Anyone catch Daniel Hoyne on SEN? Talking about teams one at a time, started with Carlton and he said that our ball movement versus Port Adelaide was the fourth fastest this year by any team. Carlton went from long, down the line, tram track football pre the bye to change of angles, speed on ball after it. It was plain for all to see that the players didn’t have the skills to execute. So the coaches tried changing things, the players couldn't execute. Suggested we may well go back to old faithful v Coll.
2023 the same players used to execute. Has to be alot to do with attitude.
To my eye, we have always been poorly skilled/poor decision makers by comparison to top teams for several years. Whether it be in front of goal, clos ing out games, being master of the no look hack kick out of defence, ability to close out games, stop scoring runs etc. The game in 2025 demands players use the ball very well (I wont say elite but..) compared to 2024 and 2023. To my novice eye, 2023 and 2025 are poles apart with respect to game speed and ball movement. The list managers who picked this trend are thriving, those who didn't...
Anyone catch Daniel Hoyne on SEN? Talking about teams one at a time, started with Carlton and he said that our ball movement versus Port Adelaide was the fourth fastest this year by any team. Carlton went from long, down the line, tram track football pre the bye to change of angles, speed on ball after it. It was plain for all to see that the players didn’t have the skills to execute. So the coaches tried changing things, the players couldn't execute. Suggested we may well go back to old faithful v Coll.
Must admit that poster did nail it the last time he said it. Doesn't mean he will this time thought. might have be a coincidence last time.
Anyway, the lack of any hunger at training is more an issue.
Play the kids who will be hungry, result doesnt matter, lets find some players for 2026 and beyond. Voss might enjoy the last 8 weeks if we give him some players who want to learn and give effort for 4 quarters, he owes Binns a game too after singling him out.
"I'm hearing Cowan, Moir and Evans will get a call up this week. Training session lacked any hunger and the skill execution was horrendous. Same same".
In the days I used to go to training, was in the Social Club then, 1981-82, training was always a good indicator of the next weeks performance. Needless to say it was usually pretty sharp but when it stunk the next week's game often stunk.
If that's the case the players have checked out and they've learnt or listened to nothing.
I think the only thing you can say for sure is that with a different coach, things would be different, Not necessarily better, not necessarily worse...(some would argue it couldn't be worse) But different. A classic example of that was when we made the change from Bolton to Teague. Players went to different positions. They were given different roles. Paddy Dow's possessions went from high teen/ low 20s to single figures.
Only good thing with a new coach is we generally produce our best in their first year when enthusiasm is high. So best have everything in order. Voss, like Ratts, managed to keep it going a bit longer, even if it looked the typical falling away in the first 14 rounds of 2023 before the change at Ed's place.
Austria was probably the best first 5 or 10 laps of the season, the racing between Norris and Piastri was as good as it gets before the team orders put the kybosh on it.
I felt sorry for Piastri, he suffered a bit from his past with Alpine doing it's best attempt at a trip pitting cars twice to send them out in front of him on fresh tyres while he was trying to close the gap between himself and Norris. In effect F1 politics robbed us of a grandstand finish, but that's F1.
The only thing that was a bit unsavoury was in the late stages Norris started begging the team for help as Piastri was 0.5s per lap faster and closing rapidly. Norris has a big weakness relative to Piastri, Norris burns tyres faster and is nowhere near as neat and tidy around the track.
What continues to amaze me is Piastri's coolness in a crisis. He got pushed off into the grass by Colopinto and barely flinched. Every other driver on the grid would have carried on like a pork chop. He just gathered it and continued. Made a smart ass remark about Alpine continuing to find ways to f#$% him over
I might change my mind later in the week when the dust settles from Thursdays abomination but right now I give us no chance against the Pies. As Pertz said, all we ask for is 4 qtrs of effort in the form of tackling, getting in their faces and taking away their space.
After 9 or 10 separate attempts, the “wrong bloke” ship has well and truly sailed. Are people seriously believing that if McRae was our coach we would be sitting 13-2 on the ladder?
its really hard to mount any argument to the contrary but IMHO, with fly at our club and vossy st their club, my suspicion is that things would be largely the same.
If you put Verstappen in a mini minor, and me in a Ferrari 488 Pista, Ill beat him.
Haynes made his feelings known. Straight to the point.
Said, "if blokes don't want to perform. we have plenty of young guys coming through in the twos who will play the system we want". Telling it like it is and saying things our other leaders won't.
Haynes made his feelings known. Straight to the point.
Said, "if blokes don't want to perform. we have plenty of young guys coming through in the twos who will play the system we want". Telling it like it is and saying things our other leaders won't.
One thing not being discussed is thast modern footy's extreme running style tactic has a significant impact when teams have a short break. We went from playing to the death against Norp to being run over by Port on an interstate trip just 5 days later.
This week we have 8 days to prepare for the Filth's who have only 6, let's hope WCE front up and push them to the death tonight.
For me I think Jack would be super. What about a joint Jack and Cerra?
Offer TDK VC.
Maybe Weiters, he’s a great speaker but I can’t help but wonder if he’s looking much more into the future into a career at the top of the AFL. He seems extremely intelligent to me.
The only thing Id be offering TDK is a spot in the twos if (a) his form doesnt improve and (b) if he doesnt tell me this week if he is staying or going.
Ollie hollands is showing signs he could make a good leader.
Adam Cerra might he another (he does speak eloquently).
You know a few people come across as many children or not leadership material and then surprise people.
Tex walker James Sicily. Max gawn.
Sometimes thrusting people into these roles will make them grow. I reckon fev may have needed captaincy to kick on and mature back then. For a club where we were he was dedicated enough. Bit selfish though.
Still, you just never know. On paper Murphy was a captain. In practise....
Some who strike
Respectfully Thry, Sicily IMO should not be Haw's captain. He is a petulant man child whose attitude stinks from an outsider looking in. Of course they know better but it wouldnt surprise me if a change is made with him. As for the others, your point is spot on.
