I find these Post Game threads the hardest to start, not knowing what the future may hold.
Whatever happens, I hope to see Eddie Betts in the goals. He hasn't kicked many of late. (He hasn't kicked any for 4 weeks!)
i don't want to see the long bombs into fwd 50 with gc marking interceptions and away they go / but then we have gone tall
7.18, WOW. Could have made some serious % gains. Ugly game, wins a win. Not much else to say.
deleted
25 shots. Highest for the year beating the 16.7 against the Dogs.
Pity this time it was 18 behinds.
It was a must win game.
We won.
Next.
Gotta feeling this thread won't be as long as the last one. Extremely happy to finally watch a game where I wasn't going into cardiac arrest but at the same time the frustration was intense. Probably the only time this year where I won't be watching the replay either.
Go Blues
Perhaps one thing I'll add, did Spanner ring Murph and give him a rocket? ;D 28 disp, 75% eff, 5 clearances, BOG for mine.
Gotta feeling this thread won't be as long as the last one. Extremely happy to finally watch a game where I wasn't going into cardiac arrest but at the same time the frustration was intense. Probably the only time this year where I won't be watching the replay either.
Go Blues
Watch a replay of the 1970 Grand Final to get you in the mood for Pies next week. >:D
Gotta feeling this thread won't be as long as the last one. Extremely happy to finally watch a game where I wasn't going into cardiac arrest but at the same time the frustration was intense. Probably the only time this year where I won't be watching the replay either.
Go Blues
Not hanging out to watch the 1.7 last qtr?
Should this site be renamed 'THE CRITICISE CARLTON CLUB'? or 'THE BAGGERS CLUB'? So many negative thoughts. We are supposed to be SUPPORTERS for God's sake,
Aren't they auctioning the jumpers....I think we're missing one ;D ;D ;D ;D
Gotta feeling this thread won't be as long as the last one. Extremely happy to finally watch a game where I wasn't going into cardiac arrest but at the same time the frustration was intense. Probably the only time this year where I won't be watching the replay either.
Go Blues
And we won on a Friday night.
deleted
It was a must win game.
We won.
Next.
Never in doubt. 😎
Murphy awesome. Was critical last week. Played exactly what was required tonight.
The rancour should be reserved for when we don't win, not when we do.
Nite sports fans
We are at least a two or three goal better team with Jack Martin in.
Don’t think we have played well since the bulldogs game yet we sit 9th with a decent percentage.
Have a ton of upside. Nice to be this far into the season and still have a flame burning.
Wasnt pretty and should have been a much bigger win based on shots at goal but we did what we had to do and got the 4 points. That’s what good sides do. That’s what we could never do.
I’m happy and starting to get a little bit excited.
Go blues.
Once I saw Murf run out I knew we would win, he set it up in the first with some beautiful disposals.
We are at least a two or three goal better team with Jack Martin in.
Yep. I admit I was wrong on him. A very good pick up. Clean nice mover who users it well.
I’m a fan.
In some ways he plays how I would have hoped sps would by this point. He has been one who has stagnated to say the least.
Tough conditions, as I said in the pre-game thread playing in Darwin in the evening, in 78° Humidity and 27°C, is like playing in the wet even worse than the wet.
Most of our old blokes lead the way, Murphy(Probably BoG set us on the right path to win), Simmo(Always hard at it, conditions suit his game, win footy kick footy.), Plowman, Ed Curnow, nice hands from Casboult, McKay and De Koning, big hands help of course. Thought Betts was OK, but not as bad as they make out, and showed some very clever skills.
Walsh, another step forward tonight.
Tonight were conditions and a game in which attack at the football wins, and we led them to the football and hit contests as hard as I've seen from us!
Good returning game from Martin, probably Fisher's best game for a year or two, I worry that he might not be around long, he looked to be arguing with the cockroach at 3/4-time.
Defence was up against kids but they did what they had to, Also nice hands from Weitering and Jones, not that the game was won or lost in our D50. GCS had most of their main mids in and we smashed them in the midfield. Haven't seen the stats but I assume we had a big percentage of our time forward of center. Probably the scoreboard is the biggest disappointment, it could easily have been a 10 goal win.
It was interesting to see Murphy giving the players a bit of a rev up before the game. Clearly he is more respected by his teammates than by some supporters - and I use that term advisedly.
It was a good win but we should be able bury poor opposition. Goal kicking continues to be a problem and we should have had >10 goals on the scoreboard.
In some ways he plays how I would have hoped sps would by this point.
Agreed, I think we need to release the shackles on SPS for a couple of weeks to see what he can really do, esp as the team is playing quite well.
Can someone check in on Spanner please ?
I read that Murphy has resigned for 2021.
Can someone check in on Spanner please ?
I read that Murphy has resigned for 2021.
That'd be re-signed wouldn't it, maybe 2022 as well? :D
Can someone check in on Spanner please ?
I read that Murphy has resigned for 2021.
Now we only need Gibbs to return.
Now we only need Gibbs to return.
That would throw a spanner in the works.
The conditions provided more competition than Gold Coast who were like a high school team. Kudos to Gibbons,Murphy, Newnes and De Koning who kick started the win.
Defense was solid and Cripps, Martin, Walsh and Setterfield built on the good start.
Good win and now onto Collingwood..
🤣🤣
We started well and played 4q. That was pleasing. Won all the important contests in the air and ground. 50+ i50 wins most games. Harry marked everything but couldn't finish. Eddie couldn't mark but contributed otherwise. I understand the conditions were hot, humid, and slippery. But 7 18 😖 I hope that excessive inaccuracy doesn't come back to bite us. Surely that's skill not conditions.
I thought our captains, Murph, Simmo, Newnes, Casboult, and Ed came through at important times. Gibbons is ever consistent and so smart.
Our backs look the goods, albeit against young fwds. Weiters is consistently performing like the star we hoped we'd drafted.
Our youngsters are looking settled and it seems there's semblance of team balance.
In all it was a scrappy affair, but one we never looked like losing. That's progress.
The conditions provided more competition than Gold Coast who were like a high school team. Kudos to Gibbons,Murphy, Newnes and De Koning who kick started the win.
Defense was solid and Cripps, Martin, Walsh and Setterfield built on the good start.
Good win and now onto Collingwood..
MInus Sidebottom which is handy
A week can be a long time in football, but Jack Newnes actually looked like he belonged, he played with more flair and intensity and showed further glimpses of why we grabbed him. Mature body, experience, has some pace and has a few tricks. The players around him obviously have confidence in him, and his confidence in himself is growing now too.
A week can be a long time in football, but Jack Newnes actually looked like he belonged, he played with more flair and intensity and showed further glimpses of why we grabbed him. Mature body, experience, has some pace and has a few tricks. The players around him obviously have confidence in him, and his confidence in himself is growing now too.
Good point, I think the whole team has grown in confidence of late. The preparedness to take the game at all costs looks mores aggressive to me as opposed to timid and unsure. Sure, some mistakes occur and turnovers occur but what I like more is that we can stop the oppo from scoring from those TO's. The defence was rock solid last night aided by the mid. Dare I say but LJ-Weiters-Plow-Doc-Willo-SPS-Simmo is a formidable backline, miserly even. Premierships are won off the back of gun defences.
Can Harry go off and learn how to kick for goal.
His preparation is poor and reeks of laziness or cockyness.
I have zero confidence when he is lining up, I'd rather Casboult kicking and that's saying something.
And we found out he has no right foot.
Fev was 120% invested in concentration at the goal whereas Harry, mmmmm???
Wheres Fev as a specialist coach?
Sometimes it's hard to reconcile 4 points with the spectacle you've just witnessed. Gold Coast were little more than witches hats in the main. A rather sloppy, amateurish, bruise free game to be honest.
Betts started the season like a house on fire, sucked me in to admitting my doubts on him were wrong, then nothing. Looks shot. DeKoning looks very promising. Fisher looks lively, speedy, and a real threat around goals. Walsh and Cripps were good, apart from the latter's goal kicking.
Can Harry go off and learn how to kick for goal.
His preparation is poor and reeks of laziness or cockyness.
I have zero confidence when he is lining up, I'd rather Casboult kicking and that's saying something.
And we found out he has no right foot.
Fev was 120% invested in concentration at the goal whereas Harry, mmmmm???
Wheres Fev as a specialist coach?
Go back and watch it again.
When Harry misses, he is within 1m of the goals.
When Levi misses, he is lucky to get within 10m of the goals.
Harry is a very good set shot and gives it every chance. If the goals were 1m wider, he'd have 5.
Plenty of others i'd criticise for their kicking before i point at harry.
Sometimes it's hard to reconcile 4 points with the spectacle you've just witnessed. Gold Coast were little more than witches hats in the main. A rather sloppy, amateurish, bruise free game to be honest.
Betts started the season like a house on fire, sucked me in to admitting my doubts on him were wrong, then nothing. Looks shot. DeKoning looks very promising. Fisher looks lively, speedy, and a real threat around goals. Walsh and Cripps were good, apart from the latter's goal kicking.
When you are a 33yo who prides himself on pressure, and you are forced to play a condensed season....but still keep up that pressure.....you will start to see a drop off in form.
IF, and i hope we do, IF we make finals, i hope we give him a rest leading into them because he can still tear a game apart when given the opportunity.
One thing i'll say in regard to eddie...we need to stop targetting him going inside 50 with long bombs. Martin is one who bombs on his head frequently. He will always be the smallest bloke in the contest and bombing on his head is not doing him any favours.
Bomb it on a key forwards head instead. Eddie will get more benefits from it that way.
Go back and watch it again.
When Harry misses, he is within 1m of the goals.
When Levi misses, he is lucky to get within 10m of the goals.
Harry is a very good set shot and gives it every chance. If the goals were 1m wider, he'd have 5.
Plenty of others i'd criticise for their kicking before i point at harry.
Harry did one field kick out near the wing and it was the laziest kick you will see, went about 10m and he laid back on it and it slid of the boot at about 30 degrees.
There is work to be done on his kicking imo.. Ditto with Martin who also lays back on his kicks for goal, started the season well but just of late is having this problem.
Betts may not be contributing goals. But he's more than worth his spot.
His pressure is amongst the best (if not the best) in the forward line.
While he may not be kicking the goals himself his actions are creating opportunities.
He's ranked =7th in the league for goal assists this season
Most importantly he's a player the opposition cant afford to ignore so he commands attention which takes a bit of pressure off others.
When he's near the ball the opposition defenders would still be very nervous.
Betts was good value last night but his brain was in 4th gear about his next evasive move before taking a couple of marks in a more relaxed 1st.
That's maybe the happiest Carlton side I've seen a quite a while after a win.
Interesting to hear Nick R and Johnno B talking about Eddie post game. They said he should now focus more on kicking goals and a bit less on pressure acts to be more effective and entertaining for us .
Interesting to hear Nick R and Johnno B talking about Eddie post game. They said he should now focus more on kicking goals and a bit less on pressure acts to be more effective and entertaining for us .
Eddie is #1 all time in goal assists.
Whether he kicks them or not, he brings teammates into the game. We are playing as unselfish a brand of football as i've seen from this club for the past 20 years. Don't change it.
Betts was good value last night but his brain was in 4th gear about his next evasive move before taking a couple of marks in a more relaxed 1st.
That's maybe the happiest Carlton side I've seen a quite a while after a win.
Love Crippas "The Blues are back!" comment as he walked into the change rooms. Tells me he (as a leader) was very satisfied with the way his team played (maybe accuracy in front of goal aside).
Eddie is #1 all time in goal assists.
Whether he kicks them or not, he brings teammates into the game. We are playing as unselfish a brand of football as i've seen from this club for the past 20 years. Don't change it.
Agree, part of the education process for the younguns.
And we won on a Friday night.
First time since 2014, with a hell of a lot of failures in between. I'll take that, thank you!
Murphy awesome. Was critical last week. Played exactly what was required tonight.
His most complete game for some time. Very happy with his performance. Most of the mids had good contributions.
Can Harry go off and learn how to kick for goal.
His preparation is poor and reeks of laziness or cockyness.
I have zero confidence when he is lining up, I'd rather Casboult kicking and that's saying something.
And we found out he has no right foot.
Fev was 120% invested in concentration at the goal whereas Harry, mmmmm???
Wheres Fev as a specialist coach?
Fev learnt the hard way. he was very ordinary for the first couple of seasons. But when he got it right, he really got it right. The concentration and the confidence were there. H needs a good dose of both and the same sort of work that has made Casboult a much more reliable kick. And soon, because our days at the bottom appear to be numbered.
Eddie is #1 all time in goal assists.
Whether he kicks them or not, he brings teammates into the game. We are playing as unselfish a brand of football as i've seen from this club for the past 20 years. Don't change it.
True, but I'd still liked us to have converted more of those chances though.
Watching the fourth quarter now ha reminded me of a few positives - the umpiring! They let the game go, a lot of non decisions were definitely HTB in previous games, and over umpiring ruins any game, no matter which way it goes.
So well done umpires!
Also thought Plow was so steady, Willo went up a notch, Fish is very talented, Walsh is so so solid, he’s a gun.
Wish Samo did more - feel like he’s being under-utilised?
Also curious as to what Teague was telling Fish off about at 3/4 time...
How could I forget TDK, will be one of our best at some stage!
Just on SPS, he's copping a lot of flack lately. Double so in regards to his kicking.
As you may remember, he has his shoulder strapped and he got a whack on it in a tackle which hurt him badly.
I'm pretty sure he would've had a jab in it....and maybe has been doing so for a while. In any event, his shoulder is clearly giving him issues.
Given it was his right should and he is a right footer, perhaps its hampering his ability to drop the ball as well as he'd like and this is have an effect on his kicking.
and commentators — Less is more! Stop filling every damn gap with inane dribble
Just on SPS, he's copping a lot of flack lately. Double so in regards to his kicking.
As you may remember, he has his shoulder strapped and he got a whack on it in a tackle which hurt him badly.
I'm pretty sure he would've had a jab in it....and maybe has been doing so for a while. In any event, his shoulder is clearly giving him issues.
Given it was his right should and he is a right footer, perhaps its hampering his ability to drop the ball as well as he'd like and this is have an effect on his kicking.
If he is injured he shouldnt be playing, was poor early vs GC turning the ball over and didnt contest well in the middle of the ground which could be that shoulder but got better later in the game.
I'd like to see him rested and freshened up for a couple of weeks and then back into the team and played on a wing....
In the current era, where goals are alot more scarce, players must be able to kick on their wrong side. Just watching the last qtr. Harry missed out on a soda as he had no right foot. Turned back on left and the chance was lost.
Kicking on your wrong foot was an essential back in the day.
It was interesting to see Murphy giving the players a bit of a rev up before the game. Clearly he is more respected by his teammates than by some supporters - and I use that term advisedly.
Ahh the old I'm a better supporter than you never gets old.
We were almost bullies last night - certainly the stronger team. GC were very young and our experience actually showed. We controlled the ball most of the night.
We side stepped/ wrong footed them a lot.
Maybe we are starting to earn some trust as we beat a side as we should have. Glad we didn't turn it into a close game.
We won't have the same luxuries next week. Hope we bring ntensity run and our goal kicking boots next week.
It was interesting to see Murphy giving the players a bit of a rev up before the game. Clearly he is more respected by his teammates than by some supporters - and I use that term advisedly.
It was a good win but we should be able bury poor opposition. Goal kicking continues to be a problem and we should have had >10 goals on the scoreboard.
Yes, you don't get gifted 280 games. You get that because you can play.
I was just happy not to have a heart attack for a change....lol.
We were almost bullies last night - certainly the stronger team. GC were very young and our experience actually showed. We controlled the ball most of the night.
We side stepped/ wrong footed them a lot.
Maybe we are starting to earn some trust as we beat a side as we should have. Glad we didn't turn it into a close game.
We won't have the same luxuries next week. Hope we bring ntensity run and our goal kicking boots next week.
And super glad we didn't get Brandon Ellis.
Redefines the term 'fringe' player.
Fev learnt the hard way. he was very ordinary for the first couple of seasons. But when he got it right, he really got it right. The concentration and the confidence were there. H needs a good dose of both and the same sort of work that has made Casboult a much more reliable kick. And soon, because our days at the bottom appear to be numbered.
Fev explained this recently, I think on Bob Murphys show?? Anyway, it was Ross Lyon who helped him fix his kicking when he was an assistant at Carlton. The odd grip he had on the ball was Rossy's idea.
Also thought Plow was so steady, Willo went up a notch, Fish is very talented, Walsh is so so solid, he’s a gun.
Wish Samo did more - feel like he’s being under-utilised?
Also curious as to what Teague was telling Fish off about at 3/4 time...
"Extract the digit son"
How could I forget TDK, will be one of our best at some stage!
Who says white men cant jump!
Just on SPS, he's copping a lot of flack lately. Double so in regards to his kicking.
As you may remember, he has his shoulder strapped and he got a whack on it in a tackle which hurt him badly.
I'm pretty sure he would've had a jab in it....and maybe has been doing so for a while. In any event, his shoulder is clearly giving him issues.
Given it was his right should and he is a right footer, perhaps its hampering his ability to drop the ball as well as he'd like and this is have an effect on his kicking.
I call BS
I call BS
Maybe. Dunno.
If this was on mythbusters, i think they'd end with Myth: Plausible.
SPS looks laconic at times and, like Harry, leans back on his kicks....I reckon he shanked about 4 in the first quarter...and they were before he hurt his shoulder. Martin showed what he's got, especially in that first quarter. He was everywhere, really good pace off the mark and used it beautifully.
Walsh was exceptional and a lot cleaner than most in those conditions.
Weitering must seriously now have his name in AA discussions. King barely got a sniff.
We dominated from the opening bounce and would've been nice for the scoreline to be something like 15-10 or thereabouts but as Teague said, it was the system that he was pleased with...it gave us plenty of chances, which we didn't take as well as we should've. But 4 points, no injuries by the looks and a 9 day break. It should hopefully mean Kennedy is right to go for the game against Collingwood.
TDK and Pitto are a really good combination and thrashed Witts. Pitto is the bull and TDK the athletic bloke who can push forward with his skills. Impossible to see how Kreuzer could force his way back into this team now, barring injury. Similarly, McGovern will have his work cut out now....I'd almost prefer the combination we've got now with McKay/Casboult as the key forwards and Pitto/TDK as the ruckman with TDK pushing forward.
@WAS
TDK is a very exciting prospect who, imo, should be kept in the team and hopefully gets some finals experience. He should be a great asset to us next year. Could the Kreuz era be over?
Cookie....I made the comment after TDK's game against Natanui a few weeks ago...his first for the year...that he should be in the side for the rest of the season, barring injury. I reckon he compliments the bullocking work of Pittonet perfectly. Hate to say it but if there's reduced lists next year and smaller salary caps, Kreuzer could get squeezed out and clubs won't have the luxury of having 4 ruckman on their lists. They'll have 2 specialists and someone as capable backup.
And super glad we didn't get Brandon Ellis.
Redefines the term 'fringe' player.
Absolutely spot on.
And super glad we didn't get Brandon Ellis.
Redefines the term 'fringe' player.
He has got his money so he doesnt have to deliver until the last year if he wants to continue....we got one of those on big bucks who has failed to fire a shot and still collects his money.
Maybe. Dunno.
If this was on mythbusters, i think they'd end with Myth: Plausible.
Think he has played one game vs the Bulldogs where he got 30 plus possies and looked the goods, really for a pick 6 I expected more consistency and effort. In his draft year there are some very decent footballers taken after him, finding a position for him may become a challenge as he really hasnt cemented a spot anywhere and averaging 16 disposals@75 games isnt really providing us with much rebound especially with some dubious kicking.
I'd be seeing what I could get for him at trade time, wouldnt give him away but for something reasonable I'd be tempted to upgrade...
First time since 2014, with a hell of a lot of failures in between. I'll take that, thank you!
X2
More progress 👏
Watching the fourth quarter now ha reminded me of a few positives - the umpiring! They let the game go, a lot of non decisions were definitely HTB in previous games, and over umpiring ruins any game, no matter which way it goes.
So well done umpires!
Agree. Umpiring was fair and consistent. In contrast to the WCE game, where #22 cost us. I'm still smarting over that 😠
Umpires A
No comments on our Indigenous jumper ?
No comments on our Indigenous jumper ?
I thought it was very good.
Not over cluttered and represented our indigenous players, members and supporters
Navy background would have worked well too.
Sometimes a simple design is good.
I thought it was very good.
Not over cluttered and represented our indigenous players, members and supporters
Navy background would have worked well too.
Sometimes a simple design is good.
I normally prefer a minimalist, uncluttered approach to design, but minimalism is a hard thing to get right. The line between thoughtfully spare and neglectfully bare is pretty thin, and IMO they missed the mark on this one.
We played a pretty ordinary side in competitive but ordinary form and did pretty much what we should have if we lay claims to being a finalist. We won, we didn't lapse badly conceding goals and we didn't get dragged down into the oppositions form.
The good:
Being featured on a Friday night and not letting the teev audience down bar appalling kicking for goal.
Outstanding rig. I watched the story of our Sir Doug Nicholls Indigenous Round jumper and was not only enthralled by the story and meaning of the rig, but by the simple yet stunning artwork of the jumper's design.
Edwardo swapping his guernsey with buggerlugs.
Our midfield co-operation and dominance, made the job for the backline lads much easier.
H
Jack Darling
Ed Curnow's high level of consistent valuable, effective play
TDK's continued progress
Crippa's Strong influence (especially courageous when factored in with what his 'Mon' is going through)
Setterfield
Gibbo
Zachery
Umpiring!!! Take note, number 22... we will not forget.
The bad:
Our finishing, i.e. goalkicking!
The Ugly:
The humidity resulting in sweaty bodies and too many, understandable, skill errors.
BT's commentary. Mrs Baggers turned to me at one stage, and unfamiliar with BT, asked, "Is that commentator a c0ckhead?"
Note: It was good to see Murphy, possibly for the first time in his career, being played exactly where he should be. His effort was markedly better to previous weeks along with his endeavour. I do not, however, agree that he was easily BOG, nuh. Did some very good things and involved himself in the game, and amounted possessions with a number of his disposals, when not under pressure, pin-point accurate... when under pressure the same old cr@p... early in the game a simply foot pass was a scrubber made good by Newnes and then a frightened handball that put SPS under the hammer... just to name two instances, I could name more. Those failures will be counted as effective disposals as team mates ended up with the aggot. I could give more example and don't have it in for Murph, but some of the high praise for him was exaggerated. He did deserve acknowledgement, however, for a far improved contribution on recent weeks and will no doubt get another year but I can easily imagine him being eased out of the side next year for a kid. I really wonder how much more his battered body can handle.
We played a pretty ordinary side in competitive but ordinary form and did pretty much what we should have if we lay claims to being a finalist. We won, we didn't lapse badly conceding goals and we didn't get dragged down into the oppositions form.
The good:
Being featured on a Friday night and not letting the teev audience down bar appalling kicking for goal.
Outstanding rig. I watched the story of our Sir Doug Nicholls Indigenous Round jumper and was not only enthralled by the story and meaning of the rig, but by the simple yet stunning artwork of the jumper's design.
Edwardo swapping his guernsey with buggerlugs.
Our midfield co-operation and dominance, made the job for the backline lads much easier.
H
Jack Darling
Ed Curnow's high level of consistent valuable, effective play
TDK's continued progress
Crippa's Strong influence (especially courageous when factored in with what his 'Mon' is going through)
Setterfield
Gibbo
Zachery
Umpiring!!! Take note, number 22... we will not forget.
The bad:
Our finishing, i.e. goalkicking!
The Ugly:
The humidity resulting in sweaty bodies and too many, understandable, skill errors.
BT's commentary. Mrs Baggers turned to me at one stage, and unfamiliar with BT, asked, "Is that commentator a c0ckhead?"
Note: It was good to see Murphy, possibly for the first time in his career, being played exactly where he should be. His effort was markedly better to previous weeks along with his endeavour. I do not, however, agree that he was easily BOG, nuh. Did some very good things and involved himself in the game, and amounted possessions with a number of his disposals, when not under pressure, pin-point accurate... when under pressure the same old cr@p... early in the game a simply foot pass was a scrubber made good by Newnes and then a frightened handball that put SPS under the hammer... just to name two instances, I could name more. Those failures will be counted as effective disposals as team mates ended up with the aggot. I could give more example and don't have it in for Murph, but some of the high praise for him was exaggerated. He did deserve acknowledgement, however, for a far improved contribution on recent weeks and will no doubt get another year but I can easily imagine him being eased out of the side next year for a kid. I really wonder how much more his battered body can handle.
Ahhh, with respect Baggers, Mrs Baggers sounds like my type of woman, made of the right stuff (purely from a Bluebagger and turn of phrase point if view).
No comments on our Indigenous jumper ?
Loved it. Unfortunately sold out 😢
Loved it. Unfortunately sold out 😢
Yes, looks like it. Boy they went quickly.
There's a 3XL size on eBay if you're interested :
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Official-2020-Carlton-Blues-Mens-Indigenous-Guernsey/164344371072?hash=item2643b01780:g:pdsAAOSwbW9fPJxL
Bored with the entire concept to be honest.
Agree. Umpiring was fair and consistent. In contrast to the WCE game, where #22 cost us. I'm still smarting over that 😠
Umpires A
I’m wondering if the Eagles game will come to be seen as a low point which simply won’t be tolerated anymore. In fact, wouldn’t surprise me if even the Carlton hating AFL execs looked at that highlight package and decided “... enough is enough. I know we instructed the umpires to always favour the non-Carlton side but this time they’ve gone too far”.
Wheres Fev as a specialist coach?
Hopefully working with Cripps on his goal kicking.
Fun fact. Five minutes to play and the Blues just keep coming.... and score 5 points 😳😳😳
and commentators — Less is more! Stop filling every damn gap with inane dribble
Agreed - the Ch 7 commentary teams are especially annoying
@WAS
TDK is a very exciting prospect who, imo, should be kept in the team and hopefully gets some finals experience. He should be a great asset to us next year. Could the Kreuz era be over?
I was intrigued to see TDK doing most of the ruck contests in the centre during the early stages - it seemed to work well.
The Ugly:
BT's commentary. Mrs Baggers turned to me at one stage, and unfamiliar with BT, asked, "Is that commentator a c0ckhead?"
Give my regards to the very perceptive Mrs Baggers.
The availability and form of Williamson has provided Plowman with an opportunity to spend more time away from the last line of defence, which has reduced his tendency to panic and grab a handful of jersey when doing so.
As a result, we are starting to see glimpses of why Plowman was drafted so high.
Give my regards to the very perceptive Mrs Baggers.
Regards passed on and she said to pass on her best to you and that she's looking forward to the time we can all watch a game again together - she enjoys your dry wit!
There's a 3XL size on eBay if you're interested :
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Official-2020-Carlton-Blues-Mens-Indigenous-Guernsey/164344371072?hash=item2643b01780:g:pdsAAOSwbW9fPJxL
Thanks but too big
Good four quarter effort. Second time this year after the Bulldogs game. Need to kick straight. Once again it gets to mind set. If we kick those goals, and we maintain our intensity, the game becomes becomes a lot easier. Learning how to win and believing in winning is where we need to get to in the next four weeks. Collingwood, GWS, then Sydney and Adelaide are all games we could and should win, though the GWS game will depend on which GWS side turns up. Ten wins will get us into the finals, nine and percentage maybe. If we miss out it will probably get back to the Hawthorn game. Every team has had a bad game, that was definitely ours.
The spread of performance against Gold Coast was excellent. Eddie was probably our weakest link because of his fumbling of easy marks, but he did make a contribution. The pressure from below on spots is very good. Dow, O'Brien, Kennedy, McGovern (maybe), Marchbank, Cuningham, Lang, Polson and Moore are all waiting in the wings while guys like Philp, Honey and Owies are also pressing.
I am excited and nervous about the next four weeks.
The availability and form of Williamson has provided Plowman with an opportunity to spend more time away from the last line of defence, which has reduced his tendency to panic and grab a handful of jersey when doing so.
As a result, we are starting to see glimpses of why Plowman was drafted so high.
Great observation RR.
That makes sense.
I've remained patient with Plowman, which has been testing at times as I shut my eyes when he's under pressure. In the last few games in particular that hasn't happened. He's more composed, whether marking, or poised ready to pass to the next link in the chain.
Wow (not in a BT kind of way🤢) I hope you're right and this develops.
Go Blues
The availability and form of Williamson has provided Plowman with an opportunity to spend more time away from the last line of defence, which has reduced his tendency to panic and grab a handful of jersey when doing so.
As a result, we are starting to see glimpses of why Plowman was drafted so high.
We are also putting more defensive pressure on up the ground and the ball isn’t rocketing into the forward 50 like an Exocet missile. All of the defenders seem to have a little more time and poise as a result.
We still let our defensive structures slip at times, like when two Suns were left unattended 20m from goal. Fix that and we will be hard to beat.
I don't know if there are any plans to make many changes, but Owies is certainly putting his hand up. 3 more goals for the 2nds with some nice highlights.
I’m liking Matthew Cottrell. Disposal efficiency will improve when he realises he has a bit more time, but he’s putting in the effort and finding the pill
I don't know if there are any plans to make many changes, but Owies is certainly putting his hand up. 3 more goals for the 2nds with some nice highlights.
Who are you going to drop for him? Eddie??
Can't see it happening.
Who are you going to drop for him? Eddie??
Can't see it happening.
Don't forget Dow's terrific 2's form... another who is knocking on the door.
An embarrassment of riches?
Don't forget Dow's terrific 2's form... another who is knocking on the door.
Players knocking on the door with good form / returning from injury.
Dow
Owies
Kennedy
Marchbank
Cuningham
McGovern
.....
As well as kids like
Philp
Honey
Add to that players who are out for the year....
Kreuzer
Curnow
Newman
Silvagni
.....and we are still winning!
When was the last time we had this problem that we had solid, in form players who could not get a game?
Where is spanner?
Coaches couldn't agree on much, but they could agree who the best player was.
Marc Murphy - 10
Jack Martin - four
Sam Walsh - four
Patrick Cripps - three
Liam Jones - three
Harry McKay - two
Jacob Weitering - two
Michael Gibbons - one
Jack Newnes - one
Players knocking on the door with good form / returning from injury.
Dow
Owies
Kennedy
Marchbank
Cuningham
McGovern
.....
As well as kids like
Philp
Honey
Add to that players who are out for the year....
Kreuzer
Curnow
Newman
Silvagni
.....and we are still winning!
When was the last time we had this problem that we had solid, in form players who could not get a game?
That says all you need to know about SOS's recruiting.
Where is spanner?
Coaches couldn't agree on much, but they could agree who the best player was.
Marc Murphy - 10
Jack Martin - four
Sam Walsh - four
Patrick Cripps - three
Liam Jones - three
Harry McKay - two
Jacob Weitering - two
Michael Gibbons - one
Jack Newnes - one
Coaches? What would they know? I had Setterfield in my best five ::)
With that possible exception, I think that they have pretty well captured the best players and how far ahead of the pack Murphy was.
Coaches? What would they know? I had Setterfield in my best five ::)
With that possible exception, I think that they have pretty well captured the best players and how far ahead of the pack Murphy was.
I would've found room for Plowman in there somewhere
I would've found room for Plowman in there somewhere
As RR remarked, Lachie is showing the form that his draft pick suggested. His best has always been good but losing one on one contests close to goal detracted from his performances.
Gibbons might find himself dropped for his shenanigans
Gibbons might find himself dropped for his shenanigans
I don't get all this touchy feely stuff with players at the song, what's its about?
Probably should be dropped but the ex VFL battler is an important player now and with
finals on the line I think he will survive with a warning only.
I don't get all this touchy feely stuff with players at the song, what's its about?
Probably should be dropped but the ex VFL battler is an important player now and with
finals on the line I think he will survive with a warning only.
But EB, what f-wit imbecile with not much upstairs must it take to do that only weeks after a furore and supposed educational classes to all clubs? Our players are special at times. I know they are just footballers not rocket scientists but FFS are they adults or children?
But EB, what f-wit imbecile with not much upstairs must it take to do that only weeks after a furore and supposed educational classes to all clubs? Our players are special at times. I know they are just footballers not rocket scientists but FFS are they adults or children?
LOL - Footballers. Storm in a tea cup. Warning and move on.
But EB, what f-wit imbecile with not much upstairs must it take to do that only weeks after a furore and supposed educational classes to all clubs? Our players are special at times. I know they are just footballers not rocket scientists but FFS are they adults or children?
I didn’t notice anything at the time. Has it been highlighted?
I thought that SOS’s ‘no d1ckheads’ policy and our emphasis on high standards was paying dividends.
I can’t really comment without seeing the incident but, coming so close after the Richmond groping, it would seem to be inexcusable.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/unacceptable-carlton-apologise-after-gibbons-touches-cameraman-20200823-p55oew.html
Yep, gets a week for failing to hear the message, you gotta have standards.
Dow or Owies to fill that role for a week.
I have been in favour of playing two ruckmen but, as I said in the pre-game thread, I was concerned about going into the game with De Koning, Pittonet, Casboult and McKay. My concerns were baseless and all four made solid contributions. However, there are some issues.
Witts is an imposing figure and won the hitouts (and hitouts to advantage). His contribution around the ground was negligible and he didn’t take a mark. Pittonet was very competitive in the ruck contests but had minimal impact around the ground. De Koning was beaten in ruck contests but was influential around the ground and as a high forward. Casboult was used in the ruck more than I expected but wasn’t a success, apart from his marking.
Interestingly, Pittonet spent a third of the game on the bench and De Koning was rested for 25% of the game. De Koning spent time as a forward when not in the ruck but Pittonet went from ruck to the bench. Casboult gave De Koning a spell when Pittonet was off the ground.
I don’t know if that will be the model for future games but can we afford to have two players spending 25% and 33% of the game on the bench? It probably isn’t a major factor with shortened quarters but would having two players on the bench for long periods upset our rotations and the ability of our midfielders to remain competitive?
Horses for courses, probably vs the better or bigger ruck units you would run both rucks and tap into their strengths.
So vs Collingwood who have a key player ruck in Grundy I'd go both, vs a team like Geelong who have carp rucks I'd go one and have an extra mid on the bench.
But EB, what f-wit imbecile with not much upstairs must it take to do that only weeks after a furore and supposed educational classes to all clubs? Our players are special at times. I know they are just footballers not rocket scientists but FFS are they adults or children?
Clubs treat players like kids, rocket scientists are in short supply.. Think Brisbane had a real one on their list a few years back..
We have seen how stupid players, wags etc have been with Covid-19.. look at Cotchins wife, those two clowns from Port and the kid from the Swans.
Players are treated like they are special, above the law and act that way.
Gibbons is important as a player now and will just get a warning imo.. He should get a week to set some standards but won't given we are borderline finals..
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/unacceptable-carlton-apologise-after-gibbons-touches-cameraman-20200823-p55oew.html
That particular photo shows Walsh with his hand on Setterfield's lemonade....... !?!?
That particular photo shows Walsh with his hand on Setterfield's lemonade....... !?!?
Gibbons is to the left crouching a bit and the video guy is in front of him
Think Walsh just has his hand there, not in a Pervy way.
I agree unacceptable but what the tigers boys did was absolutely unacceptable, they kept groping Chol, Over and over.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/unacceptable-carlton-apologise-after-gibbons-touches-cameraman-20200823-p55oew.html
Forget all the Gibbo stuff.
What i got out of the article was that we were one of the teams featured on the Amazon doco. Was anyone else aware of this?
I think GWS had been outed as being one, and Collingwood famously knocked Eddie McGuire back.
Forget all the Gibbo stuff.
What i got out of the article was that we were one of the teams featured on the Amazon doco. Was anyone else aware of this?
I think GWS had been outed as being one, and Collingwood famously knocked Eddie McGuire back.
Yeah, I read of it back in March, I thought it was common knowledge.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/03/03/player-manager-reveals-new-details-on-afl-amazon-documentary/
https://www.finder.com.au/amazon-afl-documentary-streaming-tv-series
Also thought they were following Rory Sloane around as well.
I have been in favour of playing two ruckmen but, as I said in the pre-game thread, I was concerned about going into the game with De Koning, Pittonet, Casboult and McKay. My concerns were baseless and all four made solid contributions. However, there are some issues.
Witts is an imposing figure and won the hitouts (and hitouts to advantage). His contribution around the ground was negligible and he didn’t take a mark. Pittonet was very competitive in the ruck contests but had minimal impact around the ground. De Koning was beaten in ruck contests but was influential around the ground and as a high forward. Casboult was used in the ruck more than I expected but wasn’t a success, apart from his marking.
Interestingly, Pittonet spent a third of the game on the bench and De Koning was rested for 25% of the game. De Koning spent time as a forward when not in the ruck but Pittonet went from ruck to the bench. Casboult gave De Koning a spell when Pittonet was off the ground.
I don’t know if that will be the model for future games but can we afford to have two players spending 25% and 33% of the game on the bench? It probably isn’t a major factor with shortened quarters but would having two players on the bench for long periods upset our rotations and the ability of our midfielders to remain competitive?
It may become even more problematic when McGovern gets back....and next year there may be Curnow to fit into the side as well.
What do we do with Kreuzer? Hard to see a place for someone like Silvagni as a forward as well.
Yeah, I read of it back in March, I thought it was common knowledge.
https://www.sen.com.au/news/2020/03/03/player-manager-reveals-new-details-on-afl-amazon-documentary/
https://www.finder.com.au/amazon-afl-documentary-streaming-tv-series
Never heard any more on it apart from what i wrote before.
Those links seem to be a bit unsure too, albeit Eddie Betts is named in both, so probably right.
Forget all the Gibbo stuff.
What i got out of the article was that we were one of the teams featured on the Amazon doco. Was anyone else aware of this?
I think GWS had been outed as being one, and Collingwood famously knocked Eddie McGuire back.
Not sure what Collingwood were thinking? This is terrific for the fans and it's their own president's media company.
Not sure what Collingwood were thinking? This is terrific for the fans and it's their own president's media company.
From what i can recall, they were over it after having just done a doco recently.
Bucks and some of the senior players said enough was enough and overruled Eddie.
EDIT: .....Eddie had been the one to go to Amazon and get all this stuff set up (to pump up his club in the meantime) and in the end he's basically done it for everyone else instead.
and commentators — Less is more! Stop filling every damn gap with inane dribble
You weren't enjoying BT's oh-so-close-to-being-outright-racist comments about the crowd?
You weren't enjoying BT's oh-so-close-to-being-outright-racist comments about the crowd?
You mean the crowd wasn't jumping around looking in all directions and bedazzled by the bright lights and the big city? :o