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But Paul he makes so many poor decisions
Better than Jones but still poor

Having said all of that there’s nobody better on our list that can play the role. What would we give for a Peter Dean or  Andy McKay?

You have to feel sorry for Plowman. He's our modern day Bret Thornton. Apart from injuries, he's been a mainstay in our defence since he got here. Another whipping boy he reminds me of is Zac Dawson.

We can get the ball in our hands, it's obvious because we get more inside 50's.
But we have for a looong time now and will continue to do so is bomb the ball in.
This bomb and hope thing is useless. We always seem to bomb it on top of our forwards head, never to advantage.
The filth showed us how to do it last night, forward setup running in patterns and away from each other.
The midfield / backs spotting up the forwards and honouring the lead. Their foot skills are way superior to us.
Williams, Saad and Martin are our accurate kickers, all coming from other clubs which suggests we are doing something wrong about kicking skills.
Who is our forward coach? who is our midfield coach? who is our back coach? who is our rucks coach? Therefore what does our main coach do? And what do they do all summer???
Doing the same thing over and over again hoping for something different to happen??
That probably says more about us supporters (becoming more like casual observers) than the coaching staff 

PS: Congratulations to the Carlton PR staff for sucking us in for another year of pain. They are the only ones who do their job well.

You have to feel sorry for Plowman. He's our modern day Bret Thornton. Apart from injuries, he's been a mainstay in our defence since he got here. Another whipping boy he reminds me of is Zac Dawson.

Yes, in general he is not as bad as fans make out but he has those moments in every game, last night I thought he had a particularly bad 1/2 and it colours opinions of him.

It's hard to separate the player from the environment though, and Plowman wasn't the only player having a very ordinary 1/2 of football.

I don't think there's a defender in the country who could've prevented some of the gifts to Plow's opponents. He was let down by players further up the ground.

Yes agree. Too much of the Pies ball movement from the centre was effortless, worse than a training drill.

I was at the game (unfortunately).

We got smashed out of the guts from the get go.

My question, for those who saw the big picture - did Teague try and change anything to stop the bleeding? Tumbleweeds.

To me, nothing changed. No argument here.

And we were oh so predictable (and slow to move the ball forward). Yep.

Pies came to play, we didn't. Spot on. Preparation.

Some  'big name' players need to be playing in the magoos next weekend. Tick.

That effort last night was worse than unacceptable - and our leaders need to stand up and step up. On-field leadership well below par.

Has Cripps already gone (to WCE) mentally? Something is certainly up with Crippa, as a number of us have noticed.

He's a shadow of his 2019 self. Absolutely.

Who is the midfield coach, are you detecting any long term trends?

For me the answer to this question is not about being good or bad, it's more about making a break from the past.

DeGoey, Elliott and I think Cox as well, are not easy match ups. You won't find many defenders that can go with those blokes, especially when they're firing. Our other defenders must have a secret stash of short straws just to spite him.

I agree, but it's not just in those contests that our players get judged.

It's dropping chest marks, fumbling pick ups in the clear, missing targets or bombing the ball mindlessly to nobody. In fairness Plowman wasn't on his own in this regard.

Can you recall what MM did to Mitch Robinson after his goal line brain fade, can imagine what he would have said / done to Jones? I suspect Jones would have been put in a taxi with a torn up contract before leaving the ground!

Can I just just say, bearing in mind my perfect, unblemished record of dogged objectivity on the "coach question" it was Bolton who saved Jones career, and it was under Bolton that he played his best footy.

Who is the midfield coach, are you detecting any long term trends?

For me the answer to this question is not about being good or bad, it's more about making a break from the past.