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Re: Be strong, say NO

Reply #76
Well Lods, a bit of positive reinforcement going on there based on who was posting back then and who is posting now!

The reason we lost was obviously Edelsten! ::)
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Re: Be strong, say NO

Reply #77
From memory I think we went a bit ballistic in the match day thread. ;)

http://www.carltonsc.com/index.php?topic=2052.0

From page 4 on :D...maybe not ballistic but rated a mention.

When you have one of the heavier losses for the year, the colours of people's underwear start being an issue.

We are an emotional lot, which shows we care, but I've even seen someone get frustrated at the size of Eddie Betts shorts when we were being beaten.

"everything you know is wrong"

Paul Hewson

Re: Be strong, say NO

Reply #78
LP...People invest when they get a return, or they invest their money elsewhere...the old Carlton forgot about the rank and file and have paid the price since.
Trigg has tried to mend that bridge but the only way back is to be successful and win games.....too many of the old punters remember the clubs love for Corporates, Pokie kings and cardboard entrepreneurs...and the disdain of man in the street members who were treated with contempt by the likes of Elliott etc...
Pies and Dons have always encouraged the working man to the club and never turned them away and thats why even in bad times they stick fat...

people also make excuses when things arnt going well. not being or ever likely to be a corporate member i dont expect he same level of treatment that corporates receive. during my many years of membership i have never felt the clubs disdain of my involvement - but then i knew exactly what i was buying and did not expect more. to many are dishonest and will make up a reason for not supporting without honestly saying they are fair weather supporters or tightarses.


Re: Be strong, say NO

Reply #79
Well Lods, a bit of positive reinforcement going on there based on who was posting back then and who is posting now!

The reason we lost was obviously Edelsten! ::)

clearly it was the docs fault the side was rubbish. hey maybe part of the prize allowed him to make a couple of changes - perhaps the prudes have a point - nah just kidding. go the doc go blues!

Re: Be strong, say NO

Reply #80
And the excuses and rationalisations come rolling in................ ::)

Hey, we're open for business - we take money from anybody - we aren't proud or squeamish.
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: Be strong, say NO

Reply #81
Cannot a Carlton supporter just be a Carlton supporter regardless, must we judge their value as a supporter on the rest of their non-Carlton life? If we must, then we may as well throw out half our members! Terrorists, dole bludgers, drug addicts, racists, thiefs, embezzlers, anarchists, liberals, socialists, lawyers, corporate psychopaths, car or vacuum salesmen, bikies, priests, teachers, tradies and politicians. According to the media they are all generally no good!

It would be truly ironic to turn the social media blowtorch on the likes of Ralph or Craig! They are high enough profile to have many enemies with plenty of skeletons those enemies can dig up!

As for the treatment of Edelsten, I don't want our club to be two faced, I've seen it before in the treatment of Jack Elliott. Too many were happy to be there slapping him on the back and shaking his hand when he shouted the bar after a victory, only to stab him in the back when we lost. We are not a soccer club, that behaviour can stay in the world game!
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Re: Be strong, say NO

Reply #82
We own more pokie machines than anyone else yet we're to say no to Geoff Edelstein's money?

Pokie machines destroy lives - Geoff marries strippers. Can't see the debate here.

Re: Be strong, say NO

Reply #83
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We own more pokie machines than anyone else yet we're to say no to Geoff Edelstein's money?

Pokie machines destroy lives - Geoff marries strippers. Can't see the debate here.

 :D
Just illustrates his impeccable judgement and identifies the anatomical centre of his thinking abilities!
Reality always wins in the end.

Re: Be strong, say NO

Reply #84
If it wasn't for business men who were a bit dodgy and free with their sexual favours we may not still be operating. ;)

I'm probably the most conservative bloke on the site (not necessarily in politics though!) but the Doc is well down on my list of things that we need to address.

Footy clubs are "colourful" places, they attract "colourful" identities, always have always will.
It's part of the show.
We're not a church (actually skip that ...bad example ::))

Edelstein isn't the face of the club any more than a Dave Hughes but there is an association...and it's not going away.