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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by rocky -
Quote from: Gointocarlton on
@rocky Agreed, that was however our worst performance by far. Like you I didn't expect to beat them given how good they are travelling and how many injuries we have. I did think we had a reasonable side on paper and in the first qtr we looked every bit a good side. Once they turned the pressure up we went to water. I expected a better effort than that. On face value, the only one who tried for 4 qtrs was Pitto. I felt the rest were atrocious for 3.5 qtrs. Once again too many (1/2 dozen) out there provided the same effort and contribution as a witch's hat wearing a CFC jumper. Oh and those calling for Pitto to be dropped, he showed why TDK still has L Plates on and needs a licenced driver sitting next to him.
G2C, thought our worst was losing to the crows. We lost Saad that day, but pretty much agree it was very average today. They just looked SO tired. Not sure what's going on. There may be more to the story than we know about?
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Gointocarlton -
@rocky Agreed, that was however our worst performance by far. Like you I didn't expect to beat them given how good they are travelling and how many injuries we have. I did think we had a reasonable side on paper and in the first qtr we looked every bit a good side. Once they turned the pressure up we went to water. I expected a better effort than that. On face value, the only one who tried for 4 qtrs was Pitto. I felt the rest were atrocious for 3.5 qtrs. Once again too many (1/2 dozen) out there provided the same effort and contribution as a witch's hat wearing a CFC jumper. Oh and those calling for Pitto to be dropped, he showed why TDK still has L Plates on and needs a licenced driver sitting next to him.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Carlton vs Williamstown at Willi
Last post by crashlander -
B: Cowan , Lewis, Le. Young
HB: Wilson, Akuei, La. Young
C: Phillips, Binns, Maher
HF: Cahill, Monahan, Moir
F: McMahon, Lemmey, Nelson
R: Mirkov, Goonan, Ramshaw
INT: Prout, White, Poole*, Lefroy, Harvey
EMG: Ferronato, Lambert, Stevens, Gill, Verrell, Gedi, Riley
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by rocky -
Have to say I'm a bit surprised at the excessive vitriol over todays effort. Sort of stunned really. Did anyone seriously think we would be anywhere near this mob with what we had at our disposal? Hand on your heart, really?
Even when we started so well I was just waiting for the tide to turn. I've said it before and I'll say it again WE HAVE NO DEPTH. we need our best 22 (and I'd suggest we only have 22) on the park at the one time for any chance of victory. Sydney have blokes like Luke Parker waiting in the wings
Now if we had Silvagni, Motlop, Cerra, Fogarty, Docherty, Martin, Saad, Cottrell, and as of today, Weitering available, well, you know what, we do better. We don't have to play the likes of Fantasia, Carroll, Durdin, Owies etc. etc. But the truth of the matter is we HAVE to.
Make no mistake, barring injuries, Swans will win the big one this year by a country mile.
We will be lucky to make the 8 if things don't turn around on the injury front.
I'd say we did well this game because we only lost one soldier. Mind you, training this coming  week could tip a few more in as has been the case.
Oh and anothing thing, we looked well and truly gassed long before the game was over. What's that all about?
My only gripe is blokes like Fantasia get chance after chance only to predictably fall over and guys like Binns keep getting overlooked. Who here thought that Fantasia's one shot on goal, 40m out mind you, was going to go through? He didn't even make the distance FFS. AFL standard, I don't think so.
But there are plenty more and that's the cold hard fact. It will be like this for a while yet until we get our BEST 22 on the park.
God help us next week against the rampaging Suns
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by pinot -
Quote from: laj on
We lost them all in the same stretch last year, many in embarrassing fashion. after round 13 we beat who we lost too.

Wasn't expecting miracles with what was 5 consecutive blockbusters but of the first 4 we won two and pissed 2 others down the drain narrowly with half a side out. Highly competitive against contenders even with the injuries. Tonight, we mentally fell apart and gave up. Tonight was terrible in effort. Injuries are no excuse for a lack of effort.

It has been a tough run for sure but two rucks and three small forwards taking run run away from the middle has been a miserable failure and needs to take ownership. I wont trust the guy with this list if he doesn't.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by Macca37 -
That was a reality check. Anyone who thinks we can make a serious tilt for the flag with this list is living in Fantasyland.

We have the belief that one magical day we will be able to field a side picked from our top 22 players.  It's not going to happen.  We are paying for dreadful recruiting decisions made some years ago which has left us with too many injury prone players.

Currently we have a midfield that goes well for a quarter, runs out of puff and the tackle count goes down because the players can't catch the opposition midfielders.

We have too many lightweight players who are unable to make a meaningful tackle and just get brushed aside. 

Until we can follow the example of Geelong and Swans and have a list that does not have more than the average number of injuries during a season, we will just be pretenders.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Last post by laj -
Quote from: pinot on
Patiently awaiting for the Voss presser I know he is not going to make excuses but if he props up this game plan then I am going to be concerned that he doesnt know what he is doing - losing 4 of 6 against contenders justifies it.
We lost them all in the same stretch last year, many in embarrassing fashion. after round 13 we beat who we lost too.

Wasn't expecting miracles with what was 5 consecutive blockbusters but of the first 4 we won two and pissed 2 others down the drain narrowly with half a side out. Highly competitive against contenders even with the injuries. Tonight, we mentally fell apart and gave up. Tonight was terrible in effort. Injuries are no excuse for a lack of effort.