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Who is in our best 22?

1 - Jack Silvagni
[ 10 ] (2.7%)
2 - Lachie Cowan
[ 1 ] (0.3%)
3 - Jesse Motlop
[ 16 ] (4.3%)
4 - Oliver Hollands
[ 14 ] (3.8%)
5 - Adam Cerra
[ 17 ] (4.6%)
6 - Zac Williams
[ 13 ] (3.5%)
7 - Matt Kennedy
[ 9 ] (2.4%)
8 - Lachie Fogarty
[ 2 ] (0.5%)
9 - Patrick Cripps
[ 17 ] (4.6%)
10 - Harry McKay
[ 17 ] (4.6%)
11 - Mitch McGovern
[ 17 ] (4.6%)
12 - Tom De Koning
[ 17 ] (4.6%)
13 - Blake Acres
[ 17 ] (4.6%)
14 - Orazio Fantasia
[ 6 ] (1.6%)
15 - Sam Docherty
[ 17 ] (4.6%)
16 - Jack Carroll
[ 0 ] (0%)
17 - Brodie Kemp
[ 14 ] (3.8%)
18 - Sam Walsh
[ 17 ] (4.6%)
19 - Corey Durdin
[ 2 ] (0.5%)
20 - Elijah Hollands
[ 4 ] (1.1%)
21 - Jack Martin
[ 16 ] (4.3%)
22 - Caleb Marchbank
[ 11 ] (3%)
23 - Jacob Weitering
[ 15 ] (4%)
24 - Nick Newman
[ 17 ] (4.6%)
25 - Jaxon Binns
[ 1 ] (0.3%)
27 - Marc Pittonet
[ 7 ] (1.9%)
28 - David Cuningham
[ 5 ] (1.3%)
29 - George Hewitt
[ 14 ] (3.8%)
30 - Charlie Curnow
[ 16 ] (4.3%)
31 - Harry Lemmey
[ 0 ] (0%)
32 - Matthew Carroll
[ 0 ] (0%)
33 - Lewis Young
[ 2 ] (0.5%)
34 - Rob Monahan
[ 0 ] (0%)
35 - Billy Wilson
[ 0 ] (0%)
37 - Jordan Boyd
[ 5 ] (1.3%)
38 - Sam Durdin
[ 0 ] (0%)
39 - Alex Cincotta
[ 2 ] (0.5%)
40 - Hudson O'Keeffe
[ 0 ] (0%)
41 - Dom Akuei
[ 0 ] (0%)
42 - Adam Saad
[ 17 ] (4.6%)
43 - Ashton Moir
[ 0 ] (0%)
44 - Matthew Owies
[ 4 ] (1.1%)
45 - Alex Mirkov
[ 0 ] (0%)
46 - Matt Cottrell
[ 13 ] (3.5%)

Total Members Voted: 17

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Re: Pick your best 22 of 2023 - Part 1 - Pre-season

Reply #30
Where's Doc going to play this season?

He did give the standard "wherever the coaches want me" response before clarifying;

“[I played] half-forward, midfield, wing. It’ll be the same sort of role for me this year.”
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2023 - Part 1 - Pre-season

Reply #31
As much as I want to join in the spirit of our best 22, I find it too limiting... sorry, K. I, humbly, see it as a, at minimum, best 28.

At this stage, I would guess our starting 23 for R1 (BrisVegas) to be:

Newman          Big Durds          McGovern
Williams           Kemp                Saad
Cottrell             Cripps              Acres
Docherty          McKay              E Hollands
Motlop             Curnow            Owies
R: De Koning    Cerra      Walsh
I: Pittonet, Martin, Marchbank, Hewett
Sub: Hollands, O.
Emerg: Boyd, Cincotta, Kennedy.
Only our ruthless best, from Board to bootstudders will get us no. 17

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2023 - Part 1 - Pre-season

Reply #32
As much as I want to join in the spirit of our best 22, I find it too limiting... sorry, K. I, humbly, see it as a, at minimum, best 28.

Thats the point baggers. To use 'group mentality' to see who should be deemed as the best. Its hard calls for everyone to make.
Everyone knows i have been Pittonets biggest spruiker and have been critical of TDK (unrealised) potential.
Yet, i left out Pitto and included TDK.

Pitto would be in the 28 though......but that is not the exercise. ;)

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2023 - Part 1 - Pre-season

Reply #33
As much as I want to join in the spirit of our best 22, I find it too limiting... sorry, K. I, humbly, see it as a, at minimum, best 28.

At this stage, I would guess our starting 23 for R1 (BrisVegas) to be:

Newman          Big Durds          McGovern
Williams           Kemp                Saad
Cottrell             Cripps              Acres
Docherty          McKay              E Hollands
Motlop             Curnow            Owies
R: De Koning    Cerra      Walsh
I: Pittonet, Martin, Marchbank, Hewett
Sub: Hollands, O.
Emerg: Boyd, Cincotta, Kennedy.

Come on Shane ... be ruthless  ;)

Hollands, E is suspended for opening round and R1
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2023 - Part 1 - Pre-season

Reply #34
Come on Shane ... be ruthless  ;)

Hollands, E is suspended for opening round and R1

Don't worry about who is suspended and unfit. Assume everyone is fit (unless i say so in the post - like for the rest of the year, Silvagni will be ineligble - but weitering will be eligible despite not being fit for the next 3 months.

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2023 - Part 1 - Pre-season

Reply #35
Don't worry about who is suspended and unfit. Assume everyone is fit (unless i say so in the post - like for the rest of the year, Silvagni will be ineligble - but weitering will be eligible despite not being fit for the next 3 months.

I know that's your rules but Baggers picked a team to play Brisbane  :)
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2023 - Part 1 - Pre-season

Reply #36
I know that's your rules but Baggers picked a team to play Brisbane  :)
I know, just a reminder to him and everyone else what we are trying to do and get everyone on the same page.

Got no issue with him posting a 22 to play the Lions...but put it in the Lions thread (or start one if there isn't one)

When I do an end of season analysis, it needs everyone on the same pages for it to work.

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2023 - Part 1 - Pre-season

Reply #37
Best 22 (ex Silvagni), noting I’d probably play Lewis Young full back Rnd 1 rather than Marchbank.

Kemp Weitering Boyd
Saad  McGovern Docherty
Cottrell Walsh Acres
Motlop Curnow Martin
Durdin McKay DeKoning

Pittonet Cerra Cripps

Newman Cunningham Hewett Kennedy

Others at AFL standard
Def - Cowan, Marchbank, Young, Williams, Cincotta
Mid - Hollands x2, Binns
Forward - Fantasia, Owies


Re: Pick your best 22 of 2023 - Part 1 - Pre-season

Reply #38
Just for comparison, this is Rohan Connolly's version of our best 22:

B: Caleb Marchbank, Jacob Weitering, Nic Newman
HB: Sam Docherty, Brodie Kemp, Adam Saad
C: Blake Acres, Patrick Cripps, Matt Cottrell
HF: Matthew Owies, Harry McKay, Jesse Motlop
F: Jack Martin, Charlie Curnow, Mitch McGovern
R: Tom De Koning, Adam Cerra, Sam Walsh
Inter: George Hewett, Marc Pittonet, Zac Williams, Ollie Hollands
Emerg: Matthew Kennedy, Alex Cincotta, Lachie Fogarty, David Cuningham

For a start, Doc won't play in defence and Gov is unlikely to play as a forward.

The most telling part of Connolly's analysis is, "With the likes of Orazio Fantasia, Boyd, Lewis Young, Elijah Hollands, Lachie Cowan and Corey Durdin missing out on a spot in their best 26, the Blues’ depth for 2024 looks healthy."
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2023 - Part 1 - Pre-season

Reply #39
Best 22 (ex Silvagni), noting I’d probably play Lewis Young full back Rnd 1 rather than Marchbank.

Kemp Weitering Boyd
Saad  McGovern Docherty
Cottrell Walsh Acres
Motlop Curnow Martin
Durdin McKay DeKoning

Pittonet Cerra Cripps

Newman Cunningham Hewett Kennedy

Others at AFL standard
Def - Cowan, Marchbank, Young, Williams, Cincotta
Mid - Hollands x2, Binns
Forward - Fantasia, Owies


I think Young is more than likely to play FB round 1 unless Sam Durdin has a real good preseason series of practice games.
Marchbank did ok playing his role in the finals but he is undersized to take on a player like Lynch.
Young has a chance to reestablish himself in the team with Weitering out short term and Jack out for the season given he can play
back, ruck and even go forward if required and it will be a big year for him imo.

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2023 - Part 1 - Pre-season

Reply #40
I think Young is more than likely to play FB round 1 unless Sam Durdin has a real good preseason series of practice games.
Marchbank did ok playing his role in the finals but he is undersized to take on a player like Lynch.
Young has a chance to reestablish himself in the team with Weitering out short term and Jack out for the season given he can play
back, ruck and even go forward if required and it will be a big year for him imo.

I’ve got Young in my 22 based on the premise that last season was an aberration and playing on Harry and Charlie at training would make him stronger … if it doesn’t kill him 🙂
“Why don’t you knock it off with them negative waves? Why don’t you dig how beautiful it is out here? Why don’t you say something righteous and hopeful for a change?”  Oddball

Re: Pick your best 22 of 2023 - Part 1 - Pre-season

Reply #41
Just for comparison, this is Rohan Connolly's version of our best 22:

B: Caleb Marchbank, Jacob Weitering, Nic Newman
HB: Sam Docherty, Brodie Kemp, Adam Saad
C: Blake Acres, Patrick Cripps, Matt Cottrell
HF: Matthew Owies, Harry McKay, Jesse Motlop
F: Jack Martin, Charlie Curnow, Mitch McGovern
R: Tom De Koning, Adam Cerra, Sam Walsh
Inter: George Hewett, Marc Pittonet, Zac Williams, Ollie Hollands
Emerg: Matthew Kennedy, Alex Cincotta, Lachie Fogarty, David Cuningham

For a start, Doc won't play in defence and Gov is unlikely to play as a forward.

The most telling part of Connolly's analysis is, "With the likes of Orazio Fantasia, Boyd, Lewis Young, Elijah Hollands, Lachie Cowan and Corey Durdin missing out on a spot in their best 26, the Blues’ depth for 2024 looks healthy."

What is telling about Gov to the forward line is that we have a lot of medium sized defenders, Kemp, Marchbank and McGovern (to go with Weitering and even Young) but we don't have any medium forwards now that Silvagni has gone down. Martin is a marking target of sorts, but is more of a taller small who i'd much rather have crumbing than contesting marks.

I reckon i floated similar either this stage last year or the year before for the same reasons.