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Title: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: crashlander on April 18, 2016, 10:58:33 pm
With Carlton in Perth this weekend, drop down to Preston City Oval at 1400 on Saturday and you get to see the Baby Blue strut their stuff.
Mind you, Port beat us only a couple of weeks back, but I expect the team to be significantly different. Could be a very interesting line-up with the possible return of Walker and maybe more.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: cimm1979 on April 18, 2016, 11:44:23 pm
Will be weakened a bit because of taking extra emergencies to Perth .
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: crashlander on April 20, 2016, 08:07:04 pm
Will be weakened a bit because of taking extra emergencies to Perth .
A reasonable conjecture, as we have NOT played all of our emergencies in the VFL once yet. One or 2 to go West would be almost certain, possibly all 3. However, there will be a few guys back; Silvagni, most probably Walker, also a good chance of Everitt getting up. Wood was NOT mentioned in dispatches as being injured, so must also be highly probable to play.
On the other hand, Foster may well end up in the Development game, as his numbers have not been great and we now have something vaguely like a functional forward line in the VFL.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: BluePhantom on April 20, 2016, 08:11:03 pm
A functional forward line? This is a Carlton team you are talking about here. :o
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: DJC on April 20, 2016, 08:16:09 pm
A reasonable conjecture, as we have NOT played all of our emergencies in the VFL once yet. One or 2 to go West would be almost certain, possibly all 3. However, there will be a few guys back; Silvagni, most probably Walker, also a good chance of Everitt getting up. Wood was NOT mentioned in dispatches as being injured, so must also be highly probable to play.
On the other hand, Foster may well end up in the Development game, as his numbers have not been great and we now have something vaguely like a functional forward line in the VFL.

Isn't Foster playing as a defender?
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: crashlander on April 20, 2016, 08:34:12 pm
A functional forward line? This is a Carlton team you are talking about here. :o
VAGUELY like a functional forward line. More vague than anything else, but with our tall forwards actually kicking goals it cant be TOO bad.
That said, we need more from the small and mid forwards and more scoring from the midfielders (like the good teams actually do). But it appeared to work better than the forward line in seniors has been (not an impossible task by any means).

Foster ended up in defence, but that was because he didn't fit into the forward half and Jamo didn't play. If Jamo actually plays, then Foster at CHB is superfluous.
Of the defenders, White was the most impressive. If he gets promoted, there still isn't really a spot for Foster. He hasn't shown the ability to read the ball to take on a mid sized forward.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: DJC on April 20, 2016, 08:41:34 pm
VAGUELY like a functional forward line. More vague than anything else, but with our tall forwards actually kicking goals it cant be TOO bad.
That said, we need more from the small and mid forwards and more scoring from the midfielders (like the good teams actually do). But it appeared to work better than the forward line in seniors has been (not an impossible task by any means).

Foster ended up in defence, but that was because he didn't fit into the forward half and Jamo didn't play. If Jamo actually plays, then Foster at CHB is superfluous.
Of the defenders, White was the most impressive. If he gets promoted, there still isn't really a spot for Foster. He hasn't shown the ability to read the ball to take on a mid sized forward.

Fraser seems to think he's a defender Crash:

Quote
Foster continues to work hard on areas of his game as a defender and he had a couple of impressive one-on-one contests: now it’s about finding consistency
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: crashlander on April 20, 2016, 08:45:16 pm
I hope he is right. But I can't see it at the moment.
To me, he looks like one of the most probable delistees, come season's end. I thought that Liam Jones had that position firmly in his hands, but he can surprised me hugely. Whether he can continue and actually make the grade as a senior footballer, well, who knows? But I would have bet against it just 3 weeks ago.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 20, 2016, 08:49:35 pm
Foster....gone at years end.....
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: LP on April 21, 2016, 07:28:34 pm
Foster....gone at years end.....

Indubitably, thank-you MM!
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: crashlander on April 21, 2016, 09:08:15 pm
Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Saturday April 23            
Preston City Oval at 2.00pm       

Northern Blues

B: 58. Z Tuohy 27. M Jamison 26. M Dick
HB: 7. D Buckley 11. K McGuinness 43. S White
C: 65. D Viojo 1. T Wilson 76. J Tutt
HF: 49. D Armfield 20. A Everitt 56. A Gallucci
F: 48. K Jaksch 14. L Jones 36. C Wood
R: 15. M Kreuzer 60. D Cuningham 32. N Graham
Int: 24. T Roos 4. S Russell 18. D Gorringe 2. J Silvagni 6. G Strachan 34. J Glass-Mccasker 37. T Jones 67. C Smith 29. B Casley 10. T Totevski 31. J Foster 80. M Korcheck

23P: 23. H Kerbatieh

This side will look very different on the day, but the return of Silvagni and Everitt will open up scoring opportunities (I hope). Probably 2 of the emergencies will go to Perth, maybe all 3. Now way all 3 will play.

Port Melbourne
B: 21. L Cook 31. B Mihocek 12. J Tynan
HB: 5. S Lange 23. H Sandilands 7. S Crocker
C: 27. D Mascitti 10. T Pinwill 3. L Tynan
HF: 29. C Cain 2. K Haretuku 60. D Iaccarino
F: 32. B Pearson 40. S Clarke 8. D Van Unen
R: 36. L Waddell 11. M Golby 4. T O'Sullivan
Int: 1. M Rivett 28. J Scipione 41. R Hogan 17. A Urban 35. G Dickson 44. M Hayes 26. N Dixon 9. B Hogan 

23P: 48. J Halsall

I actually don't know Port's team all that well, but they will probably try to be fairly physical against our kids. A few weeks back they had the extra poise and experience, and we had a very young side playing. Hopefully we can turn that result around.
 
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: crashlander on April 21, 2016, 09:17:21 pm
Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne       
Saturday April 23
Preston City Oval at 11.00am

Northern Blues

B: 22. D Aujla 50. B Jordan 31. J Foster
HB: 54. C McCabe 35. K Declase 4. S Russell
C: 37. T Jones 24. T Roos 67. C Smith
HF: 77. L Hickey 29. B Casley 10. T Totevski
F: 80. M Korcheck 30. S Bolger 57. D O'Leary
R: 73. A Aurrichio 25. A Brown 5. J Cyster
Int: 9. J Corboy 53. H Payne 75. C Le Favi 41. J Cripps 64. L Jacques 16. J Thorpe 21. C Barrett 45. D Stevens 71. J Caruana 39. A Kur 78. M Walson 40. B Droessler 74. B Malual 

Port Melbourne              

B: 13. T Gordon 49. B Gilling 35. G Dickson
HB: 56. D Beddison 68. A Spencer 37. H Hooper
C: 9. B Hogan 25. J Matheson 44. M Hayes
HF: 24. A Mioni 39. K Dove 38. J McKenzie
F: 45. B Connelly 70. S Bevan 34. A Fenton
R: 33. J Smith 17. A Urban 14. D Toman
Int: 47. M Wenn 59. S Bennett 66. N Parthenopoulos 61. S De Soysa 65. P Phillips 40. S Murray 54. J Williams 1. M Rivett 60. D Iaccarino 51. T Huther 42. D Graham 46. M Tang 58. Z Keogh
 
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: flyboy77 on April 22, 2016, 08:38:19 am
Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Saturday April 23            
Preston City Oval at 2.00pm       

Northern Blues

B: 58. Z Tuohy 27. M Jamison 26. M Dick
HB: 7. D Buckley 11. K McGuinness 43. S White
C: 65. D Viojo 1. T Wilson 76. J Tutt
HF: 49. D Armfield 20. A Everitt 56. A Gallucci
F: 48. K Jaksch 14. L Jones 36. C Wood
R: 15. M Kreuzer 60. D Cuningham 32. N Graham
Int: 24. T Roos 4. S Russell 18. D Gorringe 2. J Silvagni 6. G Strachan 34. J Glass-Mccasker 37. T Jones 67. C Smith 29. B Casley 10. T Totevski 31. J Foster 80. M Korcheck

23P: 23. H Kerbatieh

This side will look very different on the day, but the return of Silvagni and Everitt will open up scoring opportunities (I hope). Probably 2 of the emergencies will go to Perth, maybe all 3. Now way all 3 will play.

Port Melbourne
B: 21. L Cook 31. B Mihocek 12. J Tynan
HB: 5. S Lange 23. H Sandilands 7. S Crocker
C: 27. D Mascitti 10. T Pinwill 3. L Tynan
HF: 29. C Cain 2. K Haretuku 60. D Iaccarino
F: 32. B Pearson 40. S Clarke 8. D Van Unen
R: 36. L Waddell 11. M Golby 4. T O'Sullivan
Int: 1. M Rivett 28. J Scipione 41. R Hogan 17. A Urban 35. G Dickson 44. M Hayes 26. N Dixon 9. B Hogan 

23P: 48. J Halsall

I actually don't know Port's team all that well, but they will probably try to be fairly physical against our kids. A few weeks back they had the extra poise and experience, and we had a very young side playing. Hopefully we can turn that result around.

On paper, that's a darn strong VFL level team. Our boys, that is.....
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: PaulP on April 22, 2016, 05:04:51 pm
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-2016-jack-silvagni-to-line-up-for-northern-blues-20160422-gocrzh.html

Good to have young SOS and Everitt back.

And for those who (like me) didn't know, the "T Roos" listed for the NB's is Tyler Roos, son of Paul Roos.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: LygonStreetLimbo on April 23, 2016, 03:55:49 pm
We're well into this game...and no comments? Something for our interstate followers please who couldn't be there.....?
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: pinot on April 23, 2016, 04:00:57 pm
From Twitter

THREE QUARTER TIME: Northern Blues 6.7.43, Port Melbourne 7.11.53.

GOALS: Jaksch 3, Jones, Silvagni, Totevski

3rd qtr stats
Clearances 16-2
I50 16-9
Score 4.2 - 0.2
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: LygonStreetLimbo on April 23, 2016, 04:10:12 pm
The "Jones" is T Jones, right?
Liam did go west?
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: pinot on April 23, 2016, 04:12:05 pm
Kristian Jaksch playing really well by the sounds of it.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: Lods on April 23, 2016, 04:33:54 pm
From Twitter

FULL TIME: Northern Blues 8.8.56, Port Melbourne 10.15.75.
GOALS: Jaksch 3, Silvagni 2, Viojo-Rainbow, Jones, Totevski.




Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: crashlander on April 23, 2016, 05:06:09 pm
DISPOSALS: McGuinness 35, Tutt 34, Armfield 27, Wilson 26, Dick 25, Kerbatieh 25, Jones 24.

Tutt and Armfield really put their names forward to play next week in the seniors.
Kerbatieh didn't do his chances of getting noticed any harm at all.

AFL Victoria Development League
Northern Blues   2.2  5.6  9.8  15.12 (102)
Port Melbourne   0.2  1.4  5.6  6.7 (43)

GOALS:
Northern Blues: Le Favi 2 Casley 2 Jacques 2 Droessler  Malual  Bolger  Cripps  Payne  O'Leary  Cyster  Hickey  Corboy
Port Melbourne: Hogan 2 Williams  Hooper  Smith  Graham

BEST:
Northern Blues: Aurrichio Barrett Roos Cripps Aujla O'Leary
Port Melbourne: Urban Hooper Beddison Gordon Parthenopoulos McKenzie

Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: MosquitoFleet on April 23, 2016, 05:16:45 pm
i hear that jamison was next to useless - kept giving orders to players and was easily pushed off by the forwards

jamo should not play for carlton seniors again
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: crashlander on April 23, 2016, 05:17:16 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgsXMQrUkAILBnw.png)
Alas, no White, no Graham (our 2 travelling emergencies) and no Cunningham.

GOALS: Jaksch 3, Silvagni 2, Viojo-Rainbow, Jones, Totevski.

So far I haven't noticed much said about Everitt, Jamo, Wood, etc.

Tim Jones, on the other hand, must feel pretty good about his first game.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: kruddler on April 23, 2016, 05:17:55 pm
Jaksch next in line to get a gig in our forward line. Kicks goals every week.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: cookie2 on April 23, 2016, 05:25:58 pm
Jaksch next in line to get a gig in our forward line. Kicks goals every week.

He'd have to be in with a strong show next week unless we see a minor miracle occur in the West tomorrow.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: laj on April 23, 2016, 05:56:58 pm
Jaksch next in line to get a gig in our forward line. Kicks goals every week.

He's playing both ends pretty well, should've been in this week.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on April 23, 2016, 06:38:41 pm
Jaksch next in line to get a gig in our forward line. Kicks goals every week.

I think SOS does as well doesn't he?
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: jeza on April 23, 2016, 06:49:59 pm
Still can't quite believe we picked Jones ahead of Jaksch.

Ludicrous.

Bolton's got a bug up his a55 with KJ. Seriously fed up with this mule headed sh1t already.

2 ruckmen just aint working. Mule head.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: jeza on April 23, 2016, 06:50:56 pm
Great to see SOS getting a couple again. Can't wait to see him in the 1s
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: cimm1979 on April 23, 2016, 07:20:39 pm
Great to see SOS getting a couple again. Can't wait to see him in the 1s

Kid might be a bit underdeveloped but sounds like he's the third tall we've been screaming for.

At least you'll know he'll have a go, unlike Everitt .
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 23, 2016, 07:26:44 pm
He's playing both ends pretty well, should've been in this week.

x2...he is the player we should be developing down forward...SOSOS coming along nicely as a 3rd tall forward option..
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: kruddler on April 23, 2016, 07:32:42 pm
I think SOS does as well doesn't he?

I thought SOS has been injured lately.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: crashlander on April 23, 2016, 07:33:32 pm
Kid might be a bit underdeveloped but sounds like he's the third tall we've been screaming for.

At least you'll know he'll have a go, unlike Everitt .
Yes. Silvagni has the brains, the feel for the game and the will.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: bratblue on April 23, 2016, 07:38:28 pm
Yes. Silvagni has the brains, the feel for the game and the will.

Along side the pedigree  ;)
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: crashlander on April 23, 2016, 07:41:13 pm
Official Statistics:
Peter Jackson VFL 2016
Northern Blues   2.4  2.5  6.7  8.8 (56)
Port Melbourne   1.4  7.9  7.11  10.15 (75)

GOALS:
Northern Blues: Jaksch 3 Silvagni 2 Totevski  Viojo  Jones
Port Melbourne: Cook 2 Pinwill  Pearson  Sandilands  Cain  Crocker  Rivett  Scipione  Hogan

BEST:
Northern Blues: Armfield Jones Wilson McGuinness Tutt Kerbatieh
Port Melbourne: Haretuku Mihocek Rivett Pinwill Lange Dixon
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on April 23, 2016, 07:48:35 pm
I thought SOS has been injured lately.

He has but every time he plays he kicks goals. ;D
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: crashlander on April 23, 2016, 07:54:06 pm
He has but every time he plays he kicks goals. ;D
Indeed. So far he has kicked 2 or 3 goals each time he has played at VFL level. I am looking forward to seeing him develop into the sort of player who won't get dropped.

He had 12 possessions, but scored highly on the pressure acts, tackles, etc. (according to the NB's website)
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: laj on April 23, 2016, 08:14:11 pm
I thought SOS has been injured lately.

Yes, had a hammy.

Looks a classy type. Looking forward to his debut at some stage soon.

I'm on to my 3rd generation Silvagni, having seen and remembered most of Serg's career and all of SOS's. Something tells me I'm getting old.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: Bear on April 23, 2016, 08:33:40 pm
Geez, If he could earn a game it would be a massive positive... physically he looks 12 months behind guys like Weitering and Curnow, but the i like that he keeps snagging goals.

Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: townsendcalling on April 23, 2016, 08:55:59 pm
KJ provides no second effort at all. Can take a reasonable grab and has a great boot on him. All the feedback re Jones has been that, as well as kicking goals, his defensive pressure has been a feature. Bolton rewards effort.  KJ would have been told about second efforts and the need to improve....but it has yet to happen.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: Professer E on April 23, 2016, 09:56:42 pm
Haretuku is a big lad and surprised he hasn't been looked at very seriously.  On paper on thought we should have gone well against thus mob.... Alas games aren't played on paper.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on April 23, 2016, 10:03:46 pm
KJ provides no second effort at all. Can take a reasonable grab and has a great boot on him. All the feedback re Jones has been that, as well as kicking goals, his defensive pressure has been a feature. Bolton rewards effort.  KJ would have been told about second efforts and the need to improve....but it has yet to happen.

Have you been attending the games Townsend? Interesting I hadn't heard this about KJ before.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 23, 2016, 10:18:27 pm
Haretuku is a big lad and surprised he hasn't been looked at very seriously.  On paper on thought we should have gone well against thus mob.... Alas games aren't played on paper.

Think the Saints had him as a rookie at one stage.....can look a bit laconic/casual and maybe doesnt come across as desperate to make it as a AFL player....
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: LoveNavy on April 23, 2016, 10:20:11 pm
KJ - tank need developing?
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: Thryleon on April 23, 2016, 10:20:34 pm
Haretuku is a big lad and surprised he hasn't been looked at very seriously.  On paper on thought we should have gone well against thus mob.... Alas games aren't played on paper.

I've often wondered why he doesn't get a gig, particularly in a side crying for a key forward.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: kruddler on April 23, 2016, 10:31:03 pm
KJ - tank need developing?

Based on what i saw on The Journey, his tank is ok when required, he needs to develop his hunger and desire to push himself.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: LoveNavy on April 23, 2016, 10:44:04 pm
Based on what i saw on The Journey, his tank is ok when required, he needs to develop his hunger and desire to push himself.

Hmmm competitiveness lacking... Maybe the somewhat novel competition for spots Bolts has introduced will spark this. What commentary I've heard suggests the coaching staff are giving him plenty of attention. I'd really like to see him take a big step forward this year.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: DJC on April 23, 2016, 11:03:06 pm
i hear that jamison was next to useless - kept giving orders to players and was easily pushed off by the forwards

jamo should not play for carlton seniors again

Where did you hear that Mossie?
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: MosquitoFleet on April 23, 2016, 11:27:06 pm
Where did you hear that Mossie?

From people who were at preston today
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: RiverRat on April 23, 2016, 11:36:53 pm
Have you been attending the games Townsend? Interesting I hadn't heard this about KJ before.

I wrote several weeks ago that KJ only has speed in a straight line and lacks the mobility to change direction; this contributes to him being a hit or miss player with limited ability to give second efforts.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: kruddler on April 23, 2016, 11:48:48 pm
I wrote several weeks ago that KJ only has speed in a straight line and lacks the mobility to change direction; this contributes to him being a hit or miss player with limited ability to give second efforts.

I think he was playing in the backline when you said that. I asked a question of you, which you never responded too, suggesting that with those traits he could be more suited to playing up forward and leading up at the ball.
Given his back to back 3 goals a game, looks like we've found him his spot
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: kruddler on April 23, 2016, 11:50:22 pm
Where did you hear that Mossie?

From the voices in his head.

He is VERY anti-Jamison
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: MosquitoFleet on April 24, 2016, 12:10:36 am
From the voices in his head.

He is VERY anti-Jamison

Jamison was given a 4 yr deal 2 weeks before swan left.
Just part of the problem that sos identified. .highly paid long term contracts of average to poor players
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: townsendcalling on April 24, 2016, 01:05:40 am
Have you been attending the games Townsend? Interesting I hadn't heard this about KJ before.

Yep was there today. 1 KJ goal was Joe the goose, the other 2 from marks. Once the contest was over, so was he.  Jammo struggled. Was out positioned and out marked by VFL players.  Those who want to promote Silvagni need to go and watch a game. He's going to be very good but at the moment he gives 100% chases, tackles and smothers with intent, but struggles in the contest to win the ball and match it with the big bodies.  He just needs time.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: MilkIt on April 24, 2016, 04:16:01 am
Highlights from the game.

http://youtu.be/MNKII1Bm7yU (http://youtu.be/MNKII1Bm7yU)


Love the SOS tackle at the end. He needs to bulk up but I reckon the kid can play ;D
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on April 24, 2016, 06:59:22 am
Yep was there today. 1 KJ goal was Joe the goose, the other 2 from marks. Once the contest was over, so was he.  Jammo struggled. Was out positioned and out marked by VFL players.  Those who want to promote Silvagni need to go and watch a game. He's going to be very good but at the moment he gives 100% chases, tackles and smothers with intent, but struggles in the contest to win the ball and match it with the big bodies.  He just needs time.

Fair enough, that's some good feedback.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on April 24, 2016, 07:07:57 am
I know it's only the highlights but young SOS looks ready to me, how was that smother just like dad! Also a couple of assists and held his ground in that marking contest where he won the free.

Have to say Jaksch looked big and strong.

Was that Vojo-Rainbow dashing down the wing? Looks like a player!
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: shadesy on April 24, 2016, 11:10:28 am
Sos has exceeded my expectations. Thought when would be playing Development league a lot, not kicking goals in the VFL.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: Jeffy38 on April 24, 2016, 11:55:26 am
Sos has exceeded my expectations. Thought when would be playing Development league a lot, not kicking goals in the VFL.

Agreed needs a few more weeks in the Vfl but definitely does not look out of place.

Looks to run hard to create options and will be good on defensive pressure. Needs a shot in the seniors before he gets too tired also
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on April 24, 2016, 12:10:44 pm
Another thing with SOS which I noticed during his TAC Cup games is he is very quick to read the ball off the pack which he also displayed in those highlights. Has all the tools, just needs the body and fitness.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: crazyjoedevolamk11 on April 24, 2016, 12:15:12 pm
SOSOS was clearly the stand out in that highlight package, plenty of tricks and footy nous, don't rush him though...didn't notice much from the other Blues listed players across the package, but KJ did show a bit.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: Jean-Claude on April 24, 2016, 12:24:54 pm
Really impressed with SOS in that clip. Did not expect him to be playing like that in VFL already, just off that clip you would think he would be making his debut later in the year.

Most important thing is he looks a natural forward, FINALLY!

Jaksch also did some nice things, would love to see a forward line of McKay, Jaksch as the two talls and SOS as 3rd tall for a couple games later in the year. Fingers crossed.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: DJC on April 24, 2016, 02:21:26 pm
Yep was there today. 1 KJ goal was Joe the goose, the other 2 from marks. Once the contest was over, so was he.  Jammo struggled. Was out positioned and out marked by VFL players.  Those who want to promote Silvagni need to go and watch a game. He's going to be very good but at the moment he gives 100% chases, tackles and smothers with intent, but struggles in the contest to win the ball and match it with the big bodies.  He just needs time.

It's a good thing sides aren't selected on the basis of highlight packages!

Thanks for your observations.  It seems that we won't be seeing KJ, Jack or Jamo in the firsts in the near future.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: cookie2 on April 24, 2016, 02:24:32 pm
It's a good thing sides aren't selected on the basis of highlight packages!

Thanks for your observations.  It seems that we won't be seeing KJ, Jack or Jamo in the firsts in the near future.

A mate of mine was at Preston on Sat and he texted that KJ was not ready yet for the seniors - in his opinion. Jamo apparently limped off sometime in the 4Q - didn't look too good.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: laj on April 24, 2016, 03:24:32 pm
A mate of mine was at Preston on Sat and he texted that KJ was not ready yet for the seniors - in his opinion. Jamo apparently limped off sometime in the 4Q - didn't look too good.

I saw Jaksch the week before. Happy to get him straight in without hesitation. Can really take a mark and kick a goal,so straight in. Plus he can play both ends. no need to be playing Rowe ahead of him.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: laj on April 24, 2016, 08:12:11 pm
He'd have to be in with a strong show next week unless we see a minor miracle occur in the West tomorrow.

Lol! Nice work!
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: cookie2 on April 24, 2016, 10:06:50 pm
Lol! Nice work!

 :))
Aah! the power of positive thoughts..........
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: jeza on April 24, 2016, 11:01:41 pm
Yep was there today. 1 KJ goal was Joe the goose, the other 2 from marks. Once the contest was over, so was he.  Jammo struggled. Was out positioned and out marked by VFL players.  Those who want to promote Silvagni need to go and watch a game. He's going to be very good but at the moment he gives 100% chases, tackles and smothers with intent, but struggles in the contest to win the ball and match it with the big bodies.  He just needs time.

The Joe the Goose goal was in the video replay and was as a result of team pressure which he was part of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNKII1Bm7yU&feature=youtu.be

I know he's a bit in and out of the game by all reports but seriously how are we leaving a tall young forward showing even a bit of form out of this team.

Got me buggered.

Totally disagree with you on Silvagni. I've seen skinnier players in the AFL - if he's good enough (which I think he is) put him in. Not saying he'll kick 5 and destroy blokes with his tackling but this year is about development.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: townsendcalling on April 24, 2016, 11:37:29 pm
The Joe the Goose goal was in the video replay and was as a result of team pressure which he was part of.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNKII1Bm7yU&feature=youtu.be

I know he's a bit in and out of the game by all reports but seriously how are we leaving a tall young forward showing even a bit of form out of this team.

Got me buggered.

Totally disagree with you on Silvagni. I've seen skinnier players in the AFL - if he's good enough (which I think he is) put him in. Not saying he'll kick 5 and destroy blokes with his tackling but this year is about development.

We agree to disagree.  Get down and have a look at an NB game and possibly you'll have a more informed opinion.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: jeza on April 25, 2016, 12:01:32 am
We agree to disagree.  Get down and have a look at an NB game and possibly you'll have a more informed opinion.

I've seen it so many times before. Guys don't have to kick 30 goals a game at VFL level to be able to step up. Garlett and Yarran could never get a kick at VFL level yet they could pick up their form at AFL level.

You can see KJ is doing more than enough to get selected in our barren wasteland of a forward line.

Silvagni - not saying he has to get picked this week but he's certainly not too small.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: DJC on April 25, 2016, 12:22:14 am
I've seen it so many times before. Guys don't have to kick 30 goals a game at VFL level to be able to step up. Garlett and Yarran could never get a kick at VFL level yet they could pick up their form at AFL level.

You can see KJ is doing more than enough to get selected in our barren wasteland of a forward line.

Silvagni - not saying he has to get picked this week but he's certainly not too small.

The blokes who regularly watch the NBs, the NBs coach and the match committee all think differently.  KJ will have to improve his consistency and second efforts before he comes into consideration for senior selection.

Silvagni will be a player; he has poise and executes well.  However, watching his half game against Essendon in the NAB challenge showed that he is too easily brushed aside in contests.  He will need to develop size and strength and learn to hold his position before he will be considered.  I think he may get a run later in the year but it wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't debut until 2017.

Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: Swan43 on April 25, 2016, 01:30:04 am
What's with his shoulders?
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: DJC on April 25, 2016, 10:22:15 am
What's with his shoulders?

Reconstruction last year.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: cimm1979 on April 25, 2016, 10:25:33 am
I've seen it so many times before. Guys don't have to kick 30 goals a game at VFL level to be able to step up. Garlett and Yarran could never get a kick at VFL level yet they could pick up their form at AFL level.

You can see KJ is doing more than enough to get selected in our barren wasteland of a forward line.

Silvagni - not saying he has to get picked this week but he's certainly not too small.

Maybe go have a look at the magoos rather than making selections off edited highlights.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: crashlander on April 25, 2016, 10:25:58 am
Stats from the game:
(http://i.imgur.com/ggJpuf0.png)
17 possessions to Foster was a serious improvement over what he has been producing recently.
9 possessions to both Gorringe and Everitt bodes poorly for their futures. Everitt won't be getting back into the seniors with performances like that. Smith also had 9, but he does chase and tackle. Hard. I don't think he is doing enough, but he does try this year.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on April 25, 2016, 10:42:59 am
Tom Wilson just rocks up each season and gives his best, even when we get beat  he is always in our best...27 possies with 5 tackles, come along way from the little kid I saw playing basketball at Nunawading..
Be great to see him get rookied but he maybe doesnt have enough tricks at senior level..could be our Caleb Daniel?
Matthew Dick must be getting close..another 26 possies....
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: RiverRat on April 25, 2016, 06:45:28 pm
Tom Wilson just rocks up each season and gives his best, even when we get beat  he is always in our best...27 possies with 5 tackles, come along way from the little kid I saw playing basketball at Nunawading..
Be great to see him get rookied but he maybe doesnt have enough tricks at senior level..could be our Caleb Daniel?


I like Willo's effort and production but we failed to rookie Lambert or Marcon - both of whom had shown much more than Willo.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: shadesy on April 26, 2016, 10:31:42 am
RR

Haw did DVR look? He struggled last year but seems to be putting in some very consistent performances. Uses the ball well which will suit Bolton and I feel he could slot back in the AFL side with some good payers around him.

I am not a Tuohy Fan and see him as his replacement (or Simmo's).
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: flyboy77 on April 26, 2016, 12:31:56 pm
RR

Haw did DVR look? He struggled last year but seems to be putting in some very consistent performances. Uses the ball well which will suit Bolton and I feel he could slot back in the AFL side with some good payers around him.

I am not a Tuohy Fan and see him as his replacement (or Simmo's).

2E is right off the boil this year.....perhaps he's a winger/HFF or nothing at all.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: shadesy on April 26, 2016, 12:50:07 pm
I've never been a Tuohy Fan. gets out positioned too easily, cannot read the play all that well and fumbles to many times.

Coaches rated him last year and he would be at the top of my list as trade Value. I reckon you could sneak into a late first round/early second round for him and would easily be replaced.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: RiverRat on April 26, 2016, 06:42:19 pm
RR

Haw did DVR look? He struggled last year but seems to be putting in some very consistent performances. Uses the ball well which will suit Bolton and I feel he could slot back in the AFL side with some good payers around him.


Still has a fair way to go but has possibly edged ahead of Clem Smith in the pecking order.

I don't believe he has earned promotion so if that is the main criterion, he might be waiting for a while yet.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: DJC on April 26, 2016, 09:23:28 pm
Josh Fraser's player review:

Quote
2. Jack Silvagni
12 disposals, three tackles, three inside 50s, two goals

‘SOS’ got better as the game went on. He was really lively in the second half and had some impressive individual efforts to keep us in the contest.

18. Daniel Gorringe
Nine disposals, three marks (one contested), seven hit-outs

He shared ruck duties with Wood and Korcheck, provided some good follow-up work and showed running capabilities as mobile ruckman. He needs to work on impacting the high ball.

20. Andrejs Everitt
Nine disposals, five handball receives

He didn’t impact the game the way he would’ve liked. He worked hard in patches to provide an option as a leading forward but didn’t get enough of it forward of centre to impact.

26. Matthew Dick
25 disposals, 17 handball receives, four marks

He played a role in our back six defending well in patches one on one, and came across at the right time to help teammates in the air. He found a lot of the ball and continues to work hard on using it effectively.

27. Michael Jamison
10 disposals, five handball receives

He had some inconsistent one-on-one contests where he was able to impact well but was also out-marked on occasions. He had a terrific smother in the third quarter.

31. Jayden Foster
17 disposals, seven marks

Showed some signs of improvement playing as a defender: he positioned himself well and was okay in the contest with still some areas to improve on. He was more involved when it came to getting the ball in hand.

34. Jesse Glass-McCasker
Six disposals, three marks

He found himself in a position to compete on a lot of high balls, continues to work hard on aggressive spoiling and marking when opportunity presents. Jesse had the highlight of the day with his smother which stopped a certain goal.


36. Cameron Wood
Six disposals, two tackles, 15 hit-outs

Cam rotated between forward and ruck, but didn’t have a huge impact as a big man in the air. He did follow up with a couple of aggressive tackles around the contest.

48. Kristian Jaksch
14 disposals, four marks, three goals

It was a patchy game from KJ, who finished with three goals and became our focal point with Liam Jones going out of the team. The next step for him is to build consistency over four quarters.

49. Dennis Armfield
27 disposals, four clearances, 12 handball receives, three inside 50s

Dennis typically provided a real spark going inside as a midfielder, and was a major catalyst in the third quarter in contests which got us back in the game.

56. Andrew Gallucci
11 disposals, three clearances, six handball receives

He applied some elite chase pressure and was involved in possession chains in the middle of the ground. Andrew continues to work hard on areas of his game which will ultimately elevate his performance.

65. Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
15 disposals, eight marks (two inside 50), one goal

Dillon played his role as a winger really well, and he showed some positive signs of his ability to compete overhead and get forward at the right time to finish with 1.1.

67. Clem Smith
Nine disposals, three marks, two inside 50s

Clem was lively around the contest, and competed hard to win the ball back. When he builds consistency through effort, he’ll build his game to the next level.

76. Jason Tutt
34 disposals, 19 handball receives, six marks, four inside 50s

Probably Tutty’s best game for the year, as he continued to run hard both ways and generally used the ball well. He helped set up a number of scoring opportunities.

80. Matthew Korcheck
Four disposals, 12 hit-outs

It was another learning curve for Matty Korcheck. He had an opportunity to get on the score sheet, continues to show improvement and played both up forward and in the ruck.

Some positive signs and some blokes who aren't living up to expectations.

Folk who want to see Jaksch in the seniors may have to wait a while.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: BluePhantom on April 26, 2016, 09:44:22 pm
Josh Fraser's player review:

Some positive signs and some blokes who aren't living up to expectations.

Folk who want to see Jaksch in the seniors may have to wait a while.

Could he be like Matty Watson was for us average in the 2s but did OK in the 1s?
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: MilkIt on April 26, 2016, 10:02:55 pm
What's going on with Cuningham? Didn't play, not listed as injured.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: crashlander on April 27, 2016, 10:50:31 am
I think he must have been 'rested'. Not sure, as I haven't heard anything, but it looks likeliest, considering.
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: flyboy77 on April 27, 2016, 12:14:32 pm
Just watched some highlights. Gee, Jack SOS has a sweet kicking action.

Perhaps he can coach Levi?
Title: Re: VFL Rd3: Northern Blues vs. Port Melbourne
Post by: Sexybronco on April 27, 2016, 09:08:19 pm
I think he must have been 'rested'. Not sure, as I haven't heard anything, but it looks likeliest, considering.
May have been a travelling emergency for the 1's