knew all the above.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 5 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #108 –
Quote from: DJC on
I have thought a lot about the game and, apart from inaccurate kicking for goal, I can’t really explain how we lost. 

We dropped way too many marks plus our delivery into the forwardline was particularly poor.
"The Other Teams Can Rot In Hell"

Re: AFL Rd 5 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #109 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
And what, they didn't know these blokes are pacy? They didn't know Keays was going to kick 3 or 4? They didn't know Walker knows a thing or two about playing FF and kicking straight? Shame on them because I'm a dumb ass and I knew all the above.
Those in charge were probably counting on us being a better overall team with more football talent and hoping that got the job done.We have often had DeJa Vu defeats over the years where the same opposition players do the same things and we dont seem to change what we do and the results are the same. Losing Cerra, Saad and Mcgovern probably left us with less pace and you only have to be a little bit off in todays game and you can get knocked over by most decent teams.
Walker is a hard matchup given he is mobile, strongly built and needed a bit of double teaming imho...JW is the best in the business so you just have to tip your hat to Walker.
On the other hand Ben Keays is a handy midfielder at best and letting him kick 3-4 goals again was a serious screwup.
Keays is neither quick, a great overhead mark or brilliant kick but seemed to get on the end of forward entries close to goal and often be on his own in the process. One for the Video review crew to check out and find those responsible as who ever had him as an opponent didnt do much homework or didnt carry out instructions properly.

Re: AFL Rd 5 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #110 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
And what, they didn't know these blokes are pacy? They didn't know Keays was going to kick 3 or 4? They didn't know Walker knows a thing or two about playing FF and kicking straight? Shame on them because I'm a dumb ass and I knew all the above.

It wasn't just pace. There was one where Newman stopped running after his man thinking the ball was going out but it didn't and his man ended up setting up a goal.

We lost a bit of focus and didn't respect them as much as we should.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: AFL Rd 5 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #111 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
It wasn't just pace. There was one where Newman stopped running after his man thinking the ball was going out but it didn't and his man ended up setting up a goal.

We lost a bit of focus and didn't respect them as much as we should.

Yep, saw that, he just plain gave up the chase.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time
 

Re: AFL Rd 5 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #112 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Yep, saw that, he just plain gave up the chase.

Weitering gave up on Walker 3-4 times and allowed him to take uncontested marks.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 5 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #113 –
Quote from: DJC on
Weitering gave up on Walker 3-4 times and allowed him to take uncontested marks.
I was rather surprised (disappointed) by the distance between Weitering and Walker a number of times - very unlike him. First time in a long while (that I remember) that he was badly beaten.

Re: AFL Rd 5 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #114 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
And what, they didn't know these blokes are pacy? They didn't know Keays was going to kick 3 or 4? They didn't know Walker knows a thing or two about playing FF and kicking straight? Shame on them because I'm a dumb ass and I knew all the above.

I agree. Although I don’t think you're a dumb a$$. More of a well informed passionate observer of all things navy blue! 😉
Coming together is the beginning.
Keeping together is progress.
Working together is success.
Henry Ford.

Re: AFL Rd 5 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #115 –
Quote from: LoveNavy on
I agree. Although I don’t think you're a dumb a$$. More of a well informed passionate observer of all things navy blue! 😉
Too kind LN, compared to coaches and experts I'm a dumb ass, but I would have planned and would have put in a truckload of work into ensuring Keays and Walker had minimal impact.
Watching the replay, gee we dropped a lot of marks. And we had our chances to to either hold onto to the 16 pt lead or seal it when they came back. Owies stubs a toe, Charlie drops a marks, Zac W dropped spilled the ball which resulted in Mudguts (dead set Fogarty is fatter than me) picking it up and drilling a pass to the top of the square, Adelaide goal.
As Vossy said, we have got a lot right in the dyeing minutes if the first 4 weeks, we farked up the last few minutes this week. C'est la vie.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Rd 5 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #116 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Too kind LN, compared to coaches and experts I'm a dumb ass, but I would have planned and would have put in a truckload of work into ensuring Keays and Walker had minimal impact.
Watching the replay, gee we dropped a lot of marks. And we had our chances to to either hold onto to the 16 pt lead or seal it when they came back. Owies stubs a toe, Charlie drops a marks, Zac W dropped spilled the ball which resulted in Mudguts (dead set Fogarty is fatter than me) picking it up and drilling a pass to the top of the square, Adelaide goal.
As Vossy said, we have got a lot right in the dyeing minutes if the first 4 weeks, we farked up the last few minutes this week. C'est la vie.

That’s it in a nutshell.
If you drop marks, miss targets and fumble, any coach or game plan will struggle to get you over the line.
It’s certainly not panic stations it’s a learning opportunity.
Let’s go BIG !

Re: AFL Rd 5 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #117 –
I just watched the footage of Crouch cleaning up Carroll.  Crouch’s attack on the footy was perfect with his body turned to protect his head while gathering the ball.  Carroll, on the other hand, led with his head and was always going to get collected.

The free was there but there is an argument that Carroll ducked into it.

Bot should study that footage and learn how to protect himself in that situation.
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: AFL Rd 5 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #118 –
Quote from: DJC on
I just watched the footage of Crouch cleaning up Carroll.  Crouch’s attack on the footy was perfect with his body turned to protect his head while gathering the ball.  Carroll, on the other hand, led with his head and was always going to get collected.

The free was there but there is an argument that Carroll ducked into it.

Bot should study that footage and learn how to protect himself in that situation.

It wasn't even a free kick.

Re: AFL Rd 5 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Adelaide

Reply #119 –
We have to condition ourselves to there being less contact in the sport. Crouch didn't have to do that.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!