God help me - the Test Cricket thread

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Reply #975 – June 28, 2023, 07:18:01 pm

Starc in Boland out

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Reply #976 – June 28, 2023, 08:25:45 pm

What a surprise.

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Reply #977 – June 28, 2023, 08:43:52 pm

Not sure I would have replaced Boland, especially if there is a bit of movement in the pitch, but Starc swings the ball. Are they assuming the ball is going to swing? Not sure I want to make that assumption.

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Reply #978 – June 29, 2023, 12:06:18 am

I think prior to last test, unless Cummins was captain, then I think Boland would have taken his spot. Loved Boland's innings last match and his tenacity to keep running in, but who do you drop? Starc will swing it at pace, go for runs and may rip through them on this pitch. Add to this as a left hander this helps Lyon as well.

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Reply #979 – June 29, 2023, 09:05:15 am

Agreed. Cummins bowled poorly on India and in the first dig. I think the rough Starc creates is a bit over rated but I can see why he got picked. Hazelwood should buy a lotto ticket - and he and Mr Starc need to start returning wickets or the cartel might get broken up. That Starc doesn't bowl well after two tests is a real concern and has cost us in series more than once - I would have held him back for what I see as the pivotal test - the third one.

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Reply #980 – June 29, 2023, 09:45:52 am

That wicket isn't doing as much as people thought, and Root had an impact on something that was supposed to be a seamers paradise. It's probably the case that curator was given the word to green things up too late, and the result is superficial as the Poms would put it the pitch is a Mickey Mouse green top!

If the ball doesn't swing Starc will be a liability and he'll literally concede a cricket score, I hope I'm wrong, but I fear I'll be right!

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Reply #981 – June 29, 2023, 04:06:48 pm

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on June 26, 2023, 10:37:46 am

Reckon the next test wicket might have a bit more life for Sir Jim but I'd also expect him to be rested in rotation.
Think he is nearly done though and should retire at seasons end .I'd expect the new King to bestow a knighthood on him in the near future. Good bowler but I have never rated him as highly as the cricket experts and find him conceited and full of himself....

Probably desirable attributes for a Pommy test cricketer

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Reply #982 – June 29, 2023, 04:16:01 pm

Quote from: DJC on June 29, 2023, 04:06:48 pm

Probably desirable attributes for a Pommy test cricketer

Is perhaps what @ElwoodBlues1 has seen in Jimmy more of an observation about intelligence and lucidity?

Anderson comes across to me as a pretty blunt tool, athletically gifted courtesy of great genetics, but not a lot of tactical genius!

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Reply #983 – June 29, 2023, 06:16:17 pm

Jimmy has a bowling average of 26 which is good but doesn't make him a great imho. He has played a lot of tests but I put that down to a thin pool of bowlers England have produced and a failed county system that favours short format cricket for the money.

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Reply #984 – June 30, 2023, 07:25:58 am

Unimpressed by Starc. Reeks of an ego selection.

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Reply #985 – June 30, 2023, 07:51:59 am

Quote from: Professer E on June 30, 2023, 07:25:58 am

Unimpressed by Starc. Reeks of an ego selection.

They would have known 1/2-over in they made the wrong selection.

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Reply #986 – June 30, 2023, 08:28:46 am

Starc is a pie chucker and his selection has cost the side before. You could handle it if he was taking wickets, but going at 6 an over !?! Too many mates get selected in these sides, time to pick blokes who actually deliver. Surely Nathan's replacement will be Murphy, but then again I'm sure NSW can wheel out another mate.

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Reply #987 – June 30, 2023, 09:11:15 am

Ridiculous cricket late last night....Aus bowling 6 bouncers an over with everyone on the boundary in one day mode.
We have slipped to England's Bazball stupidity and it's a blight on the game.
It's going to cost us Lyon for the series after he popped a calf trying to take an outfield catch.
Some of the worst cricket I have seen ever...Starc and Green bowled garbage and even the accurate Hazelwood was forced to bowl bouncers every ball.
Might as well just play one day cricket for the ashes from now on down at a local park..what a joke from McCullum, Stokes and now Cummins.

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Reply #988 – June 30, 2023, 09:23:34 am

100%. Utterly brainless stuff. Simply bizarre, but after all they are BDQs...

Everyone knows that spinners are the only bowlers given a skerrick of intelligence.

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Reply #989 – June 30, 2023, 10:56:49 am

Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on June 30, 2023, 09:11:15 am

Might as well just play one day cricket for the ashes from now on down at a local park..what a joke from McCullum, Stokes and now Cummins.

And they are captained by a bar room brawler, a street thug, what do we expect?

But we haven't any high ground to take when we keep playing Warner and selecting Starc!

Bazball is OK, but as Mark Nicholl stated last night on the broadcast, test cricket is a long game that requires changes in tactics and momentum, if you are silly enough to fall into using the same tactic over and over eventually you'll be shown up as falling short.

The real trick might be to have smart leadership that can think on it's feet!