Tommy Williamson off early in the game with what looked like a back related injury☹️
Down 47-29 at half time. De Konning continues to do well with two goals.
Just 14pts down. Macreadie off with a hammy, Williamson done for the day, Graham with ice on his calf.....terrific ::).
Aaaaaaaaaaargh bloody injuries... Who kicked the black cat over the sleeping dog under the ladder?
Aaaaaaaaaaargh bloody injuries... Who kicked the black cat over the sleeping dog under the ladder?
Wayne Brittain...16 years ago
It's a long term curse :(
Just 14pts down. Macreadie off with a hammy, Williamson done for the day, Graham with ice on his calf.....terrific ::).
Geez........dropping like flies!! :o
We're very quickly 10 goals behind in the last qtr. We are benchless!
I think we need a Royal Commission into our injury management ???
20 down at 3/4 time. Lost by 73.
Mmmmm words injuries & injury management seems to be coming up a lot here lately
Any one know how jack went in his new role?
And let me guess garlett did stuff all.
Any one know how jack went in his new role?
And let me guess garlett did stuff all.
Jack had another very good game.
Gartlett got 17 touches. That's all I know there.
Jack had another very good game.
Probably time for a couple of games at senior level...but I like the way we're managing him and letting him learn a role.
20 down at 3/4 time. Lost by 73.
Injuries or no injuries a 9 goal deficit in the last quarter is unacceptable against Essendon's VFL team.
I think that Fraser's run his race, never mind running patterns we need someone to breathe some fire into these young blokes.
...or we need our own side at this level where results take a back seat to developing our youth to play at a senior level.
...or we need our own side at this level where results take a back seat to developing our youth to play at a senior level.
Winning is contagious, so is losing.
Winning is contagious, so is losing.
There has to be a plan or a point to it.
Sacrifices for the long term good.
'If' you can put that mind set in place it can compensate for the fact you're not winning.
.....
IF ;)
...or we need our own side at this level where results take a back seat to developing our youth to play at a senior level.
We pretty much have that now, but will have it from next year when they change the entire system. I think its coming for next year.
That being said, having that little level of seperation from the club allows its to escape some scrutiny.
Seeing Carlton last on the ladder in the AFLW was not ideal.
Seeing Carlton last on the ladder in the AFL is embarrassing.
Seeing Northern Blues last on the ladder in the VFL is easier to dismiss as 'not our problem'.
Seeing Carlton last on the ladder in the VFL is the final nail in the coffin.
Just 14pts down. Macreadie off with a hammy, Williamson done for the day, Graham with ice on his calf.....terrific ::).
No point recruiting players if we can't manage their injuries. I am very interested to understand wtf is going on with our injury management, or apparent lack of should I say.
We'll be scratching to field 2 teams if this mystifying trend continues.
There has to be a plan or a point to it.
Sacrifices for the long term good.
'If' you can put that mind set in place it can compensate for the fact you're not winning.
.....IF ;)
When all is said and done the Northern Blues is a sporting team and everyone plays sport to win, telling any young player that winning isn't important in the grand scheme is a bad message to send in my opinion.
We pretty much have that now, but will have it from next year when they change the entire system. I think its coming for next year.
That being said, having that little level of seperation from the club allows its to escape some scrutiny.
Seeing Carlton last on the ladder in the AFLW was not ideal.
Seeing Carlton last on the ladder in the AFL is embarrassing.
Seeing Northern Blues last on the ladder in the VFL is easier to dismiss as 'not our problem'.
Seeing Carlton last on the ladder in the VFL is the final nail in the coffin.
We don't want to hide from our weaknesses
Arnold Schwarzenegger, in his early days, was accused of having weak calves...so he rolled up his track suit pants and exposed them so that the world could see...then he worked the guts out of them until they were up to scratch.
Same with us..Let the world see our weaknesses and work on them until they're elite.
(That might be a bit of a story ;) ...like a lot about Arnold....But I like it, and it's a good philosophy) :D
Injuries or no injuries a 9 goal deficit in the last quarter is unacceptable against Essendon's VFL team.
I think that Fraser's run his race, never mind running patterns we need someone to breathe some fire into these young blokes.
We were benchless by the last qtr and lost most of them in the first half. That last qtr can happen when you have no legs left. We managed to hang on well for 3 qtrs considering.
Most encouraging of our listed players were Silvangi and De Konning, who certainly looks like he'll be a player once he puts on some size. Looks like he'll be equally as prolific as a forward as he might be as a ruck.
When all is said and done the Northern Blues is a sporting team and everyone plays sport to win, telling any young player that winning isn't important in the grand scheme is a bad message to send in my opinion.
Yep
The "Northern Blues" is a Sporting Team...
But the "Carlton Reserves" is (or would be) a development squad, where they're working on certain aspects of their game and game plans.
If the wins come that's good...but if they don't there is still a point and purpose that the players can concentrate on and gain satisfaction from.
No point recruiting players if we can't manage their injuries. I am very interested to understand wtf is going on with our injury management, or apparent lack of should I say.
We'll be scratching to field 2 teams if this mystifying trend continues.
Williamson apparently got a bad knock in his back so we might've been unlucky there.
I do see your point though. Injury management is shocking. Not only getting them but returning them way too early only to cop a repeat injury. Whoever would've thought Murphy would've got over plantar fasciitis in 4 weeks when it generally takes months.
We don't want to hide from our weaknesses
Arnold Schwarzenegger, in his early days, was accused of having weak calves...so he rolled up his track suit pants and exposed them so that the world could see...then he worked the guts out of them until they were up to scratch.
Same with us..Let the world see our weaknesses and work on them until they're elite.
(That might be a bit of a story ;) ...like a lot about Arnold....But I like it, and it's a good philosophy) :D
OK, but i bet Arnold wasn't working out in public where every calf raise was questioned by 100's of journalists.
If he was under as much scrutiny as we would be, perhaps it may have broken him....like it has us.
OK, but i bet Arnold wasn't working out in public where every calf raise was questioned by 100's of journalists.
If he was under as much scrutiny as we would be, perhaps it may have broken him....like it has us.
Yep
He was
Training at Gold's Venice
The mecca of bodybuilding
One thing about the bloke was he was never shy of publicity. ;D
But the point is... If you're crap...acknowledge you're crap
Let folks know exactly where you stand ...because then they can see the progress.
We were benchless by the last qtr and lost most of them in the first half.
Williamson, Graham and Macreadie were done well before 1/2 time but I thought the team played quite well until very late in the 3rd term.
Of the other listed players:
- Phillips was very very good early and clearly out-pointed Leuenberger in the ruck contests but lack of interchange options meant that he and Lobbe both stayed on the field most of the game and he definitely faded.
- By comparison, Lobbe looked quite good against the Essendon 2nd and 3rd string ruckmen but was uncompetitive against Leuenberger.
- De Koning had very limited time in the ruck but already looks like a better key forward than McKay and Kerr did last year.
- Schumacher was not as impressive as he was against Frankston but still looks like a likely player.
- JGM has only improved very slightly since his first season
- Shaw has played more than 100 AFL games, which just goes to show how poor GC were - he belongs behind Mullett and O'Shea in the pecking order and some of his turnovers were very costly when the game was still close.
- Garlett looks the goods but does not work hard enough - especially when he doesn't have the ball
- Hard to believe Polson couldn't get more of the ball - I guess he was waiting for someone to give it to him b/c he didn't seem to want to try and get it himself
- SOJ can do some useful things in congested areas and seems to have decent endurance and work rate but he doesn't seem to have the speed to actually get to enough contests and certainly seems unable to separate himself from an opponent when playing forward-
Of the Preston lads:
- Penrith was noticeable with his speed and intensity, with and without the ball
- Palmer frequently got on his hands on the ball in marking contests and actually managed to hold on to several marks
- Blakey looks unfashionable but he doesn't lack for courage, intensity and daring
...or we need our own side at this level where results take a back seat to developing our youth to play at a senior level.
Interestingly at the 1/4 time huddle, it was Fraser, Bolton and Barker in deep conversation, moving the magnets around on the whiteboard and talking in whispers as they were doing it. I think CFC has a fairly significant influence on how we play in the twos
Northern Blues 3.4-22 4.5-29 8.6-54 8.7-55
Essendon 5.1-31 7.5-47 11.8-74 19.14-128
The last quarter was certainly bad. :( :( ::)
NORTHERN BLUES
Goal Kickers: J. Palmer 5, T. De Koning 2, A. Phillips
Best Players: J. Silvagni, J. Palmer, J. Hill, T. De Koning, A. Phillips, C. McCabe
Nice to see Josh Hill in the best for the 1st time.
ESSENDON
Goal Kickers: M. Brown 4, D. Younan 3, J. Green 2, A. Boyse 2, M. Leuenberger 2, J. Long, A. Heppell, T. Mynott, M. Redman, J. Houlahan, S. Draper
Best Players: A. Francis, M. Brown, D. Parish, A. Heppell, J. Sheahan, B. McNiece
Disappointing to see some real zeroes play good games against us. >:(
Interestingly at the 1/4 time huddle, it was Fraser, Bolton and Barker in deep conversation, moving the magnets around on the whiteboard and talking in whispers as they were doing it. I think CFC has a fairly significant influence on how we play in the twos
+1 I don't hear hawthorn complaining about box Hill holding them back.
We like to blame everything under the sun for why we struggle but ultimately it all comes down to two decades of haphazard management.
We wanted to be bold and it bit us badly.
Now we need to be bold for different reasons. Don't repeat the mistakes of the past, work hard at building what we have rather than looking externally for solutions. People will want to be part of a place that actually values people and solidarity where #United isn't just a slogan.
Yep
The "Northern Blues" is a Sporting Team...
But the "Carlton Reserves" is (or would be) a development squad, where they're working on certain aspects of their game and game plans.
If the wins come that's good...but if they don't there is still a point and purpose that the players can concentrate on and gain satisfaction from.
And the Preston players do what exactly?
I'm OK with managing players with injury and trying players in different roles with an eye to the senior team but I believe that winning games is every bit as important for confidence and development as anything else, and that winning should always be a priority.
And the Preston players do what exactly?
I'm OK with managing players with injury and trying players in different roles with an eye to the senior team but I believe that winning games is every bit as important for confidence and development as anything else, and that winning should always be a priority.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
I think we see it even in our senior team....sides are selected with an eye to development rather than the win.
I coach in another sport and I'll use competitions with my young athletes to give them different experiences and development opportunities, with absolutely no thought to winning.
But I don't disagree that the wining experience is also important.
But I don't disagree that the wining experience is also important.
I'll go so far as to say that one of the biggest hurdles we have to jump as a club is to discard a losing mentality which has become ingrained, and that this mentality extends to supporters as well.
Plenty of people are happy with last night's result, but the game was there for the taking.
Williamson, Graham and Macreadie were done well before 1/2 time but I thought the team played quite well until very late in the 3rd term.
Of the other listed players:
- Phillips was very very good early and clearly out-pointed Leuenberger in the ruck contests but lack of interchange options meant that he and Lobbe both stayed on the field most of the game and he definitely faded.
- By comparison, Lobbe looked quite good against the Essendon 2nd and 3rd string ruckmen but was uncompetitive against Leuenberger.
- De Koning had very limited time in the ruck but already looks like a better key forward than McKay and Kerr did last year.
- Schumacher was not as impressive as he was against Frankston but still looks like a likely player.
- JGM has only improved very slightly since his first season
- Shaw has played more than 100 AFL games, which just goes to show how poor GC were - he belongs behind Mullett and O'Shea in the pecking order and some of his turnovers were very costly when the game was still close.
- Garlett looks the goods but does not work hard enough - especially when he doesn't have the ball
- Hard to believe Polson couldn't get more of the ball - I guess he was waiting for someone to give it to him b/c he didn't seem to want to try and get it himself
- SOJ can do some useful things in congested areas and seems to have decent endurance and work rate but he doesn't seem to have the speed to actually get to enough contests and certainly seems unable to separate himself from an opponent when playing forward-
Of the Preston lads:
- Penrith was noticeable with his speed and intensity, with and without the ball
- Palmer frequently got on his hands on the ball in marking contests and actually managed to hold on to several marks
- Blakey looks unfashionable but he doesn't lack for courage, intensity and daring
I like De Konning. He looks like he can be like the likes of Salmon, McKernan, Tippett (earlier on in his career), Hale etc, and play well as both a key forward and and ruck. Be a winner if he can turn out even close to a couple of those. Given McKay is on target to scoring 40 goals from his first 20 games, to be better would terrific.
Given McKay is on target to scoring 40 goals from his first 20 games, to be better would terrific.
Josh Kennedy scored 11 in his first 22 games......
Josh Kennedy scored 11 in his first 22 games......
A bloke called Fevola might have stolen some of his limelight though.
I'll go so far as to say that one of the biggest hurdles we have to jump as a club is to discard a losing mentality which has become ingrained, and that this mentality extends to supporters as well.
Plenty of people are happy with last night's result, but the game was there for the taking.
You won't get an argument from me about winning at senior level.
I can cop a 'reserves' side doing the development thing...that's what it's for, but I'm 100% with you in terms of producing the wins in the senior side
That's not to say we don't try players, a couple at a time, for the purpose of exposing them to the expectations when they reach that senior level.
And the Preston players do what exactly?
same thing they do at every other vfl team. Each club has a list of 42. At any given moment, five players are generally unavailable for selection be it injured, suspended or simply ruckman number 3, 4 or 5 (being conservative). add one listed emergency, and you have a maximum 17 odd players for a vfl team give or take a couple. That means 8 blokes come from nowhere to fill in the rest.
I'm OK with managing players with injury and trying players in different roles with an eye to the senior team but I believe that winning games is every bit as important for confidence and development as anything else, and that winning should always be a priority.
I don't disagree with any of that, but we are hardly picking our side most likely to win at AFL level and have one eye firmly on the future.
I don't disagree with any of that, but we are hardly picking our side most likely to win at AFL level and have one eye firmly on the future.
Who would we promote from the VFL if we were picking teams to win?
The side we had on the park last night against Geelong was very close to the best we had available.
Who would we promote from the VFL if we were picking teams to win?
The side we had on the park last night against Geelong was very close to the best we had available.
Not so much now, but we have gone with other players instead of kerridge and Graham.
Mullet might have been the difference between winning and losing instead of Cunningham.
Patrick Kerr or jack Silvagni?
We don't have many mature aged players who are more likely to hold their own than kids but when the decision is there to be made we are choosing youth as a priority.
Not so much now, but we have gone with other players instead of kerridge and Graham.
Mullet might have been the difference between winning and losing instead of Cunningham.
Patrick Kerr or jack Silvagni?
We don't have many mature aged players who are more likely to hold their own than kids but when the decision is there to be made we are choosing youth as a priority.
Kerridge, Graham, Rowe, O'Shea and Mullet all played against Melbourne.
- SOJ can do some useful things in congested areas and seems to have decent endurance and work rate but he doesn't seem to have the speed to actually get to enough contests and certainly seems unable to separate himself from an opponent when playing forward-
What was the break down percentage wise for Silvagni midfield/forward
Kerridge, Graham, Rowe, O'Shea and Mullet all played against Melbourne.
Rowe and o Shea are still playing and everyone on this forum thought Graham was one of our better players last week. He got dropped anyway.
Rowe and o Shea are still playing and everyone on this forum thought Graham was one of our better players last week. He got dropped anyway.
Hopefully Kerridge and O'Shea aren't far behind him.
What was the break down percentage wise for Silvagni midfield/forward
Probably 80% midfield
Probably 80% midfield
Interesting. How does he perform in the midfield RR, and do you think he would be ready yet for a senior gig in the midfield?
Interesting. How does he perform in the midfield RR, and do you think he would be ready yet for a senior gig in the midfield?
He might have to, the word I have is that Cripps is 50/50 for the 6 day break.
But SoJ is miles away, I had hoped that he might be able to tag the out of form Kennedy, but Kennedy came good this week with 23 CP!
Trying to turn Soj into a midfielder when we are light on for forwards is basically saying you need to make it as a mid because you are not good enough as a forward.
Trying to turn Soj into a midfielder when we are light on for forwards is basically saying you need to make it as a mid because you are not good enough as a forward.
I guess it comes back to the argument about whether our greatest deficiency is in the forwards or midfield.
Scoring is dependent on both,
The midfielders to get it in and find targets.
The forwards to get it and convert.
5-15 wont win you too many.
Trying to turn Soj into a midfielder when we are light on for forwards is basically saying you need to make it as a mid because you are not good enough as a forward.
And maybe that's the reality. Funny how he seems to be hitting the scoreboard more as a mid than as a forward... He's still early in his 'midfield career' which I reckon we should factor into any judgments.
And maybe that's the reality. Funny how he seems to be hitting the scoreboard more as a mid than as a forward... He's still early in his 'midfield career' which I reckon we should factor into any judgments.
Agree. Without trying to pre-judge, let's fully and expertly evaluate where he can make the most effective contribution to our future - he is young and time is on his side. We don't want to die wondering.
And maybe that's the reality. Funny how he seems to be hitting the scoreboard more as a mid than as a forward... He's still early in his 'midfield career' which I reckon we should factor into any judgments.
Still early in his career period.
Biggest issue is that he goes to ground too easy.
I reckon he'll make it, and is a jack of all trades sort of player. Needs to become that link man between midfield and forward.
The thing we should remember about SoJ is that his grandfather, Serge, was one of the original big bodied mid-fielders. Serge also started as a forward.
Interesting. How does he perform in the midfield RR, and do you think he would be ready yet for a senior gig in the midfield?
Good hands and good use of the body when the ball falls to him but he has a bit of learning to do to have a greater impact in the clearances.
Good hands and good use of the body when the ball falls to him but he has a bit of learning to do to have a greater impact in the clearances.
Fisher chased Cripps around all summer, that seems to have really helped him. Could be Cripps becomes the target over this summer for both Jack and Matthew Kennedy. When you consider what a beast Cripps has become, it is a good measure of their progress.
Still early in his career period.
Biggest issue is that he goes to ground too easy.
I reckon he'll make it, and is a jack of all trades sort of player. Needs to become that link man between midfield and forward.
Biggest issue is his lack of pace.
If he was 2 yards quicker he would be playing forward in the ones
Biggest issue is his lack of pace.
If he was 2 yards quicker he would be playing forward in the ones
Nah, pace is overated. Its not about how quickly you can cover the ground, but how quickly you can get moving.
Good hands and good use of the body when the ball falls to him but he has a bit of learning to do to have a greater impact in the clearances.
Thanks RR. Sounds like he has something to work with but needs a bit more development and more experience in the role. I know he's not quick but if he's playing at the coalface maybe that's not as important as if he were trying to become a breakaway mid - Cripps doesn't exactly burn up the turf but he is elusive and very hard to drag down, and often breaks out of attempted tackles to give the ball off effectively.
Nah, pace is overated. Its not about how quickly you can cover the ground, but how quickly you can get moving.
Even more than physical speed, it's how quickly you think about what to do and then how quickly you act on those thoughts!
This comes about by practice and knowing, which is why I fear our future due to the lack of quality role models.
Learn bad habits and they will be very difficult to change, good or bad habits become second nature.
Good hands and good use of the body when the ball falls to him but he has a bit of learning to do to have a greater impact in the clearances.
Like many of our kids ball use is a big problem, he was getting it enough at Frankston but his disposal and decision making was deplorable! Hardly a kick hit a target! You can get away with that, but only if you are like Cripps on the other stats!
Nah, pace is overated. Its not about how quickly you can cover the ground, but how quickly you can get moving.
You need to have at least one trick.
As a medium small forward you need to have great pressure if you are only going to touch the ball 9-10 times.
I like the item of playing him as an inside mid. He needs to build a massive tank and get to more contests.
You need to have at least one trick.
As a medium small forward you need to have great pressure if you are only going to touch the ball 9-10.
I like the item of playing him as an inside mid. He needs to build a massive tank and get to more contest.
SoJ has plenty of tricks, for me it's about execution and experience, he's miles away from being a viable AFL inside midfield option!
SoJ has plenty of tricks, for me it's about execution and experience, he's miles away from being a viable AFL inside midfield option!
As a forward what tricks are those?
He actually shows a bit as a inside mid.
"Jack Silvagni
Stats: 20 disposals, 8 clearances, 6 tackles, 3 goals
From the coach: Jack did a lot of work as an inside midfielder, and won a fair chunk of contested ball (14 contested possessions) in difficult conditions and against an experienced midfield. He also used the ball well and finished off effectively in front of goal to finish with three majors."
14 contested, 8 clearances. Not a bad start.
As a forward what tricks are those?
SoJ, along with Kerr, is clearly one of the smartest natural forwards we have. SoJ just doesn't have the physical attributes to naturally take advantage of it at AFL level. He leads in very smart patterns, but doesn't have the acceleration or top speed to give himself a break on a defender. He endures and persists, his repeat efforts are as good as any, but then lets himself down with disposal. His forward work rate is probably only matched by Wright. He has good vision and awareness, but not necessarily the required agility or skills to avoid tacklers and hit targets.
A lot of this will correct itself with age and experience.
As a forward what tricks are those?
He actually shows a bit as a inside mid.
"Jack Silvagni
Stats: 20 disposals, 8 clearances, 6 tackles, 3 goals
From the coach: Jack did a lot of work as an inside midfielder, and won a fair chunk of contested ball (14 contested possessions) in difficult conditions and against an experienced midfield. He also used the ball well and finished off effectively in front of goal to finish with three majors."
14 contested, 8 clearances. Not a bad start.
He has good nous and good agility. He's a worker too. If he builds that tank he will become valuable. His goal assist to McKay was exquisite. Neat side step, sold some candy and then delivery to advantage of McKay is a real standout of our goals this season.
Jack's major help will be the various roles he can play and will be a Simon white type in future. He won't be your star but I believe the term good ordinary will be best to describe him
You can't teach desire. Cunningham has him covered for talent but Jsos has him covered as a career footballer at this stage.
He has good nous and good agility. He's a worker too. If he builds that tank he will become valuable. His goal assist to McKay was exquisite. Neat side step, sold some candy and then delivery to advantage of McKay is a real standout of our goals this season.
Jack's major help will be the various roles he can play and will be a Simon white type in future. He won't be your star but I believe the term good ordinary will be best to describe him
You can't teach desire. Cunningham has him covered for talent but Jsos has him covered as a career footballer at this stage.
Don't agree with the part on bold.
The agility we discuss is not about lateral movements in open space, basically running in a straight line and timing a side step with a lot of space and time to prepare. The agility he needs as an inside mid is about getting to multiple contests, twisting and turning in a small space and a short period of time with little or no time to react. Laying tackle after tackle, blocking, smoothers inside are not SoJ strength, he is relatively poor compared to the likes of Cripps or Fisher. SoJ commits when he is coincident with the contest and the ball, but he is not good at getting to where the ball is. If Cripps of Fisher are on the wrong side of the contest they find a way to get to the ball, SoJ not so much! But give him time he'll come good because as you mention he has smarts!
You can't teach desire. Cunningham has him covered for talent but Jsos has him covered as a career footballer at this stage.
Don't confuse 'talent' and speed.
That's the only area Cuners betters SOJ imo.
And as we've seen without many a fine athlete, it ain't enough at the elite level.
Desire and smarts a far more useful combination!
I like the item of playing him as an inside mid. He needs to build a massive tank and get to more contest.
Agreed.
You need to have at least one trick.
As a medium small forward you need to have great pressure if you are only going to touch the ball 9-10 times.
I like the item of playing him as an inside mid. He needs to build a massive tank and get to more contest.
I agree. SOJ has the football nous to be an effective inside mid but he has a bit of work to do before he can replicate his VFL stats at AFL level.
We're not really missing him in the forward line and we desperately need more grunt in the midfield. It's bad luck that his midfield potential wasn't seized on during the pre-season.
Jack needs to improve his disposal by foot and get a left side too if he is going to play midfield....
A midfield group consisting of Cripps, Jack, Kennedy is a very slow group to be around the ball.
Cripps is a grader and a bull so he can get away with it, but we will be shown up if the other 2 only make it as B graders.
Jack and Kennedy must be turn onto elite ball user and and elite inside the contest otherwise it wont work.
Will get murdered on the outside when we don't have the ball so need to use it exceptionally well when we have it to outweigh the negative.
Jack needs to improve his disposal by foot and get a left side too if he is going to play midfield....
Agreed, it'll be too easy to negate him at AFL level.
They'll just tell some mid-sized super fit athlete type to stay on his left and push him right.
A midfield group consisting of Cripps, Jack, Kennedy is a very slow group to be around the ball.
Cripps is a grader and a bull so he can get away with it, but we will be shown up if the other 2 only make it as B graders.
Jack and Kennedy must be turn onto elite ball user and and elite inside the contest otherwise it wont work.
Will get murdered on the outside when we don't have the ball so need to use it exceptionally well when we have it to outweigh the negative.
That's true, however at this stage Jack and Kennedy are far from locks. If one out of the two turned into a really good midfielder that would be a good result.
I'm more and more liking De Konning. Not many play key forward and ruck both well but he seems to be able to do that thus far. Paul Salmon, Corey McKernan and even David Hale types are such a bonus. Hope he turns out somewhere even remotely close to those players, especially the first two once he develops more physically. He might get tried late in the year for a bit of experience if he keeps going.
"Tom De Koning
Stats: 10 disposals, 4 marks, 2 goals
From the coach: Tom kicked 2.1 including a couple of strong marks in the air. As a young tall, he’s developing his leading patterns as a key forward really well, and his second efforts at ground level were really impressive. We liked his game on the weekend, particularly his first half."
"Jack Silvagni
Stats: 22 disposals, 7 tackles, 6 inside 50s, 4 clearances
From the coach: The plan was to play as both a midfielder and forward, but like Cam Polson he ended up playing more in the middle due to injuries. He was really good around stoppages and in contested ball, while he used drive in his legs to get out of stoppages and congested situations while using the ball really well in general play."
"Jack Silvagni
Stats: 22 disposals, 7 tackles, 6 inside 50s, 4 clearances
From the coach: The plan was to play as both a midfielder and forward, but like Cam Polson he ended up playing more in the middle due to injuries. He was really good around stoppages and in contested ball, while he used drive in his legs to get out of stoppages and congested situations while using the ball really well in general play."
Dad had that strength through the hips and legs ;)
Dad had that strength through the hips and legs ;)
Granddad did that pretty well too.
Granddad did that pretty well too.
Probably a better example to the mid-field Jack.
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Not a nice story.