Carlton Supporters Club

No one wants to see Harry make the grade more than I do believe me, it's just that I've heard the big blokes take longer line plenty of times over the years and it's usually just a wish and a hope, Hampson and De Luca come to mind but it's been said about other duds we've had around the place.
I'd be happy enough if he could just get a game, but it's a worry that he can't force his way into such a poorly performed side and it's not as if he's injured.
All I'm saying is that he needs to shape up otherwise we'd be better off cutting our losses while he might still have some trade value, in the position we find ourselves there's no room for wishful thinking.

Cant believe he played that many, I guessed four.

Never played more than 4 in any given year.

2007 - 2009, 4, 4 and 3 (in the year we lost Whitnall and JK)

It’s obviously a no to trading Harry McKay - in fact it’s absolute madness.

We’ll get lowballed now, so there’s no harm in waiting to see whether he develops. Worst outcome is that we get lowballed in the future.

The problem with that is that it's a no to trading anyone of any value according to most Carlton supporters, so how can we expect to trade anyone in who's half way decent.
Half of our list isn't AFL standard so there's no point hawking any of them around, so we just keep on trading in hacks and rejects in exchange for low draft picks and the sorry mess continues.

Who do you want to trade him for?

Who’s going to replace him?

I don't want to trade him unless we get to the end of this season and he's still showing four fifths of not much.
At that point his value would be limited but at the end of 2019 it would be zero, so we could at least salvage something.
Footscray traded Griffin, their captain, for Boyd, and some years ago North traded their captain for Shannon Grant, you have to give something to get something.
Unless we want to keep trading in the likes of Sumner, Smedts and Wiley, which has worked out well.

I can't believe we didn't play him more.  He wasn't that bad and could kick it like a mule.

Wasn't he injured (soft tissue) all the time?

I don't want to trade him unless we get to the end of this season and he's still showing four fifths of not much.
At that point his value would be limited but at the end of 2019 it would be zero, so we could at least salvage something.
Footscray traded Griffin, their captain, for Boyd, and some years ago North traded their captain for Shannon Grant, you have to give something to get something.
Unless we want to keep trading in the likes of Sumner, Smedts and Wiley, which has worked out well.

B4L if Harry has not shown anything by the end of the year I suspect his trade value would be close to zero anyway without the need to provide a further year's demonstration. There would always be a risk though that some sharp-eyed list manager saw something in him that a club thought could be developed. I can't see that translating into anything of real value for us though.

Dane Swan and Corey Enright were 4th round picks, in football parlance that's close to zero but just because we haven't jagged a good player low in the draft since Ryan Houlihan it doesn't mean that we can't in the future.
I think that Williamson was pick 60 odd and he looks OK.
It would be better than what we usually get, which is nothing.
Let's not forget that Richmond gave us pick 30 odd for Hampson, which is near enough to what we paid for Docherty, and no matter how bad McKay proves to be he can't be a worse footballer than Hammer.