Carlton Supporters Club

Makes a difference when the ball is being delivered into the forward line quickly and accurately. We all knew Waite's hands were the best in the business - probably best since Loewe or, before that, Swan McKay. Our mids have been w-a-y too slow, lazy, stupid, and inept for too long.

Im not solely of the belief we were doing everything wrong with regards to our players, but I think these guys leaving our club to go to places where they can play the roles that gets the best out of them as opposed to staying with us, where we needed them to shoulder heavier loads has a lot to do with their fortunes even if it is negatively impacting ours.

Not since Fevola was at the club was Waite able to play the role he was better suited to, and even back then we were still short one tall (pardon the pun).

Our full forward now has even better hands than Waite but we just bomb it in to him as well. A bigger problem is when he does take the big mark he is a 50-50 proposal as to whether he can execute a drop punt.

Just a word on Thomas.

Was at the ground and had good seats and watches a lot of work off the ball.

One thing I noticed was Thomas directs and leads well well works off the ball and from what i saw is respected by all even the senior guys. Was directing simmo where to stand  .

I agree he will never be the player he was but I think we might take something from his experience and leadership.

On another point this is why any discussions putting him in the same basket with Gibbs is crap.

One is younger has the body and still the ability but refuses to work hard when the pressure is on while the other doesn't have the body but is a real professional and while his work with footy is only average he sets a great example for the youngsters and I think we still need that sort of player.

Just that if you rate him on what he cost us it's a massive fail -  but if you can get past that we can still get something out of his time in blue.

If Murphy, Gibbs and Kreuzer (ditto Daisy) put in even 'ok' games, we would be winning these matches.

These blokes are the reason we are so bad.....they simply don't produce on a consistent enough basis.

Three #1 and one #2 draft picks producing diddly squat.

Anyone see Gibbs sh1t his pants in front of a marking contest and then get sprayed by Rowe? Or are people still, incredibly enough, considering him a good footballer?  One of the biggest pretenders I've ever seen play the game.

Sponts I'm so sorry bro, I bagged you all those years for singling out Gibbs, you were right.

PI2C this is without a doubt the best day of my life! Thank you my friend!!!

I will now gladly welcome any other apologies 

Michelle (Bluesgirl) is on facebook ranting about Jono Brown saying he's a real Rex Hunt or something along those lines because of what he wrote. Does anyone know what he wrote about us?

Brown made comments about Cotchins wife backing him on social media. He said WAGs should but out or something along those lines.

Not Carlton related then?

That now means Gibbs is a certainty for the B+F!