Interesting to see how we go with out Covid headaches.
Again, the midfield fired with mid-30s possessions all around. Cripps dominant and kicked 2. Charlie Curnow took his turn under the spotlight and Harry was brilliant too. Jack Silvagni is the little engine that could. Pitto came back well.
Now we have Cerra and Martin to come back in and another VFL game will allow us to audition for any spots that might open up. Life is good.
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Great interview performance by Weiters. Boy has he gained some confidence and poise! Great to see.
So many firsts but the most impressive thing was through adversity, to a man/woman at the club, they rose.
That horror patch in the last was tough to watch, but the dig deep and settled, impressive.
In the words of Mick Jagger on 'Get Yer Ya Yas Out' .....'Charlie's Good Tonight!'
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And the Bulldogs might be last by the end of round 2
Lochie O'Brien's best game for the club? I can't think of another.
Not sure what to say. Think I’m a bit shell shocked tbh.
Was at the game and rode the roller coaster that was.
The accurate kicking and handballing - in the main, went to crap a few times - was so nice to watch. The fumbles were weird and seemed to coincide with Omac going off…
Great win - Carlton’s biggest thing has always been not being able to withstand real pressure. We succeeded on that front tonight 👏🏽
It’s been a long while that I’ve felt this buoyant about the club. I know it’s early days, but I think we’ll be playing finals this year, injuries permitting.
We still have a way to go because I thought we'd bottle it, but luckily the bulldogs can't kick straight.
Lochie O'Brien's best game for the club? I can't think of another.
Probably was. He wanted it tonight. Setters wasn't bad either. Durdin was great early, but died out of the game when our forward movements started getting scrappy. Same with Owies.
Probably a better way to win for our development with them coming at us in the second half then if they just rolled over. We still at times looked a little shaky but as opposed to previous years we have a better system to deal with things when the opposition has the momentum and at the end of the day. Last year we would have been over ridden and lost this one by 3-4 goals. Amazing the difference when we are coached by someone who can actually coach and what a few midfield recruits coming in the off season could do. Who would of thought.
Finally how good again was our captain tonight. He’s faster then ever, Is kicking goals and impossible to tackle. The bloke is a machine. And to think there were those on here who argued why he should have been traded out.
Omg, Can you Imagine…….
Fantastic performance overall.
The dogs fought back well. Lucky for us they couldn’t kick straight. I thought we looked a bit cooked 4q but had the leadership and composure to hang on. Although a couple of those brain fade kick ins had me feeling nervous.
I was critical last week but Credit to LOB. Aside a late ootf, he played an important role and tidied up his disposal and showed some composure when it counted.
Carlton Mid - Full Strength 🍺
They were super against a quality midfield. Loved George’s switch to tame the Bont when he warmed up.
Kudos to the coaches and players under the duress of CV and a pack of fighting dogs 🐶
We saw the first of Harry and Charlie working out how to play together. That in itself was reason for joy - they will terrorise defenders.
Charlie is such a confidence player, and the mojo was back.
I was hoping we'd be 2-2 after 4 games. Well that's been fixed by Round 2.....
It's easy to forget just how good the WBs are. But we were strong enough to match them.
Blemishes? Sure, but they were few and far between. Our midfield is something else.
Loved the midfield dominance.
Walshy was influential but was untidy in patches.
Crippa needs a left foot.
LOB, still not sold but that's me.
How long has this idea of kicking to a leading forward been around? Who ever thought of that needs a raise.
The team defence thing, Doc mentioned in his interview that it was great but hard work, probably why we ran out of legs in the last.
We looked settled. Well done Vossy, so glad we didn't end up with Lyon.
The coaches seem to call a spade, a spade which is quite refreshing. None of this learning his craft or green shoots bull sh/t.
Now onto the Dawks.
The hebejebes set in during the last quarter but they got through, every time they have a win like this some of their doubt ebbs away, and they will be more resilient and durable next time they find themselves in that position.
For now it's still some of the same offenders making the same mistakes, the kick in hope and the pressured disposal, but they'll get better as they grow in confidence about those around them.
Dogs did a great job of keeping Gov, Weiters, De Koning and our talls in general away from intercepting the footy, they just were very disciplined at getting in the way. I hope we learn from that!
We still have a way to go because I thought we'd bottle it, but luckily the bulldogs can't kick straight.
True, but factor in:
- Martin and Cerra out with Covid
- Almost a totally different coaching staff in the box
- Lost Omac during the game
Against last years grand finalists that was a bloody great effort if you ask me.
The Doggies couldn’t kick straight in the last because they were fatigued. Why were they fatigued? BECAUSE WE SMASHED THEM in the first 2 and a bit quarters.
We always struggled in the past to get that extra goal to create that psychological gap. Great signs all round.
LOB’s tackle best since Fraser Brown?
The hebejebes set in during the last quarter …
….still some of the same offenders making the same mistakes, the kick in hope and the pressured disposal, but they'll get better as they grow in confidence about those around them.
Won’t it be nice when the heebee jeebies don’t factor in to our games anymore and we can sit back and enjoy it more!! My heart was racing in the last, really didn’t want to lose that after such a dominant display early.
Re same offenders yes but add in a few trusted folk - was something off with Saad last night? He kept doing dinky kicks and it nearly stuffed us in the last.
Re same offenders yes but add in a few trusted folk - was something off with Saad last night? He kept doing dinky kicks and it nearly stuffed us in the last.
@Micky0 It's contagious, we saw Saad, Doc, Newman, LoB, Setters, Gov, Fisher and Pitto all get nervous and do a few things, we also saw blokes stop doing the team thing as they become hesitant.
For example a couple of times Kennedy and Cripps win tough inside footy and handball to nobody or even an opponent, that is not the fault of Kennedy or Cripps, the problem is there was a player from our team who did not get to where he should be, got lost or was late getting there, whereas the opponents were there in the right place and on time!
Some of that is still a result of the newness of the Voss regime, they won't get it all correct 100% of the time.
Think about this though, what is the team potential when they start to get it right under extreme pressure?
Being able to win ugly against last years grand finalist who are not yet on the board for this season is not such a bad thing!
Meh, anyone can coach Carlton to a win… apparently.
Great game from Pittonet who is a now a very decent ruckman and gave us 1st use.
Dogs stuffed up by not playing two rucks imho. Cripps, Kennedy and crew dominated most of the game and Charlie and Harry finished off their work up forward. Yep we hung on and got the wobbles at the end but it was still a very complete win.
Even the whipping boy LOB came to play and it was probably his best game for the club like others have said.
Still not convinced on him, and Setterfield but credit where it's due LOB was a good contributor vs good opposition.
Bevo looked like a stunned mullet most of the night and missing Josh Bruce has really hurt their structure.
Finals looks a real possibilty now and banking wins early is the key.
Very impressed with Ash Hansen and his knowledge of the game when he spoke well at the presser too.
The Doggies couldn’t kick straight in the last because they were fatigued. Why were they fatigued? BECAUSE WE SMASHED THEM in the first 2 and a bit quarters.
We always struggled in the past to get that extra goal to create that psychological gap. Great signs all round.
LOB’s tackle best since Fraser Brown?
We often highlight the fact that opposition teams "couldn't kick straight". We do it, the media does it.
Granted, the doggies may have won had they kicked straight in the last... but wasn't it also our poor disposal in the last quarter, especially the kick ins, that gave them the opportunity to do so?
I think the boys might have been a bit fatigued in the last. 2 big games early on against good sides. Hard running both ways is hard to maintain. A nice 10 day break should see them refreshed for the Hawks.
One thing Saad must do ... stop flying in forward line packs when you have no hope at the intercept. Stay down to guard against a spill to a forward. Cost us a goal last night
One thing Saad must do ... stop flying in forward line packs when you have no hope at the intercept. Stay down to guard against a spill to a forward. Cost us a goal last night
I was a bit confused by the media commentary about a terrific D50, I thought last night our defence was not bad but was one of our weaker attributes on the night.
Rnd 1 the D50 looked rock solid, last night the Dogs cleverly pulled it apart, we were quite lucky that a lot of pressure was applied by our Mids and HFFs because if we had played like millionaires, as we have done in the past, we would have been trounced. Ironic for us given the flaws of the past, that last night our Mids were basically our saviours.
Because of the way the Dogs created some chaos in our D50, our players like Williams, Doc, Saad and Newman looked indecisive at times.
I think Pittonet had a good game in the ruck, De Koning not so much, however quite a few times Pitto and De Koning got in the way of both our KPFs and KPDs, this will need some fine tuning. De Koning did do a couple of nice things around the ground that either saved us or helped us score.
I was glad to see Weiters and Gov resort to the big punches in the last quarter, they were learning to deal with the Dogs interference patterns on the fly!
True, but factor in:
- Martin and Cerra out with Covid
- Almost a totally different coaching staff in the box
- Lost Omac during the game
Against last years grand finalists that was a bloody great effort if you ask me.
Yeah but they were missing Bailey Smith, and the bont almost missed and wasn't his usual pain on the backside self. Naughton also couldn't kick which is unlike him.
Our performance was good but we lost our way in the second half but held on.
Note the fact I thought we were going to bottle it and didn't is both good and bad. Good because we didn't, bad because even though it was a game we didn't really look like losing the fact that I thought we weren't home with a comfortable lead is part of the issue.
One thing Saad must do ... stop flying in forward line packs when you have no hope at the intercept. Stay down to guard against a spill to a forward. Cost us a goal last night
One thing the Doggies do well is blocking in F50. I remember one example late in the game where the ball was kicked to around 40m out towards Naughton/Weitering & Weightman/Saad. Weightman turned around to face Weitering and acted like a Defensive Tackle in the NFL, putting open hands either on or near Weitering's shoulders. He moved a bit left & right but it only lasted a second or 2. Meanwhile, Naughton took advantage to run at the ball and leap, and Saad had no option but to follow and try to apply some pressure. Of course, Saad got nowhere near it and Naughton took an easy mark. It was as subtle as it was effective.
Yes, that was just 1 example but I'm guessing there was a fair bit of work being done to stop Weitering and the Gov being able to access the ball, creating mismatches for their forwards.
One thing the Doggies do well is blocking in F50. I remember one example late in the game where the ball was kicked to around 40m out towards Naughton/Weitering & Weightman/Saad. Weightman turned around to face Weitering and acted like a Defensive Tackle in the NFL, putting open hands either on or near Weitering's shoulders. He moved a bit left & right but it only lasted a second or 2. Meanwhile, Naughton took advantage to run at the ball and leap, and Saad had no option but to follow and try to apply some pressure. Of course, Saad got nowhere near it and Naughton took an easy mark. It was as subtle as it was effective.
Yes, that was just 1 example but I'm guessing there was a fair bit of work being done to stop Weitering and the Gov being able to access the ball, creating mismatches for their forwards.
The AFL has so many umpires on the ground now, they should focus on stopping this off the ball stuff and completely ignore the trivial contacts between direct opponents that they continually reward. A good example is that one on one between Weiters and Naughton, Naughton holds Weiters by the collar of the jumper, Weiters has and arm around Naughton's waist, they are in physical combat, but the umpire arbitrarily rewards a free kick.
Fans want to see the one on one battle, we don't want to see some $10 tagging spud shepherding the stars 15m away from the contest!
I abhor what Weightman did, if he wants to get in the way put his body on the line like LoB did at the feet of the KPDs a week earlier, like Owies and Durdin did multiple times last night standing under the ball!
I am not sure Charlie is anywhere near his best yet. His five goals indicate what he could do if he does meet his potential. I still think we are one key defender short on our list. McDonald going down could cause problems. Big chance for Young to show his wears. Marchbank is still a way off. I thought Plowman did a good job when he cam on. The other option if we have more problems in this area is for Silvagni to go back there.
As I keep saying, if you can't kick the ball to your team mates you don't have a game plan. The last fifteen minutes was a worry when we couldn't his a target coming out of defence. The team obviously tired, and our skills dropped off, but I think they panicked a bit while also trying to be too careful. The players have just got to trust their skills. I like the fact that they are using their non-preferred foot when kicking at times rather than trying to get onto their preferred side. That second or two they save in time doing that helps to move the ball forward quicker.
Our team discipline work still needs improvement. There was an incident where Kennedy handballed the ball backwards to no one which may seem like an error on his part but in fact a team mate should have been there. That is the strength of a team like Sydney. There is always someone there.
The Bulldogs are a good team that played well for three and a half quarters, but when we went in the second quarter, they weren't able to go with us. Things are looking good and while I don't think we should get ahead of ourselves, I have booked myself in for my Premiership Threepete Tattoo.
I am not sure Charlie is anywhere near his best yet. His five goals indicate what he could do if he does meet his potential. I still think we are one key defender short on our list. McDonald going down could cause problems. Big chance for Young to show his wears. Marchbank is still a way off. I thought Plowman did a good job when he cam on. The other option if we have more problems in this area is for Silvagni to go back there.
Do not forget Kemp.
Yeah but they were missing Bailey Smith, and the bont almost missed and wasn't his usual pain on the backside self. Naughton also couldn't kick which is unlike him.
Our performance was good but we lost our way in the second half but held on.
Note the fact I thought we were going to bottle it and didn't is both good and bad. Good because we didn't, bad because even though it was a game we didn't really look like losing the fact that I thought we weren't home with a comfortable lead is part of the issue.
I think our "disadvantages" outweighed theirs. I the past we would have lost that game and not hung on. In the 3 games (Melb, Rich, WB) thus far, I see a steely resolve and grit that I havent seen for a long time. It will grow even more with confidence. The trick for the coaches will be to keep those confidence levels balanced. I dont want to see cockiness, just a ruthless resolve to get the job done whether it be by 1 pt or 1000 pts. I am loving what I am seeing.
Just watched the last qtr. We struggled to get to contests in that last 10 min and when we did have the ball we kicked it straight to them in the F50 or out on the full. Fortunately all their shots were from 45 to 50m and only in directly in front so weren't dead easy. They had a run-on if 5 points in 3 minutes.
Just watched the last qtr. We struggled to get to contests in that last 10 min and when we did have the ball we kicked it straight to them in the F50 or out on the full. Fortunately all their shots were from 45 to 50m and only in directly in front so weren't dead easy. They had a run-on if 5 points in 3 minutes.
That was our worst period in the three games this year. You could see the confidence drop and skill errors creep in. IIIRC It also coincided with Crip and Pitt being off the ground. As soon as they came back on, we steadied and to the teams credit though, they hung tough.
Apparently the doggies lost the game, we didn't win it.
Apparently the doggies lost the game, we didn't win it.
Just like the way the Ferals were the 2nd most pathetic team in the AFL last week, behind CheatsFC!
Be careful posting this stuff, you'll get labelled a conspiracy theorist! :o
So much to like in the first half, so much to dislike in the second.
I'm not a fan of Setterfield and probably never will be, twice he ran past a Dogs player with the ball preferring to guard space rather than tackle, his up & under kicking is hard to cop too.
I've never been a Plowman convert and as soon as he came onto the ground, we seemed to go to poop. This was partly to do with the inbalance created by McDonald going off but also because Plowman falters under pressure.
LOB tried hard but seems just that fraction behind the play and I can't see him being kept at the club because of it, the bluff & tackle on Richards was superb though.
On the positive side, there are a handful of players who are under the microscope this year and in principle, are playing for their future. McGovern, Fisher, Pittonet, Fogarty, Newman ....... even Owies, all have had good & bad times recently but there is a much more noticeable level of desperation from them. Doesn't mean they will all go the full distance but at least they have all bought in to the attitude & game-plan.
I was genuinely concerned in the second half, they came hard at us and the strong & assertive manner in which we played in the first half virtually disappeared. Had the Dogs been more accurate from their set shots, they would have run over us in the last.
We can thank small mercies they didn't all the while being mindful that a dominant first half does not always win you games against the good teams.
Hope they learn from the fluctuating fortunes in this match, use the 10-day break to freshen up and then really put the Hawks to the sword.
Carlton fans when we kick 6 goals 18 behinds- forget this rubbish about "if only we'd kicked straight" we were outplayed and crap kicking was a result of the pressure we put ourselves under
Carlton fans when we win but the opponent kicked 13 goals 12 behinds- If they'd kicked straight we would have lost that. We were lucky to win that.
We won the first half by 5 goals, they won the second by 3.
The first half was frenetic. We got tired, lost some structure and in some ways reverted to Carlton of recent times. They also seemed to tighten up and change a couple of things.
Yes, we held on, but if we had more petrol in the tank at the end, we possibly wouldn't have used so much in getting such a big lead (did it get out to 7 goals) in the first place. Who knows what would have happened.
A great aspect is that the workload is being shared - last week it wasn't the task forwards, this week it was, the mids have discussed. Hard for opposition to plan for.
Carlton fans when we kick 6 goals 18 behinds- forget this rubbish about "if only we'd kicked straight" we were outplayed and crap kicking was a result of the pressure we put ourselves under
Carlton fans when we win but the opponent kicked 13 goals 12 behinds- If they'd kicked straight we would have lost that. We were lucky to win that.
Yep, always easy to slap it down instead of calling it what it was…a good win against quality opposition
It was a very good win when you consider that all of the media experts were correctly tipping the Dogs to win.
The thing that really stands out to me is the maturity, resilience & attitude amongst the group, even though the Dogs threw everything at us in the second half we did not wilt and go into our shells like we would have last year under Teague.
Was it a case of fatigue getting the better of us or just that a more seasoned & experienced GF team flicked their own switch in the second half ?? Maybe a little bit of both.
It did became an ugly slog in the last because we were able to control the tempo better if it was played like that even though some genuine glitches in our game-plan and/or players work ethic were exposed by the Dogs. This will certainly be of great benefit to the coaches in their approach to player development & the teaching sessions.
It would have been an utter tragedy had we lost last night after that dominant & incredible first half.
However, this well deserved win cannot gloss over these underlying issues because the quicker we can identify them and in turn, rectify them, then we can dramatically improve our weekly performances to such a level that we will become a very serious contender.
We have improved, there is no doubting that, but we cannot get ahead of ourselves and starting talking Top 4, GF's or premierships, if we are brutally honest, we have done nothing of substance since 1995. We have a lot of ground to make-up after being in the footy wilderness for so long plus plenty of payback victories against some of the other clubs who have ridiculed us for years.
I know its an old adage but it has to be ONE WEEK AT A TIME !!!
A disciplined game plan executed by us until they changed their plan and for the first time in 20 years we then adapted our play to compensate. It took a quarter to do it in which time they came at us but we came out on top.
Huge coaching win. I’m on the Vosswagen! 👍
We outplayed the team who played in the grand final.
We dominated the team who played in the grand final for the first half.
We managed to hold on under enormous amount of pressure at the end.
We probably couldn't say any of the above at many (if any) points through the past decade.
The team FEELS Different. It doesn’t feel like the bad old days. They feel fresh and new, no more baggage.
I loved Murph but was pleased he had retired last night when I watched, like everyone the game had passed him by.
I just don’t feel these players are playing under that duress or X amount of ex coaches/first pick rhetoric. It feels… new. And I farking love it.
The team FEELS Different. It doesn’t feel like the bad old days. They feel fresh and new, no more baggage.
I loved Murph but was pleased he had retired last night when I watched, like everyone the game had passed him by.
I just don’t feel these players are playing under that duress or X amount of ex coaches/first pick rhetoric. It feels… new. And I farking love it.
Yep. To me, no-one looks confused or lost. Everyone appears to know their role, team structures and they execute. Sure, their will be bumps, but so far they look good.
A Win is a win is a win.
That is all.
Last week was a 4th quarter masterclass. This week was a 1st half masterclass. Both were against quality opposition proven to be well superior to us for many years.
We’re adjusting to an overhaul of every department from the clubhouse foundations to the senior coach. Evidently the team are aiming to master the fundamentals of a new game plan. Further layers of complexity will be added as the season goes on.
We are impacted by health protocol losing the senior coach and 2 from 22.
For the first time in decades the majority of commentary is positive. Seasoned commentators are discussing their Cripps man crushes on national tv🙄
We’re 2-0 for the first time in years. Regardless of any period of play or performance of any player, I’ll take that every day. It doesn’t mean we’re there yet but there’s something very promising unfolding on and off the field at Carlton.
Go Blues.
Winning must be making us all warm and fuzzy only 4 pages of comments!
If we lost there would be 14 on who’s fault it was and who to lynch 😉
Our best football, even for a 30 min stretch in a game is now good enough to put away some of the very best teams. Maybe this is our new brand, brutal surge football that breaks teams in short periods.
Our best football, even for a 30 min stretch in a game is now good enough to put away some of the very best teams. Maybe this is our new brand, brutal surge football that breaks teams in short periods.
Voss won't be targeting less than a full four qtrs!
Our best football, even for a 30 min stretch in a game is now good enough to put away some of the very best teams. Maybe this is our new brand, brutal surge football that breaks teams in short periods.
The Premiership quarter we used to play in the good ol days.
Winning must be making us all warm and fuzzy only 4 pages of comments!
If we lost there would be 14 on who’s fault it was and who to lynch 😉
Winning has always been bad for business. When we win the flag we might as well shut up the shop. :D
Winning has always been bad for business. When we win the flag we might as well shut up the shop. :D
I think we’re still all shellshocked!!
Season 2022. Two games. Two wins. That was our wildest dreams! Esp after the crapshow that was the removal of Teague and the intent to get Clarko/Lyon and then getting Voss.
A Win is a win is a win.
That is all.
Last week was a 4th quarter masterclass. This week was a 1st half masterclass. Both were against quality opposition proven to be well superior to us for many years.
We’re adjusting to an overhaul of every department from the clubhouse foundations to the senior coach. Evidently the team are aiming to master the fundamentals of a new game plan. Further layers of complexity will be added as the season goes on.
We are impacted by health protocol losing the senior coach and 2 from 22.
For the first time in decades the majority of commentary is positive. Seasoned commentators are discussing their Cripps man crushes on national tv🙄
We’re 2-0 for the first time in years. Regardless of any period of play or performance of any player, I’ll take that every day. It doesn’t mean we’re there yet but there’s something very promising unfolding on and off the field at Carlton.
Go Blues.
Well said, LN.
I've watched the game again before commenting and your 'holistic' observations are spot on, IMHO.
This all just didn't suddenly happen (assuming we continue to improve so strongly), but it did take an objective, even ruthless, appraisal of our on field direction and while some things put in place over the years were very good (off field), other glaring errors were continuing.
It's a cumulative thing. MLG deserves acknowledgment for restoring financial responsibility and eventual stability, even strength. BB deserves acknowledgment for holding the place together during a period of dramatic and thorough rebuild which saw SOS and a new team of list managers, mostly, get it right. And let's not forget the important recruiting of The Terrier and psychologist, Tarah Kavanagh (and the resignation of certain tired Board Members and appointment of smart, experienced and relevant 'new blood').
The final pieces of the puzzle to give effective and strong guidance and direction to this list came from Sayers... then Cook and Vossy, then experienced assistants around Vossy.
Early days, and there will be problems, but at least we can be confident (though cautious confidence with the wounds of 2 decades of sub standard on field performance... bar the glimmer from Ratts) that we have the people who have the experience and skills to manage those problems, and the successes - which can be just as (if not more) requiring of robust competency.
The Premiership quarter we used to play in the good ol days.
I heard one of the Blues from that era explaining how the "premiership quarter" originated. It was a radio interview and I can't even recall for sure who was being interviewed but I think it was Rhys-Jones. He was asked how it started and he said that the boys used to have a big night out on Friday night and were a bit dusty when they turned up for the game. That resulted in them being a bit lethargic in the 1st half. But after having a break at half-time, they were set to go in the 3rd quarter!
Another example of how legends develop from misunderstandings is Wayne Johnston's nickname "the Dominator". His career ended up making that nickname a true reflection of his performance in big games. But it didn't start out that way.
Apparently, he went with the boys to a disco and spent the night trying to chat up women but he crashed and burned badly. When he turned up for training, someone had given him the ironic nickname "the Dominator" as he hadn't dominated at all, much to the enjoyment of his teammates. Fair to say the Dominator ended up having the last laugh.
Winning must be making us all warm and fuzzy only 4 pages of comments!
If we lost there would be 14 on who’s fault it was and who to lynch 😉
Yes and some of those who have posted have found negatives ::)
A win over last year's runners up with the coach absent, assistants responsible for lines they've never coached, preparation disrupted by COVID protocols, the loss of two of the better players from the last game, losing a key defender, and coping with some mystifying umpiring decisions should be celebrated joyously - while still keeping a lid on it of course ;D
It's irrelevant that the Bulldogs came back at us; that was inevitable. The huge positive was that we kept our composure and still won comfortably.
How good was Sam Walsh after virtually no pre-season? It will be interesting to see how Vossy uses our 5 A-grade mids next week.
George Hewett did a number on the Bont and still racked up possessions; a great addition to the team.
The "how can I be a better teammate" mantra really seems to have changed the way we are going about our footy and there is so much to like about individual players and the way they are working together. My favourite moment was a fail; Lochy O'Brien went back with the flight and almost made a miraculous spoil on the goal line. The fact that it was a goal doesn't matter, his effort in getting to the goal line and attempting the spoil was "being a better teammate". It typified our efforts all over the ground for four quarters.
I got a message from one of my sisters after the game; "We're back!" I responded with "Where have you been?" Then I realised that she meant our beloved Navy Blues ... and I reckon she's right :)
Yes and some of those who have posted have found negatives ::)
- There is no problem discussing the imperfections, the opposition will look at them so no point ignoring them!
How good was Sam Walsh after virtually no pre-season? It will be interesting to see how Vossy uses our 5 A-grade mids next week.
- I can see Walsh spending more time forward than the others, given it is most likely one of Owies, Durdin or Fisher is an out. As much as some fans hate them I can't see Setterfield or LoB being omitted. Plowman probably stays given OMacs injury unless OMac gets up after the 10 day break. I presume Martin will be in and Fogarty out.
George Hewett did a number on the Bont and still racked up possessions; a great addition to the team.
The "how can I be a better teammate" mantra really seems to have changed the way we are going about our footy and there is so much to like about individual players and the way they are working together.
- Yes, there is a clear difference to previous years.
I got a message from one of my sisters after the game; "We're back!" I responded with "Where have you been?" Then I realised that she meant our beloved Navy Blues ... and I reckon she's right :)
- There have been signs, patience is a virtue!
I heard one of the Blues from that era explaining how the "premiership quarter" originated. It was a radio interview and I can't even recall for sure who was being interviewed but I think it was Rhys-Jones. He was asked how it started and he said that the boys used to have a big night out on Friday night and were a bit dusty when they turned up for the game. That resulted in them being a bit lethargic in the 1st half. But after having a break at half-time, they were set to go in the 3rd quarter!
I understood it came earlier than Rhys. During the dreamteam days 79-82.
Probably you're right about the night before, but how I thought it worked was just do enough for the first half to stay level pegging then let loose in the 3rd, get the lead and then cruise to the win in the 4th.
I seem to remember (probably with rose coloured glasses) but we would seem to go harder in the 3rd.
Indeed. I believe it came from the 1970 GF, when he came back from 44 points behind. The Channel 7 commentary team used it from that date.
How the players might have used the term ... well, that is probably Rhys's tale.
First half is possibly some of the best footy I've seen us play in 5 years or more....and against the team that played off in last year's GF and tipped by a few to go all the way this year. We absolutely took them to the cleaners and dominated in the middle and with contested possession. At times our ball movement looked as slick as what the Dogs have become famous for.
Yes, we tapered off a bit after half time but we got the points....that's what matters. In years gone by we probably would've just stopped completely.
So many contributors across the field. Cripps/Walsh/Kennedy/Hewett of course....Pittonet dominated the ruck and gave us first use out of the middle so many times. Weitering/McGovern combination down back looked better again....and the Harry/Charlie combo worked a treat. Add in the usual Silvagni 100% effort and the pressure stuff in the forward line from Owies/Durdin.
At times it was hard to believe it was basically the same 22 out there as last year....apart from Hewett. Apart from that last quarter, our skills looked completely different to what we've been used to.
Not sure what was happening with Newman though...usually very good with ball in hand but 3 horrendous blunders in the space of about 5 minutes in the last quarter nearly cost us the game.
First half is possibly some of the best footy I've seen us play in 5 years or more....and against the team that played off in last year's GF and tipped by a few to go all the way this year. We absolutely took them to the cleaners and dominated in the middle and with contested possession. At times our ball movement looked as slick as what the Dogs have become famous for.
Yes, we tapered off a bit after half time but we got the points....that's what matters. In years gone by we probably would've just stopped completely.
So many contributors across the field. Cripps/Walsh/Kennedy/Hewett of course....Pittonet dominated the ruck and gave us first use out of the middle so many times. Weitering/McGovern combination down back looked better again....and the Harry/Charlie combo worked a treat. Add in the usual Silvagni 100% effort and the pressure stuff in the forward line from Owies/Durdin.
At times it was hard to believe it was basically the same 22 out there as last year....apart from Hewett. Apart from that last quarter, our skills looked completely different to what we've been used to.
Not sure what was happening with Newman though...usually very good with ball in hand but 3 horrendous blunders in the space of about 5 minutes in the last quarter nearly cost us the game.
I was impressed by how we controlled the game. Almost old fashioned tempo footy where we dominated in phases and then alternated with periods of controlling and frustrating the opposition. A bit like the Hawks and Sydney of a few years ago.
Said the same thing to a mate during the game as we were texting while watching it. Showed a level of maturity I reckon that Voss has clearly stamped on the playing group already. Gone were the panic kicks or handballs to a stationery team mate just to get rid of the ball.
The Dogs play a fast brand of footy but we frustrated them at times by slowing the game right down and just winning possession back a bit.
Very early days indeed and injuries/COVID could derail things quickly but from the 2 practice games and the first 2 rounds, the difference between this year and last few years is chalk and cheese IMO.
And agree with another comment somewhere in one of these threads......listening to Ash Hansen speak after the game....very, very impressive and can see why the club went after him.
I understood it came earlier than Rhys. During the dreamteam days 79-82.
Probably you're right about the night before, but how I thought it worked was just do enough for the first half to stay level pegging then let loose in the 3rd, get the lead and then cruise to the win in the 4th.
I seem to remember (probably with rose coloured glasses) but we would seem to go harder in the 3rd.
I'm almost certain it was created in the David Parkin era of 81-82, I remember him referring to it in the aftermath of the 82 win against the Tigers (we kicked 5..4 to 0.6 in the 3rd that day, and it impressed one supporter so much she ran onto the ground naked!).
Back in those days there are many reasons why players seemed to go up a gear after 1/2-time! :o
These days they'd be banned for life!
I'm almost certain it was created in the David Parkin era of 81-82, I remember him referring to it in the aftermath of the 82 win against the Tigers (we kicked 5..4 to 0.6 in the 3rd that day, and it impressed one supporter so much she ran onto the ground naked!).
Definitely right ... but it was later in '81 I think. Saw us kick (IIRC) 10.2 to 1.1 in the 3rd at Princes Park in '82. The girl was Helen D'amico
It looks like one of the coaches gave George Hewett 4 votes for the job he did on the Bont. Fair enough in my opinion. I guess that George provides an upgrade on Ed in that he can curb his opponent's influence, rack up possessions and use the ball well.
It looks like one of the coaches gave George Hewett 4 votes for the job he did on the Bont. Fair enough in my opinion. I guess that George provides an upgrade on Ed in that he can curb his opponent's influence, rack up possessions and use the ball well.
Very good pick up by the club. I knew that he was an okay addition but his performances so far have been elite.
It looks like one of the coaches gave George Hewett 4 votes for the job he did on the Bont. Fair enough in my opinion. I guess that George provides an upgrade on Ed in that he can curb his opponent's influence, rack up possessions and use the ball well.
Can't believe how composed this guy is in heavy traffic. Might be something the Swans have perfected, which is probably why their midfield has been so good for so long.
Very glad he is now doing his stuff in Blue, and there might be a few on our list who could learn a lot from him about composure.
I'm almost certain it was created in the David Parkin era of 81-82, I remember him referring to it in the aftermath of the 82 win against the Tigers (we kicked 5..4 to 0.6 in the 3rd that day, and it impressed one supporter so much she ran onto the ground naked!).
I seem to recall it was a 'thing' when John Nicholls was the coach in the early 70's.