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Title: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: crashlander on March 20, 2019, 09:06:51 pm
The game is tomorrow afternoon at Richmond. Squads haven't been published yet. I'll publish it if I can, but at the moment I don't get much internet access at work.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: LP on March 21, 2019, 04:15:57 pm
Nobody there to report, anything will be appreciated?
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: Amers on March 21, 2019, 04:36:44 pm
Qtr time here & the Tiger are all over us. 40 v 11.
Lots of errors under strong tiger pressure.
Sitting with the elite up in the grandstand,  I have Jack & Jo Silvagni with both of Jacks grandmothers right in front of me,  Cain Liddle,  SOS, Mick Agresta,  David Teague all sitting nearby.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: Jack Burton on March 21, 2019, 05:00:42 pm
I heard a rumour Polson is not playing in the NBs game, can anyone confirm?
He is named as en emergency for tonight, we could have a late withdrawal?
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: Amers on March 21, 2019, 05:22:21 pm
Polson & J Silvagni not playing, no Kennedy either, in the VFL practice  game.
@ half time the score is 50 v 37, the Tiger are still up, although  a much better qtr from the Blues. The main difference was their lift in intensity.
Matt Owies is playing in his first game. Ben Silvagni has probably impressed me the most of the Blues listed players, rarely loses in the air, and is composed with ball in hand.
Everybody has done some nice things, but overall we are too often out numbered around the contest, not organised enough either going forward and at times defending too.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: townsendcalling on March 21, 2019, 05:42:17 pm
Polson & J Silvagni not playing, no Kennedy either.

At least one player needs to be on standby as a ‘ready to go’ emergency for the main team. I wouldn’t read too much into Silvagni and Polson not being out there.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: Amers on March 21, 2019, 06:07:22 pm
73 v41 @ 3qtr time.
No Silvagni, Owies or Stocker that qtr.
Richmond are much more organized and when they are on they are hard to stop.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: laj on March 21, 2019, 06:13:16 pm
De Koning has been terrific.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: Amers on March 21, 2019, 06:29:15 pm
93 v54 Final score, now off to the main game....
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: crashlander on March 22, 2019, 12:43:18 pm
Qtr time here & the Tiger are all over us. 40 v 11.
Lots of errors under strong tiger pressure.
Sitting with the elite up in the grandstand,  I have Jack & Jo Silvagni with both of Jacks grandmothers right in front of me,  Cain Liddle,  SOS, Mick Agresta,  David Teague all sitting nearby.
They wouldn't let me in! :( :( :(
Matthew Owies played yesterday and looked raw. The way he ran and kicked reminded me of Carrazzo. James El-Moussali wore 44 and he looked even more like Carrazzo. Both made a couple of awful errors, but ...
We were smashed in the ruck and in the mid-field.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: Wet Willie on March 22, 2019, 01:33:50 pm
Owies played basketball at school, so very new to football...
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: flyboy77 on March 22, 2019, 01:37:50 pm
Owies played basketball at school, so very new to football...

not quite. he was an elite underage footballer - but opted to focus on b'ball circa age 14/15.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: Wet Willie on March 22, 2019, 01:39:38 pm
Exactly, at St Kevins he played basketball as his prime sport for many years...
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on March 22, 2019, 02:13:50 pm
Owies looks a good kick, easy style and he just needs match play to adjust to the pressure , when he adapts he will be a smart player as small point guards rely on brains to distribute the ball and we saw point in case with Ed Curnow...Ed at the top of the key(50m mark) and zero idea what play to run as well as being too slow.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: Thryleon on March 22, 2019, 03:07:08 pm
not quite. he was an elite underage footballer - but opted to focus on b'ball circa age 14/15.

Whats an elite under age footballer look like vs an elite over age footballer?

I know we like positive signs of anything, but IMHO, 14-18 are the formative years of an athletes body, and thats where they really start learning the nuances of the game, how to play position, and refine their craft.

We will see, but if he plays even 50 games at AFL level he will be deemed a roaring success.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: LP on March 22, 2019, 03:49:56 pm
We will see, but if he plays even 50 games at AFL level he will be deemed a roaring success.

There are some that expect him to get there easily, it'll be interesting, from what I have heard the physical part of the game won't be an issue. Fitness shouldn't be an issue, but as Billy Slater pointed out on TFS, AFL is a different type of fitness to most other sports.

Glad to hear Owies has some skills, they are sorely needed!
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: Professer E on March 22, 2019, 05:06:18 pm
Did Stocker play?   My neighbour (a high level coterie member)  reckons he is a stone overweight.  I find that very hard to believe but can anybody confirm how he went if he played?
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: cookie2 on March 22, 2019, 05:57:16 pm
There are some that expect him to get there easily, it'll be interesting, from what I have heard the physical part of the game won't be an issue. Fitness shouldn't be an issue, but as Billy Slater pointed out on TFS, AFL is a different type of fitness to most other sports.

Glad to hear Owies has some skills, they are sorely needed!

The AFL would demand much higher levels of aerobic fitness than other codes surely?
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: townsendcalling on March 22, 2019, 06:04:54 pm
Did Stocker play?   My neighbour (a high level coterie member)  reckons he is a stone overweight.  I find that very hard to believe but can anybody confirm how he went if he played?

He must have put on a s!&t load since he joined the club, based on this photo. I find it hard to believe.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: crashlander on March 22, 2019, 08:27:14 pm
Did Stocker play?   My neighbour (a high level coterie member)  reckons he is a stone overweight.  I find that very hard to believe but can anybody confirm how he went if he played?
He played the first half only and he was not the only one to do that. I didn't see much of him: I got there in the 2nd quarter.
Ben Silvagni was another. The most I saw of him was at 3/4 time when I went out to the huddle.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: Shakin77 on March 22, 2019, 10:27:49 pm
How did Sam Fisher go?
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: Thryleon on March 23, 2019, 09:09:35 am
Did Jesse palmer play well??
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: crashlander on March 23, 2019, 11:54:06 am
Did Jesse palmer play well??
He was very rusty: it was his first outing and he needed the run. Nowhere near his best.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: crashlander on March 23, 2019, 11:55:02 am
How did Sam Fisher go?
His least effective game for a long time. But we were pounded in the middle.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: Professer E on March 23, 2019, 05:26:32 pm
AFL site reporting De Konig strained a knee, after a dominant performance.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: Thryleon on March 23, 2019, 08:23:35 pm
AFL site reporting De Konig strained a knee, after a dominant performance.

Early signs are good.

Will see a specialist on Tuesday.   They are saying it's a lateral ligament which is not as bad as a pcl or ACL.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: crashlander on March 23, 2019, 08:35:23 pm
Early signs are good.

Will see a specialist on Tuesday.   They are saying it's a lateral ligament which is not as bad as a pcl or ACL.
That is promising, but at lateral ligament is usually a 6 - 8  week injury, depending on how bad it is. I can't comment on how bad it is, but the scuttlebutt is suggesting it will be closer to 6 weeks. Not a disaster, but not the best.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: crashlander on March 23, 2019, 09:25:24 pm
NORTHERN BLUES    1.1      5.7      5.11         7.12 (54)
RICHMOND           6.4       7.8      10.13           13.15 (93)

GOALS
Northern Blues: De Koning 2, Keppel 2, El Moussalli, Wheeler, Wilson

BESTS
Northern Blues: Wilson, De Koning, Wheeler, Fisher, O’Brien
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: Professer E on March 23, 2019, 09:40:22 pm
Not enough listed players named in the bests,  those guys should be creaming it at that level aiming to play seniors.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: ianh on March 24, 2019, 11:01:39 am
Whats an elite under age footballer look like vs an elite over age footballer?

I know we like positive signs of anything, but IMHO, 14-18 are the formative years of an athletes body, and thats where they really start learning the nuances of the game, how to play position, and refine their craft.

We will see, but if he plays even 50 games at AFL level he will be deemed a roaring success.

Given that players who cross from other countries eg the Irish and Americans are able to pick up the game with ZERO underage experience I cannot see how limited underage experience can be a death knell for Matt Owies.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: LP on March 24, 2019, 12:41:31 pm
Given that players who cross from other countries eg the Irish and Americans are able to pick up the game with ZERO underage experience I cannot see how limited underage experience can be a death knell for Matt Owies.

Owies was an elite junior footballer, played above age and was on the radar of the TAC Cup squads before he chose basketball.

Fans seem to be happy to ignore this fact, but think it really tells us that success or failure will be more a mindset issue than a physical barrier for Owies.
Title: Re: VFL Practice match Blues vs. Richmond Thursday 21 March
Post by: Thryleon on March 24, 2019, 03:38:22 pm
Given that players who cross from other countries eg the Irish and Americans are able to pick up the game with ZERO underage experience I cannot see how limited underage experience can be a death knell for Matt Owies.

Dont get me wrong, I think he'll be ok, but of the number of converts that try it out, most of the successful ones are quite limited.

Zach tuohy is the exception not the rule.  As is Mason cox.  For each one of these guys, there are at least 5 others that barely rate a mention if they even get a game.  Then you have your ciaran Sheehan and ciaran Byrne types too.

Going back to owies, elite junior footballers are fine, but how can you dictate whom they are elite next to, when elite juniors dont necessarily become elite seniors if they become seniors at all?