10 goal win.
No injuries.
Take that every week.
Where is everyone ? Good news really is bad for business.
I think people are still in disbelief of the first half
Dominated most statistical indicators, and I believe our tally today of 87 tackles is a season high. We may well end up with a clean sweep of the Coaches' votes.
We won!
We needed the percentage again after the draw Friday night.
I thought Jack did really well in the ruck today.
We lost the hit-outs by heaps, and it may not stand up in the coming weeks, but we mightn't have an alterantive to the Young/Silvagni combo
Jack jumped high a couple of times over the top of them, and made some really good follow up efforts.
He was much more effective around the ground than the Hawk rucks who are "one trick" ponies.
He also had 10 score involvements.
More importantly the interaction between him and Voss at the end of the game seemed to indicate that they were both happy with his efforts.
I thought Jack did really well in the ruck today.
We lost he hit-outs by heaps, and it may not stand up in the coming weeks, but we mightn't have an alterantive to the Young/Silvagni combo
Jack jumped high a couple of times over the top of them, and made some really good follow up efforts.
He was much more effective around the ground than the Hawk rucks who are "one trick" ponies.
He also had 10 score involvements.
More importantly the interaction between him and Voss at the end of the game seemed to indicate that they were both happy with his efforts.
I just did an analysis of that in the Pittonet thread.
Best ruck out there today.....including the hawks blokes.
Where is everyone ? Good news really is bad for business.
Me, myself, I wondered that at the in-game thread 😆
Dominated most statistical indicators, and I believe our tally today of 87 tackles is a season high. We may well end up with a clean sweep of the Coaches' votes.
That never gets old. Hope it dominates the fickle media.
I was hoping the headline would be "No post bye Blues"
I thought Jack did really well in the ruck today.
We lost he hit-outs by heaps, and it may not stand up in the coming weeks, but we mightn't have an alterantive to the Young/Silvagni combo
Jack jumped high a couple of times over the top of them, and made some really good follow up efforts.
He was much more effective around the ground than the Hawk rucks who are "one trick" ponies.
He also had 10 score involvements.
More importantly the interaction between him and Voss at the end of the game seemed to indicate that they were both happy with his efforts.
Jack's best game in yonks. Maybe the bye and the spell in the 2's did the trick.
A win is a win and it was an even contribution today but the next two weeks is where it's at for me in terms of judging where we are at.
Thought Martin had his best game since his first game for us and Kemp is turning into a nice footballer down back.
Fogarty has also lifted the work rate down forward and has been unfairly treated over the journey in terms of selection.
Weitering should get off his charge, not sure what he was thinking but Meek got up so impact must have been low.
Cerra was my BOG....
Unfortunately I think the media may focus on Weitering being reported for a hit on the ruckman (I think)
I wonder if it was #22Nathan WA Wilkinson that reported him. Might conveniently see him miss v Freo 😎 (navy lenses)
Did anyone see it?
If Dees beat Giants, we're in the prestigious 13th spot
Hawthorn’s impotent opening half on Sunday created unwanted history, failing to kick a goal to half-time of a match at the MCG for just the second time. The only other time the Hawks were goalless at that stage of a match at the home of Australian football was against Melbourne in round 17, 1927, which was their third season in the competition. :)
I know we had the game won in the last and that the blokes probably didn’t have much in the tank, but I was frustrated by the ball use. We went back to slowing the ball movement and kicking to contests, and it failed much more than it worked out. There weren’t players presenting, or if they did they aborted when the kicker took so long to move. That has consistently failed over the past couple of months. Better to go sideways to an unmanned teammate than kick ahead to a 50/50
A good win but should’ve probably been more comprehensive.
There is still so much indecision and thankfully for us the Hawks didn’t tighten up on us continuously so we got out of it. You can see why the good teams can roll us, when we’re indecisive we waste time and we make silly errors (putting someone under pressure with a crap handball) - the really good sides make us pay for that.
Overall of course happy for the win but nothing left me in breathless rapture about the play - last year I recall a number of games where I was in disbelief that this was MY Carlton team - in a good way! This game had a few passages where I thought yes go go go for it mainly to be oh… stopping, slowing it down… or turnover. And gee don’t opposition get a fast return when we miss on our end - a few times we got a point to their goal within what felt like 10 seconds.
And the misses of Charlie and Harry were frustrating too.
Yes a 10 goal win and of course I’ll take that but like GITC we will see more in the next few weeks. I hope it’s positive.
JSOS I thought was fanatic today and if the pictures of the end of the game say anything it seems the boys and Voss are really tight.
I know we had the game won in the last and that the blokes probably didn’t have much in the tank, but I was frustrated by the ball use. We went back to slowing the ball movement and kicking to contests, and it failed much more than it worked out. There weren’t players presenting, or if they did they aborted when the kicker took so long to move. That has consistently failed over the past couple of months. Better to go sideways to an unmanned teammate than kick ahead to a 50/50
Unfortunately that happens with most sides when a game is essentially gone by half time.
A win is a win and it was an even contribution today but the next two weeks is where it's at for me in terms of judging where we are at.
Definitely. Importantly, we are playing committed footy again. That can only help.
Did what we had to do. Flattest 67,000 fans you would ever hear.
30m out directly in front, McKay goes the across the body kick and doesn't make the distance.
FFS, this is beyond a joke !!
This will cost us in a close important game, end that crap now !!
30m out directly in front, McKay goes the across the body kick and doesn't make the distance.
FFS, this is beyond a joke !!
This will cost us in a close important game, end that crap now !!
And in terms of the positives from the match....
And in terms of the positives from the match....
He doesn't really do positives...
Where is everyone ? Good news really is bad for business.
190kg of salami meat to process in two days, just finished, heard we won, Ill watch the game during the week.
10 goal win.
No injuries.
Take that every week.
Thanks, kruddler, for setting up the thread. I forgot to do it before I left.
Jack's best game in yonks. Maybe the bye and the spell in the 2's did the trick.
Have to agree. Jack's disposal, which was terrible before he was dropped, was much superior today. He didn't fumble as much and he fought like a terrier at the ruck contests. Probably his best game for the season.
Did what we had to do. Flattest 67,000 fans you would ever hear.
Indeed. I was amazed at the numbers. Must have been a lot of hawks: they were amazingly quiet. Liked it that way. More noise for us would have been nice.
30m out directly in front, McKay goes the across the body kick and doesn't make the distance.
FFS, this is beyond a joke !!
This will cost us in a close important game, end that crap now !!
That was a shocker, but his goal from the boundary in the last was superior.
And in terms of the positives from the match....
The positive is we spanked them !!
I just can't let that kicking aspect of the game go, its been a problem all year and there is no end in sight. We need to get that rectified before it costs us dearly. It was a really embarrassing moment in what was a very pleasing game.
I was a bit worried when Charlie was subbed out, but apparently he's been unwell for most of the week. Still a class above. Voss apparently decided to give him a rest with the game won.
14th with a bullet.
Harry's passing was my highlight for the day. I'm happy for him to stay outside 50 and set goals up.
Harry's passing was my highlight for the day. I'm happy for him to stay outside 50 and set goals up.
I think Harry, Charlie and Jack all had some terrific vision and passing today.
Sometimes i'd prefer they get a bit more selfish, but you can't argue with the result.
Where is everyone ? Good news really is bad for business.
Went to the game, then when I got home I watched it again. Wanted to soak it all in before getting on board here. I guess we were the favourites but who amongst us would've been that confident, especially after the out of TDK.
A lot to like. A bit of rubbish here and there. Still, nice to get the win and this will now be the 3rd week of NO Carlton bashing by the media.
Went to the game, then when I got home I watched it again. Wanted to soak it all in before getting on board here. I guess we were the favourites but who amongst us would've been that confident, especially after the out of TDK.
A lot to like. A bit of rubbish here and there. Still, nice to get the win and this will now be the 3rd week of NO Carlton bashing by the media.
I almost tipped against us.
Once upon a time this was the epitome of danger game. Crap but plucky opponent, post bye games are something we've struggled with.
I held my nerve and at the moment I'm living and dying on us which has cost me a 5 point lead in my tips. I'm down to one now thanks to us not getting the job done against Sydney and essendon.
Unfortunately I think the media may focus on Weitering being reported for a hit on the ruckman (I think)
I wonder if it was #22Nathan WA Wilkinson that reported him. Might conveniently see him miss v Freo 😎 (navy lenses)
Did anyone see it?
Only saw the vision on the Foxtel coverage. A bit blurry. Weitering was retaliating to a cheap shot by Meek. Looks like a blow to the throat rather than the head. Think that will be the line we use. Maybe a fine? Toss the coin
Cuningham is an important piece in our puzzle.
Cuningham is an important piece in our puzzle.
And I think Newman is an important in.
And I think Newman is an important in.
Played well all year and plays on the danger players more often than not.
I thought Newman got caught out of position a few times today, wasn't his best today. I thought Harry was much better today, wonder if the media will keep offering him up as draft bait after today
Cuningham is an important piece in our puzzle.
Cunningham, Martin, and Jack all played very important roles today.
We're able to execute the plan. Next step is to stay fit and string some games together 🤞
Crowd was very pleased - though todays win didnt mean all that much - felt the crowd felt the method to our gameplay is excellent.
Our defensive actions all game is A grade tbh - doesn;t matter it's against a bottom four side. They were trying to smash us on the outside and Mitchell got outcoached to smitherenes with the numbers around the ball.
They were trying to smash us on the outside and Mitchell got outcoached to smitherenes with the numbers around the ball.
I thought the only time they looked any good was when they collectively got on their bike, but they couldn't sustain it and even when they had the pill they used it poorly entering their F50.
The rest of the time Cripps, Cerra and Kennedy were claiming the front position at stoppages and couldn't be displaced, just too big and too strong.
Charlie had almost zero opposition.
BigH and our other forwards didn't have a lot of impact, Martin was probably our 2nd most influential forward he was much smarter than his opponents and very influential. Cunningham was also good early.
30m out directly in front, McKay goes the across the body kick and doesn't make the distance.
FFS, this is beyond a joke !!
AGAIN >:(
Cunningham, Martin, and Jack all played very important roles today.
We're able to execute the plan. Next step is to stay fit and string some games together 🤞
Yep. And so good to see JSOS hold his grabs - took some very strong and important marks.
Cunners adds so much 'silk' to our side and will only get better with more game time. He really seems to have developed beautifully under the Luke P tutelage... from 'cameo with potential' to a real weapon. And if Jack M can stay on the paddock he adds that X factor to our forwards with such good footy smarts... as have Cunners ...and JSOS (though I do worry about his future at the club).
IF we maintain this pressure around the aggott & opposition (great tackle count last two games), we'll threaten any side, along with our multiple goal kicking options/threats and solid (and mean) defensive unit.
I think one of the key things I have seen in the last two weeks has been the small forwards. Owies I think has done his job harassing all year but with Fogarty Martin and Cunningham tackling pressure has been greatly improved from the timid efforts of Motlop and Honey. Keeping the ball in the 50 but also not giving a clear and easy kick to opposition defenders is helping us create more opportunities. Fogarty especially has surprised me with his tackling and taste for the contest.
There are four actions which constitute a one percenter according to official AFL statistics: knock-ons, spoils, smothers, and shepherds.
Who leads our 1%ers this year?
The answer will surprise some.
It's Lewis Young, despite missing games.
He was the stat leader again yesterday.
Defenders (probably understandably) occupy the first five places.
Then comes Pitto, with Harry McKay the first forward.
Young 118
Weitering 101
McGovern 48
Saad 40
Newman 35
Pittonet 31
McKay 30
Kemp would be right up there on averages per game.
There are four actions which constitute a one percenter according to official AFL statistics: knock-ons, spoils, smothers, and shepherds.
Who leads our 1%ers this year?
The answer will surprise some.
It's Lewis Young, despite missing games.
He was the stat leader again yesterday.
Young was less effective than Silvagni in the ruck contests but he played a useful role by adding his defensive presence after contesting the centre bounces.
Generally speaking, ALL defenders played very well as a team - although they were under much more pressure in the 3rd quarter when the midfield pressure fell away.
Who leads our 1%ers this year?
The answer will surprise some.
Not really, if you are a KPD who by default chooses to spoil you will be naturally high on this ranking, there are only two possible options spoil or mark, so as a KPD the less marks you go for the more spoils you must have!
I suppose Young versus other KPDs is a valid comparison.
The first non-Defender in the AFL list is Bont at #41.
AFL OPs (https://www.afl.com.au/stats/leaders?category=General+Play&seasonId=52&roundId=-1&roundNumber=0&sortColumn=onePercenters&sortDirection=descending&positions=All&teams=All&benchmarking=false&dataType=totals&playerOneId=null&playerTwoId=null)
In terms of teams the club with the most OPs is Wet Toast, I suppose because they are always 2nd to the pill and as such spoiling stats and smothers are probably through the roof!
That was a shocker, but his goal from the boundary in the last was superior.
Agree, but overall Big H had one of his best games for us. He chased, tackled, got others into the game.
Best cure for kicking yips is to get yourself involved in the 1%ers. Keep making yourself valuable in the rest of your game and the kicking will come.
Let's not get carried away, the KPFs made a good contribution but the reality is the Dawks had nobody to stand either Charlie or BigH, it was immediately obvious from the first bounce. The Dawk fan sitting next to me turned and said "We're screwed", about 60s into the game!
Adding to that, when our Mids and HBs are willing to hit up blokes likes Martin, Owies or Cunningham it makes the opposition defenders job even harder!
Interesting hearing Voss in the post match say that at half time they celebrated the Hawks measly 5 points more than our own score.
Coaches' votes :
10 Adam Cerra (CARL)
5 Sam Walsh (CARL)
5 Jacob Weitering (CARL)
5 Harry McKay (CARL)
3 Blake Acres (CARL)
2 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
Interesting hearing Voss in the post match say that at half time they celebrated the Hawks measly 5 points more than our own score.
I have to admit, our team defence has been miserly whilst the HB flankers and mids have taken the game on with much flare. Voss will be very proud of this so once we can execute that against the better teams, we will be hard to play against (which is all you can ask of your players).
Good game. Lots of our guys played well. While our opposition wasn't much - we buried them and won convincingly, but no need to get carried away.
Good signs and work ethic, now to replicate this for the rest of the season.
(Dwayne seemed to have the JSOS love going on)
Coaches' votes :
10 Adam Cerra (CARL)
5 Sam Walsh (CARL)
5 Jacob Weitering (CARL)
5 Harry McKay (CARL)
3 Blake Acres (CARL)
2 Patrick Cripps (CARL)
I'm a bit surprised there is not much love for Charlie this week, although between Charlie and Cunningham their work was pretty much done in the first 5 minutes of the game, that is when it was over and the outcome decided.
Watching live you get to appreciate Acres run, it's a pity he doesn't have an extra yard of pace.
Cripps was enormous, in combination with Cerra they are very formidable, especially when they combine to attack the footy in waves, Kennedy and Walsh did a lot of stoppage grunt work. It was a slightly different role for Walsh this week, not sure if that was our doing or the Dawks, but it seemed to suit Walsh.
But the Dawks are not a great test they are so small and light, they turned the footy over horribly, this week will be much better.
Funny game this one, usually always after watching the replay I'm clear on who should get votes, but hardly anybody played 4-qtrs while several players had outstanding single qtrs.
Maybe Cerra was the only one who went close to a 4-qtr performance, but even he had an extended quiet patch. I said to the people I was sitting with that I hate this about modern football, they way we looked to be preserving momentum/energy for the next game by about 5 mins into the 3rd Qtr, I'm not sure the flag favourites do that, it's a 10th spot on the ladder trait. Am I unfair?
I can't imagine Voss ever doing that, he was more the grind them into dust type.
So far I can't work out who to vote for, I think the coaches votes show you how weird it was!