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THis is the thing that people don't get.....not all conspiracies are equal. I said it from the beginning, physics calls BS on this one.

Annabelle Tuckfield, a clot doctor, was on the wireless this morning and it was interesting to hear her analysis of the AstraZeneca vaccine situation.

She pointed out that 20M AZ vaccines have now been administered and there have been 18 cases of blood clots (that’s 0.00009%).  She also pointed out that blood clots are one of the more common consequences of COVID-19 infections. In fact, data from France and the Netherlands indicates that 30-70% of patients with coronavirus who are admitted to intensive care units develop blood clots in the deep veins of the legs, or in the lungs.  One in four COVID patients in ICU will develop pulmonary embolisms.  Dr Tuckfield made it very clear that the AstraZeneca vaccine significantly reduces one’s chances of developing blood clots.

Dr Tuckfield also pointed out the contraceptive pill significantly increases the probability of blood clots - but most of us don’t have to worry about that.

Have you checked that?

I'm not being facetious, but if you search all you'll get is the conspiracies at the top of the results if you spent the last few hours reading about that stuff from earlier searches. The search engines preferentially give you what they think you'll read and click through.

You can try searching while the browser is in private mode, that can often that will give you very different search results.

My daughter read somewhere that more people developed clots in placebo trials than the vaccine trials, has anyone else read this?

How many individual buildings have had 767’s deliberately crashed into them ?

I'm not sure of the answer, but i know there are at least 3 other buildings that have been crashed into by planes and survived....easily.

Technically, you could add the 2 WTC's into that too, because planes didn't bring them down either.

I wonder whether there were conspiracy theories floating around after the Challenger Space Shuttle blew up. The Russians had a motive to cripple the US Space program as did the Europeans as they were involved in launching satellites via their Ariadne rockets. Could the official explanation of degraded O-rings really explain the explosion when there had been numerous successful launches without any problem in that regard?

I didn't rely on any other footage that what I saw live! Yep, sat up most of the night watching the reports and live coverage... saw the 2nd plane hit the other tower live as well. Building 7 had a small fire burning, relative to the size of the building, to one side of it... then it surprised the bejesus out of the live reporters when it collapsed. I haven't with conspiracy footage... too easy to skew.

However, 9/11 does fascinate me... and I can assure you Wing Man Mav, that it hasn't seduced me into other conspiracy theories! I've read some bizarre interpretations of 9/11, which were comical and I won't give them any energy here.

To me, we have not been given the truth as to how these buildings pancaked so perfectly into their own footprints and the 'real' explanation is probably a political bombshell best kept concealed for another few decades. And I am content to leave it at that, just not knowing what really happened but somewhat curious. I am sure there is bullshizen in the explanation somewhere and to some degree, but, equally there is likely much that has been reported that is true.

If I was an architect, or family member of one of the deceased from 9/11, then I am sure I would be, still, to this very day, wanting and pursuing the truth/more information.

The question from @northernblue was confined to fuel loaded jets ... the answer is still zero.

I just said something similar.

This cannot be lumped into the rest of it.

It doesn't add up.

If the government came out and said, we had evidence that the towers were going to fall down, so we used an inbuilt 'auto-desctruct' system to ensure it came down correctly, without destroying the rest of new york in the process. I could accept that. It makes sense.

But no, shear 'dumb luck' for 3 buildings to fall into perfect little piles......and at the same time exhibiting ALL the trademarks of a controlled demolition...as said by experts in that field, eye witness reports from fire fighters and public....but still managed to find the passports of all the people involved, barely singed, among the rubble......Is it really believable? Really?

BTW, Mav said something about flying is easy.....its true. Landing is hard....its true.
So the 'plane' that crashed into pentagon.....that left basically no debris....and disappeared into a tiny hole you could barely get a car in....and left no damage on the grass leading up to it......that 'landing' is supposedly something you cannot do in a similator because the plane have to do the 360 degree dive perfectly would stall. One of my best mates has an uncle who is high up in the aviation area, so much so he one of the blokes they come to when they are trying to work out what happened to those malaysian airlines. He said there is only a handful of people in the world capable of pulling off the manouvre that went into the pentagon. So some random playing a game at home as zero chance. Together with the lack of evidence of a plane at the crash....and the lack of footage of any plane even being there......yeah.....not dodgy at all.

Occams razor....

Perhaps, but maybe real physics has called bullsh1t on the faked physics.

Oddly enough, it's the rules published by the patent clerk that proved Newton wasn't quite right! Yet even Newton given access to the video and some background on the rules of encoding would be able to prove the base claim in the WTC7 Conspiracy isn't true!

In the world, 1 solitary second makes a difference!

Not really about the aeroplane but more about aviation fuel/heat. And no steel framed building (plus all steel is treated with heat resistant coverings), has ever collapsed due to fire. In fact the only way to bring down a steel framed building is through professional demolition... and they use a variety of products and methods to collapse a steel framed building onto its own footprint.

That bit in bold is dead set rubbish!