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Lily Of Laguna => Ladies Lounge => Topic started by: Gointocarlton on September 04, 2016, 04:24:58 pm

Title: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: Gointocarlton on September 04, 2016, 04:24:58 pm
Serious stuff.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2016-09-04/carlton-fc-statement
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: cookie2 on September 04, 2016, 04:58:07 pm
Serious stuff.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/2016-09-04/carlton-fc-statement

Wow! Sounds like they may have an idea re. who might be responsible??
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: LoveNavy on September 04, 2016, 05:42:15 pm
Excuse my ignorance, if you haven't already ;). What's been stolen exactly??
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: kruddler on September 04, 2016, 06:10:38 pm
Excuse my ignorance, if you haven't already ;). What's been stolen exactly??

It seems to be some potentially important info in regards to who we are targetting in the draft(s).
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: LoveNavy on September 04, 2016, 06:28:53 pm
Is that like leaked information?
Gee if so, that could really spoil our chances and potentially our bigger plans too. couldn't it?
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: kruddler on September 04, 2016, 06:31:35 pm
Is that like leaked information?
Gee if so, that could really spoil our chances and potentially our bigger plans too. couldn't it?

Kinda.

Its more like someone reading your diary. ;)

You have things in there that nobody is supposed to know about.
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: cookie2 on September 04, 2016, 06:44:56 pm
Could prove costly as our negioation positions could have been compromised.
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: Baggers on September 04, 2016, 06:55:43 pm
Seems to be the recruiting strategy for our women's league side.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-04/carlton-investigating-alleged-theft-of-womens-plan
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: Lods on September 04, 2016, 07:00:24 pm
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The Blues released a statement on Sunday, outlining their concerns after a website posted what it claimed to be Carlton's recruitment plans for its women's team.

Anyone know what website it was published on?

(edit..Reading that a Collingwood Bigfooty poster entered a room where the names of targeted draftees were listed and took a snap.)
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: madbluboy on September 04, 2016, 08:42:55 pm
Is that illegal?
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: mateinone on September 04, 2016, 09:49:54 pm
Need a lawyer to give a view, but corporate espionage is certainly illegal.
And certainly stealing Intellectual Property can see significant damages awarded to those that have the data stolen.
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: kruddler on September 04, 2016, 09:53:33 pm
Anyone know what website it was published on?

(edit..Reading that a Collingwood Bigfooty poster entered a room where the names of targeted draftees were listed and took a snap.)

I've found one photo which has a list of 10 or so names on it and is a breakdown of forwards we are looking at. Along with a list of key attributes to look for.

Not sure if there are similar for mids and backs.....or whatever else there may have been though
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: madbluboy on September 05, 2016, 08:04:31 am
Need a lawyer to give a view, but corporate espionage is certainly illegal.
And certainly stealing Intellectual Property can see significant damages awarded to those that have the data stolen.

Yeah I'm  just wondering if taking a photo of a white board qualifies?

Where was the board so that a Collingwood  fan could take a snap?
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: DJC on September 05, 2016, 09:44:33 am
Yeah I'm  just wondering if taking a photo of a white board qualifies?

Where was the board so that a Collingwood  fan could take a snap?

Fairfax has decided not to publish the photograph(s) so the threat contained in the club's statement must carry some weight.
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: cookie2 on September 05, 2016, 11:27:31 am
Seems to be the recruiting strategy for our women's league side.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-09-04/carlton-investigating-alleged-theft-of-womens-plan

At first I thought it involved both our senior and women's recruitment strategies. Having the women's info stolen is bad enough but at least the senior list does not seem to be involved, where there could have been a bigger financial impact.
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: Brettie on September 05, 2016, 12:37:06 pm
Heart skipped a beat when I first saw the backpage headline this morning......then realised it was for the women's league and couldn't give a krap after that......
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: madbluboy on September 05, 2016, 12:49:02 pm
Fairfax has decided not to publish the photograph(s) so the threat contained in the club's statement must carry some weight.

Leaving top secret information on a whiteboard is amateur stuff from an amateur club.
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on September 05, 2016, 02:59:03 pm
Heart skipped a beat when I first saw the backpage headline this morning......then realised it was for the women's league and couldn't give a krap after that......

Agree....
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: LP on September 05, 2016, 03:05:40 pm
Leaving top secret information on a whiteboard is amateur stuff from an amateur club.

Agreed.

The police action threat will be because they are not sure what else the perpetrator photographed, in terms of the other whiteboards, posters or printouts that were left lying around!

They might even be worried this wasn't the first occurrence, just the first one they found out about! :o
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: cookie2 on September 05, 2016, 04:23:13 pm
Reminds me of a time when I worked at a large corporate in Melbourne and was working on a particular project. We held a project meeting in a conference room which had one of those revolving electronic whiteboards, which initially showed a blank surface. We used that first surface to record information discussed and someone then pressed the copy button and the surface moved around, only to reveal some very sensitive and embarrassing information from a previous meeting concerning staff.

This info.  had now pretty much potentially become public! We were all required to sign a non-disclosure agreement before we were allowed of of the room! A very embarrassing situation for the people who'd failed to erase the whiteboard.  :-[
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: Mav on September 05, 2016, 04:37:13 pm
The police may have a role if the photograph was taken from inside a private area - criminal trespass.  Just because you attend a meeting in a building doesn't mean you're free to access all areas.  If you go where you shouldn't be and take documents, then that would be burglary.  If you break into computers on site or online, that's another crime.  And taking surveillance photos through external windows is another crime.  You'd have to know what the precise facts are.  But don't assume the police can't charge you if you wander into a private office or meeting room and read or photograph documents.

Hell, in some countries it's an offence to take a photo of a government building from a public place.
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: shadesy on September 05, 2016, 05:41:52 pm
Heart skipped a beat when I first saw the backpage headline this morning......then realised it was for the women's league and couldn't give a krap after that......

They went to take a photo of the Men's draft, but the first few names were Watson, Lucas, Bootsma, Boekhorst followed by a dartboard and decided it wasnt worth it.
Title: Re: Statement from CFC - Theft of IP
Post by: Gointocarlton on September 05, 2016, 08:12:09 pm
They went to take a photo of the Men's draft, but the first few names were Watson, Lucas, Bootsma, Boekhorst followed by a dartboard and decided it wasnt worth it.
LMFAO ;D