I expect very few to agree with my post. I didn't post it to be popular, it's simply an honest opinion.
If the spreadsheets aren't good, you may not have a foyer to walk into, or cabinets to house cups or walls to hang photos of our greats or a ground to call 'home', but I get your point. The first responsibility of any Board is to ensure viability and fiscal responsibility. They've achieved that, very, very well. From there, however...
If the independent review was held at season's end it would very likely have come to the same conclusions... and then we'd have had only a few weeks before season 2022's commencement, at best, to institute the recommended changes - terrible governance and a wonderful invitation to a giant 8 ball for us to fall in behind.
As I mentioned before, it is apparent to me that the timing of this review sought to address immediate troubles and to take the long view. And to suggest Sayers is guilty of some clandestine sabotage is *****, he would not be where he is today with such a scurrilous attitude or strategy. Quite the contrary.
I don't think there was clandestine sabotage. I agree that is some dumb 5hit.
I just think you have overlooked the board and president are directly responsible for running a football club - not a business. Generating profit is only relevant if you can demonstrate you know how to take those resources and translate it into on-field success. Without that it means nothing.
The pass mark for running a football club can't be $ in isolation.
The review was called after Teague had coached about 40 games. 40 games !! How is that even possible ? With covid and all the rest. I'm not sure if they think Teague is making them look bad because the results don't fit with their unrealistic, feel good messaging in pre season, or what's going on. But that's appalling. His W/L hovers around 40%-45%. It's not that bad, and not the sort of results that warrant a review IMO.
So as I see it, the Board is either incompetent or malevolent or both (as I've said before). It's hard to believe Sayers couldn't see this coming. He wants to show the fans that he's taking action, but it just seems like the same old panicked, knee jerk, rash decision making from the masters in the field.
In fairness to the board the review wasn't into David Teague. The media have made it so - which is the bit our board missed when they launched it. They've created a pressure-cooker environment for Teague from that point on. An unsafe work environment from a mental health perspective.
'Old Carlton' by now, even well before now, would have sacked Teague and a caretaker would be, or would have been, in place. For those, including me, who've questioned our Board, I sense change in governance and procedures is afoot. Thus far, a pleasant change and hopefully indicative of a 'new' and strong direction. Good to see MLG handing over this week. On his watch the dreadful debt has been erased, an important legacy... now to strengthen those foundations and address and restructure the footy dept. Hard to imagine those complicit in the poor governance re the footy dept getting off scot-free. Has the broom of accountability hit the floor ready to begin sweeping?
Well, I guess I remain one of the few who doesn't have an issue with launching an independent review mid-season - for me this was a 'long view' approach. At the risk of appearing somewhat callous, only the non-performers need feel pressured by something like this. Plus I'd prefer, using a medical metaphor, a patient's (CFC) concerning symptomatology be addressed asap, regardless of who might feel pressured or inconvenienced.
I can't say I agree with much in this post.
Being debt free is great but you don't walk into the foyer at Princes Park and look at the spreadsheets on the wall.
I just hope we stick with Teague and find some gun assistant coaches to support him and, in particular, run the midfield.
We saw what it did for Kennedy and Dow when Barker walked out. We need fresh ideas across all lines but in particular our midfield is our biggest issue.
Thats fine, but had Collingwood been Carlton, we probably would have sacked him circa 2004, and then not won the flag in 2010.
He definately wouldnt have lasted 2005 on the back of 2004. THAT is the difference between us and Collingwood. We might have even sacked him after the second successive Grand Final loss to Brisbane.
We would have said after being in 3 grand finals, Mick isnt good enough to win won, and sacked him.
Yeah to be clear I'm definitely not disagreeing with you. Our club finds ways to shoot its own foot off. Just pointing out where Clarkson is at now is more akin to when MM joined Collingwood as opposed to when he joined us which - I agree - was when he was past it and also after a full year out.
A point worth noting is that it seems very hard for older coaches who have had a long tenure at their current club to move house and integrate quickly and well in a new environment… think Pagan, think Malthouse, think Sheedy, makes me extra wary of Clarkson (admittedly younger than the other three)
At their original long tenure club these guys are the centre of the universe and certainly the players either fall into line or don’t last and if everyone else is in line new players are more likely to also fall into line… it’s a natural cohesion.
Put that coach into a fresh environment and stuff can hit the fan quickly…
Not sure Malthouse should be on that list given he moved from WC to Coll at a similar age to what Clarkson is at now and then won a premiership.
For the record - I'm definitely in the keep Teague camp but with the Log departing early (he had until Feb to step down I think) it makes me think that Sayers wants to clearly own the process of canning / replacing Teague.
I may be jumping at shadows but my guess is that Teague's tenure will end Sunday whether Clarkson is interested or not.
Can't help but wonder what our best team, all fit would play like. It's the stuff of imagination... sadly.
B Nic Newman Jacob Weitering Caleb Marchbank Zac Williams Liam Jones Adam Saad
M Sam Docherty Patrick Cripps Zac Fisher
F Jack Silvagni Charlie Curnow Jack Martin Eddie Betts Harry McKay Tom De Koning
R Marc Pittonet Matthew Kennedy Sam Walsh
I Mitch McGovern Paddy Dow Liam Stocker Josh Honey
We just have to find a fitness guru capable of keeping half of them on the park.
Emergencies: Ed Curnow David Cuningham Will Setterfield Lochie O'Brien Levi Casboult Jack Newnes Michael Gibbons Lachie Fogarty Tom Williamson Brodie Kemp Sam Petrevski-Seton Matt Owies
At this stage you'd have to say TDK is a perfect 2nd ruck who can also be a dangerous tall forward. Probably a bit too early to take the reigns as 1st ruck. Still a bit light and lacking a bit of endurance. Seriously fought hard today though. That Lycett is a pr1ck.
Besides the putrid umpiring that changed the momentum on the second quarter I have to say
Listening to the Fox commentary crew would have to be the lowlight of my day. Dixon has clearly been beaten by Weiters yet listening to Jono Brown he keeps trying to talk up Dixon, it’s an absolute joke.
What a crap game.
I wonder it they're aware of just how frustrating that is to listen to. When the team is getting well beaten and the commentators won't even acknowledge how completely destroyed Dixon has been
I don't think there has been enough made of the board's decision to push back the AGM until February. Transparent attempt to avoid scrutiny right now knowing they need to let the dust settle on the review. Used Covid as an excuse.
