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Re: Pre-Game 2021 AFL Rnd 1: Richmond vs Carlton.

Reply #75 –
Nobody does the big moments like Dusty, kicks the big goals, breaks from the packs with the big fend off,
What is a miracle play for most is stock standard for Dusty and what makes it worse you can see it coming. The lone defender stranded and out of position or the hesitant opposition in the stoppage hoping they don't have to tackle Dusty and look like they squibbed it..
Been the same for the past 5 years..

Re: Pre-Game 2021 AFL Rnd 1: Richmond vs Carlton.

Reply #76 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Nobody does the big moments like Dusty, kicks the big goals, breaks from the packs with the big fend off,
What is a miracle play for most is stock standard for Dusty and what makes it worse you can see it coming. The lone defender stranded and out of position or the hesitant opposition in the stoppage hoping they don't have to tackle Dusty and look like they squibbed it..
Been the same for the past 5 years..
Yes, ..................... but no doubt he is also enabled by the umpires.

If any other AFL player sticks their hand in an opponents throat they get penalised, I wonder if you tried to combat Dusty by grabbing his arm and dragging him to the ground I bet he'll frequently be awarded a free kick for being slung!

I've had to wonder in the past if umpires were afraid of the perceived threat from his unusual associates.
The Force Awakens!

Re: Pre-Game 2021 AFL Rnd 1: Richmond vs Carlton.

Reply #77 –
Quote from: ElwoodBlues1 on
Nobody does the big moments like Dusty, kicks the big goals, breaks from the packs with the big fend off,
What is a miracle play for most is stock standard for Dusty and what makes it worse you can see it coming. The lone defender stranded and out of position or the hesitant opposition in the stoppage hoping they don't have to tackle Dusty and look like they squibbed it..
Been the same for the past 5 years..

He is the best player I have ever seen, the Michael Jordan of the AFL.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Pre-Game 2021 AFL Rnd 1: Richmond vs Carlton.

Reply #78 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
He is the best player I have ever seen, the Michael Jordan of the AFL.
You're young, .................. but he's probably the best of the recent bunch of mid/forwards.

Overall I can't say Dusty's best is better than Franklin's best, or the best of Ablett Jnr, Voss, Dean Cox, Dangerflog, Roughead, McLeod, Hodge, Burgoyne, RooShooter, but he's up there with them in that class of player.

I've not seen Dusty ever solo drag his team across the line like Cripps has done for us more than once.

I'm not going to claim Dusty is better than Lethal, Duck, GOD, Jezza, Doormat, Cable, Harvey or Flower, but he's up there in that echelon, it's not like for like.
The Force Awakens!

Re: Pre-Game 2021 AFL Rnd 1: Richmond vs Carlton.

Reply #79 –
Melbourne had picks 1 and 2 in the '09 Draft and still managed to suff it up. This is part of the reason why Richmond has 3 of the last 4 and Melbourne are still scratching their ar$es trying to understand where it all went wrong.

Re: Pre-Game 2021 AFL Rnd 1: Richmond vs Carlton.

Reply #80 –
Quote from: PaulP on
Melbourne had picks 1 and 2 in the '09 Draft and still managed to suff it up. This is part of the reason why Richmond has 3 of the last 4 and Melbourne are still scratching their ar$es trying to understand where it all went wrong.

Fyfe went at pick 20 in the same draft.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

Re: Pre-Game 2021 AFL Rnd 1: Richmond vs Carlton.

Reply #81 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
Fyfe went at pick 20 in the same draft.

I'm not sure if it's the tyranny of distance, or maybe my powers of observation are not as acute as I'd like to think, but I just don't feel that Fyfe is quite at the same level as Martin or Dangerfield. Playing in teams that have struggled since 2016 doesn't help. I suppose. 

Re: Pre-Game 2021 AFL Rnd 1: Richmond vs Carlton.

Reply #82 –
Quote from: PaulP on
I'm not sure if it's the tyranny of distance, or maybe my powers of observation are not as acute as I'd like to think, but I just don't feel that Fyfe is quite at the same level as Martin or Dangerfield. Playing in teams that have struggled since 2016 doesn't help. I suppose.
I think players in struggling club's often fail to win fan respect, I think fans tend to weight the winning aspect of a players history.

The two Roberts, Harvey and Flower, are nice examples. Rarely mentioned in the same breath as fan favourite greats but clearly as good as if not even better than most!

Maybe our own Ken Hunter falls in that category, but once prompted you won't get many fans from any team who actually observed his career question his place amongst the very very best!

PS; I forgot Diesel, better mentally append him to those lists, ................. not better than Dusty! :o
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Re: Pre-Game 2021 AFL Rnd 1: Richmond vs Carlton.

Reply #83 –
Quote from: LP on
I think players in struggling club's often fail to win fan respect, I think fans tend to weight the winning aspect of a players history.

The two Roberts, Harvey and Flower, are nice examples. Rarely mentioned in the same breath as fan favourite greats but clearly as good as if not even better than most!

Maybe our own Ken Hunter falls in that category, but once prompted you won't get many fans from any team who actually observed his career question his place amongst the very very best!

Yes, all fair points IMO.
 

Re: Pre-Game 2021 AFL Rnd 1: Richmond vs Carlton.

Reply #85 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
He is the best player I have ever seen, the Michael Jordan of the AFL.
Agree, His goals in the GF got better and freakier. I think the thing with Dusty is that he just loves playing footy and doesnt take it or himself too seriously. He has matured for sure but he doesnt seem to have a care in the world when you watch him on the field. He has also had a dream run injury wise, like Kouta from 1994 to 1999.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

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Reply #86 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Kouta from 1994 to 1999.
Kouta, a long forgotten name, is his best better than Dusty?

If only MBB had seen Kouta in full flight!
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Re: Pre-Game 2021 AFL Rnd 1: Richmond vs Carlton.

Reply #87 –
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
Agree, His goals in the GF got better and freakier. I think the thing with Dusty is that he just loves playing footy and doesnt take it or himself too seriously. He has matured for sure but he doesnt seem to have a care in the world when you watch him on the field. He has also had a dream run injury wise, like Kouta from 1994 to 1999.
Its the maturity after being a nuffy headed for who knows where off the field that has shocked me, seems happy, content and
laid back not unlike a new mate of his named Dane Swan.

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Reply #88 –
Quote from: LP on
Kouta, a long forgotten name, is his best better than Dusty?

If only MBB had seen Kouta in full flight!

I'm 42 years old and have been a member since 1993.
2012 HAPPENED!!!!!!!

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Reply #89 –
Quote from: madbluboy on
I'm 42 years old and have been a member since 1993.
Well, I think Kouta in full flight was more Michael Jordan than Dusty.
The Force Awakens!