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Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1050
Interesting on CH7 sport, Travis Head relayed a story that in the 1st test Bairstow did exactly the same thing to him (he missed) and when Head quizzed him at the end of the over along the lines of "would you have run me out"? he responded with "bloody oath I would". Hypocrisy abounds!
Yeah heard that, they just replayed it on SEN 10 mins a go. They also pointed out their Prime Minister attended the same illegal Covid Party Boris lost his job over. I'd hate to be appointed PM in those circumstances...yah farken hypocrite.
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Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1052
Not necessarily.  That would depend on whether Marnus was batting out of his crease or batting in his crease, as Bairstow was, before taking a foolish wander down the pitch.  I don't know the answer but I think the two scenarios would be entirely different.

Whatever the situation, Aussie batters should be careful not to carelessly 'handle the ball' or take some other ill-advised action during the rest of the series.

It looked to me that Marnus was batting in his crease and still had his foot anchored behind the crease when the ball passed the stumps.

“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1053
Not necessarily.  That would depend on whether Marnus was batting out of his crease or batting in his crease, as Bairstow was, before taking a foolish wander down the pitch.  I don't know the answer but I think the two scenarios would be entirely different.

Whatever the situation, Aussie batters should be careful not to carelessly 'handle the ball' or take some other ill-advised action during the rest of the series.

No different. He was attempting to take the stumps as Carey did.

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1054
I get Bairstow was out but I agree with Brad Hogg that it's not a good look and I wouldn't have done what Carey did without warning the batsman first in a Mankad fashion.
Bairstow wasn't attempting a run and had remarked his guard and yep he was out officially but now it's just going to open the doors for all teams to try that stuff on and like the bouncer war it was us initiating it then the English going overboard and now they will be desperate to Mankad/Carey our blokes back and it just makes for poor unattractive cricket. It could have cost us the game too as Stokes and Broad really hardened their resolve and involved the crowd. I reckon if Carey had his time over he would have done it differently.
The Starc catch was a poor 3rd umpiring decision, Duckett had walked off .
That law about the ball in the ground when landing needs changing, it was a clean catch and he was only supporting his body landing on the ground.
Right result though in this game and makes for a fiery 3rd test.....

Carey threw the ball absolutely immediately on taking it while Bairstow was actually in his crease. He left the crease while the ball was in-flight and live towards the stumps. Warnings for Mankads, no warnings for stumpings. If the ball is live, and if a ball being thrown it is live, then stay in your crease until the umpire calls over. His own idiotic fault.

Got to love the hypocrisy of McCullum and Broad. Imagine taking lectures off Broad for something like this.

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1055
No different. He was attempting to take the stumps as Carey did.

No difference under the rules but not comparable situations when trying to justify Bairstow's dismissal by comparing it to him attempting to throw down the stumps if a batter was playing out of his crease or fell out of his crease when playing a shot.

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1056
Some cove on Twitter summed up the situation perfectly:

"It’s called Bazball. If you lose, you act and talk as if you’ve won. If you lose again, you act and talk as if you would have won, were it not for some despicable act of cheating that, inexplicably, seems to have found its way into the Laws of the game."
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1057
Some cove on Twitter summed up the situation perfectly:

"It’s called Bazball. If you lose, you act and talk as if you’ve won. If you lose again, you act and talk as if you would have won, were it not for some despicable act of cheating that, inexplicably, seems to have found its way into the Laws of the game."
There isn't the time old adage (as derogatory as it might be) "Whinging Poms" for no reason mate. It also wasn't lost on my that a bunch of convicts had to teach those stuck up kents in the long room a thing or two about manners.
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Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1058
Stuart Broad talking about the way the English team plays cricket:

“Those things aren’t remembered.  It’s winning the series that will be remembered.  We do have a win-at-all-costs mentality.  I think we’re quite an unpleasant team to play against at the moment.  Teams won’t play against us and enjoy the experience.  That’s what we want.”

I’m not entirely sure of the context but perhaps it was when Broad laughed and celebrated Johnny Bairstow running out De Grandhomme in similar circumstances to Bairstow’s dismissal.

Meanwhile Geoff Boycott has a different view:

"If you want to win at all costs then cricket should not be for you."

Perhaps Geoff and Stuart should get together and work out what is the right way to play cricket 🙄

Meanwhile, ground staff at Headingly are struggling to get the pitch ready after it was flooded by a river of tears 🙂
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1059
Meanwhile, ground staff at Headingly are struggling to get the pitch ready after it was flooded by a river of tears 🙂
Quite ironic given Lord's is out of action due to the clean-up after a slaughter!

In the olden days The Ashes marked the death of English cricket, is it time to move cricket's headquarters as well?
The Force Awakens!

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1060
The next Test should be a cracker, its gonna be On Like Donkey Kong. I think this type of aggressive Cricket suits this Aussie team to a T. We don't seem to have any shrinking violets, but at the same time, I think our blokes are incredibly classy. Having said that, the English will be reeling and I expect a fire contest. What would be best for the series would be for the Poms to win the next 2 and then we win the decider. Of course for us the best would be a 5-0 whitewash but I can't see that happening.
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Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1061
Pope out for the series...English are going with 5 bowlers ,Woakes, Wood and Ali in, Pope ,Tongue and Anderson out.
Wood bowled this crap 6 bouncers per over rubbish in Pakistan on dead wickets and was effective but they were able to rotate and rest him but if he bowls like that this test he won't last the series as he has had no preparation.Bit surprised Tongue was dropped and Robinson retained...
They are propping up the batting with Woakes and Ali as bowling allrounders.
I'm just presuming Stokes wants to employ 4 quicks for a bouncer war, be interesting to see how green the wicket is for this test.

Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1062
Pope out for the series...English are going with 5 bowlers ,Woakes, Wood and Ali in, Pope ,Tongue and Anderson out.
Wood bowled this crap 6 bouncers per over rubbish in Pakistan on dead wickets and was effective but they were able to rotate and rest him but if he bowls like that this test he won't last the series as he has had no preparation.Bit surprised Tongue was dropped and Robinson retained...
They are propping up the batting with Woakes and Ali as bowling allrounders.
I'm just presuming Stokes wants to employ 4 quicks for a bouncer war, be interesting to see how green the wicket is for this test.

Be nice if it was wild WACA type pitch. That would sort out the men from the boys.
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Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1063
Fark me, I turn the cricket on, first ball I see, wicket, Warner gone
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2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
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Re: God help me - the Test Cricket thread

Reply #1064
Wood bowling express, glad he didn't play the earlier tests. If they ever get Archer fit they might be scary..