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Title: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 25, 2016, 09:53:18 am
VFL Round 4: Match of the Day? Well, may not, but it is important anyway. Why? The Blues take on Collingwood at Preston City Oval at 1400 hours.
 The development team play against Coburg at Preston at 1100 hours as the curtain raiser.

Now Collingwood seniors have been struggling, but the Drug Cheats VFL team pounded them by close to 15 goals o the weekend. So, unlike last year when they embarrassed us, we have a quite reasonable chance.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 26, 2016, 08:07:21 pm
Walker, Boekhorst and maybe Sheehan  are possible 'ins' for this week. Also there is a good chance that 2 of the 3 Carlton emergencies will play this week. The side should be a little stronger.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: LP on April 26, 2016, 08:31:38 pm
Walker, Boekhorst and maybe Sheehan  are possible 'ins' for this week. Also there is a good chance that 2 of the 3 Carlton emergencies will play this week. The side should be a little stronger.

Doh, all three ruled out for another week!

Buckley out "Injured", slightly strained calf or heavily bruised ego?

Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: cimm1979 on April 26, 2016, 09:02:23 pm
Doh, all three ruled out for another week!

Buckley out "Injured", slightly strained calf or heavily bruised ego?

His ego is fine.

He was pretty good without being outstanding on Sunday.

A lot of unrewarded running. Made one eff up when he didn't get the ball to Thomas. Pretty good otherwise.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: LP on April 26, 2016, 09:05:31 pm
His ego is fine.

He was pretty good without being outstanding on Sunday.

A lot of unrewarded running. Made one eff up when he didn't get the ball to Thomas. Pretty good otherwise.

If it was his first I'd forgive him but this season he has been a serial offender.

Was Casboult's dis sending Buckley a message?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: cimm1979 on April 26, 2016, 09:32:56 pm
If it was his first I'd forgive him but this season he has been a serial offender.

Was Casboult's dis sending Buckley a message?

I wouldn't have thought so.

It was an excellent mark, he thought briefly about dishing but he also had his back to the goals at the best time to give it off.

I think he decided as soon as it hit his hands he was going to kick it.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: malo on April 27, 2016, 10:35:21 am
Doh, all three ruled out for another week!

Buckley out "Injured", slightly strained calf or heavily bruised ego?


%#*!.....is Sheehan ever going to get on the park !
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: LP on April 27, 2016, 10:41:17 am

%#*!.....is Sheehan ever going to get on the park !

Well we hope so, he's been a week or two away for a week or two now. But I suppose this sorts of OP/Hip type problems have to be treated very conservatively as they recur frequently.

I think he'll get back on the park, the question is will his run and kicking have been greatly affected by the surgeries. Another Daisy, but without the credits in the bank, maybe? He's too good of a footballer to discard, if the Pies can put up with a Yank for three years we can carry Sheehan a bit longer, at times/moments his attack on the ball and contest have made him look Voss like.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: pinot on April 28, 2016, 05:37:04 pm
Is it on TV?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on April 28, 2016, 06:55:45 pm
Is it on TV?

Seems Ch 7 only do Sunday VFL games
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 28, 2016, 08:14:16 pm
Seems Ch 7 only do Sunday VFL games
Not quite. They do have considerable leeway over when the games they televise can be played, but it is a matter of how its fits in with their AFL coverage. If there is a pattern, I have yet to see it. I have no idea when, or IF, we get on TV. Collingwood, Essendon, Port Melbourne and Williamstown appear to be their favourites. (Why anyone would want to televise a gave at North Port Oval, let alone play finals there, is a mystery to me. The place is not impressive and the surface turns to mud with the slightest rain.)
This year Channel 7 has gone for Sundays, to fit in with their Sunday afternoon coverage, for what it I worth. 
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 28, 2016, 08:26:49 pm
Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Saturday 30th April, 2016
Preston City Oval at 2.00pm

Northern Blues
B: 26. M Dick 34. J Glass-McCasker 27. M Jamison
HB: 4. S Russell 11. K McGuinness 43. S White
C: 76. J Tutt 49. D Armfield 65. D Viojo
HF: 51. E Curnow 20. A Everitt 56. A Gallucci
F: 67. C Smith 48. K Jaksch 36. C Wood
R: 15. A Phillips 32. N Graham [/color] 1. T Wilson
Int: 37. T Jones 8. B Bransgrove 25. A Brown 22. D Aujla 12. Z Ballard 23. H Kerbatieh 29. B Casley 10. T Totevski 18. D Gorringe 80. M Korcheck 31. J Foster 6. G Strachan

23P: 24. T Roos
    
Collingwood

B: 28. B Sinclair 17. J Marsh 21. T Phillips
HB: 34. A Toovey 47. D Wyatt 41. T Golds
C: 39. B Crocker 35. B Sier 37. B Maynard
HF: 29. T Broomhead 33. R Wills 9. J White
F: 27. M Goodyear 32. T Cloke 11. J Blair
R: 65. L Howe 14. J Aish 3. B MacAffer
Int: 74. J Viola 61. N Gray 60. J Kelly 67. M Smith 66. D Hinkley 71. A Rambaldi 69. J Blair 53. J Hellier 72. W Knight 57. A Close 58. B Moloney 54. J Collopy

23P: 70. M Hore

Collingwood 2nds got flogged last week by the Drug Cheats. But their named team doesn't look that bad to me. Eve though they will have to make a few changes. Hopefully the Baby Blues can come out and show them we have talent! :)

No Cunningham again. That doesn't look like a rest. I have no idea what is up there.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: cimm1979 on April 28, 2016, 08:34:02 pm
No SOS, Cuningham or Gowers.

Wish they'd keep us updated.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 28, 2016, 08:36:07 pm
Northern Blues vs Coburg Lions              
Saturday 30th April, 2016
Preston City Oval at 11.00am

Northern Blues

B: 78. M Walson 50. B Jordan 54. C McCabe
HB: 6. G Strachan 35. K Declase 22. D Aujla
C: 21. C Barrett 37. T Jones 5. J Cyster
HF: 41. J Cripps 29. B Casley 23. H Kerbatieh
F: 80. M Korcheck 18. D Gorringe 9. J Corboy
R: 73. A Aurrichio 12. Z Ballard 25. A Brown
Int: 30. S Bolger 74. B Malual 70. S Peet 61. L McVeigh 53. H Payne 77. L Hickey 75. C Le Favi 13. C Adams 40. B Droessler 45. D Stevens 57. D O'Leary 71. J Caruana 64. L Jacques
    
Coburg Lions
B: 62. L Ryan 27. K Staples 13. M Stillman
HB: 20. N Robortella 38. J Clarke 37. K Posar
C: 49. T McConville 18. M Merlo 28. D McDonald
HF: 42. J Kalanj 17. D Hill 5. J Cauchi
F: 45. R Bamblett 43. T Sutherland 32. R Schraven
R: 6. M Orr 11. G McDonagh 15. J Iacobaccio
Int: 57. J Muscatello 30. J James 14. M Ercolano 54. C McRorie 50. C Urquhart 31. J Hickey 63. M King 46. R Free 36. J Hemala 44. J Madden 51. J Corigliano 52. M Conn 55. G Romios
 
From that it appears that both Korchek and Gorringe will NOT be playing this week for the NB 1's. How it goes otherwise, I have no guess.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 28, 2016, 08:37:35 pm
No SOS, Cuningham or Gowers.

Wish they'd keep us updated.
I hadn't noticed Silvagni missing: how could I miss that!??! No idea what that means, but I am feeling somewhat like a mushroom at this point.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 28, 2016, 09:30:37 pm
(http://northernbluesfc.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/R4-Bertocchi-23.png)
According to the NB's website, Silvagni is 'unavailable'.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Barbs on April 28, 2016, 10:07:47 pm
Will be interesting to see how JGM goes if he mans up Cloke during the match.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 30, 2016, 02:54:30 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChQoNBaW4AAlYeU.jpg:large)
White and Tutt held out as emergencies; Smith and Glass-McCasker withdrawn from the squad.
These guys out really makes a difference to our team.

Not a good start.
NB 9 COLL 39
Something of a wind and, during the 2nd quarter, we aren't using it yet. 3 quick points.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 30, 2016, 02:59:11 pm
AFL Victoria Development League
Northern Blues   5.3  5.5  7.10  8.11 (59)
Coburg   1.1  8.7  10.10  17.14 (116)

GOALS:
Northern Blues: Jacques 2 Peet 2 Bolger  Hickey  Aurrichio  Stevens
Coburg: Cauchi 3 Ercolano 3 Iacobaccio 2 Urquhart 2 Merlo 2 Hill 2 Orr  McRorie  Free

BEST:
Northern Blues: Aurrichio O'Leary McCabe Cripps Stevens Declase
Coburg: Ercolano McConville Hill Corigliano Sutherland Cauchi

What a shocking way to start the day!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 30, 2016, 03:03:51 pm
NB 23
COLL 45

Goal from DVR and a good one.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 30, 2016, 03:17:56 pm
Northern Blues 3 - 6 - 24
Collingwood 8 - 10 - 58
A miserable game so far. Especially as Collingwood were so bad last week.

GOALS: Roos, Dick, Viojo-Rainbow.
DISPOSALS: Kerbatieh 15, Everitt 12, Wilson 11, Ballard 10, Casley 10, Dick 10.

Good to see Everitt doing OK, and apparently playing with intent. But where are the other Carlton listed players?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 30, 2016, 04:30:49 pm
22 minutes into the last term:
NB 83
COLL 99
Jakch just goaled.

NB 89
COLL 99
Goal to Casley.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Lods on April 30, 2016, 04:36:31 pm
91 to 100 close to the end...Call the finish crash :D
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 30, 2016, 04:37:01 pm
Blues 91
Pies 100
Probably not enough time to make up the difference.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 30, 2016, 04:39:39 pm
Collingwood look like they are doing enough. Not enough clean possession.
Damn, the siren sounds and Blue fail by 9 points.
Much better 2nd half than first half.

Foster hit the post with about 2 minutes to go. Had it gone through.....
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on April 30, 2016, 04:52:32 pm
Northern Blues 13 - 13 - 91
Meat Pies 14 - 16 - 100

Late changes were probably the difference in the end, as we started poorly and couldn't make up the difference.
Missing Silvagni, McCasker, Smith, White, Tutt, Cunningham, to go with Armfield's promotion. Jamo appparenty did not come back on from early in the 2nd quarter. Everitt officially replaces Jamo as emergency at half time as well. Makes a huge difference to a young side.

GOALS: Casley 2, Gallucci 2, Wilson 2, Dick, Gorringe, Jaksch, Jones, Kerbatieh, Roos, Viojo-Rainbow

DISPOSALS: Everitt 27, Wilson 25, Kerbatieh 24, Dick 23, McGuinness 19, Wood 18, Viojo-Rainbow 18.

Everitt responded as we would wish him to.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: DJC on April 30, 2016, 06:32:15 pm
Everitt had 27 disposals in a half  :o

No wonder he has been added to the 25!

I know that it's often difficult to play really well when the standard is far below what you're used too, but it's good to see a senior player really stepping up in the NBs.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Lods on April 30, 2016, 06:36:41 pm
Everitt
Play him at full forward for heaven's sake.
He has his problems defensively but he's our best forward.



...at present :D
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: kruddler on April 30, 2016, 06:41:14 pm
Everitt
Play him at full forward for heaven's sake.
He has his problems defensively but he's our best forward.



...at present :D

Michael Jamison could probably get a game as our best FF at present, and he kicks 1 goal every 74 games!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on April 30, 2016, 06:48:52 pm
Just got back from the game... simply awful until half time. In the first qtr it was as if our blokes thought that Rottingwood was kicking with a 10 goal gale (it was about a 3 goal wind) and were simply content to tackle hard and go all out negating which was a terrible tactic/attitude - lost the game in the first qtr against pretty ordinary opposition. In fact, our first qtr was one of the worst qtrs of football I've ever seen.

The entire game, from our point of view, was marred by so many terrible decisions - kicking to blokes out numbered, handballing to blokes in worse positions, kick and hope into the forward line and absolutely not understanding how to play when blustery.

We had 9 CFC blokes (including our international rookie, Korcheck) and the rest were Preston blokes.

After half time our blokes were suddenly fair-dinkum and it was a much better game to watch though the dumb decisions persisted. Really missed some senior CFC player talent. There's no doubt had there been just 2 or 3 CFC players we would have won. In the first half it was the old story... we were so bad that we made them look good.

Don't be mislead by the number of possessions Everitt got. In hard contests he gave very little and even gave up possession too easily and a missed tackle in our forward line was a howler resulting in the Dagpies running the ball the length of the ground and goaling. In the second half when everyone had lifted Everitt was better and did some good things ...but demand recall? I wouldn't think so... when it was hard going he wasn't sighted and I would have thought that for a senior CFC listed bloke he would have shown some leadership and mongrel. For mine, still too soft but his skills were clearly better than many around him at times. When I saw he had 27 possessions I found it hard to believe. Love to know the effectiveness of them. And if he makes the best players I'll know that someone is bullsh1tting us.

On a more positive note... for mine Dick was probably the best 4 qtr CFC listed bloke, followed by Rainbow. I was also pleased to see Foster more involved and he was one of the few with good foot skills on the day (along with Rainbow). He has certainly improved over the weeks and with McCasker out he and Jaksch shared tall defender responsibilities (though Jaksch went forward when we had the wind).

Good - Dick, Rainbow and Wood.

Serviceable - Gallucci, Foster and Korcheck. The big American boy really competes hard and keeps getting a little better each time. Took some good grabs and actually did some hard and effective work at ground level as well.

Jaksch was used in attack and defence. Took a couple of nice grabs and kicked a good long goal... but, sheesh, he is so 1982 - straight lines, mark, kick, and that is it.

(a kid called Kerbatieh is worth keeping our eyes on... really impressive and did some very good things today... a very real future rookie prospect).

Willow was the best Preston boy by a mile... and emptied about 10 litres of fluid from his guts on the boundary line in front of us... nice!

Gorringe - Pfft.

Ps Everitt played the entire game... not a half.

Cheers.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: PaulP on April 30, 2016, 06:54:45 pm
Thanks as always for that Baggers.

Not great reading about that first half. I suppose redemption came in the second (sort of).
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Gointocarlton on April 30, 2016, 06:56:08 pm
@Baggers
Thanks mate, top report.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: cookie2 on April 30, 2016, 07:46:12 pm
Thanks Baggers for the report. Not a lot to get too carried away with today from what you are saying.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: MilkIt on April 30, 2016, 08:51:06 pm
Does anybody know where Cuningham is gone? I've tweeted Northern Blues and CFC a couple of times but get no reply.

#cuninghamconspiracy
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: bratblue on April 30, 2016, 08:53:36 pm
Given the handful of games Korcheck has played in his life it looks like we've got a monster win there. The drafting of 2015 is looking better and better.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: DJC on April 30, 2016, 08:55:31 pm
So, if Everitt played the full game, the chances of him getting a call up tomorrow are pretty slim.  ???
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on April 30, 2016, 09:09:49 pm
So, if Everitt played the full game, the chances of him getting a call up tomorrow are pretty slim.  ???

Specially considering that emergencies White and Tutt will be available ahead of him...
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on May 01, 2016, 08:44:51 pm
Just got back from the game... simply awful until half time. In the first qtr it was as if our blokes thought that Rottingwood was kicking with a 10 goal gale (it was about a 3 goal wind) and were simply content to tackle hard and go all out negating which was a terrible tactic/attitude - lost the game in the first qtr against pretty ordinary opposition. In fact, our first qtr was one of the worst qtrs of football I've ever seen.

The entire game, from our point of view, was marred by so many terrible decisions - kicking to blokes out numbered, handballing to blokes in worse positions, kick and hope into the forward line and absolutely not understanding how to play when blustery.

We had 9 CFC blokes (including our international rookie, Korcheck) and the rest were Preston blokes.

After half time our blokes were suddenly fair-dinkum and it was a much better game to watch though the dumb decisions persisted. Really missed some senior CFC player talent. There's no doubt had there been just 2 or 3 CFC players we would have won. In the first half it was the old story... we were so bad that we made them look good.

Don't be mislead by the number of possessions Everitt got. In hard contests he gave very little and even gave up possession too easily and a missed tackle in our forward line was a howler resulting in the Dagpies running the ball the length of the ground and goaling. In the second half when everyone had lifted Everitt was better and did some good things ...but demand recall? I wouldn't think so... when it was hard going he wasn't sighted and I would have thought that for a senior CFC listed bloke he would have shown some leadership and mongrel. For mine, still too soft but his skills were clearly better than many around him at times. When I saw he had 27 possessions I found it hard to believe. Love to know the effectiveness of them. And if he makes the best players I'll know that someone is bullsh1tting us.

On a more positive note... for mine Dick was probably the best 4 qtr CFC listed bloke, followed by Rainbow. I was also pleased to see Foster more involved and he was one of the few with good foot skills on the day (along with Rainbow). He has certainly improved over the weeks and with McCasker out he and Jaksch shared tall defender responsibilities (though Jaksch went forward when we had the wind).

Good - Dick, Rainbow and Wood.

Serviceable - Gallucci, Foster and Korcheck. The big American boy really competes hard and keeps getting a little better each time. Took some good grabs and actually did some hard and effective work at ground level as well.

Jaksch was used in attack and defence. Took a couple of nice grabs and kicked a good long goal... but, sheesh, he is so 1982 - straight lines, mark, kick, and that is it.

(a kid called Kerbatieh is worth keeping our eyes on... really impressive and did some very good things today... a very real future rookie prospect).

Willow was the best Preston boy by a mile... and emptied about 10 litres of fluid from his guts on the boundary line in front of us... nice!

Gorringe - Pfft.

Ps Everitt played the entire game... not a half.

Cheers.
Thanks for the report. Nice to read something from the guys who are on the spot.

I find it rather remarkable that we can name so MANY Carlton listed players to have so few actually play. What a difference it makes when the leadership from guys like White and Armfield isn't there!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on May 02, 2016, 08:31:41 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/m734YMS.png)
Interesting statistics.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 02, 2016, 08:35:47 pm
Nice game from Cameron Wood.....been a value rookie pick .
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: DJC on May 03, 2016, 02:10:03 pm
Josh Fraser's player appraisal:

Quote
26. Matthew Dick

Stats: 23 disposals, nine marks, six handball receives, one goal

From the coach: It was another solid game in defence, who was more composed with his decision making and skill execution against Collingwood. He put in a good shift and a four-quarter performance.

20. Andrejs Everitt

Stats: 27 disposals, six marks, seven inside-50s, four clearances

From the coach: ‘Dre’ worked really hard up and down the ground. He set the tone with high-speed running and he found plenty of the ball playing between the arcs and up forward.

31. Jayden Foster

Stats: 18 disposals, four marks, nine handball receives

From the coach: Jayden continues to improve in one-on-one contests, and he was another defender that found plenty of the ball and used it well. He continues to work areas of his game that need improvement.

56. Andrew Gallucci

Stats: 11 disposals, seven handball receives, one goal

From the coach: It wasn’t the four-quarter impact that we were hoping for, but it was a much-improved second half. He kicked two important goals in the last quarter and offered good presence at ground level.

18. Daniel Gorringe

Stats: 11 disposals, five marks, one goal

From the coach: His second half was quite impressive after a slow start: he played on a wing at times and made Jesse White accountable, and he certainly got better as the game went on.

48. Kristian Jaksch

Stats: 11 disposals, four marks, four inside-50s, one goal

From the coach: There was some inconsistency from ‘KJ’ in competing in the air, but he had some pivotal moments where he marked the ball forward of centre. He had a much-improved second half and got some exposure at both ends of the ground.

27. Michael Jamison

From the coach: ‘Jamo’ started really well, with some brutal efforts in the contest to spoil in the air: we certainly missed his presence when he went off with concussion midway through the first quarter.

80. Matthew Korcheck

Stats: Four disposals, three marks, 14 hitouts

From the coach: He continues to learn the game and get valuable experience, while he took a couple of marks and had a shot on goal. He’ll grow in confidence as the games go on.

65. Dillon Viojo-Rainbow

Stats: 18 disposals (12 contested), six handball receives, one goal

From the coach: It was another solid game from Dillon where he played in a variety of roles and used the ball well. He got back to support in defence and got some exposure in the clinches as an inside midfielder in the second half.

36. Cameron Wood

Stats: 18 disposals, six marks, four inside-50s, six clearances, 34 hitouts

From the coach: It was a really good game from ‘Woody’, who set the tone with aggressiveness around stoppages and worked hard on spread to create another option in offence.

If the coach knows his business, Jamison (subject to concussion), Everitt and Viojo-Rainbow would be most likely to get a call up.

Unless it's just the coach pumping tyres up (and I doubt that it is), it's good to see improvement in the performances of new blokes and players who didn't seem tp make progress last season.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: cookie2 on May 03, 2016, 03:11:50 pm
Josh Fraser's player appraisal:

If the coach knows his business, Jamison (subject to concussion), Everitt and Viojo-Rainbow would be most likely to get a call up.

Unless it's just the coach pumping tyres up (and I doubt that it is), it's good to see improvement in the performances of new blokes and players who didn't seem tp make progress last season.

From reading that I get a strong sense that Fraser is making it very clear to players what they need to do to  improve to the required level and earn a senior game. Very encouraging.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: cimm1979 on May 03, 2016, 03:36:58 pm
Few blokes treading water in the magoos.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: cookie2 on May 03, 2016, 04:07:08 pm
Few blokes treading water in the magoos.

Better to fully evaluate them there rather than sticking them in the seniors before they're ready I guess? Sometimes we may have no choice due to injuries but best avoided. Some will improve and those that don't will go no doubt - all part of list building.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Mick on May 03, 2016, 04:35:28 pm
Does anybody know where Cuningham is gone? I've tweeted Northern Blues and CFC a couple of times but get no reply.

#cuninghamconspiracy

Been wondering this too. He's not listed on our injury list either. Is he playing VFL reserves or does he just not exist.  :o
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: jeza on May 03, 2016, 04:42:08 pm
Few blokes treading water in the magoos.

I was looking at it the other way - DVR really improving this year. Foster played his first half decent game. Dick showing very strong form. Jaksch kicking goals. Seem to be a few guys finally coming good.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on May 03, 2016, 04:51:50 pm
Been wondering this too. He's not listed on our injury list either. Is he playing VFL reserves or does he just not exist.  :o

Hip.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Baggers on May 03, 2016, 05:01:27 pm
I was looking at it the other way - DVR really improving this year. Foster played his first half decent game. Dick showing very strong form. Jaksch kicking goals. Seem to be a few guys finally coming good.

Agree JEZA. It might be a bit frustrating that for some the improvement is slow, but better that than backwards! I really thought that for the first time I saw signs that Foster is improving on Saturday... it was really encouraging to see, especially his disposal - good stuff. Dick has probably been the most consistent of our boys playing for the NBs. Jaksch is still a little inconsistent for mine but good to see him at least working on second efforts.

What's encouraging is that you can really see the boys are all on the same page and when they're not lapsing, they actually put together some good footy. Hopefully the first qtr from Saturday is something they'll never repeat.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: cimm1979 on May 03, 2016, 05:21:25 pm
Agree JEZA. It might be a bit frustrating that for some the improvement is slow, but better that than backwards! I really thought that for the first time I saw signs that Foster is improving on Saturday... it was really encouraging to see, especially his disposal - good stuff. Dick has probably been the most consistent of our boys playing for the NBs. Jaksch is still a little inconsistent for mine but good to see him at least working on second efforts.

What's encouraging is that you can really see the boys are all on the same page and when they're not lapsing, they actually put together some good footy. Hopefully the first qtr from Saturday is something they'll never repeat.

That's a bit more encouraging I guess .

Some of the reports on the guys read a bit similar every week from Fraser.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: cookie2 on May 03, 2016, 05:34:40 pm
Does anybody know where Cuningham is gone? I've tweeted Northern Blues and CFC a couple of times but get no reply.

#cuninghamconspiracy

He's now shown on the latest injury list as Hip, 1 week away.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 03, 2016, 06:36:16 pm
Agree JEZA. It might be a bit frustrating that for some the improvement is slow, but better that than backwards! I really thought that for the first time I saw signs that Foster is improving on Saturday... it was really encouraging to see, especially his disposal - good stuff. Dick has probably been the most consistent of our boys playing for the NBs. Jaksch is still a little inconsistent for mine but good to see him at least working on second efforts.

What's encouraging is that you can really see the boys are all on the same page and when they're not lapsing, they actually put together some good footy. Hopefully the first qtr from Saturday is something they'll never repeat.
Goodness me, could this be de... de... dev.... deve.... develop.....development? What is this strange concept?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 4: Northern Blues vs Collingwood
Post by: crashlander on May 03, 2016, 07:19:12 pm
Goodness me, could this be de... de... dev.... deve.... develop.....development? What is this strange concept?
:) What a strange concept to see at Carlton!
Please, sir, can I have some more?