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Title: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: kruddler on March 07, 2019, 06:46:42 pm
Extended squad is out for sundays game....
Backs:   21. Nicola Stevens   36. Jayde Van Dyk   
Half-backs:   9. Kerryn Harrington   20.Charlotte Wilson   6. Gab Pound
Centreline:   2. Katie Loynes   10. Sarah Hosking   15. Chloe Dalton
Half-forwards:   4. Madison Prespakis   7. Tayla Harris   16. Breann Moody
Forwards:   3. Darcy Vescio   1. Brianna Davey   
Followers:   30. Alison Downie   19. Georgia Gee   11. Jess Hosking
Interchange:   14. Brooke Walker   5. Abbie McKay   18. Tilly Lucas-Rodd
8. Amelia Mullane   17. Courtney Webb   26. Shae Audley
12. Lauren Brazzale

In: Shae Audley, Courtney Webb, Lauren Brazzale, Tilly Lucas–Rodd
Out: Emerson Woods, Jess Edwards (omitted)


Davey named up forward this week.

I'd like to see Brazzale as one of the ins.....
Webb as a possible debutant.
Don't think we can play both Audley and Lucas-Rodd in the same team anymore, so one of them in at most.
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: crashlander on March 09, 2019, 03:31:18 pm
Final line-up released:
Carlton v Brisbane at Ikon Park, 4.05pm AEDT
CARLTON
B: N.Stevens 21 J.Van Dyk 36 J.Hosking 11
HB: C.Wilson 20 K.Harrington 9 G.Pound 6
C: K.Loynes 2 
HF: M.Prespakis 4 T.Harris 7 B.Moody 16
F: D.Vescio 3 B.Davey - C 1 G.Gee 19
R: A.Downie 30 S.Hosking 10 C.Dalton 15
Int: B.Walker 14 A.McKay 5 T.Lucas-Rodd 18 A.Mullane 8 L.Brazzale 12 
In: T.Lucas-Rodd, L.Brazzale
Out: J.Edwards , E.Woods
Emerg: C.Webb, S.Audley

I'm a bit surprised to see Jess Edwards dropped, but...

BRISBANE
B: L.Kaslar - C 11 S.Campbell 20 K.Lutkins 13
HB: J.Ellenger 29 S.Virgo 5 E.Bates 1
C: B.Koenen 3 
HF: L.Arnell 16 E.Zielke 8 N.Exon 15
F: J.Wuetschner 23 S.Frederick-Traub 14 S.Webb 4
Foll: J.Keeffe 27 A.Anderson 18 J.Zanchetta 7
I/C: M.Dowrick 33 G.Collingwood 28 J.Yorston 25 K.McCarthy 9 J.Tawhiao-Wardlaw 30 
In: J.Ellenger, S.Webb
Out: M.Hunt, A.Clarke
Emerg: A.Clarke 21, N.Grider 17
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: DJC on March 09, 2019, 03:39:11 pm
Are the outs dropped or managed?  In past seasons it was expected that players would be rested to manage fitness and to give others on the roster an opportunity.
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: kruddler on March 10, 2019, 09:34:52 am
Courtesy of a cats loss yesterday we are left with our destiny in our own hands. A simple 'win and were in' scenario today.

We will go top of conference b with a win today and have a game and % on 3rd spot with a game to go.

Of course if we do win today we'll be top of our ladder as well. Meaning we can avoid North in week 1 of finals should we stay there.

But one week at a time and today is a tough game that we need to be fully focussed on
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: Jeffy38 on March 10, 2019, 07:03:55 pm
They said we would play north based on current ladder position. Confused...
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: LP on March 10, 2019, 07:29:19 pm
They said we would play north based on current ladder position. Confused...

Is it 1st in one conference plays 2nd in the other?
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: Baggers on March 10, 2019, 07:55:54 pm
I thought it would be 1st v 2nd in each conference as the prelim, then the two winners play each other in the GF.

Good win today, well done gals.

Hats off to Harf and the gals, from wooden spoon to finals contenders... bravo.
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: kruddler on March 10, 2019, 08:09:22 pm
I thought it would be 1st v 2nd in each conference as the prelim, then the two winners play each other in the GF.

Good win today, well done gals.

Hats off to Harf and the gals, from wooden spoon to finals contenders... bravo.
Correct.

Currently, North are sitting 2nd on their ladder, courtesy of a defeat at the hands of the crows last week (which i forgot about).

But their ladder position can and will change based on next weeks fixtures - dees vs crows and kangas vs dockers. It could all come down to % for those 2.
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: kruddler on March 10, 2019, 08:10:36 pm
Personally i haven't seen the game yet, so i'll have to wait until tomorrow (or tuesday) when i have time to watch it before i comment. But, this is big for our girls. Season on the line and they came up trumps. Good effort. Lets keep some winning momentum going.
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: LP on March 10, 2019, 08:21:12 pm
I thought it would be 1st v 2nd in each conference as the prelim, then the two winners play each other in the GF.

They cross over.

First Preliminary Final: Conference A winner hosts Conference B runner-up

Second Preliminary Final: Conference B winner hosts Conference A runner-up

Both Preliminary Finals to be played on Saturday March 23.

Grand Final: First Preliminary Final winner v Second Preliminary Final winner
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: DJC on March 10, 2019, 10:49:22 pm
A very good win by the girls in a very even performance. We’re really coming home with a wet sail.

The Rugby 7s girls are really taking to AFLW as if it was their first code.  Their decision making and execution is good and I suspect that reflects the similarity between the codes.

Finishing top of our conference will give us an advantage but the preliminary final will be a challenge regardless of who finishes on top in the other conference.  If we’re good enough, we’ll win and make it to the granny.
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: Thryleon on March 10, 2019, 10:55:09 pm
A very good win by the girls in a very even performance. We’re really coming home with a wet sail.

The Rugby 7s girls are really taking to AFLW as if it was their first code.  Their decision making and execution is good and I suspect that reflects the similarity between the codes.

Finishing top of our conference will give us an advantage but the preliminary final will be a challenge regardless of who finishes on top in the other conference.  If we’re good enough, we’ll win and make it to the granny.

I thought coming home with a wet sail is slower???


We are storming home!
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: DJC on March 11, 2019, 12:00:25 am
I thought coming home with a wet sail is slower???


We are storming home!

Sailors would wet the sails so that the ship/yacht can sail closer to the wind. Coming home with a wet sail = faster, stronger, more direct, etc ????
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: crashlander on March 11, 2019, 11:34:43 am
CARLTON        1.2       2.5       5.6       6.7 (43)
BRISBANE       2.0       2.2       3.2       4.3 (27)

GOALS
Carlton: Walker 2, Harris 2, Vescio, Lucas-Rodd
Brisbane: Ellenger 2, McCarthy, Wuetschner

BEST
Carlton: Prespakis, Harris, Dalton, Walker, Davey, Stevens
Brisbane: Lutkins, Bates, Anderson, Wuetschner, Exon, Ellenger

I had a very enjoyable afternoon at the football yesterday, with a few thousand lucky others, as the Blues won their way into the finals. It was pleasant not to be cooking under 35ºC+ temperatures for a change.
Our ladies started quite well but let Brisbane in when the ball got over the back. Our forwards looked dangerous, but we did not get it to them all that well. As the game went on, we got stronger, shutting down the more dangerous Brisbane forwards, while making a bit more of our chances.
Maddy Prespakis started like a house on fire, with some of the best centre clearances seen by Carlton this year. She had a couple of quiet patches, but her 27 possessions were excellent.
Alison Downie and Breann Moody rucked well against taller, stronger opponents. The few times they were beaten in the ruck lead to Brisbane scores. Downie, in particular, rucked very intelligently and was instrumental to our win.
Breann Moody is a very frustrating player who definitely has not got her mojo back yet, for all of her improved form. Her shot for goal was awful. Other things she did could have been really good, but poor disposal ruined them. She’s got a lot of work to do.
Nik Stevens played one of her best games for Carlton yesterday; a real improvement over some of the sloppy work she has done this year.
Brooke Walker was very good but needs to work on her kicking. Her 2 goals came from really good work and willingness to take the game on. Much better than last week.
Chloe Dalton was the biggest threat to Maddy Prespakis for BOG honours. Around the ball and resting in the forward line, her pace and run was excellent. Her game is coming on in leaps and bounds.
Darcy Vescio and Tayla Harris were a great set of key targets, with Harris’ desperation and strong contested marking on show. If Tayla kicks all the time like she did today, she will never miss again. She really kicked through the ball in a way that some of the guys could well note. If she did that from 10 m out, we’d probably have only one loss for the season.
Harrington was strong in defence against her huge opponent, and Jayde van Dyke and Gabby Pound were good.
Georgia Gee has been down lately, but she had a much better game this week.
Davey was also down somewhat, but her strong contributions in the clinches were very positive.

One thing that disappointed me was the form of Tilly Lucas-Rodd. She really looked small and slow and her kicking was a reminder of earlier times. I am sorry to say that the game is passing her. :(
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: cookie2 on March 11, 2019, 12:51:40 pm
Sailors would wet the sails so that the ship/yacht can sail closer to the wind. Coming home with a wet sail = faster, stronger, more direct, etc ????

Apparently wetting causes the canvas fibres to swell thereby making the sails less porous so they harness more of the wind's power.
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: Thryleon on March 11, 2019, 02:05:46 pm
Sailors would wet the sails so that the ship/yacht can sail closer to the wind. Coming home with a wet sail = faster, stronger, more direct, etc ????

I reckon the saying has been used incorrectly most times I've heard it then.


Good to know thanks!
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: DJC on March 11, 2019, 07:32:26 pm
I reckon the saying has been used incorrectly most times I've heard it then.


Good to know thanks!

Just remember that I have been sailing three times in my life ... I have read lots of novels set in the age of sail though  ;)
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: kruddler on March 11, 2019, 07:32:39 pm
CARLTON        1.2       2.5       5.6       6.7 (43)
BRISBANE       2.0       2.2       3.2       4.3 (27)

GOALS
Carlton: Walker 2, Harris 2, Vescio, Lucas-Rodd
Brisbane: Ellenger 2, McCarthy, Wuetschner

BEST
Carlton: Prespakis, Harris, Dalton, Walker, Davey, Stevens
Brisbane: Lutkins, Bates, Anderson, Wuetschner, Exon, Ellenger

I had a very enjoyable afternoon at the football yesterday, with a few thousand lucky others, as the Blues won their way into the finals. It was pleasant not to be cooking under 35ºC+ temperatures for a change.
Our ladies started quite well but let Brisbane in when the ball got over the back. Our forwards looked dangerous, but we did not get it to them all that well. As the game went on, we got stronger, shutting down the more dangerous Brisbane forwards, while making a bit more of our chances.
Maddy Prespakis started like a house on fire, with some of the best centre clearances seen by Carlton this year. She had a couple of quiet patches, but her 27 possessions were excellent.
Alison Downie and Breann Moody rucked well against taller, stronger opponents. The few times they were beaten in the ruck lead to Brisbane scores. Downie, in particular, rucked very intelligently and was instrumental to our win.
Breann Moody is a very frustrating player who definitely has not got her mojo back yet, for all of her improved form. Her shot for goal was awful. Other things she did could have been really good, but poor disposal ruined them. She’s got a lot of work to do.
Nik Stevens played one of her best games for Carlton yesterday; a real improvement over some of the sloppy work she has done this year.
Brooke Walker was very good but needs to work on her kicking. Her 2 goals came from really good work and willingness to take the game on. Much better than last week.
Chloe Dalton was the biggest threat to Maddy Prespakis for BOG honours. Around the ball and resting in the forward line, her pace and run was excellent. Her game is coming on in leaps and bounds.
Darcy Vescio and Tayla Harris were a great set of key targets, with Harris’ desperation and strong contested marking on show. If Tayla kicks all the time like she did today, she will never miss again. She really kicked through the ball in a way that some of the guys could well note. If she did that from 10 m out, we’d probably have only one loss for the season.
Harrington was strong in defence against her huge opponent, and Jayde van Dyke and Gabby Pound were good.
Georgia Gee has been down lately, but she had a much better game this week.
Davey was also down somewhat, but her strong contributions in the clinches were very positive.

One thing that disappointed me was the form of Tilly Lucas-Rodd. She really looked small and slow and her kicking was a reminder of earlier times. I am sorry to say that the game is passing her. :(

I reckon we thought the game had passed her by last year. Thats the reason why she was dropped after round 1. Same reason Audley is out of the side.

TBH i reckon we are a much better side since we started to cull the slower players from it. Yes, its unfortunate for Tilly, but when you are short, slow and can't kick too well, it is what it is.
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: DJC on March 11, 2019, 07:46:39 pm
I reckon we thought the game had passed her by last year. Thats the reason why she was dropped after round 1. Same reason Audley is out of the side.

TBH i reckon we are a much better side since we started to cull the slower players from it. Yes, its unfortunate for Tilly, but when you are short, slow and can't kick too well, it is what it is.

So that’s why my footy career never took off  :)

The game is getting faster and skill levels are improving rapidly.  Girls who aren’t athletic and don’t have good skills will fall by the wayside.
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: madbluboy on March 11, 2019, 07:47:48 pm
John Ralph comparing our fortunes here to when we made the finals in 2013.
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: flyboy77 on March 12, 2019, 10:06:52 am
So that’s why my footy career never took off  :)

The game is getting faster and skill levels are improving rapidly.  Girls who aren’t athletic and don’t have good skills will fall by the wayside.

That's been evident since the dawn of AFLW - the girls who are great runners have it all over the rest....the short season, part time nature of the league only exacerbates the divergence of athleticism!

Not sure I'm on board with the rapid improvement in skill level!  ;)
Title: Re: AFLW 2019 Round 6 vs Lions
Post by: LP on March 12, 2019, 10:43:57 am
Not sure I'm on board with the rapid improvement in skill level!  ;)

I think overall they are clearly better at hitting targets and sticking tackles.

One thing that hasn't really improved is marking, but I'd suggest that is more a function of hand size and less to do with skills. However as mentioned the short seasons does not help. It was interesting to hear Roos yesterday talking about the men needing at least 3 or 4 games to get their match day skills working, for the girls that is half a season!