Carlton Supporters Club

In your opinion.  Others hold the opposing view.  Does that make either party wrong- a terrorist is a freedom fighter viewed from the other side.

I suspect as a teenage boy he isn't yet ready to embrace the idea. At 15 I would not have been either.
If you had asked a 15 year old me, I would have firmly been in the no camp, I know I would.
I think a lot of teenage boys are still 'against' homosexuality no matter what we teach them.
I found homosexuality something strange and not something that I was exposed to at all.

I believe the 'no supporter' as put would likely turn their views around, but I will let him come to the conclusion in his own time.
Of course that wouldn't be the case if he was hateful in his opinion.

As I have said I am happy to let both my children form their opinions (as long as they are also respectful of others) and feel free to talk through them without me picking them apart.

No worries.

As you can see, I seek only to understand with my questions.

You ask that question with motive.

It's not a relevant because as you know there are people on both sides of the argument in every valid religion.

You are on a slippery slope PaulP, why introduce religion?

Thry has the right to hold any religion and belief he likes as long as it operates within the laws of the land, and nobody better than yourself should know that!

All you need to go over the edge is introduce racism!

Is it though?

Should I just believe you because you are telling me it is?

I dont like being told what to believe.

It reminds me of living in a fascist dictatorship.

+1 its irritating me to the point of madness.

The other thing that is irritating me, is the fact that the "no" vote boosters are getting no right to campaign (I don't care what basis is used to justify that, its wrong).

You can't have a proper election by silencing one side so why would this apply in a discussion which is ironically promoting marriage equality?

It seems to have missed the point somewhat and the meaning of the word.

Paul
Not all groups are represented equally and they won't whilst the distribution in the population isn't equal.
But here is the thing, all polls point to most Australian's agreeing with the cause, but like every cause, it has to follow process.

It doesn't matter if it was equal or not equal.
Because people have been bullied in the past (or now) it doesn't excuse passing that to another person.
As for the 'fight' being fair. You are right, it isn't, but not in the way you are stressing.

It isn't poo pooing as you call it over name calling. It is bullying and it is specifically trying to impact peoples lives for their views. A gay couple apparently come out against gay marriage and was apparently hounded with calls of being homophobic etc.
What if it was to turn into a slanging match on both sides? There is nothing dignified and respectful about that.

Nothing can be said that justifies the attacks on people for their views. It is unnecessary and ridiculous.

Well hopefully they win the vote and they can stop hijacking Father's day and my Facebook page.

I understand why it happens also, but I don't respect or empathise.
A cause starts to lose people once it loses moral high ground and attacking people and their livelihood was enough to do it for me