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Re: AFL Practice Match 2021 Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #120
I generally have as much regard for anything essenscum as a fresh dog log on the front lawn, but I'll make an exception and wish Hurley all the best because he needs it.   Having fought staph myself he needs all the help modern medicine can give him right now.
DrE is no more... you ok with that harmonica man?

Re: AFL Practice Match 2021 Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #121
Watched the game again and found a number of things to be pleased about or just plain interesting. These observations are framed with the full knowledge this was a practice match.

Strong improvement in disposal by foot, especially after qtr time.

We have a number of blokes who can quickly switch direction and wrong foot opponents: Zachery, Saad, Dow, Murphy, Williams, Betts, Jones (sometimes with our hearts in our mouths), Doc, SPS... etc.

That goal coming from a Dow lightning hand off to Saad who ran through the middle and kicked truly to Crippa in the goal square was bloody awesome.

Multiple goal kickers.

Zachery is coming along beautifully as a small forward and is so quick that the defensive area of his game will panic/pressure many a back line opponent.

For mine the biggest difference in the game of Dow was his confidence. It looked like he knew he fitted in whereas, in the past, there was a kind of hesitation. This bloke will only continue to improve... and he has the tricks.

Pitto may not have had A grade opponents against cheats.com.au but I love what he brings to our ruck division - hardness and a genuine love of the contest. Just a dash of Wow Jones about him.

Assigning Murphy to the role of small forward is playing him to his remaining elite strength - he is deadly around goals and can create them from nothing.

Cuningham still worries me. Oozes skill but still vanishes for extended periods. All between the ears with this kid.

Liked SOJ's game. Reads the game so well and has a fair-dinkum dip. You can just tell he loves the club.

We have a bona fide midfield mix that will trouble the best.

Yes, just a practice match but certainly one of the much better performances I've seen pre-season in quite a while. And I am well aware that 'one swallow does not a summer make.'

Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: AFL Practice Match 2021 Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #122
I mentioned last year that Pittonet would be a good addition for the club.  No reason to alter that opinion.  Williams and Saad will have an immediate presence and place pressure on other players keen to contest for positions.  An overdue changing of the guard perhaps.

Sorta reminds me of the Buzz and Hunter impact in 1981.

Re: AFL Practice Match 2021 Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #123
Dont fancy Moore vs Richmond rnd1...he wont touch it and his opponents like Nankervis in the ruck or Grimes, Astbury, Balta etc down back will tear us a new one.
Who did Essendon have in the ruck...kids?
McDonald probably makes more sense, any long term injury to Jones or JW and we would be done for the year without some cover IMO.
Agreed

Re: AFL Practice Match 2021 Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #124
Watched the game again and found a number of things to be pleased about or just plain interesting. These observations are framed with the full knowledge this was a practice match.

Strong improvement in disposal by foot, especially after qtr time.

We have a number of blokes who can quickly switch direction and wrong foot opponents: Zachery, Saad, Dow, Murphy, Williams, Betts, Jones (sometimes with our hearts in our mouths), Doc, SPS... etc.

That goal coming from a Dow lightning hand off to Saad who ran through the middle and kicked truly to Crippa in the goal square was bloody awesome.

Multiple goal kickers.

Zachery is coming along beautifully as a small forward and is so quick that the defensive area of his game will panic/pressure many a back line opponent.

For mine the biggest difference in the game of Dow was his confidence. It looked like he knew he fitted in whereas, in the past, there was a kind of hesitation. This bloke will only continue to improve... and he has the tricks.

Pitto may not have had A grade opponents against cheats.com.au but I love what he brings to our ruck division - hardness and a genuine love of the contest. Just a dash of Wow Jones about him.

Assigning Murphy to the role of small forward is playing him to his remaining elite strength - he is deadly around goals and can create them from nothing.

Cuningham still worries me. Oozes skill but still vanishes for extended periods. All between the ears with this kid.

Liked SOJ's game. Reads the game so well and has a fair-dinkum dip. You can just tell he loves the club.

We have a bona fide midfield mix that will trouble the best.

Yes, just a practice match but certainly one of the much better performances I've seen pre-season in quite a while. And I am well aware that 'one swallow does not a summer make.'


Good assessment - my main reservations from the match related to the 'kick in hope' delivery to the forward line and the fact that Pittonet was often out-reached in centre circle ruck contests.

I really like his around the ground ruckwork and competitiveness but TDK might offer more in the centre circle.

Re: AFL Practice Match 2021 Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #125
Good assessment - my main reservations from the match related to the 'kick in hope' delivery to the forward line and the fact that Pittonet was often out-reached in centre circle ruck contests.

I really like his around the ground ruckwork and competitiveness but TDK might offer more in the centre circle.

Agree. If you see this game as a portent for the home and away season, what you saw was 2 bottom 6 teams IMO. I shudder to think what the turnover count was for both teams. But history has shown it's pretty unwise to stress about scratch matches. There are so many variables and so many different approaches, it's hard to read exposed form in any meaningful way.

Also agree about Pittonet. We got a pretty good glimpse of him last year. An honest player with some toughness. Will have some good moments, but has been and will continue to be exposed by the better rucks in the comp.

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Reply #126
...and the fact that Pittonet was often out-reached in centre circle ruck contests.

I really like his around the ground ruckwork and competitiveness but TDK might offer more in the centre circle.

Pittonet was dominating hitouts to advantage last year. He can't jump as high, but his ruck craft is very good, he'll work out his opponent and tap it down our throats when he does.

Yes he's athletic ability is lacking compared to TDK.....but whose isn't!.....but its been so long since we've had an agressive ruck that can mark and kick that i think its a small price to pay.

Who was our last aggressive ruck? Cain Ackland briefly.....Barnaby French barely....Big Nick?!  :o

Re: AFL Practice Match 2021 Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #127

Who was our last aggressive ruck? Cain Ackland briefly.....Barnaby French barely....Big Nick?!  :o
 WOW Jones
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Re: AFL Practice Match 2021 Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #128
WOW Jones
His aggression towards the ball was excellent. But Fitzy stuck out: a 6 foot 3 ruckmen in a time of giants and he had excellent ruckcraft.
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Re: AFL Practice Match 2021 Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #129
Watched the game again and found a number of things to be pleased about or just plain interesting. These observations are framed with the full knowledge this was a practice match.

Strong improvement in disposal by foot, especially after qtr time.

We have a number of blokes who can quickly switch direction and wrong foot opponents: Zachery, Saad, Dow, Murphy, Williams, Betts, Jones (sometimes with our hearts in our mouths), Doc, SPS... etc.

That goal coming from a Dow lightning hand off to Saad who ran through the middle and kicked truly to Crippa in the goal square was bloody awesome.

Multiple goal kickers.

Zachery is coming along beautifully as a small forward and is so quick that the defensive area of his game will panic/pressure many a back line opponent.

For mine the biggest difference in the game of Dow was his confidence. It looked like he knew he fitted in whereas, in the past, there was a kind of hesitation. This bloke will only continue to improve... and he has the tricks.

Pitto may not have had A grade opponents against cheats.com.au but I love what he brings to our ruck division - hardness and a genuine love of the contest. Just a dash of Wow Jones about him.

Assigning Murphy to the role of small forward is playing him to his remaining elite strength - he is deadly around goals and can create them from nothing.

Cuningham still worries me. Oozes skill but still vanishes for extended periods. All between the ears with this kid.

Liked SOJ's game. Reads the game so well and has a fair-dinkum dip. You can just tell he loves the club.

We have a bona fide midfield mix that will trouble the best.

Yes, just a practice match but certainly one of the much better performances I've seen pre-season in quite a while. And I am well aware that 'one swallow does not a summer make.'


Great summary Baggers, Ill add just one thing from my observations:
Two way running was very good. Mids, wings and fwds ran hard to the backline to lend support. Setters, Dow, SOS, Fish, Ed to name a few all made their way quickly to the back line when required. Whether they were trailing their man or left him to get there I am not sure but there was effort to get back and lend support.
2017-16th
2018-Wooden Spoon
2019-16th
2020-dare to dream? 11th is better than last I suppose
2021-Pi$$ or get off the pot
2022- Real Deal or more of the same? 0.6%
2023- "Raise the Standard" - M. Voss Another year wasted Bar Set
2024-Back to the drawing boardNo excuses, its time

Re: AFL Practice Match 2021 Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #130
Agree with most of what has been written before, however I do worry about the impact, aggressiveness, intensity and/or ground speed of all of Plowman, Curnow, Setterfield, SPS & from time to time Murphy. It's probably unfair to focus on this subset of players, but we do need to increase our intensity, ball  velocity & probably foot speed to trouble the better clubs.

Josh Honey stood out as a player with the tools to add another weapon to the Blues arsenal, however I haven't heard much about him this pre-season. Any update on how he is developing?

Re: AFL Practice Match 2021 Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #131
Agree with most of what has been written before, however I do worry about the impact, aggressiveness, intensity and/or ground speed of all of Plowman, Curnow, Setterfield, SPS & from time to time Murphy. It's probably unfair to focus on this subset of players, but we do need to increase our intensity, ball  velocity & probably foot speed to trouble the better clubs.

Josh Honey stood out as a player with the tools to add another weapon to the Blues arsenal, however I haven't heard much about him this pre-season. Any update on how he is developing?
Out and out speed only works if you can use the ball too.....or offer something else.

All of those mentioned offer something else. Sure it would be good for each of them to have speed too, but thats like saying it'd be good to have 22 Patrick Cripps on your team. Ideal, but not possible.

Re: AFL Practice Match 2021 Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #132
Agree with most of what has been written before, however I do worry about the impact, aggressiveness, intensity and/or ground speed of all of Plowman, Curnow, Setterfield, SPS & from time to time Murphy. It's probably unfair to focus on this subset of players, but we do need to increase our intensity, ball  velocity & probably foot speed to trouble the better clubs.

Josh Honey stood out as a player with the tools to add another weapon to the Blues arsenal, however I haven't heard much about him this pre-season. Any update on how he is developing?
Agree on those thoughts, Tigers will be a good test, they are looking like they will be a bit under manned so I reckon this is about our best chance in years to nail them. They are are a quick rebounding team with foot speed, muscle and will be a test for all those players you mentioned. We should be quicker than last season, intensity and vigor will need to improve though as we often lose games in a quarter where we get blown off the park and its usually because we dont bring enough aggression at the contest and cant change the momentum back. Its fine having pace and skill but you have to be able to get the ball when its hot and do the game changing stuff that turns the game, not sure if we have enough of those types....

 

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Reply #133
Its worth pointing out that we shouldn't try and play like the tigers. The tigers play that way because they have the players to play that way.
We need to play a way that suits our players....and allows us the best chance of winning most weeks, especially in finals.

Re: AFL Practice Match 2021 Carlton vs the Drug Cheats

Reply #134
Its worth pointing out that we shouldn't try and play like the tigers. The tigers play that way because they have the players to play that way.
We need to play a way that suits our players....and allows us the best chance of winning most weeks, especially in finals.
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