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Title: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: crashlander on July 10, 2014, 05:46:23 pm
Nobody seems to be thinking of this week's game at all as yet.
Granted that things are not looking like the sort of victory we experienced last week, but are we that sure we will fail?
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: cookie2 on July 10, 2014, 05:53:42 pm
Just noticed it's live (in Mel) on Ch7 so I'll definitely be watching. Not super optimistic, to say the least, but certainly hoping we can back up from last week - haven't seen the teams as yet.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: MosquitoFleet on July 10, 2014, 06:02:48 pm
Swans by a minimum of 6 goals
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: crashlander on July 10, 2014, 06:05:19 pm
It is nice for us to on TV: we haven't had that much air time this year compared to the last couple and our 'draw' has not been conducive to making money. Even our new president has comments on that.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: Amers on July 10, 2014, 06:22:06 pm
Wow Thursday night and 4 comments in the pre game thread, things are quiet around here!

I wonder why? ???
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: denimundies on July 10, 2014, 06:22:52 pm
Absolutely relaxed about the result of this game, no stress whatsoever if we loose. Will only be stressed if we win. Bring on the draft.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on July 10, 2014, 06:23:32 pm
For me I'm a little flat, nothing left to play for so early in the season, another shellacking a big possibility. Only thing to look forward to is blokes like Yazz, Cas and the Menz.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: ItsOurTime on July 10, 2014, 06:30:52 pm
Luckily no Tippet as the idea of our guys having to cover he and buddy is a scary idea.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: crazyjoedevolamk11 on July 10, 2014, 06:38:00 pm
For me I'm a little flat, nothing left to play for so early in the season, another shellacking a big possibility. Only thing to look forward to is blokes like Yazz, Cas and the Menz.

No Menz unfortunately  :( but Graham is back for another week at least....then back to the Magoos for the next 4 ::)
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on July 10, 2014, 06:50:05 pm
After donning the green vest no doubt. Or maybe Blaine might get it.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: spf on July 10, 2014, 06:51:40 pm
Hope Blaine starts - liked the look of him against the Saints.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: Professer E on July 10, 2014, 06:56:57 pm
What's Ellard done to get a game?  Is Cachia fit?
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: Jb on July 10, 2014, 07:21:21 pm
 >:(why does ellard keep getting a go? He is an average plodder at best..Cachia deserves his chance before Davy boy...
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: crashlander on July 10, 2014, 07:35:35 pm
Cachia got suspended for a week after the Collingwood game. He'll be back next week and must be a chance.
I was a bit surprised that Ellard got in, as he was not one of those who stood out last week.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: crashlander on July 10, 2014, 07:38:44 pm
SYDNEY v CARLTON
SCG, Saturday July 12, 7.40pm

SYDNEY
B Dane Rampe, Ted Richards, Nick Smith
HB Jeremy Laidler, Heath Grundy, Jarrad McVeigh
C Nick Malceski, Josh Kennedy, Harry Cunningham
HF Luke Parker, Sam Reid, Lewis Jetta
F Adam Goodes, Lance Franklin, Ben McGlynn
FOLL Mike Pyke, Kieren Jack, Craig Bird
I/C Brandon Jack, Jake Lloyd, Gary Rohan, Dean Towers
EMG Tom Derickx, George Hewett, Tim Membrey
IN Dean Towers
OUT Zak Jones (Achilles)

CARLTON
B Simon White, Michael Jamison, Sam Rowe
HB Andrejs Everitt, Andrew Walker, Kade Simpson
C Tom Bell, Chris Judd, Chris Yarran
HF Bryce Gibbs, Levi Casboult, Blaine Johnson
F Brock McLean, Lachie Henderson, Dale Thomas
FOLL Robert Warnock, Ed Curnow, Marc Murphy
I/C Sam Docherty, David Ellard, Zach Tuohy, Nick Graham
EMG Dennis Armfield, Jeff Garlett, Matthew Watson
IN David Ellard, Nick Graham
OUT Andrew Carrazzo (Quad), Troy Menzel (Shoulder)


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/2014-round-17-afl-teams-20140710-3bq47.html#ixzz373aYZEST
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: Rational_Expectations on July 10, 2014, 07:43:18 pm
That answers the question on whether Johnson will be the sub.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: Blue_MM on July 10, 2014, 07:46:57 pm
What's the bet Graham gets the vest?
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: PaulP on July 10, 2014, 07:47:08 pm
We will get yet another touch up from a team that knows and has what it takes, COLA or no COLA.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: ItsOurTime on July 10, 2014, 07:48:27 pm
I reckon we'll go okay.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: cookie2 on July 10, 2014, 07:50:51 pm
What's the bet Graham gets the vest?

And Ellard will be subbed - or vice versa.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: Blue_MM on July 10, 2014, 07:55:08 pm
Just a straying thought (probably a pretty crazy one), but what do we reckon about Touhy being the starting sub? He can play a variety of positions, is very quick, makes pretty good decisions under pressure, can very well be an impact player, etc.

I mean, i love the guy and want to see him running around all game; but I think he could be an effective sub.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on July 10, 2014, 08:02:11 pm
Mick has given us the message dont worry about the results and be patient, he says Swans have the best list ever...there are two excuses he can use after the game and I am not expecting to win and Mick has primed the supporters for a loss. Menzel is a big loss as he takes heat off Casboult and Henderson and I reckon Buddy will tear us apart...

Ellard is a battler and Graham a newbie who will find those big bodied Swans mids hard to tackle and even harder when they tackle him....Mick has given us the message dont worry about the results.....I reckon anything less than a 5 goal loss will be seen as a reasonable result..
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: denimundies on July 10, 2014, 09:07:05 pm
For me I'm a little flat, nothing left to play for so early in the season, another shellacking a big possibility. Only thing to look forward to is blokes like Yazz, Cas and the Menz.

and the draft order  :)
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: blue4life on July 10, 2014, 09:17:55 pm
No chance this week, any that we had evaporated when Carratts ans Menzel were ruled out.
I'll be happy if we get within 5 or 6 goals but I doubt that we will.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: Thryleon on July 10, 2014, 11:39:04 pm
I can see us winning this one actually.  Don't ask me why, it's not logical, it just matches the rampant schizophrenia that follows our football club.

We will give it a shake anyway.  not that it matters.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: emtwenty on July 11, 2014, 12:37:58 am
We've lost our leading goal kicker and I can't see Lachie, Levi and White having their way with the Swans' back line. I can't see us kicking a good enough score. Especially with no real small forward.

Jeffy is emergency. I'd play him. The team is pretty slow.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: Juddkreuzer on July 11, 2014, 12:51:20 am
I can see us winning this one actually.  Don't ask me why, it's not logical, it just matches the rampant schizophrenia that follows our football club.

We will give it a shake anyway.  not that it matters.

If we win I shall eat my scarf for dinner without holding anyone accountable.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: DJC on July 11, 2014, 12:53:12 am
After listening to Malthouse explain what is expected of Waite and Garlett before they can expect a recall, Watson is named as an emergency  ::)  What did he do to deserve a spot in our best available 25 and who in the Swans could he play on?

Wouldn't it be refreshing if our coach actually explained what he was planning?

I can understand the lack of pre-game discussion; we're on a hiding to nothing, our list is apparently crape but we won't try youngsters, and we're all hoping that the boys will play out of their skins and we'll jag a win.

Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: JonHenry on July 11, 2014, 04:43:32 am
After listening to Malthouse explain what is expected of Waite and Garlett before they can expect a recall, Watson is named as an emergency  ::)  What did he do to deserve a spot in our best available 25 and who in the Swans could he play on?

Wouldn't it be refreshing if our coach actually explained what he was planning?

I can understand the lack of pre-game discussion; we're on a hiding to nothing, our list is apparently crape but we won't try youngsters, and we're all hoping that the boys will play out of their skins and we'll jag a win.

How many other coaches outline what they are planning?
He has sent a message to Waite and Garlett and rightly so. If he's any more depth I am sure a few others would receive a similar rocket.

It's not a social welfare group, we need to toughen a few sooks up
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on July 11, 2014, 05:49:37 am
Nah he's a hypocrite. He applies double standards to almost everything.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: JonHenry on July 11, 2014, 06:04:39 am
Nah he's a hypocrite. He applies double standards to almost everything.

If he is, and he flushes out some weak players I don't care. The club has been held to ransom by soft, crap players, with inflated opinions of their value for 13 years. Do you really think Clarkson is a super star coach or does he have great players with the right attitude at his disposal?
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on July 11, 2014, 06:41:48 am
I think it's a mix of both but I have no doubt whatsoever that the message from Clarkson remains consistent, no matter who or what he's dealing with, whether it be in the media or behind closed doors. Double standards simply do not work, never have and never will.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: LP on July 11, 2014, 12:13:09 pm
With the way we have been playing, assuming we keep it up, the team we have selected, and the way the Swans play, this game if it is in a bit of rain could break the AFL tackle count!  ;)

Does anyone know what the record is, I think it was Port and Ninthmond?

It will be interesting to see how we go against them in the absence of Mumford, also in the absence of Kreuzer who usually does well playing the Swans.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: denimundies on July 11, 2014, 01:43:08 pm
I can see us winning this one actually.

Stop stressing me out Thry  :)
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: denimundies on July 11, 2014, 01:45:29 pm
I can see us winning this one actually.  Don't ask me why, it's not logical, it just matches the rampant schizophrenia that follows our football club.

We will give it a shake anyway.  not that it matters.

If we win I shall eat my scarf for dinner without holding anyone accountable.

If we win it ill be extremely disappointing, this is a must lose game - non intentional but in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: raven on July 11, 2014, 01:53:34 pm
@DU - lose, not loose mate.

As in 'Brazil's defence was loose to non existent.'   :P

Back on topic, we will probably lose by 5-6 goals, with us playing 'ok' and the Swans relaxing & playing below their usual level. Seems to be the way of late for us when up against the better sides in the comp.

Hoping its on fta here in SA, but won't be shattered if its not televised.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: denimundies on July 11, 2014, 02:03:43 pm
@DU - lose, not loose mate.

As in 'Brazil's defence was loose to non existent.'   :P

Back on topic, we will probably lose by 5-6 goals, with us playing 'ok' and the Swans relaxing & playing below their usual level. Seems to be the way of late for us when up against the better sides in the comp.

Hoping its on fta here in SA, but won't be shattered if its not televised.

your right Raven, my apologies, my Iphone likes the word loose.  :)
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: denimundies on July 11, 2014, 05:06:44 pm
Go Swans
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: Micky0 on July 12, 2014, 09:24:25 am
Go Swans
Yeah barracking for draft picks really worked well for us a decade ago, didn't it?  :-\

I would LOVE to see us win, it would make my weekend!
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: age on July 12, 2014, 09:44:03 am
Swans by 55 points
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: cookie2 on July 12, 2014, 10:53:11 am
I sniff a possible surprise in the air, put it this way, I don't think we'll get a spanking. ;)
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: Baggers on July 12, 2014, 11:03:31 am
I sniff a possible surprise in the air, put it this way, I don't think we'll get a spanking. ;)

I'm with you and 3 Leos, Fluffy Biscuit. I fully expect us to make a good account of ourselves.

Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: Rational_Expectations on July 12, 2014, 12:32:40 pm
Go Swans
Yeah barracking for draft picks really worked well for us a decade ago, didn't it?  :-\

I would LOVE to see us win, it would make my weekend!

I'm with you. High draft picks are great, but every time Carlton run out I want to see them win.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: Baggers on July 12, 2014, 04:56:24 pm
Go Swans
Yeah barracking for draft picks really worked well for us a decade ago, didn't it?  :-\

I would LOVE to see us win, it would make my weekend!

I'm with you. High draft picks are great, but every time Carlton run out I want to see them win.

Ditto.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: PaulP on July 12, 2014, 05:01:34 pm
Go Swans
Yeah barracking for draft picks really worked well for us a decade ago, didn't it?  :-\

I would LOVE to see us win, it would make my weekend!

I'm with you. High draft picks are great, but every time Carlton run out I want to see them win.

Ditto.

Double ditto. Hate tanking with a passion.
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: Jb on July 12, 2014, 06:12:23 pm
Graham sub.. How strange... >:(
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on July 12, 2014, 06:16:36 pm
Dont think Mick is big fan of Graham's yet and the lad will have to prove himself.....
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: cookie2 on July 12, 2014, 06:23:43 pm
Dont think Mick is big fan of Graham's yet and the lad will have to prove himself.....

That's fair enough too. He still has to prove himself IMO but that's a bit hard from the pine. I would have started him with Ellard as sub. Maybe Mick thinks though that may have more impact coming off the bench than Ellard?
Title: Re: Blues vs. Sydney in Sydney: Pre Match Prognostications
Post by: PassIt2Carrots on July 12, 2014, 07:38:26 pm
WTF Graham sub again? This guy is a piss taker and a half.