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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
If only the disappointment was just this one game, but Fantasia is properly cooked, I can't understand why he is being defended.

Talking about the others is just deflection, this bloke Fantasia has underperformed to the point of having zero impact in every game he has played in 2024. So the point of developing someone is quite valid, they won't be worse.
we are trying to get blokes fit.  Forget about the names.  We can't run out games
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
Fantasia been in the AFL system at 3 clubs for 10 years, Binns has 1 game 1 year under his belt!

Fantasia is embarrassing himself.

Cognitive ability is escaping you slightly.  We've had about 10 passengers tonight, two of our best McKay and walsh have cost us dearly, TDK's not getting near the footy, our defense is under siege, our key forwards aren't kicking goals and binns for fantasia is what you're focussing on?

Did you see his one effort at afl level?  He's not ready yet.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
I love your enthusiasm, but if Fantasia comes in and has another 25pt rating game it's over for him the moment other players get fit.

If we are going to carry a player getting single digit disposals and having little game influence, it may as well be a longer term project. That's just how I see it.

Generally, you have some senior types around the club on the fringes, it is so they can come in and do a job having an immediate impact without the need to learn the ropes. As horrible as this sounds, we got more out of Tutt, Lang, Smedts maybe even Clem Smith than we have out of Fantasia for a similar number of games.

It's a marathon not a sprint.  Binns ain't the second coming of Eddie betts.  Come finals time if orazio gets up and running he'll be a difference maker.  Binns is on L plates.  He isn't Sam Walsh, he's in his second year and I'd rather we get orazio up to pace and see if it works.  We aren't flushed for outside run either way so they should both be in the mix.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
All of our defenders and our defensive structures stood up very well to intense pressure last week.  Apart from Petracca, all of the Melbourne forwards were well beaten.

I would be inclined to go with the same seven this week unless there’s a compelling match up for Williams AND he’s completely fit.

I reckon he is straight back in for indigenous round.

Its happened before. 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Sydney
We probably need to consider the quality of opposition when comparing combinations.

Which block is the better, given who we beat, and where we currently sit?

Team-margin -current ladder position

Tom DeKoning rucking

Brisbane  +1 (currently 13th)
Richmond +5 (currently 17th)
North Melbourne +56 (currently 18th)
Fremantle +10 (currently 9th)

Pittonet /DeKoning sharing the load

Adelaide -2 (currently 12th)
GWS +19 ( currently 5th)
Geelong -13 (currently 2nd)
Collingwood -6 (currently 8th)
Melbourne +1 (currently 4th)


Probably most important to consider.

Whom it was against.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Until the 'heat' arrived in the 2nd half. Those of us who are critical of Ollie are not critical of his endeavour and effort. And we're not saying he's no good, or should not be out there. Simply observations of his inexperience in tight and physical situations. He's a ripper... with things to clean up on, especially hurting the opposition with his disposal, strengthening his body to stick tackles, surety by hand and foot in pressure situations... they'll come in time. But they're real shortcomings at present.

And everyone looked amazing in our first half, until the Go Dees brought the heat, then the wheat was sorted from the chaff.

He wasn't the lone ranger and a couple of errors shouldn't eclipse a rather important role he played in us having a 5 to 0 headstart at quarter time.  Even his caught in possession moments it was facing his opposition and getting caught by third man in from behind.  That's on his teamates not letting him know he's hot IMHO.