https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/womens-afl/aflw-trade-news-2021-afl-womens-trade-wrap-contracts-tayla-harris-darcy-vescio-chloe-molloy-olivia-purcell-news/news-story/625aee24f569218b34d3fc9e00ae152f
GWS on-baller Jess Dal Pos received interest from Geelong but is more likely to end up at Carlton. Her reasons for leaving the Giants are more to do with the fact she’s about to finish at paramedics course than anything football related.
Yes please.
Blues forward Vescio was courted by St Kilda and Geelong but has agreed to terms on a deal that will keep her at Ikon Park for another two years, her agent Alex Saundry confirmed to Foxfooty.com.au on Thursday.
Thank f*** for that!
The same applies to Jess Hosking and Carlton, who are both keen to remain together but are yet to come to a financial agreement.
This will get worked out soon enough.
Carlton’s Tayla Harris looms as the big news story of the trade period. The Blues won’t say it publicly, but they would entertain offers from other clubs for the 24-year-old. It’s understood Harris would prefer to stay at Carlton but there is little doubt the relationship between her and the club has deteriorated after Foxfooty.com.au revealed she left training early to post an Instagram photo one night.
Sources say it’s not irreconcilable, but will take some serious work for Harris to remain at Ikon Park in 2022.
Either get to work signing her, or get to work trying to pry out the biggest fish you can find from another club ASAP.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E10Ixx4UYAE8G7c?format=jpg&name=medium)
Still looks like Jess Dal Pos will come to us from GWS.
Loynes will get another gig at GWS.
Downie a potential option for the pies.
No word on Edwards yet, and TBH i'm not expecting anything.
Still looks like Jess Dal Pos will come to us from GWS.
Loynes will get another gig at GWS.
Downie a potential option for the pies.
No word on Edwards yet, and TBH i'm not expecting anything.
I am surprised that Downie and Loynes are wanting to go around again, but ...
I am surprised that Downie and Loynes are wanting to go around again, but ...
They were both in good form and are durable athletes. Why not give it another crack?
They were both in good form and are durable athletes. Why not give it another crack?
Good form is questionable.
They were definitely down on previous years output and both had shockers early on....did play better at the tail end but the time was definitely right for them to go....well....not be offered contracts.
So the trade period opened at midday today, with not much happening.
I heard an interesting thought at the weekend, maybe we are leaving Tayla hanging to see what shakes loose, a bit like staying quiet on Cripps contract to see who opposition offered up!
So the trade period opened at midday today, with not much happening.
I heard an interesting thought at the weekend, maybe we are leaving Tayla hanging to see what shakes loose, a bit like staying quiet on Cripps contract to see who opposition offered up!
I doubt it.
Tayla appears to have burned her bridges.
The options appear to be that
1. Another club ponies up the money she wants (keep in mind that 9 clubs have already said they are out, leaving only 4 left)
2. She sits out the year.
....
3. She comes crawling back tail between her legs.
My money is on #2.....then #1.......then daylight before #3.
My money is on #2.....then #1.......then daylight before #3.
I've heard two other clubs are now out as of today.
A friend's son was a AFL recruiting / list manager before COVID, but was made redundant and returned to teaching. However, he now runs a women's comp for the local league and is getting side gigs from AFL clubs asking for reports of potential AFLW recruits. His old man told me they think it's highly likely Tayla will re-join the competition, either now or later, on less than she was getting before. For two reasons, her manager has done her no favours, and secondly post COVID the club's just don't have the money to throw about!
I like Tayla. I think she has been good for Carlton and good for the AFLW. My initial thoughts about this whole saga were more benevolent, but as time has gone on, I can't help but feel that Tayla's position in this space is a misstep.
Fans, marketers and sponsors have short memories and can be very fickle. If she sits out the next 12 months to focus on boxing, she may find her AFLW marketability to be significantly diminished or gone altogether when she returns. There may be a new Tayla, she may get injured in boxing etc.
I've heard two other clubs are now out as of today.
A friend's son was a AFL recruiting / list manager before COVID, but was made redundant and returned to teaching. However, he now runs a women's comp for the local league and is getting side gigs from AFL clubs asking for reports of potential AFLW recruits. His old man told me they think it's highly likely Tayla will re-join the competition, either now or later, on less than she was getting before. For two reasons, her manager has done her no favours, and secondly post COVID the club's just don't have the money to throw about!
2 other clubs are out as of today? Which clubs??
9 clubs had ALREADY ruled out chasing Tayla. There was only the following 4 clubs left....
St. Kilda
Melbourne
West Coast
GWS
So which ones did you hear?
I like Tayla. I think she has been good for Carlton and good for the AFLW. My initial thoughts about this whole saga were more benevolent, but as time has gone on, I can't help but feel that Tayla's position in this space is a misstep.
Fans, marketers and sponsors have short memories and can be very fickle. If she sits out the next 12 months to focus on boxing, she may find her AFLW marketability to be significantly diminished or gone altogether when she returns. There may be a new Tayla, she may get injured in boxing etc.
I agree but she will do more for the wage parity argument and the overall competition by "falling on her sword" so to speak.
In the scheme of things, she really is asking for what appears to be fair value for a premier player in that competition.
Where it falls over, is that she is asking for Buddy type money for not buddy like performance on game day.
Contrast this with Cripps. He was and should likely receive a Mozza for the type of player he is capable of being, but look what just 1 season of so-so form has done to him. Last season he wasnt great, but he was still up there in terms of the games best mids. This season the wheels have fallen off thus far, limiting his contract price.
2 other clubs are out as of today? Which clubs??
9 clubs had ALREADY ruled out chasing Tayla. There was only the following 4 clubs left....
St. Kilda
Melbourne
West Coast
GWS
So which ones did you hear?
I'd heard GWS and West Coast were already out, and the Dockers ruled themselves out formerly today, but this afternoon there are rumours the Crows want back in if the price is right! Apparently that leaves 10 out with 3 clubs (one the Crows, I presume Melb and Aints are the others) plus Carlton remaining.
Either way, it sounds like she'll have to settle to keep playing in AFLW, so her manager has done wrong by her she needs a new one!
I'd heard GWS and West Coast were already out, and the Dockers ruled themselves out formerly today, but this afternoon there are rumours the Crows want back in if the price is right! Apparently that leaves 10 out with 3 clubs (one the Crows, I presume Melb and Aints are the others) plus Carlton remaining.
Either way, it sounds like she'll have to settle to keep playing in AFLW, so her manager has done wrong by her she needs a new one!
There was talk that Freo were out today, but that was reported last week.
Carlton are pretty much out of the running too.
There is more chance of Harris not being in the AFLW next year, than being in a Blues jumper.
There was talk that Freo were out today, but that was reported last week.
Carlton are pretty much out of the running too.
There is more chance of Harris not being in the AFLW next year, than being in a Blues jumper.
Tell her to sack her manager and come back to the fold, it's the face saving way out of this mess!
Tell her to sack her manager and come back to the fold, it's the face saving way out of this mess!
Thats if the club want her back.
Thats if the club want her back.
Yes I get that.
It's a pity because I like her style of footy, but it seems the AFLW do not, and as we have debated I don't like it that much that I'd pay that price!
It probably is a sign of the AFLW evolving from something that wasn't much more than a bunch of girls wanting to play men's footy, into a game and sport of it's own! It's probably a good thing, and the @PaulP comment about changing times might be very prudent if Tayla sits out!
Yes I get that.
It's a pity because I like her style of footy, but it seems the AFLW do not, and as we have debated I don't like it that much that I'd pay that price!
It probably is a sign of the AFLW evolving from something that wasn't much more than a bunch of girls wanting to play men's footy, into a game and sport of it's own! It's probably a good thing, and the @PaulP comment about changing times might be very prudent if Tayla sits out!
Read......they don't want her back. ;)
Its got nothing to do with the way Tayla plays.....she is unique, we just don't use her to her talents....or she doesn't display her talents often enough....or we don't want to lose a game we have based around her if she decides she doesn't want to turn up that day.
We couldn't 'flick the switch' with Tayla and i think we are tired with the 'extra' that comes with Tayla.
Worst part about this whole situation is, she'll walk....and we'll get nothing for her.
First trade has gone through.
Sabrina Frederick is off to her 3rd club - Collingwood.
Tigers getting Shevlin, also at her 3rd club going back the other way.
Pies (pick 16 + pick 48) + Shevlin -> Tigers
Tigers (pick 26 + pick pick 55 + Sabrina Frederick -> Pies
Very quiet trade period so far. One trade completed.
2 trades.
Tigers have got backup ruck Poppy Kelly from saints for pick 48.
Poppy couldn't get a game behind former blue and saints co-captain rhi watt in the ruck
Bad news....
Chloe Dalton is exploring options up north so she is closer to her 'second sport'
https://womens.afl/news/72616/is-another-blue-on-the-move-the-deals-yet-to-be-done
CARLTON midfielder and dual-sport athlete Chloe Dalton is exploring her options beyond the Blues.
The rugby sevens star – who is currently working towards the Olympic Games in Tokyo – has been linked to both GWS and Gold Coast, moves to states which would allow her to combine her two sports more easily.
Bad news....
1000x worse than Tayla, this kid makes a difference
Indeed. It would hurt us a lot, as Chloe has been an excellent player for us who puts in every week. We missed her badly this year.
The only silver lining is that whoever got her would have to pay big in draft picks.
It is looking less and less likely that our 2022 campaign is going to challenge for a flag. The restrictions on our picks due to the priority picks is bad enough, but to lose two of our most important players in their prime as well as Downie and Loynes would be a terrible blow. And the carnage of the expansion clubs stealing players hasn't even started yet.
Indeed. It would hurt us a lot, as Chloe has been an excellent player for us who puts in every week. We missed her badly this year.
The only silver lining is that whoever got her would have to pay big in draft picks.
It is looking less and less likely that our 2022 campaign is going to challenge for a flag. The restrictions on our picks due to the priority picks is bad enough, but to lose two of our most important players in their prime as well as Downie and Loynes would be a terrible blow. And the carnage of the expansion clubs stealing players hasn't even started yet.
I'm not sure if it will be a straight swap or not, but Dalton to GWS and Del Pos back to us looks likely.
It was going to be Loynes instead of Del Pos, but Loynes can get there for free because we delisted her.
I really hope Tayla to Melbourne goes through even though they don't have much to offer in the way of picks (they will send their first pick to geelong for Purcell), at least that way we can get 'something' back for Tayla.
If she is forced to sit out, she will go to an expansion club next year for nothing.
With a bit of luck, we can get a couple of extra picks for Tayla and maybe upgrade one for Loynes/Dalton trade for Del Pos.
Apparently we have agreed to terms for the trade of Harris to the Dees.
Nothing official yet, but trade period ends Wed @2pm, so we'll know soon enough.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/cats-to-pounce-on-dees-defender-as-harris-trade-heats-up-20210607-p57yx3.html
Losing Harris and Dalton is a blow. We really missed Dalton this year, and I liked what Dalton and Walker added.
Don't know much about Del Pos but hope she brings speed and de.
To be honest, I'm not sure what Melbourne can give us that will make up for Harris. Harris is potentially the best forward going around.
I'd take Eden Zanker, as she is a player of similar quality, but I really doubt that Melbourne would give her up.
Not sure what they have to offer at all, considering their 1st pick is probably going to go to Geelong.
We are being seriously screwed here!
To be honest, I'm not sure what Melbourne can give us that will make up for Harris. Harris is potentially the best forward going around.
I'd take Eden Zanker, as she is a player of similar quality, but I really doubt that Melbourne would give her up.
Not sure what they have to offer at all, considering their 1st pick is probably going to go to Geelong.
We are being seriously screwed here!
It'll come down to dollars, how much they have offered Tayla and what the Demons have to do to stay inside the cap.
From the club site
As part of the deal, the Blues also receive three draft picks inside the top 20 of the Victorian pool – No.6, No.16 and No.19 (National picks 10, 27 and 32 respectively) – in addition to the Victorian picks No.8 and No.17 the Club already held.
With the Blues welcoming Dal Pos and now holding five picks inside the top 20 of the Victorian pool, the trade also saw Tayla Harris join Melbourne along with the Blues’ National pick No.44, while the Giants acquired inaugural Game Changer Katie Loynes and Chloe Dalton, who has made the decision to remain home in Sydney, where she had returned last year to pursue her Olympic dream
I think that means:
In - pick 10, 27, 36, 27yo Dal Pos
Out - pick 44, Harris, Dalton, Loynes
🤔
Harris going will hurt our membership/sponsorship.
Dalton going will hurt our on-field performance......or at least not let it improve as we didn't have her all year this year.
Just as an aside, going through the girls BTG podcast and looking at who has been on it...some multiple times...there are very few players who have never made an appearance. Tayla Harris was one of them. Georgia Gee is another one.....and then some of the newer no-name girls. Given there were reports of Harris not being one of the girls seems to be very little evidence suggesting otherwise.
I think Harris going might also increase team unity.
Interesting that we still got something back for Loynes after we delisted her 🤔
Chloe Dalton is a big loss but I think we did quite well with that trade ... provided we use the picks wisely and history suggests that we will.
I still think we got screwed.
We mad the best of a very bad situation, but the immediate impact looks dire.
I have read elsewhere that this year's draft cohort does not appear to be as strong as the last couple, not so much in top end talent, but in depth. That makes me fear for our 'gain', which is picks.
I do not know this cohort well: I haven't paid as much attention to it as I have with the guys. However, I cannot see see us getting all of things we need:
[1] A young ruck.
[2] A tall key defender
[3] A marking forward that we can kick long towards.
[4] The shattering speed that Chloe Dalton gave us in the midfield.
I find it interesting that we've parted with 3 captains now including our inaugural captain (who I think has a premiership to her name).
I understand Dalton's situation across codes, and the impasse of Harris's contract. I can't quite work out what Melbourne gave up for her.
As for the pick shuffling we're engaged in, it has the look of a rebuild. We need to add ruck, speed, leadership, and a key forward to the list. Can't imagine we'll get that from one watered down draft.
I've enjoyed watching our progress, although found this year to be well below expectations. 🤔 where have I heard that before?
Just read Jess Hosking traded to Richmond, that's bad.
https://womens.afl/news/72717
I think its the start of a new era at the blues now.
Jess Hosking out was a complete shock. Perhaps she saw the writing on the wall with the introduction of Dal Pos.
Harris out will not be easy to replace. I'd use our first pick in the draft on the best key forward.
Dalton out will be hard to replace. I'd use our second pick on the fastest player going around who can kick.
Downie out we all knew about. I'd use our 3rd pick on a young ruck.
Loynes out we all knew about. Mimi Hill and Abbie McKays form cover for her.
We did a whole lot of pick swapping today....and i'm not sure what the washup of it all is and if we would've done it had we have known about Jess Hosking leaving.
I reckon we have a few players lined up who have been delisted elsewhere or cross coders or something. We seemed to ditch more picks than we wanted.
Just read Jess Hosking traded to Richmond, that's bad.
https://womens.afl/news/72717
I know about 5 faces from our womens team, and the hosking twins were better for our womens team than anyone else. Not necessarily as players or performers, but their social media presence was way better than most. Dissapointed to see them both gone.
Just read Jess Hosking traded to Richmond, that's bad.
https://womens.afl/news/72717
A last minute announcement is very disappointing. Jess was one of our strong pressure players who ran both ways. Along with Downie, Loynes, Dalton, and Harris she will be hard to replace.
I hope our recruiting staff have a strong plan for the picks we've amassed.
2 years ago we started a podcast for the girls. It was called Behind The Gamechangers. It was to give insight into the girls and have a bit of fun. It was hosted by Sarah Hosking.
She left.....but what to do with the podcast?
Enter Jess Hosking. She teamed up with Brooke Walker to be 'the walkings' duo. Also, Vescio and O'Dea teamed up as co-hosts.
BTG would have an interview every week, and the duos would alternate weeks.
Now Jess is gone.....and she was the best one.
Its a poisoned chalice.
Behind the gamechangers.......we are all a bunch of traitors!
It appears our off-field leaders think the chance for a flag in the next year or two is gone.
To be honest, I agree with them.
Out-trading is the only way to get decent draft picks at the moment, with the large number of priority picks this year, and the new teams coming in next year.
If we could actually get the sort of picks the girls who were traded were worth, I might be happy. But seeing Jess traded to Richmond for what we got ... so disappointing. :( :( >:(
I can't see us being competitive in 2022. We've lost too much, and whoever we do get is going to be an untried kid for at least a couple of years. We've been one of the younger clubs for a while, but this now our average age will be lucky to be in the teens!
It appears our off-field leaders think the chance for a flag in the next year or two is gone.
To be honest, I agree with them.
Out-trading is the only way to get decent draft picks at the moment, with the large number of priority picks this year, and the new teams coming in next year.
If we could actually get the sort of picks the girls who were traded were worth, I might be happy. But seeing Jess traded to Richmond for what we got ... so disappointing. :( :( >:(
I can't see us being competitive in 2022. We've lost too much, and whoever we do get is going to be an untried kid for at least a couple of years. We've been one of the younger clubs for a while, but this now our average age will be lucky to be in the teens!
Firstly, if players are not interested, or want out, then see ya later. That includes Harris and the Hoskings.
Secondly, being one of the younger teams is an advantage. Why? Because it means more of your players have played football from start to finish. All of the older girls are footy converts or had to stop playing during their teen years.
There will come a time when the newer brigade will be replacing older girls who played football through their teen years, but its not yet....maybe another 5 years.
Until then, teens in is better for your overall talent base.
Look, i loved Jess as much as the next bloke, but she was a battler....a very solid battler, but a battler.
If we get someone in like Mimi Hill with the pick we got, thats a win.
We have the best young mid in the game with Prespakis.
We have dual 'coleman' medal winner Vescio up forward.
We have one of the more solid defending group in the league.
We have one of the best rucks in the game.
Its not all doom and gloom.
Chloe Dalton is on the wireless and Vitrioli just had a crack at her for leaving Carlton. Chloe seemed genuinely disappointed not to be coming back to Princes Park. I think that her decision to seek a trade to GWS was more head than heart.
I just read the Jess Hosking departure article on the club website. It seems that she was a required player until she asked about a clearance. 100% commitment or you’re gorn!
This trade period: Carlton the biggest loser 😃
Draft night - Coverage starts at 645pm.
https://womens.afl/news/73288
It's on. Georgie Prespakis is off to Geelong. Hopefully we can snaffle her for next year.
Like the men, they are taking a lot of time between picks.
It's on. Georgie Prespakis is off to Geelong. Hopefully we can snaffle her for next year.
Like the men, they are taking a lot of time between picks.
Hopefully we can lure Georgie from Geelong, and not the other way around!
Hopefully we can lure Georgie from Geelong, and not the other way around!
I don't think Geelong can offer what we can. We're a lot closer to home for the Prespakis family. I can't see Maddy going down the highway.
I don't think Geelong can offer what we can. We're a lot closer to home for the Prespakis family. I can't see Maddy going down the highway.
I don't think so either.
But i've watched 2 hosking leave to the underperforming Tigers....so who knows.
Annie Lee, a defender, for our first pick.
Pick 10 - Carlton - Annie Lee
Good kicking Defender
Keeley Sherar - a midfielder
Pick 11 - Carlton - Keely Sharar
Midfielder.
Based on the highlights....seems an average kick (or at least a very poor technique.
We need some midfield help....just not sure she's the one i'd pick based on that.
Pick 11 - Carlton - Keely Sharar
Midfielder.
Based on the highlights....seems an average kick (or at least a very poor technique.
We need some midfield help....just not sure she's the one i'd pick based on that.
The highlights don't overly impress me either. That kicking style is ugly. Too much like a our seniors.
The highlights don't overly impress me either. That kicking style is ugly. Too much like a our seniors.
Looks like she's been studying Levi......and doing a poor effort at that! :-*
Looks like she's been studying Levi......and doing a poor effort at that! :-*
That sounds disastrous, to be honest. Hopefully when we see her in the flesh, she'd have done some work on it. We can't afford another Levi when it comes to kicking.
Next picks - 23 and 26.
2 more Vic picks before our #23....
Draft prediction had has taking this girl at 10.
TARA SLENDER
Pos Forward
Ht 175cm, DOB 11/3/03
From Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
Slender is a lead-up forward who's not afraid to push up the ground to find the footy or crash a pack to bring the ball to ground. A member of the NAB AFLW Academy, Slender is clean below her knees with good pace to burn off her direct opponent. Reads the play really well, but consistency can occasionally be an issue for the young forward.
Hopefully she last the next 2 Vic picks, because we need a new forward!
Next picks - 23 and 26.
2 more Vic picks before our #23....
Draft prediction had has taking this girl at 10.
Hopefully she last the next 2 Vic picks, because we need a new forward!
That we do. Ruck & Key forward I thought were our top needs.
ROUND ONE
1. Gold Coast - Charlie Rowbottom - Oakleigh Chargers
2. Geelong - Georgie Prespakis - Calder Cannons
3. West Coast - Charlotte Thomas - Subiaco
4. St Kilda - Ella Friend - Greater Western Victoria Rebels
5. Richmond - Stella Reid - Oakleigh Chargers
6. Gold Coast - Teagan Levi - Bond University
7. Geelong - Zali Friswell - Calder Cannons
8. Gold Coast - Ashanti Bush - Hawthorn
9. Geelong - Gabbi Featherston - Geelong Falcons
10. Carlton - Annie Lee - Geelong Falcons
11. Carlton - Keeley Sherar - Eastern Ranges
12. St Kilda - Ashleigh Richards - Dandenong Stingrays
13. North Melbourne - Tess Craven - Geelong Falcons
14. Fremantle - Amy Franklin - Claremont
15. Geelong - Annabel Johnson - Geelong Cats
16. Richmond - Emilia Yassir - Calder Cannons
17. Adelaide - Zoe Prowse - Sturt
18. Brisbane - Maggie Harmer - Maroochydore
Sorry, Krudd, Tara is off to North. :'(
Boooo....
Kangas take Slender with the next vic pick.
Not sure whats left, but i think we've f***ed up.
Take the talls first!
Then get the mids next....especially the dodgy kicking action ones ::)
Dogs take Amanda Ling.
She was getting a bit of late press on being a bolter....and looks the goods.
Brooke Vickers - a defender.
Take the talls first!
Then get the mids next....especially the dodgy kicking action ones ::)
Doesn't appear it be the way we are thinking, but it sticks out to me.
Imogen Milford ; 180 cm tall forward. Leads! Amazing.
Pick 23 - Brooke Vickers.
Another defender....another player with a dodgy kicking action.
We are screwed next season.
We have a solid backline already, with a dodgy kicker (Wilson) in there, as well as solid rebounders (Harrington, Laloifi, Pound) and we recruit 2 more when we don't have a forwardline.
Pick 26 - Imogen Milford
We got our forward....and a mature ager....who can slot right in it seems. Phew.
Only got pick 40 left to fill out our list which we may or may not use.
Tegan Cuningham could be a smokie for us IMO. She got 'retired' at the Dees because Harris was an in. Could do worse.
...although we need a ruck! Could she fill in?
Unless the new girls can made a significant difference, we're going to struggle in 2022. I can't see us improving enough with the talent we've lost. Such is life.
Unless the new girls can made a significant difference, we're going to struggle in 2022. I can't see us improving enough with the talent we've lost. Such is life.
We need Dal Pos to be recruit of the year, and Darcy Vescio to be FF from day 1 to even have a hope.
Would like Mimi Hill to be fit for R1 too which is unlikely, but possible.
I get a tad frustrated with the gerrymander in the AFLW. Adelaide have another easy time with exclusive access to two strong competitions, while the rest of us have to trawl through things with so much more competition. No use complaining, I guess, because I can't change it, but it is absolutely ridiculous. How a team could be allowed such an advantage... >:D >:D >:D >:( >:(
I get a tad frustrated with the gerrymander in the AFLW. Adelaide have another easy time with exclusive access to two strong competitions, while the rest of us have to trawl through things with so much more competition. No use complaining, I guess, because I can't change it, but it is absolutely ridiculous. How a team could be allowed such an advantage... >:D >:D >:D >:( >:(
Yep. Its a bit frustrating, but unless we pay the girls more, this is what we have to do.
With Adelaide, we need Port Adelaide in there to take some players off them.
You can't use the 'go-home factor' to steal players off them either because they are all locals to begin with!
Fingers crossed Charlie Rowbottom gets home sick and wants to get out of Gold Coast, would love to snaffle her.
Otherwise, we just pray we can convince Georgie Prespakis to get rid of some of that white on her jumper.
AFLW will continue to be dominated by interstate sides until something changes.
Round 2:
19. North Melbourne - Tara Slender - Bendigo Pioneers
20. Adelaide - Brooke Tonon - Glenelg
21. West Coast - Courtney Rowley - Peel Thunder
22. Western Bulldogs - Amanda Ling - Oakleigh Chargers
23. Carlton - Brooke Vickers - Oakleigh Chargers
24. West Coast - Beth Schilling - Peel Thunder
25. Western Bulldogs - Aurora Smith - Murray Bushrangers
26. Carlton - Imogen Milford - Casey Demons
27. Western Bulldogs - Elizabeth Snell - Bendigo Pioneers
28. North Melbourne - Kimberley Rennie - N/A
29. Collingwood - Eliza James - Oakleigh Chargers
30. Gold Coast - Giselle Davies - Bond University
31. Fremantle - Dana East - Swan Districts
32. Collingwood - Eloise Chaston - Eastern Ranges
33. Collingwood - Imogen Barnett - Collingwood
34. Adelaide - Abbie Ballard - West Adelaide
35. Brisbane - Bella Smith - Maroochydore
FWIW, Our pick 26 was Imogen Milford, the tall forward (179) and is currently 21, (22 in december).
We pass with our last pick.
We have passed with our last pick.
The way we traded picks, i pointed out it was very unlikely we were ever going to use it. It made no sense.
However, the way we've done things, 'making no sense' is relatively common.
Thankfully, we used logic in this instance.
THis should allow us to take one of the best players who went undrafted (even interstaters if they are keen) and gives us more time to work through who is available.
Still think we should look at Cuningham for a year.
We have passed with our last pick.
The way we traded picks, i pointed out it was very unlikely we were ever going to use it. It made no sense.
However, the way we've done things, 'making no sense' is relatively common.
Thankfully, we used logic in this instance.
THis should allow us to take one of the best players who went undrafted (even interstaters if they are keen) and gives us more time to work through who is available.
Still think we should look at Cuningham for a year.
Not having anywhere your knowledge on the gals, Mr K., how do you think we went re the four young women we chose?
Not having anywhere your knowledge on the gals, Mr K., how do you think we went re the four young women we chose?
Full disclosure, I don't know much about the girls apart from what I've read and highlights ive seen.
Having said that, I know what an aflw player looks like and how they compare. The way they run, handle the ball, kick and all that.
I also know what type of players we need.
Best I can tell, the 2 don't line up.
We have had at least 2 AA defenders and another couple that would be pretty close. We also have another handful of girls who can cover for injuries. We do not need any more defenders. We recruited 2.
Now maybe Annie Lee is the best defender and/or best player available at our first pick.....fair enough. Some you can't pass on.
But why take another.....especially one wh can't kick?
So maybe we move one of our new defenders to the midfield....but why not recruit pure midfielders?? Some who don't have a horrible kicking action. These girls look adequate for the first season of aflw....but we are so far advanced of that now that they don't look up to scratch. They must have some elite ability I havnt seen yet because otherwise I don't get it.
I like Imogen Milford.
Fills a need. Might lack consistency, but with a bit of luck she can slot straight into the side. Doesn't have to be the main target, leave that to Vescio and Stevens. Harris replacement.
Personally I wouldve liked 3 mids, 1 forward and a ruck
We got 2 defenders, 1 mid and a forward.....with 1 spot still available.
Id give them a 4 out of 10 for our draft haul.
I think the media gave us 2.5 out of 10 for our trade period.
Full disclosure, I don't know much about the girls apart from what I've read and highlights ive seen.
Having said that, I know what an aflw player looks like and how they compare. The way they run, handle the ball, kick and all that.
I also know what type of players we need.
Best I can tell, the 2 don't line up.
We have had at least 2 AA defenders and another couple that would be pretty close. We also have another handful of girls who can cover for injuries. We do not need any more defenders. We recruited 2.
Now maybe Annie Lee is the best defender and/or best player available at our first pick.....fair enough. Some you can't pass on.
But why take another.....especially one wh can't kick?
So maybe we move one of our new defenders to the midfield....but why not recruit pure midfielders?? Some who don't have a horrible kicking action. These girls look adequate for the first season of aflw....but we are so far advanced of that now that they don't look up to scratch. They must have some elite ability I havnt seen yet because otherwise I don't get it.
I like Imogen Milford.
Fills a need. Might lack consistency, but with a bit of luck she can slot straight into the side. Doesn't have to be the main target, leave that to Vescio and Stevens. Harris replacement.
Personally I wouldve liked 3 mids, 1 forward and a ruck
We got 2 defenders, 1 mid and a forward.....with 1 spot still available.
Id give them a 4 out of 10 for our draft haul.
I think the media gave us 2.5 out of 10 for our trade period.
I don't claim any level of expertise or knowledge of the draft pool, albeit I follow the female leagues as best I can but with involvement a Div 3 local ladies team, following the AFLW and VFLW to a lesser extent, trying to catch the elite level youth girls can be a bit of a challenge. That said I will be so bold as to express some personal views which run counter to the above. First I agree wholeheartedly with Krud's views of our needs, indeed Munro's pre draft comments seemed to reflect the same, subject to an overarching "best available" mantra which is fair enough especially early. Accordingly my wish list would have been 3 mids, a tall forward and a ruck preferably capable of at least resting forward. First up we go a classy intercept defender who also uses the ball well out of defence - might not be needs related but can live with that on a best available basis if that is the club's jugment. She is young and gets to learn from the best and eventually take over from them. Fair enough, but not sure if she improves the team for next year. Second we stretch for a brilliantly athletic mid who Krud it appears - and many others - would say has kicking issues. I agree her technique looks crap but in my viewings, and I may have missed her horror days for all I know, she can and does kick the ball well when afforded time and space, it is when she is under pressure that Sherar tends to kick poorly. More a cade of kicking consistency than being a poor kick per se. That can be worked on and if it is eradicated then we have good one. But I get why there are concerns and I acknowledge the inherent big "if". Next Vernon. This is the one where I starkly disagree with Krud. First she is not a defender she is a true utility albeit palying mainly down back but also serious wing time and doing it well. Second I cannot have it that she is a poor kick. Again maybe I missed her bad days but on my viewings to the contrary disposal is one of her strong suits. Munro and the club certainly see it that way. I like the pick. Finally we get our KF and a good pick up in Milford. Still young and improving but with some experience and runs on the board, ready to slot in day 1 and this is a player who may well improve the team from the get go. That is the concern I have with our selections, maybe we are looking more to the future, but who improves the team for 2022?
The other area where I will deign to disgree with Krud is in relation to our passing on the last pick. I understand the point about waiting and seeing who produces what in the rest of the season before commiting to our last choice and probably would generally agree with it if either the cupboard was bare or stocked with options all on much the same level. But let's suppose you decided to go panning for gold and on your way to the river you trip over something half buried on the path. You look to see what tripped you up and low and behold it's a massive gold nugget. Now I ask you, do you leave it there and carry on down to the river?
That gold nugget's name is Talia Gillard and I am a massive fan. Genuinely tall (190cm) ruck that I think could be anything. I'd have taken her at the pointy end of the draft and couldn't believe she was still around when our last pick came up. To have grabbed her would have made our draft to my mind and I am gutted we let her slip to the Dees a couple of picks later. Again, obviously my view of her talents was not shared by anyone with the power to call (except maybe Melbourne who didn't come into the draft until the pick before and for all we know might have rated her atthe pointy end and been delighted she was there). Clearly most of the experts didn't rate her near where I do and maybe they are right. But I'd have broken my neck to grab her.
Anyway, what is is what is and what is not is what is not as Parmenides liked to say and that is where the chips have fallen. I am not dissppointed with our selections bar passing on Gillard but the question remains who makes us better in 2022? And let's face it you need substantial improvement just to keep pace with the overall standard improving let alone to climb the ladder.
Both informative, terrific reads. Tks Mr K, tks IH.
Don't understand why Craven slipped out of the top five
We signed free agent from Sturt in SA today: a ruck who is mates with Kerryn Harrington: Jessica Good
183 cm tall and a little older.
There is our ruck.
Imogen Milford, Paige Trudgeon and Serena Gobbs can fight it out for the marking key forward spot.
The others to replace Chloe Dalton, I guess.
No guarantee that Mimi Hill will be right to play for the season either.
I am a little happier than I was on Draft Night. It does look like we've addressed some of our areas of weakness from the 2021 season. Have we done enough? Have we chosen correctly? Far too early to tell. Our AFLW recruiting has generally been pretty good, but even a good bunch can make disastrous errors.
We signed free agent from Sturt in SA today: a ruck who is mates with Kerryn Harrington: Jessica Good
183 cm tall and a little older.
There is our ruck.
Yes, and going back to what someone was saying earlier, THIS is why you pass in the draft. You can pick up players from other states that you couldn't pick up on draft day.
....and SA is the place to take some talent. Adelaide have had the pick of the bunch for a long time. Time to start stealing some talent.
We signed free agent from Sturt in SA today: a ruck who is mates with Kerryn Harrington: Jessica Good
183 cm tall and a little older.
There is our ruck.
Imogen Milford, Paige Trudgeon and Serena Gobbs can fight it out for the marking key forward spot.
The others to replace Chloe Dalton, I guess.
No guarantee that Mimi Hill will be right to play for the season either.
I am a little happier than I was on Draft Night. It does look like we've addressed some of our areas of weakness from the 2021 season. Have we done enough? Have we chosen correctly? Far too early to tell. Our AFLW recruiting has generally been pretty good, but even a good bunch can make disastrous errors.
Jess is 185cm and 26 years old Crash, and looks to be very strong too. I understand that she played with Adelaide Lightning alongside Kerryn Harrington so an elite sportswoman too.
I reckon that we've done alright with our list changes but time will tell.
https://womens.afl/news/73506
An interesting take on our draft night.
With the understanding of why we took who we took, i'm a little happier than i was the other night. The recruitment of Jess Good also covers one of my biggest issues from that night.
Still have question marks over some kicking techniques, but at least i can see why the players were chosen. Lets see if they live up to those expectations.
Its nice to read that, but are they really going to come out and tell us we missed all our targets but did the best we could? Probably not.
Its nice to read that, but are they really going to come out and tell us we missed all our targets but did the best we could? Probably not.
Why would Riley Beveridge massage the story? He is an AFL media person paid to report things from an AFL perspective. If our draft plans had gone down the gurgler, it would probably be of more interest to the AFL audience.
With the exception of Georgie Prespakis, who was never a realistic chance to slip through to our first pick, we got who we wanted. The question now is whether our talent scouts, coach and list manager are on the money. No excuses if they're not.