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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Review
Our defense has been holding up admirably under what I would consider overwhelming weight of entries.

Teams literally setup to create seperation in order to quell their ability to get across and help each other.

We arent exactly chock full of talented, tough, hard defenders, and our opposition arent exactly able to score at will (when they do, its because of the way it comes in, rather than the way the defense structures).

I tend to agree. Back 6 isn’t as bad as many are making out.  Some of Ryan’s goals (aside from the hanger!), Geoff southby, rod austin, Bruce Doull and sos rolled into one wouldn’t have stopped.    It’s the ball walking out of the guts or out of the fwd line that is the issue
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast
The last quarter was poor. No way around that. But we competed pretty well until then. And that goal from Betts was sheer Magic!

[1] We should have been well in from at 3/4 time. We had so many opportunities that we couldn't take.
[2] Doc had a shocker early. Things just didn't go his way, for all of his effort. The ball bounced off his head at one point. He was a guy whose game improved as the game went on.
[3] Martin was disappointing and should have come back through the 2nds. he was carrying more bandages than I do, and I do a good impression of the Mummy when I'm in the Gym. Braces all over me!
[4] Setters was so good early, but he dropped out of the game like he was shot. I am very disappointed by Setters. His 1st quarter was as good any anyone this year.
[5] Their goals cam much easier than ours did. We worked so hard for so little reward in the 2nd and 3rd quarters, while theirs came too easily. Goals from any angle.

Interesting Martin played much more in the guts than previously.  Didn’t do anything, but played there.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Review

https://www.afl.com.au/news/603306/carlton-president-mark-logiudice-reveals-hes-stepping-down-luke-sayers-to-replace-him/amp

A bit of background on the president elect. I heard Caro saying he is an auditor and a hard taskmaster - FWIW

Just in terms of the reported comments from players: anyone following AFL has repeatedly asked
1. What's the game plan?
2. Why that selection?
The only other equally obvious question is 3. Why are blokes continually played out of position?

Go figure. I'm at a loss to understand our goals. I guess that says it all really. When long term members have no idea of the club's direction/brand, there's probably a chink in the armor.




CEO of PWC would be a prck of a job, and one that would require a lot of backroom "negotiating".  Reporting to 100 or so Partners who all think they know better than you.  Hes a pretty impressive guy.  Hopefully he can bring some corporate structure to all aspects of the club
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast
While there may be more to it, the lack of initial support for Newman when he crashed head first is concerning.

The Kane "Fwit" Cornes piece on this was scathing (as you can imagine)....  when he first went down play was going on, so you can excuse no-one going to him).  havent gone back to look at what happened when play stopped.   youd hope there would be a reason for this, esp for a bloke who has faught back from injury...
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/06/07/the-aspects-of-carltons-loss-that-confused-david-king/

Kingy, maaaaaate. Welcome aboard. 10 years too late, but anyway....................

Geez he has trotted out some cliches there.   Saad doesnt want to defend - hes actually been pretty good (just keep listening to what Cheats supporters tell you Kingy, and dont actually watch the game).  Yeah, they didnt want him deep in a back pocket - but if they had done this, then everyone would have stitched them up - "why dont you free up Saad".   Williams was OK and used it pretty well, as well as defending when he needed to.   Stocker got done on the day, and maybe they should have moved him - but do you sacrifice the drive from half back (which we are always told is so important) that Saad and Williams provide

Everyone acknowledges that when the footy comes in so easily, there is not much the backline can do.  This is the real issue - the midfield not running both ways.  We all know that on here. As we actually watch

King just rolling out some cheap rhetoric (most of which has been fed to him by oppo supporters)... thouhgt he was slightly better than that (only just slightly)
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast
Inside 50's: 47-57
Efficiency Inside 50: 42.1%
Clearances:  24-37
Centre Clearances:  9-15
Contested Possessions:  112-135

Yeah that looks like Murphy's on the half forward flanks fault.   

Sheed, Nit Nat and the Midfield smashed us.     We still need mids, mids and more mids.

Centre clearances have been a huge issue for about the last month.  I know I watch with one eye, but, at the centre bounce, every time the oppo gets their hand on the ball they seem to be able to run free, every time we
touch it, we are tackled (many times before we touch it).  Are we not ruthless enough in listing the boundaries on the rules??  Cripps is held at every bounce before he touches it, why don’t we do the same??
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast
Ahhh, the premiership quarter  8)

I heard one of the stars from that great era being asked about how that developed and whether the players took it easy knowing they could turn it on in the 3rd quarter. The response was something like, “Nah, the boys used to party on Friday nights so they were a bit dusty when games started. But after the half-time break, they’d recovered enough to play hard in the 2nd half”.

I can’t remember who it was who said that, but it was a classic.

The old parko half time address - just get the first goal of the 3rd q, and let the heatley stand do the rest
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Pre game perturbations: AFL 2021 Rd 12: Carlton vs West Coast
I remember that game well, I was standing behind the goals at the Lygon St end - even more interesting, it came immediately after our two worst games for the season (the only 2 we lost).  They fronted up against Hawthorn and absolutely steamrolled them, 15 more wins after that  including the flag.

Sometimes, a line in the sand game can snowball into a run of top performances (crosses fingers for Sunday and beyond...)

God I miss those days.  3 goals down at half time...  not a problem...  1000% confident we’ll be up by 4 goals by 3/4 time....esp if we are kicking to heatley end
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney
Fans have to surrendered the idea that these "AFL Experts" watch games like we do!

Most probably write articles like that off reading one line in a summary.

Rohan Connelly did a good bit on it during his podcast - basically said the press box at games is a ghost town, as none of the footy journos actually care about the footy, more interested in muckraking and back room crap
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney
You can't confuse the overall count with the consequences of individual decisions or non-decisions.

I'm assuming all that early good luck, and the associated booing ferals, is the reason why we missed out on getting several frees inside our F50 later in the game.

Yeah, we had it early.  But the 2nd half they were gifted a few goals, and we could have had a head ripped off and not gotten a free in fwd50