Carlton Supporters Club

If its one thing Vossy knows its that once you get to finals, everything that comes before means nothing.

The way Leigh Matthews used to get his side cheery ripe for finals and dominate despite never finishing top.
2001 - 2004
2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 2nd - Flag, flag, flag, runners up.

If anyone had any doubts about Pittonets ruck ability after yesterdays efforts then they don't understand football.

One of the thing that's really impressive is his use of handball at the moment.
He's standing in tackles and dishing it off.

Not sure many doubted him or his ruck ability.
You're the one who wanted to leave him out of the side  

One of the thing that's really impressive is his use of handball at the moment.
He's standing in tackles and dishing it off.

Plenty did and kept saying how useless those stats were and how he does nothing around the ground too.

Can't hear any of that now.

Even i underestimated his abilities.

Its imagine what a player can do when he gets back to full fitness.

My preference is still to play 1 ruck and have another player give a chop out, but that other player needs to be able to hold down another spot on his own merits. Currently, TDK is doing that with the absense of a 3rd tall in Silvagnis mold. The moment TDK drops off up forward is the moment he or Pitto needs to be dropped.

Then its a matter of who you think is best and why.

....and thats the part people cant agree on because different people weigh up different areas differently.

And both would be well within the best 22 at the moment.
Would you drop Pittonet or Tom to add 'one of'  Cincotta, Binns, Durdin, Owies, Carroll, Cowan, either Hollands etc etc.

Yep. My TV barely survived that one.

Further to that, doesn’t matter which player of ours it was, why the hell were they 3 metres away? For god’s sake, if anyone should have a player’s hand placed on their chest by way of tracking their position in space and time, it’s Cameron - especially when the game’s on the line in the last few minutes.

Yes, can't help but agree totally.  Where was the Carlton player whose job was to wear Cameron (Geelong's most dangerous forward) like a skin?  At least Binnsie tried to man up, but hardly his role.
Feel for our coaches watching on such inept defensive work

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Williams is not a defender per se', we all know that and Chris Scott exploited it to perfection. Unfortunately, his team mates (in defence) let him down by lack of support. Zac is a creative run and carry HB with good disposal skills, yesterday he was taken to places he just didn't want to go to. He and his team mates will review it and learn. The key to a premiership is a solid, consistant back 6 or 7, whilst we are treading water at the minute, we aren't are premiership threat right now due to the disruption of the defensive unit. Once we get them back and they can regain their cohesion and consistency, then will we see if we are contenders or not.

If he staged then he should be suspended. I would like the AFL to come out and say it was a free kick or he staged.

I didn't give him a vote, but plenty impressed with Boyd, gets better every week.

Made a few mistakes that burned some opportunities, but fixed most of them, his relentless 2nd efforts are A-Grade, others need to watch his intensity.

That's the thing though
Pittonet and Tom 'are' very different ruckmen.

And both would be well within the best 22 at the moment.
Would you drop Pittonet or Tom to add 'one of'  Cincotta, Binns, Durdin, Owies, Carroll, Cowan, either Hollands etc etc.

You cant be on 800k a year and turn the ball over like he did vs good teams like Geelong. As was pointed out by "Pinot"his efforts or lack of led to 3-4 goals being scored by Geelong and the attacking value he gives isnt worth his lack of defensive prowess. His disposal is way overrated imho and I wouldnt have him in my best 22 and he is very fortunate we are down on troops with injury and he doesnt have much competition for his spot.
Stengle at 175cm/73kg outbodied Zac 183cm/84kg in the goal square for an easy mark and goal which was just garbage defense from our man imo...its very hard to hold your place in the backline as an attacking only player and your skillset and decision making has to be at the Nick Daicos level to get away with it and Zac is nowhere near that high bar.