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That looks crappy, but I'll improve it tomorrow.
Kreuzer is named.
We have been screwed over by VFL draw again! Bye last week, now we have 1st and 2nds playing Sunday afternoon in 2 states which means we will need 2 traveling emergencies who will play stuff all football again this week.
GEELONG v. NORTHERN BLUES
Round 2 – 14/04/2019 1:00pm
GMHBA Stadium – Geelong
NORTHERN BLUES
B: 77. M. Blakey, 80. K. Keppel, 24. N. Newman
HB: 21. J. Garlett, 1. J. Silvagni, 13. L. Stocker
C: 75. F. Anderson, 7. M. Kennedy, 57. E. Penrith
HF: 16. D. Lang, 45. H. Goddard, 53. J. Palmer
F: 32. A. Fasolo, 36. P. Kerr, 40. M. Gibbons
R: 8. M. Kreuzer, 50. T. Wilson, 4. L. O’Brien
Int: 69. S. Fisher, 60. J. Hill, 64. J. Lynch, 38. F. O’Dwyer, 44. M. Owies, 29. C. Polson, 19. A. Schumacher, 37. B. Silvagni, 66. G. Strachan, 74. S. Williams
23P: 72. N. Wheeler
GEELONG
B: 62. C. Floyd, 15. N. Kreuger, 51. J. Tsitas
HB: 39. Z. Guthrie, 48. A. Black, 37. S. Simpson
C: 20. O. Brownless, 29. C. Guthrie, 21. J. Kennerley
HF: 10. B. Jarvis, 28. D. Fort, 41. J. Jones
F: 9. Z. Smith, 12. W. Buzza, 33. J. Tarca
R: 45. R. Abbott, 19. Q. Narkle, 34. J. Parsons
Int: 47. D. Gore, 74. J. Gow, 53. J. Keras, 52. J. McLachlan, 75. C. Mitchell, 56. B. Reid, 49. N. Rokahr, 55. L. Smith
23P: 64. C. Wilson
odd the Newman name is in the 2s list?
Horribly unbalanced looking side that one
odd the Newman name is in the 2s list?
All interchange players on the extended bench in the 1sts are names in the 2’s no matter who they are until final squads at 5 pm tonight.
Horribly unbalanced looking side that one
Geelong going ok to have Cam Guthrie playing in the two's........
Geelong going ok to have Cam Guthrie playing in the two's........
Got beaten at home by the Giants.
Got beaten at home by the Giants.
Should have played Guthrie, its not like Gaz and Danger are going to man up Coniglio, Kelly, Whitfield etc.....you let those three get 30 plus possies each then you are going to lose the game....
Should have played Guthrie, its not like Gaz and Danger are going to man up Coniglio, Kelly, Whitfield etc.....you let those three get 30 plus possies each then you are going to lose the game....
GWS have an awesome list, and the new rules suit it to the ground, I expect older / slower lists to really suffer as this season goes on!
PS; Ward is very unlucky, they could well win a flag this year!
GWS have an awesome list, and the new rules suit it to the ground, I expect older / slower lists to really suffer as this season goes on!
PS; Ward is very unlucky, they could well win a flag this year!
GWS would be my tip for the flag but Ward is the one player they cannot afford to lose as their one weakness is they lack a bit of physicality....
GWS would be my tip for the flag but Ward is the one player they cannot afford to lose as their one weakness is they lack a bit of physicality....
Coniglio and Hopper very hard at it. Hopper has made the leap this year to a 30 pos per game player. Same draft as Kennedy I think.
Coniglio and Hopper very hard at it. Hopper has made the leap this year to a 30 pos per game player. Same draft as Kennedy I think.
I probably should have said they lack a bit of mongrel.Coniglio attacks the ball well but is a nice guy, Greene went to water when he got manned up by Maynard in the finals.They dont have much in the nasty bracket which you sometimes need in the finals. Deboer gets a game because he plays it rough but he doesnt give you much as a footballer.They could have done with Hodge or Lewis on their list.
Dont get me wrong they are very skillful and attack the ball ok overall but I reckon they got Mumford back for more than his ruckwork....
The Blues won by a point, 68 to 67, but that is all the detail I can get at the moment.
I've heard SpecialK only played part of the game, and JSoS kicked the winner.
GEELONG VFL 2.3 5.7 6.10 9.13 (67)
NORTHERN BLUES 5.2 5.4 9.7 10.8 (68)
GOALS
Northern Blues: Kerr 2, Palmer 2, J.Silvagni 2, Garlett, Kreuzer, O’Dwyer, Penrith
BESTS
Northern Blues: Kreuzer, Wilson, J.Silvagni, Goddard, Anderson, Hill
From the NB's website. Silvagni will be a certain 'in' next week. Kreuzer too is he is fit enough. I would doubt that with him not 100% game time yet, but we can't go in with Lobbe. He was destroyed today.
Good win. At least we have something to celebrate this weekend. Well done lads.
It's curious, I've a mate who was there said that SpecialK only played managed minutes and they named him BoG!
It's curious, I've a mate who was there said that SpecialK only played managed minutes and they named him BoG!
16 possessions in half a game and an excellent game in the ruck. He must have dominated while he was on.
It also makes you wonder about the rest.
16 possessions in half a game and an excellent game in the ruck. He must have dominated while he was on.
It also makes you wonder about the rest.
My mate didn't say 1/4, 1/2 or 3/4s, just that SpecialK was managed through the game, so I suspect he spent a good chunk of each quarter on the bench!
Looks like Kennedy and Polson didn't play.
Looks like Kennedy and Polson didn't play.
They both went with the senior side as emergencies.
Lucky them, not tainted with the 22 that fronted up.
Congratulations to NB's holding on to win at GMBH (or whatever stupid name it is) against the Cats.
At least a few of our guys get to sing the song. Let's hope they can bring that winning effort when they get called up. Don't expect the likes of Lang even know the words. ???
From the NB's website. Silvagni will be a certain 'in' next week. Kreuzer too is he is fit enough. I would doubt that with him not 100% game time yet, but we can't go in with Lobbe. He was destroyed today.
Knowing our match committee, we’ll probably just bring in Polson again.
In its section on state league performances the afl website says Fasolo went down early with a back injury. Is this correct?
In its section on state league performances the afl website says Fasolo went down early with a back injury. Is this correct?
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2019-04-15/northern-prevails-in-nailbiter
The Blues were made to do it the hard way, with Alex Fasolo coming from the ground in the opening five minutes due to a back injury.
In its section on state league performances the afl website says Fasolo went down early with a back injury. Is this correct?
I'm certainly not happy he got injured, but at least it stops us from making an error in bringing him in again anytime soon.
Let us try something else that might work long term instead.
I'm certainly not happy he got injured, but at least it stops us from making an error in bringing him in again anytime soon.
Let us try something else that might work long term instead.
I agree
It was great to see Matty Kreuzer in the highlights - his mobility and ability to link up has been sorely missed - and in the post game interview. He was obviously pleased to get through the game, even with a bit of extra time on the pine.
very pleased he was!
Very likeable fella it appears.
It was great to see Matty Kreuzer in the highlights - his mobility and ability to link up has been sorely missed - and in the post game interview. He was obviously pleased to get through the game, even with a bit of extra time on the pine.
True story.
Difference between W - L imo
I read or heard Lang played limited time of HB.
Is that a new role for him?
Can he a) aid in our link up play, b) play the small forward role?
Or c) none of the above ;)
I hope he gets fit and gives us something...
I read or heard Lang played limited time of HB.
Is that a new role for him?
Can he a) aid in our link up play, b) play the small forward role?
Or c) none of the above ;)
I hope he gets fit and gives us something...
I have high hopes for Lang.
He isnt crap, he just hasnt been fit with us.
I have high hopes for Lang.
He isnt crap, he just hasnt been fit with us.
Does fitness come from the heart?
Player review up on the web site for the this round. Good signs from Stoker and we may see him make his debut soon as it seems that he is a quick learner.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2019-04-16/vfl-player-review-round-2
He is also featured in the coaches corner.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2019-04-16/carlton-coaches-corner-liam-stocker
Player review up on the web site for the this round. Good signs from Stoker and we may see him make his debut soon as it seems that he is a quick learner.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2019-04-16/vfl-player-review-round-2
He is also featured in the coaches corner.
https://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2019-04-16/carlton-coaches-corner-liam-stocker
Playing stocker this early is a tell that we have a lot of issues with small backs.
Playing stocker this early is a tell that we have a lot of issues with small backs.
Or it's rewarding good form!
Willo well ahead of him and he's hardly going to be picked ahead of of Simmo or Daisy?
They're just pumping his tyres up....
Our defence is our shining light presently in any event....
Or it's rewarding good form!
Willo well ahead of him and he's hardly going to be picked ahead of of Simmo or Daisy?
They're just pumping his tyres up....
Our defence is our shining light presently in any event....
I suspect they look to him as a small forward if he gets a run, which is ironic given they play him in defence! Possibly because Owies was ill, I would have thought Owies off the HBF and through the midfield was the better option with Stocker forward of center.
Things will change with Williamson and Macreadie back, I hope they get a good run at footy injury free.
Or it's rewarding good form!
Willo well ahead of him and he's hardly going to be picked ahead of of Simmo or Daisy?
They're just pumping his tyres up....
Our defence is our shining light presently in any event....
Lachie o brien says hi.
Jack silvagni and Matt Kennedy must be wondering what they have to do to get a game.
Lachie o brien says hi.
Jack silvagni and Matt Kennedy must be wondering what they have to do to get a game.
The stats say high, like moneyball, playing forward JSoS had 6 shots at goal for 2.3 with one OTF.
Hardly the finisher we need given our recent losses!
I think if JSoS gets a run it will be as a Setterfield replacement, but I fear the timing is bad because the pace of the Dogs will show him up!
The stats say high, like moneyball, playing forward JSoS had 6 shots at goal for 2.3 with one OTF.
Hardly the finisher we need given our recent losses!
I think if JSoS gets a run it will be as a Setterfield replacement, but I fear the timing is bad because the pace of the Dogs will show him up!
Fasolo didn't deserve a game ahead of polson
O brien didn't deserve a game ahead of anyone
Can we abandon this myth that players worthy of a game are getting opportunities??
The only way you could argue it is that stocker has less requirements to earn a game than the others due to length of time at the club.
Either way when you play first year players ahead of schedule (see o brien last season) they are either supremely talented and might surprise or our senior bodies are struggling and the last few matches have shown me our blokes cant play 4 quarters and match fitness is an issue.
Gees, hasn't Fasolo been a home run money ball pick up... Not
Gees, hasn't Fasolo been a home run money ball pick up... Not
My opinion hasn't changed, he is a bet we've placed, I'm just not sure we can afford those bets at this time. It feels too soon, I hope he proves me wrong!
To me it would make more sense for a club on the borderline of success to pick up a player like Fasolo, I see him as an icing on the cake type player not a 24x7 type. I do not think he brings the kids much, at least on the field, maybe he has prime value off the field like Lobbe, although some would now question that as well!
Certainty to be deleted end of year IMO. Multi Year contract was sheer madness.
My opinion hasn't changed, he is a bet we've placed, I'm just not sure we can afford those bets at this time. It feels too soon, I hope he proves me wrong!
To me it would make more sense for a club on the borderline of success to pick up a player like Fasolo, I see him as an icing on the cake type player not a 24x7 type. I do not think he brings the kids much, at least on the field, maybe he has prime value off the field like Lobbe, although some would now question that as well!
Fasalo was high risk...injury prone both physically and mentally, playing a yesterdays mark and kick game in a new era of pressure forward work which with his fitness and
game style had him unable to play senior footy at Collingwood and replaced by younger modern game style players...
If you took our desperation out of the equation you wouldnt have recruited him based on the facts.......
Certainty to be deleted end of year IMO. Multi Year contract was sheer madness.
It was not a multi year contract. Well, I gather he needs to meet certain KPIs.....
Early days.
Certainly, in my opinion which I admit doesn't count for much, only one of Lang or Fasolo can survive to 2020!
Fasolo I thought signed two years, Lang's contract is a mystery!
Certainly, in my opinion which I admit doesn't count for much, only one of Lang or Fasolo can survive to 2020!
Fasolo I thought signed two years, Lang's contract is a mystery!
Lang end of 2019 according to footywire....
He'd need to fire a few shots THIS season, I agree.
It was not a multi year contract. Well, I gather he needs to meet certain KPIs.....
Early days.
Yes, one year with an option.
I’d like to see him get that second year because he would have to play some decent footy to earn it.
I've been as critical as anyone on Fasolo, but even I am not putting him in the 100% delist category. Given he is a seasoned player, he'll have the fitness base that draftees could only dream of. As a result, he might be able to make his way back into the side if/when he gets some continuity/consistency in his game.
Ditto Lang really.
That being said, we need to delist at least 3 at seasons end, and there isn't too many 'locks' for delisting at this stage. I reckon the front runners are probably, Polson, Fasolo, Lobbe, Philips, Casboult (all of who have played this year)
Certainly, in my opinion which I admit doesn't count for much, only one of Lang or Fasolo can survive to 2020!
Fasolo I thought signed two years, Lang's contract is a mystery!
Tend to agree LP...my preference is Lang. Both are injury prone but I think Lang offers more in terms of where you can play him.
Fas is very limited and really his last few seasons have had him playing as a small leading Full Forward at Collingwood and I cant see him ever being
that pressure forward type of player required in the modern game.
I've been as critical as anyone on Fasolo, but even I am not putting him in the 100% delist category. Given he is a seasoned player, he'll have the fitness base that draftees could only dream of. As a result, he might be able to make his way back into the side if/when he gets some continuity/consistency in his game.
Ditto Lang really.
That being said, we need to delist at least 3 at seasons end, and there isn't too many 'locks' for delisting at this stage. I reckon the front runners are probably, Polson, Fasolo, Lobbe, Philips, Casboult (all of who have played this year)
Lebois, Garlett, Kerr, Schumacher and maybe Pickett(I would retain him) you can add to that list.....reckon they will keep one of the three rucks probably Philips and look to draft a 205cm plus stronger type ruck who can compete with the other big units that seem to be creeping into the game again...
Fasolo hasn't had an AFL-capable fitness base for years, messed up over the summer (=less than professional attitude), now he's injured again. It's round five, he's running out of time to get fit enough to contribute - maybe too late already. He'd need a stunning turnaround to be listed next Year. If he did so great, but I'm not holding my breath in expectation.
So very high probability of being cut. That would be another miss by SoS. His record on this front is very poor.
Fasolo hasn't had an AFL-capable fitness base for years, messed up over the summer (=less than professional attitude), now he's injured again. It's round five, he's running out of time to get fit enough to contribute - maybe too late already. He'd need a stunning turnaround to be listed next Year. If he did so great, but I'm not holding my breath in expectation.
So very high probability of being cut. That would be another miss by SoS. His record on this front is very poor.
I'm not sure sos has much to work with here though. Of late we have only been attracting players who cannot play senior footy because they're down the pecking order for various reasons. McGovern was the first we've landed who is a genuine chance to play in any side in the competition for a long while. The reasons for that are wide and varied. The major one is probably to do with what we have been doing the last few seasons and shuffling players out for draft picks and playing the longer game. That means everyone is looking at us and not seeing us as a destination club because they are all wanting to win a flag. That leaves us with blokes who are just trying to forge a career and lacking opportunities or blokes trying to resurrect their careers and needing opportunities.
Hence why its important we gove them every chance once we get them. It will build a reputation that we are not the last chance saloon.
McGovern was the first we've landed who is a genuine chance to play in any side in the competition for a long while.
We really cannot credit our recruiters with this too much, it's not really the recruiting coup it was reported.
McGovern wanted out and Gibbs wanted home, the club just needed enough balls not to blink!
However, I concede it seems it's a vote of confidence from McGovern about the club, it's coach and it's direction, because of all the participants in that deal he had the choice of destination.
Smedts
Bugg
Mullet
Fasolo
Lobbe
If that isn't a line up for the desperation stakes at the last chance saloon I've never seen it.
But you're right, the only blokes that want to come here are those in that position.... Or the money is talking.
If that isn't a line up for the desperation stakes at the last chance saloon I've never seen it.
But you're right, the only blokes that want to come here are those in that position.... Or the money is talking.
If it's the money then we won't succeed, the one thing I know about top level sport is that if you are motivated by the money you'll blink every time there is a crunch moment. I doubt there is a single high ranked successful sports-person who is motivated by the money and made it to the top!
What about Lang, do you still hold out hope, could he be the small forward we are looking for? I think he can pay off if the club can get in his head and get him sorted out, because he's probably the second best ball user on our list!
The kind of player who could be very useful but yet another perennially injured pick up. A footballer moreso than a athlete. My Geelong supporting mate says he gets leather poisoning but coming off bad foot injuries.....which started as a junior and they are so often career terminal. His body shape and attitude concern as well - how badly does he want it? Can he get fit enough?
Reminds me in a lot of ways of Heath Scotland, who took a while to get himself sorted out as well but became a very valuable player with his positional flexibility, nous and ball use.
The kind of player who could be very useful but yet another perennially injured pick up. A footballer moreso than a athlete. My Geelong supporting mate says he gets leather poisoning but coming off bad foot injuries.....which started as a junior and they are so often career terminal. His body shape and attitude concern as well - how badly does he want it? Can he get fit enough?
Reminds me in a lot of ways of Heath Scotland, who took a while to get himself sorted out as well but became a very valuable player with his positional flexibility, nous and ball use.
Yes, it's a tough situation, because the MC will be trying to judge Lang's head-space more than anything else!
The worry is that he was a reluctant resident to start with!
Not wanting to taint any players, I've a mate who worries about the apparent lack of success of Geelong trades, not just at Carlton but across the AFL in general. Well not really their lack of success, but why they seem to over achieve while at the Handbaggers, like the Handbaggers have some magic potion, it must be the Bellarine air! ;)