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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Jim Park Voting 2024 AFL Rd 8 Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by LP -
Team B

5 - McKay
4 - Walsh
3 - Hewett
2 - TDK
1 - E Hollands

Had to give Elijah a vote, didn't get much footy but was one of few who stayed calm and didn't hatch it, I couldn't give Acres a vote for the opposite reason in that he got heaps of footy but b0rked it multiple times. Should give the MC a D- for making Kennedy the sub, that'll go down as the blunder of the season.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by LP -
The current problems have nothing to do with our ruck or midfield, claiming it's the ruck at fault is a confusion of correlation versus causation, and the assertion about the ruck causes a distraction that lets the real issues slip by without being addressed / discussed.

The rucks / midfield didn't;
 - Cause Williams to be penalised.
 - Allow Pendlebury to kick it OOBOTF
 - Ignore the holds on BigH and Charlie.
 - Allow Maynard and Schulz to drop it cold.
 - Cause the frequent poor uncontested disposal going into F50.
 - Cause injuries to Martin, McGovern, Saad, Marchbank, Fogarty and et., al..
 - Permit Fantasia and Durdin to play on largely free of contributions to the match.

Yet the fan overreaction seems to be to pick this moment to force one of our rucks to go solo for four quarters against Gawn.

So the fan tactical plan is to make one of the few areas we are winning at the moment, and turn it into a potential loser! :o
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: General Discussions
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Quote from: Mantis on
I lived in a house of serious domestic violence for 22 years. I would love to tell people what I experienced but some might not want to hear the reality of what takes place. How it has a long term effect on children. I am happy to tell the story if people want to hear it first hand. How it was resolved after a further 25 years later.

I'm really sorry to hear that Mantis.  It's good to know that it was finally resolved even if it took such a long time. 

If you're willing to share your story, I'm sure that many will be interested and willing to learn from your experiences.  We probably should start a new thread though.  Let me know and I'll split the last few posts.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by pinot -
Lost three of four since the decision was made to play two rucks and took away run.
Just not happening. Needs to change - if we persist with it then Pitto needs to do alot more. Needs to either tackle more or take more marks... expecting both is abit much but if he is going to drop marks then he needs to tackle. TDK was tracking nicely in all three categories before moving him forward. He was tackling, marking and winning clearances not as many as Pitto but he has a more balanced A grade type game thats growing. Can't take run away from this team against the Dees. imo
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by Baggers -
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Fans want to whack Williams, but what he did players do all the time and do not get pinged. The willingness of fans to throw rocks at Williams goes back to when he signed on, fans bitched and moaned about the dollars, but that is not Williams fault, much like it wasn't the fault of Martin or McGovern before him. But the dollars put him in the sh1thouse with many fans forever more, with the dollars promoting some weird sort of tall poppy syndrome!


I don't think we're throwing rocks at Williams, Spotted One. I think we're throwing rocks at our coaching. Williams is a creative player by nature so giving him a lockdown role is a throw back to our 'bad old days'... square pegs in round holes. He was set up for failure. To his credit he showed character with his determination to make the best of a bad situation and gave his all. But the damage was done; the horse had bolted.

As LAJ noted, I believe very accurately, our losses this year have been of our own making. Not umpires - though in that Pussycats game there were some howlers.

I have no doubts we're a very good bottom eight side, just a whisker from top four, a far cry from years gone by. Against very good top eight sides we either win narrowly or lose narrowly. No more blowouts.

But with such improvement comes much increased attention and expectation. Opposition sides now put a great deal of preparation into stopping us, seemingly successfully thus far. So our coaching needs to be better... obviously. (For the record I'm not in the 'sack the coach' group, or the 'Voss can't coach,' clan... nuh. Nothing could be further from my mind, and I believe nothing could be further from the truth. He's our man and I hope he's a ten year (+) senior coach at the good ship PP, but he's still learning and growing and making mistakes).

So we find ourselves putting all our faith in the return of Martin & Gov this week. Mm. The upside of a Martin return is Fantasia being sent back to the Magoos to work hard on getting his mojo back. No matter how you slice it, OF has been a liability. And small Durds would also benefit from Magoo time... but give him a midfield role, teach him to hunt the aggot, back himself, rack up possessions.

And our midfield coach needs to be smarter re how to combat opposition sides blocking & teaming against Crippa and Walshy. Hoping the umpires will help us is a folly, borderline illegal tactics are a reality. Develop a strategy, give the players tools to combat this. You can bet that the Go Dees will pour over the Rottingwood game and to a degree emulate strategies to blunt our blokes a la what was done on Friday night.