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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by madbluboy -
If he's declared ready to play, he'll be fit enough. The days of needing matches in the 2s are over for players like Martin. Get him straight in.

His base fitness levels are generally poor. Most players can come straight back in but not him. His first game back last year against the bombers had to be subbed off as he was absolutely spent.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by pinot -
Why 20 years? Because 23 years hurt your argument?
Triple premiership player Clark Keating played 20, 12 and 12 games in premiership years. The last of which he didn't play his 1st game until R15. THe next year when they were runner ups he only played 11 as well.

Geelong has made resting players a fine art with an ageing list. Danger, Selwood, Hawkins, Cameron.....whoever, they all get an extra rest of 2 throughout the year. Works for them.


I am not sure where you find Marchbank and Martin are being rested they have being rested for 5-6 years.

You are comparing players that will be lucky to get 10 games out of them per season to 200+ game players over the age of 30
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by kruddler -
Not sure which grand final team past 20 years had key players missing for half a season...Saady injury is part of the footy gods the other two their bodies are not up to AFL football - I guess it comes down to how much we pay them if we pay them for half a year worth of input then okay if not then not okay.

Why 20 years? Because 23 years hurt your argument?
Triple premiership player Clark Keating played 20, 12 and 12 games in premiership years. The last of which he didn't play his 1st game until R15. THe next year when they were runner ups he only played 11 as well.

Geelong has made resting players a fine art with an ageing list. Danger, Selwood, Hawkins, Cameron.....whoever, they all get an extra rest of 2 throughout the year. Works for them.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 8 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Collingwood
Last post by BlackRooster -
Interesting reads. I genuinely believed we had the players on the ground to beat Collingwood. Was i too optimistic? What i did see was that we played dumb football and got out coached. Dumb football, always kicking the ball into the forward line with no real purpose. Out coached, Collingwood send two extra at all the ball ups and we had no idea what to do to combat this.

Just my thoughts, bring on those Deeeees
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Domestic violence and why the government will struggle to attention the problem.
Last post by Gointocarlton -
Thankyou for sharing Mantis and I am so sorry you and your dear mum had to live that. I can understand how the trauma of that life would linger for ever but rest assured, this place has always been and will always be a safe space for you and anyone else with similar experiences. There are people on here with a wealth of knowledge and expertise who if they can help you themselves, can point you in the direction of people who can (if you have already reached out to professionals). Me? I cant offer you any such professional help but I can always be a person who can and will give you an ear to talk to anytime if you were to need it. No judgements, just someone to vent to if it helps. Send me a PM anytime mate.

I do have a couple who we were great friends with but we (my wife and I) decided to end it for a host of reasons. They were quite wealthy, initially at least, but he subjected her to years of abuse (mental and physical - nothing like you describe above) but there was almost always drugs and alcohol involved by both parties. He claims she abused him also but I dont believe it for a minutes as he was nothing but a compulsive liar. I and others in the circle of friends were oblivious to the fact this was A. going on and B. going on for so long. After finding out, I always wondered why she hung around. I put it down to money. When I ended the friendship, my last words to her were me suggesting she call the police and a lawyer. Don't know if she ever did, don't really care as they were both extremely toxic people.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2024 Pre Game Prognostications Carlton vs Melbourne
Last post by pinot -
Depth is obviously not good enough. Marchbank and Martin have never played a full season and not sure they should be at the club next season. Kemp is durable and still gobsmacked he was dropped and still gobsmacked Kennedy was sub. Expect the unexpected.

To keep top four chances alive this is a must win match.

I'll go even deeper - Moir has had a tough run in the VFL in a very weak team limited with opportunity. He should be sub instead of Fantasia. Binns should definitely play full game - his outstanding and consistent form deserves it