Our last game for the year against the Drug Cheats early on Sunday. Interesting to see if we can repeat the effort we put in today. I didn't think we could pull today off, as we are terrible at milestone games now. However, I hope we can give the Drug Cheats exactly what they deserve.
I expect to be there for a change. :) That will probably hurt us more than help us, but I'm not going to miss this one!
Hopefully we get a glimpse of McKay next week at senior level.
SOS for Everitt next week (there was a stage in the game where we saw the timidness of Everitt on show when he was making a feeble attempt to tackle and Tuohy arrived to show him how it was done...)
But if McKay did make an appearance next week who would you drop? Can't drop Jones on today's form. Likewise Kerridge, who goes out for Kerridge if he's over his illness and ready to return (Graham earned a game next week)?
Maybe the best thing is just the one change (SOS for Everitt) and get another game into McKay in the magoos?
For mine, Daisy should be dropped based on form but I doubt they will as its his 200th next week. Did he have a specific role today? Watching on TV, he was largely unsighted and appeared to struggle when he was in picture.
Hopefully we get a glimpse of McKay next week at senior level.
SOS for Everitt next week (there was a stage in the game where we saw the timidness of Everitt on show when he was making a feeble attempt to tackle and Tuohy arrived to show him how it was done...)
But if McKay did make an appearance next week who would you drop? Can't drop Jones on today's form. Likewise Kerridge, who goes out for Kerridge if he's over his illness and ready to return (Graham earned a game next week)?
Maybe the best thing is just the one change (SOS for Everitt) and get another game into McKay in the magoos?
SOS will come in for someone. Like to see McKay in but there's no-where to put him. Levi was great last week and Jones has had two good weeks. Seem to go well together.
When Daisy runs at full pace he resembles a man running in wet cement.
Tries his guts out but his body has given out on him, we can't carry a running player who can't cover ground and he is an average kick at best these days.
Agree, professor. I have wanted Daisy to work out, but it seems to be his mind is willing only. Doesn't seem to have any impact at all.
Does he still have 2 yrs left with trigger for 3?
Gee if his form this year is anything to go on, surely he'll struggle.
I hear he's a great mentor and off-field contributor, but is he up to the rigors of the game for that period?
I hope he shows us he is, but it does look like his body's failing him sadly.
I understand that there is a clause in his contact that says that he has to play a minimum number of games in his 4th year to guarantee a 5th year. That could be his problem.
I thought Daisy was OK yesterday. He linked up well and provided a cool head when required.
His body isn't capable of the gut running and explosive speed that marked his best years and I suspect that he is learning to play within his limitations.
Daisy is still in our best 22 but I suspect that will change next season.
Our last game for the year against the Drug Cheats early on Sunday. Interesting to see if we can repeat the effort we put in today. I didn't think we could pull today off, as we are terrible at milestone games now. However, I hope we can give the Drug Cheats exactly what they deserve.
I expect to be there for a change. :) That will probably hurt us more than help us, but I'm not going to miss this one!
Saturday @ 2:10 pm Crash.
I have never looked at the final match of a season with less interest than this one.
I'm totally focussed on what happens the week after.
Yep, byes are very interesting! :D
Yep, byes are very interesting! :D
I have never looked at the final match of a season with less interest than this one.
I'm totally focussed on what happens the week after.
I was about to say - nothing on field, nothing off field. Maybe Sheik's going on holiday.
I'd say unfortunately we may not get a chance to play McKay uness they decide to give Jones or Casboult a rest, most likely to be Jones...Or bring in McKay for Everitt and decide to let Silvagni have another week out. He's got the whole summer to rest though! ;)
Though, if young Silvagni is ok to play he'd be a definite to bring in for mine, for Everitt.
Or, maybe go with one genuine ruck this week (though both did well against Gawn).
Keep Graham in. Kerridge has been so-so anyway.
Thomas will get a gig for his 200th.
YAY for being the last game of the season.
What season? This is just another preseason game before we play the Tigers in Rd 1. That's been the case for a while. And from that perspective, things are rosy. We're batting 4/4 with the new boys and perhaps Mackay might play this week and show all 5 picks were worthy.
Nice way to look at it Mav summer is just an extended bye, does feel like it has been a "lets check out various structures" type of year. The culling in a few weeks will be the summation of the season . Lets hope we have learnt a few things which will lead us to the promised land
Nice way to look at it Mav summer is just an extended bye, does feel like it has been a "lets check out various structures" type of year. The culling in a few weeks will be the summation of the season . Lets hope we have learnt a few things which will lead us to the promised land
Yep, I'm really looking forward to the trade/drafts. Let's hope that this optimism is eventually justified.
Me too Cookie , getting used to the turn over days, but last year we did manage to unearth a few nuggets.
Expecting 9-11 to go I think, might be a few surprises , would also depend on who we have lined up. Let the Navy Andrew Thread be full of good old fashion rumors again
I'd say unfortunately we may not get a chance to play McKay uness they decide to give Jones or Casboult a rest, most likely to be Jones...Or bring in McKay for Everitt and decide to let Silvagni have another week out. He's got the whole summer to rest though! ;)
Though, if young Silvagni is ok to play he'd be a definite to bring in for mine, for Everitt.
Or, maybe go with one genuine ruck this week (though both did well against Gawn).
Keep Graham in. Kerridge has been so-so anyway.
Thomas will get a gig for his 200th.
Silvagni in for Everitt (a given)
Mckay in for Wright (seems tired and deserves a break now)
Like to see Rainbow come in (unless he has been stamped) could come in for Army
Silvagni in for Everitt (a given)
Mckay in for Wright (seems tired and deserves a break now)
Like to see Rainbow come in (unless he has been stamped) could come in for Army
Maybe Everitt did enough to be retained, so did Wright. But I agree about Wright so perhaps SOJ in for Wright and we get to see what SOJ can do without having a KPD to deal with?
In any case, there is nothing for a player of Wright's vintage to gain from playing in dead rubbers, but Everitt might be playing for his career!
Cannot see DVR or McKay getting a run in the last game of the year, but you never know!
Silvagni in for Everitt (a given)
Mckay in for Wright (seems tired and deserves a break now)
Like to see Rainbow come in (unless he has been stamped) could come in for Army
Jack will be in for Everett I reckon, But neither Wright or Armfield will be dropped.
As for Wright needing break. . . . He will get a few weeks off after the final siren.
Jack will be in for Everett I reckon, But neither Wright or Armfield will be dropped.
As for Wright needing break. . . . He will get a few weeks off after the final siren.
I think when we strung those wins together, Wright was proving to be a real goal sneak when playing close to home. Since Murph has gone out, Wright has been forced further up the ground and into the midfield at times and we have lost that goal sneak element. next year, I want to see him and Sumner (assuming he gets fit from a solid PS) as our front and centre little fellas in the fwd line. Wright in particular is a terrific kick for goal so he should be used in that capacity in my opinion.
I think when we strung those wins together, Wright was proving to be a real goal sneak when playing close to home. Since Murph has gone out, Wright has been forced further up the ground and into the midfield at times and we have lost that goal sneak element. next year, I want to see him and Sumner (assuming he gets fit from a solid PS) as our front and centre little fellas in the fwd line. Wright in particular is a terrific kick for goal so he should be used in that capacity in my opinion.
Great points and agree Wright and Sumner could be great goal sneaks. What to do with Army then? And what is Dylan's best position. I say wing as he can use his pace and goal sense.
Still think we need another big body fwd. Can't pile too much expectation on the 3 young ones we have (SoS, CC & Harry). If they keep Levi and Jones they have proven to be unreliable so we def need another certain starter who can have influence. I notice my man James Stewart took 14 marks and booted 8.3 from 23 touches in the GWS reserves' 139-point win over the Brisbane Lions...
Great points and agree Wright and Sumner could be great goal sneaks. What to do with Army then? And what is Dylan's best position. I say wing as he can use his pace and goal sense.
Still think we need another big body fwd. Can't pile too much expectation on the 3 young ones we have (SoS, CC & Harry). If they keep Levi and Jones they have proven to be unreliable so we def need another certain starter who can have influence. I notice my man James Stewart took 14 marks and booted 8.3 from 23 touches in the GWS reserves' 139-point win over the Brisbane Lions...
Pratty and I both support the James Stewart recruiting theme, be a very good get but there are other clubs interested ......Wright wont be rested and as suggested is a terrific kick for goal and a very reliable player allround...not many players can play decent footy forward and also take their place in the midfield rotations and give you some value.
I can't really see McKay getting a run this week; I don't think he's ready and both Jones and Casboult did more than enough to keep their places.
Curnow is out with a crook knee and I suspect that Kerridge will come back in to the midfield. SOJ will only play if he is over his fatigue/general soreness. If he is OK, I suspect that it will be at Sumner's expense. Graham did OK and we need him in the midfield rotations. Everitt played on the wing and I thought he was OK for the first three quarters.
I can't really see McKay getting a run this week; I don't think he's ready and both Jones and Casboult did more than enough to keep their places.
Curnow is out with a crook knee and I suspect that Kerridge will come back in to the midfield. SOJ will only play if he is over his fatigue/general soreness. If he is OK, I suspect that it will be at Sumner's expense. Graham did OK and we need him in the midfield rotations. Everitt played on the wing and I thought he was OK for the first three quarters.
Like to see McKay get a run as the experience would be invaluable but, yes, you'd literally have to squash him in. The only way would be to drop a ruckman and play Casboult as a genuine 2nd ruck. As much as i'd like to drop a ruckman, as we usually struggle playing two, which has been a failure most of the year, they did play well last week and deserves another run. So doubt McKay will get a look in.
Don't have a link but got this quote from a Carlton Facebook supporters page.....
"Teenage key forward Harry McKay is likely to make his AFL debut against Essendon on Saturday after an impressive display for the Northern Blues at Ikon Park last Saturday. If McKay, the No. 10 pick in last year's NAB AFL Draft, plays it will mean all of the Blues' 2015 draftees have been given a chance at the elite level this season. McKay, who was sidelined for the first half of the season with a stress fracture in his back, moved well despite having limited opportunities against Williamstown and kicked a goal. Jason Tutt was outstanding, gathering a team-high 32 touches. - Howard Kotton"
Don't have a link but got this quote from a Carlton Facebook supporters page.....
"Teenage key forward Harry McKay is likely to make his AFL debut against Essendon on Saturday after an impressive display for the Northern Blues at Ikon Park last Saturday. If McKay, the No. 10 pick in last year's NAB AFL Draft, plays it will mean all of the Blues' 2015 draftees have been given a chance at the elite level this season. McKay, who was sidelined for the first half of the season with a stress fracture in his back, moved well despite having limited opportunities against Williamstown and kicked a goal. Jason Tutt was outstanding, gathering a team-high 32 touches. - Howard Kotton"
That would be really good for the kid.
C'mon, Match Committee, you know it makes sense! Just do it!
Been calling for McKay to get a senior game for a few weeks, be great if he does debut this week.
Best of all, it will mean that all five draftees from last year will have played a senior game in their first year at the club which has to be a major positive to any other potential draftees or trades.
This week, let's smash them into oblivion, finish the season on a high and then get the player delistings started next week.
Hoping Whiley gets a gig to replace Ed.
Had (have?) high hopes for this lad. Can win the pill, even at senior level, it's what happens after that that is presently the stumbling block.....
Hoping Whiley gets a gig to replace Ed.
Had (have?) high hopes for this lad. Can win the pill, even at senior level, it's what happens after that that is presently the stumbling block.....
Dillon Vo Jo Rainbow should be playing for sure. Not sure why they have developed a set on him
Hoping Whiley gets a gig to replace Ed.
Had (have?) high hopes for this lad. Can win the pill, even at senior level, it's what happens after that that is presently the stumbling block.....
Rumour floating he hurt his shoulder and it doesn't look good.... like really bad and may not see him again.
Hoping it's a rumour, but good source, but yet to see anything.
Been calling for McKay to get a senior game for a few weeks, be great if he does debut this week.
Best of all, it will mean that all five draftees from last year will have played a senior game in their first year at the club which has to be a major positive to any other potential draftees or trades.
This week, let's smash them into oblivion, finish the season on a high and then get the player delistings started next week.
There is nothing in the coaches report on Big H to suggest he deserves a gig in the 1s, perhaps its a case of giving him a taste of the big time.
Whiley ... too slow, doesn't impact enough and ordinary disposal. Had enough chances at two clubs.
Whiley ... too slow, doesn't impact enough and ordinary disposal. Had enough chances at two clubs.
They once said the same of Sam Mitchell.
There is nothing in the coaches report on Big H to suggest he deserves a gig in the 1s, perhaps its a case of giving him a taste of the big time.
I'm not sure we want to gift anybody a game this week GTC - I really want to WIN this one so we should go in with our strongest possible line-up. I doubt whether young Harry qualifies atm?
There was never anything wring with Mitchells disposal, at his first training session he was asked if he was left or right footed.
A must win game this week, I HATE losing to the Bumbers.
I was going to go to this game, but it's an EFC home game and I refuse to financially support those drug cheats.
I don't know if Harry Mackay has earned a senior spot yet, it wouldn't bother me for him to wait til next year to debut in the seniors.
Another game into SOJ and Cuningham will be extra experience and good for them leading into next year.
A must win game this week, I HATE losing to the Bumbers.
I was going to go to this game, but it's an EFC home game and I refuse to financially support those drug cheats.
I don't know if Harry Mackay has earned a senior spot yet, it wouldn't bother me for him to wait til next year to debut in the seniors.
Another game into SOJ and Cuningham will be extra experience and good for them leading into next year.
Agree..one highlight every season even poor ones like we have been having for years is beating the bombers or putting them out of contention.... plus its going to be way tougher next year when they get their dirty dozen -1(Hibberd) back....
No Harry
In Jack and Kerridge
Bye bye Everitt.
Don't have a link but got this quote from a Carlton Facebook supporters page.....
"Teenage key forward Harry McKay is likely to make his AFL debut against Essendon on Saturday after an impressive display for the Northern Blues at Ikon Park last Saturday. If McKay, the No. 10 pick in last year's NAB AFL Draft, plays it will mean all of the Blues' 2015 draftees have been given a chance at the elite level this season. McKay, who was sidelined for the first half of the season with a stress fracture in his back, moved well despite having limited opportunities against Williamstown and kicked a goal. Jason Tutt was outstanding, gathering a team-high 32 touches. - Howard Kotton" Outstanding? Really? Howard must have just looked at the stat sheet rather than the productivity.
McKay is not ready or fit enough yet but I not would be strongly opposed to giving the kid a game in a dead-rubber final round.
Essendon* v Carlton at the MCG, 2.10pm AEST
Essendon*
In: B.Goddard, C.Dempsey, S.McKernan, N.Kommer
Out: M.Jamar, A.Cooney (retired), M.Stokes (retired), O.Fantasia (groin)
CARLTON
In: S.Kerridge, J.Silvagni
Out: A.Everitt , E.Curnow (knee)
No Harry
In Jack and Kerridge
Bye bye Everitt.
Selections as expected.
In SOS, Kero Out Ed, Everitt
CARLTON
FOLLOWERS
8 Matthew Kreuzer
4 Bryce Gibbs
46 Matthew Wright
FF 7 Dylan Buckley 41 Levi Casboult 34 Andrew Phillips
HF 19 Liam Sumner 14 Liam Jones 32 Nick Graham
C 6 Kade Simpson 9 Patrick Cripps 39 Dale Thomas
HB 42 Zach Tuohy 43 Simon White 15 Sam Docherty
FB 20 Lachie Plowman 17 Sam Rowe 23 Jacob Weitering
INTERCHANGE
11 Sam Kerridge
27 Dennis Armfield
28 David Cuningham
2 Jack Silvagni
EMERGENCIES
33 Andrejs Everitt
22 Jason Tutt
12 Blaine Boekhorst
Selection pretty much predictable, Everitt looks gorn!
Yeah Cookie first thing I thought too
Pretty obvious ins and outs I reckon.
Just have to smash these drug ridden, cheatin'' scum bags.
Carlton
B: Lachie Plowman, Sam Rowe, Jacob Weitering.
HB: Zach Tuohy, Simon White, Sam Docherty.
C: Kade Simpson, Patrick Cripps, Dale Thomas.
HF: Liam Sumner, Liam Jones, Nick Graham.
F: Dylan Buckley, Levi Casboult, Andrew Phillips.
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Bryce Gibbs, Matthew Wright.
Int: Sam Kerridge, Dennis Armfield, David Cuningham, Jack Silvagni.
Emg: Andrejs Everitt, Jason Tutt, Blaine Boekhorst.
InL Sam Kerridge, Jack Silvagni.
Out: Andrejs Everitt (Omitted), Ed Curnow (Knee)
This could be he end for all 3 of the Emergencies, depending on how the next month or so goes. Not sure I really like that, but it does say something about where we are headed.
Not sure this is our best 22 at the moment, but it is the 22 we have, so I hope it is the best performed 22 this weekend. :))
Essendon
B: Matt Dea, Michael Hartley, Martin Gleeson.
HB: Brendon Goddard, Mitch Brown, Patrick Ambrose.
C: David Zaharakis, Zach Merrett, Jake Long.
HF: James Kelly, Jayden Laverde, Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti
F: Darcy Parish, Joe Daniher, Jackson Merrett.
Foll: Matthew Leuenberger, Craig Bird, Courtenay Dempsey.
Int: Kyle Langford, Nick Kommer, Conor McKenna, Shaun McKernan.
Emg: Will Hams, Jonathan Simpkin, Mark Jamar
No surprises with the ins and outs.
Doubt we'll see Everitt in navy blue again.
No surprises with the ins and outs.
Doubt we'll see Everitt in navy blue again.
Everitt who? Was that Kenny? ;)
I assume that Everitt has been told to clean out his locker?
For all of his flaws Everitt is the only bloke in the side who consistently kicks goals. Not suggesting he is a champion, just saying is all.
Just re-signed our premier key forward who averages <1 goal per game.
No surprises with the ins and outs.
Doubt we'll see Everitt in navy blue again.
Everitt wouldn't have been named as an emergency if that was the case.
There are two reasons why Everitt will be on our list next season:
1. he's not as bad as some folk think; and
2. no-one else will want him.
We need him to gain that depth we so desparately need.
For all of his flaws Everitt is the only bloke in the side who consistently kicks goals. Not suggesting he is a champion, just saying is all.
Just re-signed our premier key forward who averages <1 goal per game.
He is a good kick at goal. Everitt. Just needs to get more of the footy and work harder at ground level.
For all of his flaws Everitt is the only bloke in the side who consistently kicks goals. Not suggesting he is a champion, just saying is all.
Just re-signed our premier key forward who averages <1 goal per game.
Everitt plays his best when we have two key forwards. When we had one he essentially got the defender that generally went to our 2nd key forward, hence both struggling with that and with the slow delivery. Not surprising he kicked multiple goals mid year when we had the two. Even last year, he kicked 31, and Casboult 24 from 16 games, both rucking and forward, when Hendo was there. Hendo didn't have a real crack but still took the heat of multiple defenders freeing the other two.
Take away Sticks and Fev we've never huge key forwards kick huge goals. Doesn't mean they're not useful, in fact a couple were absolute stars.
Everitt plays his best when we have two key forwards. When we had one he essentially got the defender that generally went to our 2nd key forward, hence both struggling with that and with the slow delivery. Not surprising he kicked multiple goals mid year when we had the two. Even last year, he kicked 31, and Casboult 24 from 16 games, both rucking and forward, when Hendo was there. Hendo didn't have a real crack but still took the heat of multiple defenders freeing the other two.
Take away Sticks and Fev we've never huge key forwards kick huge goals. Doesn't mean they're not useful, in fact a couple were absolute stars.
In every game I have watched this year Everitt has spent far more time on the wing than in the forward line. He has played as a key forward from time to time but that has not been very often. Whether we play one or two key forwards is largely irrelevant to Everitt's role and performance.
What Everitt does really well is run hard to provide an option when we are going forward. His running patterns from the wing into the forward 50 and inside 50 are very good and he creates plenty of marking targets as well as drawing defenders away from the forwards.
Everitt wouldn't have been named as an emergency if that was the case.
There are two reasons why Everitt will be on our list next season:
1. he's not as bad as some folk think; and
2. no-one else will want him.
Could be to try maintain his trade value at a respectable level?
If we hang on to him for next year and he kicks a goal or two when selected then so be it AFAIC, I can live with that until we can turn up a better option.
Suns have three first round picks this year and I reckon he will go to the suns for a third rounder.
Interesting comments from Bolton in his pre-match presser:
"I'm not publicly going into conversations about what players are doing well and areas they need to improve on, but there's some growth areas that we're addressing and he's (Everitt) really clear on them," Bolton said.
"To Andrejs' credit, he's working hard to make that more consistent."
That suggests to me that Bolton sees an upside to Everitt. Whether Everitt's hard work to address his growth areas pays off is the question.
Tackling would be a good start.
Interesting comments from Bolton in his pre-match presser:
That suggests to me that Bolton sees an upside to Everitt. Whether Everitt's hard work to address his growth areas pays off is the question.
Seemed to me to be playing the Everitt thing with a straight bat. You can't be critical of a product you're going to try and flog.
Interesting comments from Bolton in his pre-match presser:
That suggests to me that Bolton sees an upside to Everitt. Whether Everitt's hard work to address his growth areas pays off is the question.
Says to me that we have to try and get the best out of him while he's still on our books. A pretty non-committal statement IMO.
Seemed to me to be playing the Everitt thing with a straight bat. You can't be critical of a product you're going to try and flog.
Cynical Baggers?
I really don't think that Everitt has currency. If that is the case, trying to address his shortcomings is a reasonable option.
Tackling would be a good start.
What are you saying ???
He laid a tackle last week, hell he even started a second one. 2e happened to drop in to complete it.
Cynical Baggers?
I really don't think that Everitt has currency. If that is the case, trying to address his shortcomings is a reasonable option.
Agree that he'd have little currency. He seems to have a few dreadful habits, firstly, not to commit his body to the tackle/in dispute rough stuff. He tries to tackle with his hands and arms only which makes his tackles easy to break.
Secondly, he seems to be fragile/timid when serious heat is in the game, drops marks etc.
Thirdly, he seems to be a lazy pr1ck defensively speaking and when the ball is in dispute (doesn't work hard enough when he's not in the play), but when we gain possession he suddenly comes to life - lays off good handballs and sprints to create space and opportunity up forward. His offensive game is really good and that may suit another club. Bottom line is that when C Curnow, Harry, SOS etc are all playing regular footy Everitt won't get a look in. Could you really trust him to hurt for the club in the fire of a final? We've got a lot of blokes who will.
He really is an enigma , one of the only players that can kick straight , can mark, but defensively poor, we have a bunch of players that fit the mould can do 2 out of three but poor the third. With a bunch of players like that hard to have consistency in a squad.
I know it's a nothing game but against this mob I never like losing. And this year more please we can't possibly lose can we.
Will be spewing if the cheats lift for this and we don't. And we know they have a habit of getting us when they are decent underdogs. They bought Goddard back so reckon they want to give it the best crack. Hate that pr1ck too.
Really want to end a promising year with a comfortable win.