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Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #135
Mckay kicked 3.5.
In the third quarter, Fogarty kicked at goal truly only for a mark to be taken on the line.  If that one, and Harry's poster both go in we might have gone on to win the match.

Thats the margin right there guys.  Harry kicks 5.3 instead of 3.5 and we are that much closer too.

When it comes down to it, we werent that bad.

For all the Gibbons haters, he is an onfield coach for us, and plugs a lot of holes that earns him very little on the stats sheet.

He went off, and we crumbled in a way that surprised me.

It just goes to show, that we are still working out a complementary group of players.  I think we have enough of each type, and that our improvement doesnt come from changing players over for another, but getting the group to work together for longer.
I thought Harry hit the post twice. 1 at each end.
...although it may have been someone else first.
Either way, we had 2 posters.

....and that doesn't include the betts miracle that hit the back of the post on the bounce.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #136
Time for my weekly hitout report??

Pittonet had 31 hitouts from 58 contests - He won 53.4% of contests he was in.
He had 8 hitouts to advantage meaning 25.8% of his hitouts went to advantage.
My stat - hitout to advantage from ruck contest % - 13.8%

DeKoning had 13 hitouts from his 28 contests - He won 46.4% of contests he was in.
He had 6 hitouts to advantage meaning 46.2% of his hitouts went to advantage.
My stat - hitout to advantage from ruck contest % - 21.4%

Sinclair had 24 hitouts from 68 contests - He won 35.3% of contests he was in.
He had 5 hitouts to advantage meaning 20.8% of his hitouts went to advantage.
My stat - hitout to advantage from ruck contest % - 7.3%

McLean had 6 hitouts from 16 contests - He won 37.5% of contests he was in.
He had 1 hitout to advantage meaning 16.7% of his hitouts went to advantage.
My stat - hitout to advantage from ruck contest % - 6.2%

As far as ruck craft goes.....we dominated the ruck.
Lets look at some other stats.......Total Hitouts Swans 30 vs Carlton 44, Clearances Both teams had 35 each, Centre Clearances 16-12 for the Swans,
 Stoppage Clearances..think we had the edge by 3-4......in short for 14 extra tapouts we really didnt dominate at all.
Pittonet and DeKoning had one mark between them, Sinclair had six.........Pittonet had -10 metres gained so he was stuck in reverse after every stoppage. For the 14 extra hitouts we had they didnt amount to any outstanding dominance as far as resulting play goes and our two rucks were shizen around the ground.
With Hickey out we needed to really dominate the ruck, we essentially played three ruckman vs their No2 ruck and a part time inexperienced kid forward. If that was a dominating performance from our blokes then the bar is set low.....

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #137
Lets look at some other stats.......Total Hitouts Swans 30 vs Carlton 44, Clearances Both teams had 35 each, Centre Clearances 16-12 for the Swans,
 Stoppage Clearances..think we had the edge by 3-4......in short for 14 extra tapouts we really didnt dominate at all.
Pittonet and DeKoning had one mark between them, Sinclair had six.........Pittonet had -10 metres gained so he was stuck in reverse after every stoppage. For the 14 extra hitouts we had they didnt amount to any outstanding dominance as far as resulting play goes and our two rucks were shizen around the ground.
With Hickey out we needed to really dominate the ruck, we essentially played three ruckman vs their No2 ruck and a part time inexperienced kid forward. If that was a dominating performance from our blokes then the bar is set low.....
Read the last line i wrote.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #138
Read the last line i wrote.
Dominated ruck craft, yes I read that....not sure I would call 14 extra hitouts domination vs their second string setup.
30-40 extra I would call domination. 14 extra when their main ruck was out was very average IMO and when you add that to what Malcom Blight would call pathetic Pittonet and DeKoning around the ground then it was a very underwhelming performance overall. If NicNat gets 14 more hitouts than our blokes next week I'll be calling that a win for us, not domination from the WC AA ruck....

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #139
Mckay kicked 3.5.
In the third quarter, Fogarty kicked at goal truly only for a mark to be taken on the line.  If that one, and Harry's poster both go in we might have gone on to win the match. Yep. We were attacking attacking and attacking for no results. Just though at the time that if we get a couple of more goals it could be the spark for us to put the foot on the throat. But Sydney kept defending, desperate spoils, tackles, and moved the ball to their forward line and scored goals. It was like we have thrown our best at them and we still cannot put them away. Hence maybe the 4th quarter fade out.

Thats the margin right there guys.  Harry kicks 5.3 instead of 3.5 and we are that much closer too. Papley got into it in the second half. His opponent, Stocker, was ball watching a couple of time and Papley got out the back were he got the ball and scored a goals. Maybe the wrong matchup for him at the time.

When it comes down to it, we werent that bad.

For all the Gibbons haters, he is an onfield coach for us, and plugs a lot of holes that earns him very little on the stats sheet.

He went off, and we crumbled in a way that surprised me.

It just goes to show, that we are still working out a complementary group of players.  I think we have enough of each type, and that our improvement doesnt come from changing players over for another, but getting the group to work together for longer.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #140
Let's not go overboard Pittonet was OK but he had very little influence, but then none of the rucks did!

It's bit hard to tell when you have such crap umpiring, multiple bad decisions directly generated at least 3 or 4 Swan's goals.
The Force Awakens!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #141
Thought we got the rub of the green.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #142
Coaches' votes :

Sydney v Carlton
10 Isaac Heeney (SYD)
6 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
4 Jake Lloyd (SYD)
4 Harry McKay (CARL)
3 Harry Cunningham (SYD)
2 Josh Kennedy (SYD)
1 Tom Papley (SYD)

Sam Walsh currently sits 8th overall.

 

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #143
Thought we got the rub of the green.
You can't confuse the overall count with the consequences of individual decisions or non-decisions.

I'm assuming all that early good luck, and the associated booing ferals, is the reason why we missed out on getting several frees inside our F50 later in the game.
The Force Awakens!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #144
Well (to state the obvious) I guess it boils down to this...
No firm decisions need to be made just yet (although I suspect some already have) but...
The second half of this season is going to determine the careers of a number of players and coaches.
It's in their hands.

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #145
Coaches' votes :

Sydney v Carlton
10 Isaac Heeney (SYD)
6 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
4 Jake Lloyd (SYD)
4 Harry McKay (CARL)
3 Harry Cunningham (SYD)
2 Josh Kennedy (SYD)
1 Tom Papley (SYD)

Sam Walsh currently sits 8th overall.
Couple of lazy Carlton smalls who couldnt be bothered chasing or manning up the two Swans vote winning rebounders
in Cunningham and Lloyd. The stats back up those votes.....



Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #147
You can't confuse the overall count with the consequences of individual decisions or non-decisions.

I'm assuming all that early good luck, and the associated booing ferals, is the reason why we missed out on getting several frees inside our F50 later in the game.

No confusion on my part. I don't think the umpires had any influence on the result.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #148
There were a few tackles executed by the Swans with tackles that were at the top of the neck in a very "pressure point" type hold which I found interesting.
"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Post Game Analysis: AFL 2021 Rd 11: Carlton vs Sydney

Reply #149
Mckay kicked 3.5.
In the third quarter, Fogarty kicked at goal truly only for a mark to be taken on the line.  If that one, and Harry's poster both go in we might have gone on to win the match.

Thats the margin right there guys.  Harry kicks 5.3 instead of 3.5 and we are that much closer too.

When it comes down to it, we werent that bad.

For all the Gibbons haters, he is an onfield coach for us, and plugs a lot of holes that earns him very little on the stats sheet.

He went off, and we crumbled in a way that surprised me.

It just goes to show, that we are still working out a complementary group of players.  I think we have enough of each type, and that our improvement doesnt come from changing players over for another, but getting the group to work together for longer.

This puts us back in the "if only" frame of mind and immediately sets the bar too low.

Instead, if players  did or were able to do what they are supposed to do we would all be in a more positive frame of mind because we would be winning matches.