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Title: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 15, 2016, 10:03:44 pm
The Blues play the bottom side, Coburg, this coming round. Coburg were competitive last year, but they have been pretty ordinary this year. But have they been ordinary enough not be able to beat our bunch? These last 2 losses were among the worst in the game's history. I can't see us getting that much better: not enough talent coming back while more injuries have occurred.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: tonyo on May 15, 2016, 10:35:43 pm
One thing that is not helping the Northern Blues much this year - because we have no Friday Night games, and plenty of Sundays, there are many times when the emergencies for the ones cannot play for NBs in case there is a late withdrawal - for example, neither White or Graham could play at Willy on Saturday.

Not good for these guys who are trying to run into some form, either.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 16, 2016, 05:22:52 pm
With Kreuzer set to miss 4 weeks, the ruck question has become problematical. There is no certainty of anyone but Korchek being available as a ruckman.
Very interesting to see if there is anyone left to play for the NBs this week!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Baggers on May 17, 2016, 11:11:11 am
The player summaries in Inside Football are really good. Blunt, but right to the essence. In this week's summaries of each of our CFC listed blokes who played for the NBs IF basically said only Jaksch deserves consideration for a senior call up. (Couldn't include SOS as he's coming back from injury and learning).
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: laj on May 17, 2016, 03:59:15 pm
Buckley's out too, suspended for 2 weeks for rough conduct.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LP on May 17, 2016, 04:01:34 pm
Buckley's out too, suspended for 2 weeks for rough conduct.

So he accepted an early plea, with the bye that means he is out until June. He just keeps finding ways to stitch up his team-mates, I'm quickly losing my support for the lad.

The kid's prospects are rapidly heading south, The Sheik might be making a SB&C list adjustment very soon!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: laj on May 17, 2016, 04:04:08 pm
So he accepted an early plea, with the bye that means he is out until June. He just keeps finding ways to stitch up his team-mates, I'm quickly losing my support for the lad.

I assume he will.

Chip off the old block. Back in his old man's days though you could get away with that.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LP on May 17, 2016, 04:06:58 pm
I assume he will.

Chip off the old block. Back in his old man's days though you could get away with that.

There's a time and a place LAJ, and while you are trying to regain some form in the 2s is not the time or the place, especially given he was cited two weeks running!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crazyjoedevolamk11 on May 17, 2016, 11:14:09 pm
He'd wanna pull his finger out, DB, or he's gone, no world beater, average 5"10...hasn't set the world on fire yet, been on the list for 4 years now...gotta make every post a winner...or he's gone!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: cimm1979 on May 17, 2016, 11:32:13 pm
He'd wanna pull his finger out, DB, or he's gone, no world beater, average 5"10...hasn't set the world on fire yet, been on the list for 4 years now...gotta make every post a winner...or he's gone!

Reckon SOS might have to make an unpleasant call at the end of the year.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Baggers on May 18, 2016, 08:33:06 am
He'd wanna pull his finger out, DB, or he's gone, no world beater, average 5"10...hasn't set the world on fire yet, been on the list for 4 years now...gotta make every post a winner...or he's gone!

Sad reality. Great kid, great enthusiasm, quick... but when you're this small/slight you've gotta have some tricks. Few months to find a trick or two.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Thryleon on May 18, 2016, 09:19:57 am
I think we wont be parting ways with Dylan just yet.

He didnt earn a rising star nomination for nothing and has only clocked up 31 AFL games.

Can kick a goal and has elite pace.  Might be struggling for form or fitness, but I think there are a few that should be shed before we even look at Buckley.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: madbluboy on May 18, 2016, 09:31:11 am
Buckley's problems are between his ears and that's something that's almost impossible to fix.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: kruddler on May 18, 2016, 11:17:26 am
Buckley's problems are between his ears and that's something that's almost impossible to fix.

What hope does Casboult have then?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LP on May 18, 2016, 11:44:10 am
What hope does Casboult have then?

Casboult has one really good trick that is saving his career, what is Buckley's?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: kruddler on May 18, 2016, 11:47:45 am
Casboult has one really good trick that is saving his career, what is Buckley's?

*meep meep*
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LP on May 18, 2016, 11:54:14 am
It's a fair question, why avoid answering it?

Casboult's career is saved by his contested marking, take that away and he probably even falls in behind Jaksch and Gorringe.

For Buckley, other than being "The Son of a Gun", what is his "trick"?

What earns him a spot on an AFL match day in either the pocket or a flank ahead of Sumner, Lamb, Byrne, Tuohy, Armfield, etc., etc.? They are the players he is competing with, we can assume he is well behind players like Simpson, Murphy, E.Curnow and Docherty in pecking order, so no point listing them, so he competes for a 2nd or 3rd tier spot at the moment.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: PaulP on May 18, 2016, 12:14:39 pm
It's a fair question, why avoid answering it?

Casboult's career is saved by his contested marking, take that away and he probably even falls in behind Jaksch and Gorringe.

For Buckley, other than being "The Son of a Gun", what is his "trick"?

What earns him a spot on an AFL match day in either the pocket or a flank ahead of Sumner, Lamb, Byrne, Tuohy, Armfield, etc., etc.? They are the players he is competing with, we can assume he is well behind players like Simpson, Murphy, E.Curnow and Docherty in pecking order, so no point listing them, so he competes for a 2nd or 3rd tier spot at the moment.

I think the "meep meep" is the answer - getaway speed.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 18, 2016, 12:28:34 pm
re: Buckley...popular player  within the group and a father/son.....reckon one out of Boekhorst, Tutt and Buckley will be retained and my money would be on the father/son pick getting a reprieve...

Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Shakin77 on May 18, 2016, 12:29:40 pm
It's a fair question, why avoid answering it?

Casboult's career is saved by his contested marking, take that away and he probably even falls in behind Jaksch and Gorringe.

For Buckley, other than being "The Son of a Gun", what is his "trick"?

What earns him a spot on an AFL match day in either the pocket or a flank ahead of Sumner, Lamb, Byrne, Tuohy, Armfield, etc., etc.? They are the players he is competing with, we can assume he is well behind players like Simpson, Murphy, E.Curnow and Docherty in pecking order, so no point listing them, so he competes for a 2nd or 3rd tier spot at the moment.

Pace and pressure.    Run and carry
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LP on May 18, 2016, 12:30:45 pm
I think the "meep meep" is the answer - getaway speed.

OK then, if pace is his trick where does he sit in the pecking order versus say Byrne or Armfield from the above list?

Is Buckley's lateral movement as good as those two? Maybe equal of Armfield but I think Byrne has him covered, Byrne and Armfield certainly have him covered for tackling pressure and body on body work.

re: Buckley...popular player  within the group and a father/son.....reckon one out of Boekhorst, Tutt and Buckley will be retained and my money would be on the father/son pick getting a reprieve...

I'm of the exact same thinking and I'm very glad somebody else posted it! :D

I think you can add Smith to the list.

At the moment I think Boekhorst holds the most "potential", and that in some respect is a bit sad! :(
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: kruddler on May 18, 2016, 12:53:40 pm
It's a fair question, why avoid answering it?

As others have pointed out, it was the answer.

Maybe this helps...
(http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn284/miss_art_deity/roadrunner.gif)

Buckley has speed, dash and dare. Backs himself in against anybody.

Does that earn him a game over others? Has done.

From the other names you mentioned, i think Boeky and Byrne offer the most. But i don't think you would cut him from the list and its got nothng to do with his last name.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: PaulP on May 18, 2016, 01:29:05 pm
OK then, if pace is his trick where does he sit in the pecking order versus say Byrne or Armfield from the above list?

Is Buckley's lateral movement as good as those two? Maybe equal of Armfield but I think Byrne has him covered, Byrne and Armfield certainly have him covered for tackling pressure and body on body work.

I'm of the exact same thinking and I'm very glad somebody else posted it! :D

I think you can add Smith to the list.

At the moment I think Boekhorst holds the most "potential", and that in some respect is a bit sad! :(

I haven't seen enough of him to form a sensible opinion. I think he looks a little lost at times, as if unsure of what he should be doing, and where he should be. I think he is a perfect student for someone like Bolts, and if Bolts can't get this aspect to improve, then I'm not sure anyone can.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LP on May 18, 2016, 01:41:51 pm
Buckley has speed, dash and dare. Backs himself in against anybody.

Does that earn him a game over others? Has done.

From the other names you mentioned, i think Boeky and Byrne offer the most. But i don't think you would cut him from the list and its got nothng to do with his last name.

I think a list can only have a couple of that type, and then it becomes a question of what else do they bring? Most of the others in that list have some "else".

Like EB1, I think spots will be limited and will get even harder to win if Sheehan gets himself fit.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Thryleon on May 18, 2016, 05:06:10 pm
Again who survives on our list at the end of the season will have more to do with what is available to come in, vs what we have to part with to get the appropriate draft picks (and free up list spots) to get our targets from the draft.

At the moment, we are on track to finish somewhere between 10th and 16th.

Ive done the ladder predictor and we will finish roughly 8-11 wins depending on form and fitness of both us and our opposition.  Best case 10th, worst case 16th (losing some we dont expect to). 

That means a draft pick between 3-9 and 20-26 before free agency changes the order.

If we decide our draft targets will be there for these picks, then it wont matter, as the decision will be Dylan Buckely, or pick 50 something odd, and I would have money on Buckley surviving that choice.  Id say the club is more likely to trade something else to get us back another shot at a second rounder, in which case it all depends on how many selections we can get in the first round vs how many spots we have to free up on our senior list, vs which other players get the chop ahead of him.


This is what we did last year, and this is what I anticipate SOS will aim to do this year.  It maybe that the draft is full of the sort of players we decide we dont need much of, and we might decide to trade for future picks rather than current picks. 

Any of our players futures are not set in stone.  It all depends on what happens at the draft table, and free agency accordingly.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: cimm1979 on May 18, 2016, 05:24:19 pm
Bucks isn't in the best 25 this year and will probably slip further next year.

Pity, I like the kid. I honestly think he's better suited to a midfield role, but I don't think it will happen.

Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Pratty on May 19, 2016, 11:41:43 am
I'd be keeping the like of Boekhorst and Buckley on the list for sure in 2017.

Tutt can go along with guys like Dick and Whiley.

Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: kruddler on May 19, 2016, 07:52:18 pm
I'd be keeping the like of Boekhorst and Buckley on the list for sure in 2017.

Tutt can go along with guys like Dick and Whiley.
Agreed.

DVR on the chopping block as well unless he lifts.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 19, 2016, 09:56:11 pm
Northern Blues vs Coburg Lions
 Sunday 22nd May, 2016
 Preston City Oval at 2.00pm      

Northern Blues

B: 22. D Aujla 31. J Foster 26. M Dick
HB: 47. C Sheehan 34. J Glass-Mccasker 38. B Gowers
C: 65. D Viojo 42. M Whiley 76. J Tutt
HF: 23. H Kerbatieh 48. K Jaksch 51. B Boekhorst
F: 67. C Smith 2. J Silvagni 1. T Wilson
R: 36. C Wood 32. N Graham 60. D Cuningham
Int: 10. T Totevski 35. K Declase 45. D Stevens 12. Z Ballard 80. M Korcheck 6. G Strachan 8. B Bransgrove 37. T Jones
  
23P: 53. M Perry
    

Coburg Lions

B: 21. R Lehmann 27. K Staples 62. L Ryan
HB: 33. N Linton 9. N Blair 19. M Mattingly
C: 7. L Johns 26. L Hunt 32. R Schraven
HF: 17. D Hill 16. L Featherstone 1. B Allan
F: 5. J Cauchi 12. P McEvoy 10. D Younan
R: 9. T Goodwin 8. O Uysal 3. N Thomas
Int: 18. M Merlo 37. K Posar 44. J Madden 6. M Orr 42. J Kalanj 49. T McConville 41. M Kovacevic 15. J Iacobaccio
  
23P: 14. M Ercolano
 
If everyone plays, we look a LOT better. But there is little chance of everyone playing.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 19, 2016, 10:03:34 pm
Northern Blues vs Coburg Lions             
Sunday 22nd May, 2016
Preston City Oval at 11.00am

Northern Blues

B: 78. M Walson 50. B Jordan 58. M Vesnaver
HB: 6. G Strachan 35. K Declase 54. C McCabe
C: 21. C Barrett 25. A Brown 5. J Cyster
HF: 41. J Cripps 70. S Peet 10. T Totevski
F: 45. D Stevens 30. S Bolger 37. T Jones
R: 80. M Korcheck 12. Z Ballard 24. T Roos
Int: 82. D Iermano 9. J Corboy 74. B Malual 75. C Le Favi 72. M Reyment 77. L Hickey 13. C Adams 66. M Dawson 52. J Booth
55. W Krithararis 64. L Jacques 16. J Thorpe
 


 Coburg Lions

B: 34. S Gregory 22. S Caven 13. M Stillman
HB: 20. N Robortella 38. J Clarke 37. K Posar
C: 15. J Iacobaccio 18. M Merlo 30. J James
HF: 42. J Kalanj 44. J Madden 53. A Valeri
F: 45. R Bamblett 41. M Kovacevic 43. T Sutherland
R: 6. M Orr 11. G McDonagh 49. T McConville
Int: 40. J Flower 57. J Muscatello 35. C Holdsworth 24. Z Wunhym 50. C Urquhart 55. G Romios 48. C Dalgleish 46. R Free 51. J Corigliano 60. J Tegart 31. J Hickey 63. M King
 
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Mick on May 21, 2016, 12:35:57 pm
With Kieran Collins debuting this week I hope Cuningham shows something.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LP on May 21, 2016, 01:01:47 pm
With Kieran Collins debuting this week I hope Cuningham shows something.

Yes, I agree, and especially given our current injury concerns Collins would have been a mighty option to have allowing us to throw White, Rowe or Weitering forward. Of course we do have C.Curnow and McKay sidelined, and they both look the goods long term.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: cimm1979 on May 21, 2016, 01:48:13 pm
With Kieran Collins debuting this week I hope Cuningham shows something.

You may have to wait a while.

Collins looks like a fit 40 year old, Cunningham looks 15.

I wouldn't be too worried about these kids getting long spells in the magoos (might not see him till next year) before getting called up. Happens at quite a few clubs.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Sexybronco on May 21, 2016, 05:39:36 pm
You may have to wait a while.

Collins looks like a fit 40 year old, Cunningham looks 15.

I wouldn't be too worried about these kids getting long spells in the magoos (might not see him till next year) before getting called up. Happens at quite a few clubs.
Excuse my ignorance but who is Kieren Collins?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LP on May 21, 2016, 05:47:14 pm
Bransgrove pulls the pin this weekend.

Thanks for 100 great games, injuries have left him with little to give but a massive heart and he'd happily offer whatever he has left, over and over again. If only some of the AFL list had his heart.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 21, 2016, 05:53:21 pm
Excuse my ignorance but who is Kieren Collins?

Highly rated U18 Fullback from the last draft, played with Jacob Weitering and many thought we should have selected him(including me)....think a young Brian Lake in terms of strength and marking ability.
Only Con was/is leg speed and maybe at 193cm he might lack a couple cm when playing on the taller Full Forwards..
Did ok in the NAB cup but has got his opportunity due to the injuries out at Doggie land.......
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Baggers on May 21, 2016, 07:18:15 pm
Northern Blues vs Coburg Lions
 Sunday 22nd May, 2016
 Preston City Oval at 2.00pm      

Northern Blues

B: 22. D Aujla 31. J Foster 26. M Dick
HB: 47. C Sheehan 34. J Glass-Mccasker 38. B Gowers
C: 65. D Viojo 42. M Whiley 76. J Tutt
HF: 23. H Kerbatieh 48. K Jaksch 51. B Boekhorst
F: 67. C Smith 2. J Silvagni 1. T Wilson
R: 36. C Wood 32. N Graham 60. D Cuningham
Int: 10. T Totevski 35. K Declase 45. D Stevens 12. Z Ballard 80. M Korcheck 6. G Strachan 8. B Bransgrove 37. T Jones
  
23P: 53. M Perry
    

Coburg Lions

B: 21. R Lehmann 27. K Staples 62. L Ryan
HB: 33. N Linton 9. N Blair 19. M Mattingly
C: 7. L Johns 26. L Hunt 32. R Schraven
HF: 17. D Hill 16. L Featherstone 1. B Allan
F: 5. J Cauchi 12. P McEvoy 10. D Younan
R: 9. T Goodwin 8. O Uysal 3. N Thomas
Int: 18. M Merlo 37. K Posar 44. J Madden 6. M Orr 42. J Kalanj 49. T McConville 41. M Kovacevic 15. J Iacobaccio
  
23P: 14. M Ercolano
 
If everyone plays, we look a LOT better. But there is little chance of everyone playing.

On paper that's a pretty reasonable side... looking forward to seeing how we do. Anyone else heading to Preston tomorrow?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 21, 2016, 10:06:51 pm
Well, our performance tonight does leave the door open for a few guys if they put up their hands tomorrow. Wood, Jaksch, Boekhorst and the like can see that there are spots of they can produce. Can they?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 21, 2016, 10:09:35 pm
Well, our performance tonight does leave the door open for a few guys if they put up their hands tomorrow. Wood, Jaksch, Boekhorst and the like can see that there are spots of they can produce. Can they?

Reckon Wood has to play next week and you would have to think about Jaksch given Everitts lack of effort tonight...
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: cimm1979 on May 22, 2016, 04:40:37 am
We got to see Gorringe and a ruckman he is not.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: pinot on May 22, 2016, 08:55:32 am
DVR, Graham, Jaksch, Boekhorst, Wood need to shine,

1AW in trainwreck mode needs to be dropped
White - good warrior but rested and gave little
Lamb - worst game of the year looked tired though - won't drop
Rowe - worst game of the year - won't drop

1AW and White should be dropped though to find form in VFL.

Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 12:49:22 pm
Action aplenty at Preston City Oval, in the 3rd quarter of the Development Game.
Blues 55
Coburg 64

Half time stats:
GOALS: Corboy, Cripps, Iermano, Jacques, Brown.
DISPOSALS: Roos 16, Barrett 11, Declase 10, Krithararis 9, Strachan 8.
This is a little out of date, but I am working on it.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 12:54:17 pm
3/4 time:
NB 8 - 9 - 57
Coburg 10 - 6 - 66

Good kicking wins matches. Hopefully this quarter we can see some from the Blues.

GOALS: Corboy 2, Cripps, Iermano, Jacques, Brown, Roos, Malual

I wouldn't mind seeing Cripps get a bit more of the ball, but.....

DISPOSALS: Roos 24, Barrett 15, Krithararis 15, Declase 13, Hickey 12.

Looks to be Tyler Roos best game in Blue by quite a long way.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 01:35:09 pm
FULL TIME: Northern Blues 10.13.79, Coburg 12.7.79.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: cimm1979 on May 22, 2016, 01:36:54 pm
FULL TIME: Northern Blues 10.13.79, Coburg 12.7.79.

its 73-79
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 01:41:55 pm
its 73-79
Yes it is: I hadn't noticed that twitter can't count. :( We lost by a goal.
GOALS: Corboy 2, Jacques 2, Bolger, Brown, Cripps, Iermano, Malual, Roos
DISPOSALS: Roos 33, Cyster 18, Krithararis 18, Barrett 17, Stevens 17, Strachan 17.

Tyler Roos played his best game as a Blue, but there wasn't much else for a midfield. Does this remind you of a problem elsewhere?

Well, now comes the time for the main game, and it could be interesting. Very interested to see who lines up.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 01:59:58 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjCBYTwVAAAgDTX.png:large)
Our line-up doesn't look TOO different to what was named: what a surprise! Tom Wilson didn't come up, but look at the Carlton lads playing! :)
Now they have to put in and perform!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 02:06:30 pm
Not an inspiring start: 2 frees and a Coburg goal, but Boekhorst kicks one from 55 to make some amends.

Northern Blues 1 - 2 - 8
Coburg 2 - 0 - 12
Chances were there, but we couldn't take them.
Goal to Kristian Jaksch after good work by Whiley.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 02:17:23 pm
Well, Korchek showed he is learning: good mark and probably his best kick for goal yet. Just what we need!
Nick Graham converts with a more difficult shot than his miss. Getting the ball out of the centre: something in that, maybe.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 02:23:39 pm
Silvagni out marks 2 defenders and delivers the goods. :)
Nock Graham showing he wants to play seniors next week.

We must have the breeze, but we appear to be using it for a change.

Northern 5 - 2 - 32
Coburg 2 - 0 - 12
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 02:27:57 pm
Poster for Kerbatieh: damn!
Northern 5 - 3 - 33
Coburg 2 - 1 - 13
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 02:36:35 pm
Quarter Time and our best effort with the breeze for the year: not that that is saying much.

Northern Blues 5 - 3 - 33
Coburg 2 - 2 - 14

GOALS: Boekhorst, Graham, Jaksch, Korcheck, Silvagni.

DISPOSALS: Graham 9, Tutt 9, Foster 7, Gowers 5, Boekhorst 4.

That Foster has 7 possessions is a real positive. Tutt has turned some of his over, but Graham definitely wants back in the seniors.

Stated again and Totevski marks against the breeze, but misses.

Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 02:46:37 pm
Silvagni making an impact: an intercept mark leads to his 2nd goal.
Featherstone of Coburg also got one.

Northern Blues 6 - 5 - 41
Coburg 3 - 2 - 20

Ther are comments going around about blooding Silvagni: too early, or is he doing enough? Too early for my thinking, but...

Silvagni now has 3, with an excellent shot from the deep in the pocket against the breeze.

Coburg get one back. Make that 2 in a minute. :(
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: laj on May 22, 2016, 03:04:23 pm
Silvagni making an impact: an intercept mark leads to his 2nd goal.
Featherstone of Coburg also got one.

Northern Blues 6 - 5 - 41
Coburg 3 - 2 - 20

Ther are comments going around about blooding Silvagni: too early, or is he doing enough? Too early for my thinking, but...

Silvagni now has 3, with an excellent shot from the deep in the pocket against the breeze.

Coburg get one back. Make that 2 in a minute. :(

If he's performing in the VFL then he's ready to come in late any draftee. In for Walker.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 03:07:50 pm
Nick Graham kicks his 2nd this time: he had a chance a little earlier from close range, but put it over the post. Not this time.
20 disposals and 7 marks for  Graham so far.
But, alas, the response comes quickly through a free in the middle. And another with the wind. Now 10 points the difference.

Northern Blues 8 - 7 - 55
Coburg 7 - 3 - 45
 Kicking straight makes a difference! I wish it could be us that does it.

Whoever gets it out of the middle is scoring: this time it is Tutt. :)
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 03:13:24 pm
Half time and the Blues have a lead:
Northern Blues 9 - 7 - 61
Coburg 7 - 4 - 46

GOALS: Silvagni 3, Graham 2, Boekhorst, Jaksch, Korcheck, Tutt.

DISPOSALS: Graham 21, Tutt 21, Jones 14, Foster 13, Aujla 10.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LoveNavy on May 22, 2016, 03:17:36 pm
Good start for NB's.
Is that the big MK's first goal?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 03:21:42 pm
Good start for NB's.
Is that the big MK's first goal?
Indeed it is. And the guys let him know it.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 03:26:13 pm
Only 6 disposals for Silvagni, but 3 goals and a couple of impressive grabs.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 03:31:42 pm
3rd term underway. Tutt gets an early one with the breeze.

Jaksch get one as well, but Boekhorst is off with injury: a wrist.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 03:37:03 pm
Big biffo in the middle after Graham made a big tackle. Not sure there was much in it.

Free to Graham, and Tutt gets a goal as a result.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 03:45:55 pm
Goal to Gowers from a LONG way out.
Northern Blues 13 - 8 - 86
Coburg 7 - 6 - 48

Damn: they reply before I can finish typing.
Northern Blues 13 - 8 - 86
Coburg 8 - 6 - 54

Featherstone has 4 goals now, and Coburg come back by another goal.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 03:52:00 pm
Goal to Nick Graham. Lead back to 32 points.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LoveNavy on May 22, 2016, 04:02:13 pm
The commentary is fantastic. Thanks crash. I'm excited waiting for the next post....
Go NB's.
Hope Boeky's injury isn't serious.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 04:04:19 pm
3/4 time and the Blues have a 32 point lead.
Northern Blues 14 - 9 - 93
Coburg 9 - 6 - 60

I put it bluntly, but if Graham wasn't out there, we would not be in front.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 04:06:03 pm
The commentary is fantastic. Thanks crash. I'm excited waiting for the next post....
Go NB's.
Hope Boeky's injury isn't serious.
Thanks. I wait with baited breath for Twitter to provide. Wish I was there instead of being on crutches going nowhere. But.....

Boekhorst: off for X-Rays. No idea how bad things are.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 04:08:55 pm
3/4 time stats are interesting:

GOALS: Tutt 3, Graham 3, Silvagni 3, Jaksch 2, Boekhorst, Gowers, Korcheck.

DISPOSALS: Tutt 29, Graham 25, Jones 22, Foster 17, Smith 16.

Tutt had a huge quarter. Graham didn't do as much, but kicked goals. Foster and Smith are good names to see on the list, but there are still a LOT of guys who aren't doing very much.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LoveNavy on May 22, 2016, 04:13:10 pm
Thanks. I wait with baited breath for Twitter to provide. Wish I was there instead of being on crutches going nowhere. But.....

Boekhorst: off for X-Rays. No idea how bad things are.

Much appreciated just the same. I don't follow twitter.
I hope you have a speedy recovery and get along to support the NB's in person real soon.
Alas, I watch from a distance and really appreciate those in the know, sharing it.
Go Blues
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 04:14:21 pm
Last quarter underway and Coburg goals early.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 04:17:35 pm
Goal to Jaksch: goal assist from Graham. Just what was needed.
Unfortunately he can't repeat it: across the face for a point. Still, 2 quick shots.
Make that 3 shots, and another goal! :) Having a good few minutes is K. Jaksch.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: laj on May 22, 2016, 04:20:57 pm
Goal to Jaksch: goal assist from Graham. Just what was needed.
Unfortunately he can't repeat it: across the face for a point. Still, 2 quick shots.
Make that 3 shots, and another goal! :) Having a good few minutes is K. Jaksch.

Then nails another right after for his 4th.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Mondy on May 22, 2016, 04:22:13 pm
KJ putting pressure on the match committee.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LoveNavy on May 22, 2016, 04:25:41 pm
Sounds like we might have a healthy dose of pressure for senior spots. Graham, Tutt, KJ, and maybe Gower's starting to shine.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 04:26:31 pm
Coburg replay: 32 point differential.

Can't be a lot happening, as there isn't much in the way of posts coming through from Twitter. Hopefully more positive news soon.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 04:32:11 pm
Sounds like we might have a healthy dose of pressure for senior spots. Graham, Tutt, KJ, and maybe Gower's starting to shine.
We have a few guys doing REALLY well, but we have others who couldn't get a possession to save their lives.
Good that Tutt, Jakch and Graham have done the right thing.

Whiley has had a pretty quiet day, but he has done some really good negative stuff. A good smother tweeted just now.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 04:34:45 pm
Not sure how much game time Box Bransgrove has had, but he is on now and hoping to finish off with a bang.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 04:35:43 pm
Featherstone get a 5th, but it looks too late for Coburg.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Jeffy38 on May 22, 2016, 04:36:26 pm
We have a few guys doing REALLY well, but we have others who couldn't get a possession to save their lives.
Good that Tutt, Jakch and Graham have done the right thing.

Whiley has had a pretty quiet day, but he has done some really good negative stuff. A good smother tweeted just now.

I tho k we are playing the bottom tea, though - big step up to Geelong at Etihad. Kj a cert for next week I would have thought, let's see how he goes
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 04:37:45 pm
Another Coburg goal. Not what we want.
Another goal: back to 11 points.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: laj on May 22, 2016, 04:41:07 pm
Another Coburg goal. Not what we want.
Another goal: back to 11 points.
And that's what we win by.

They had the last 8 scoring shots, 4.4. Not a great finish although they were kicking with the wind. Still, after a couple of 140pt losses a win is a win.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: pinot on May 22, 2016, 04:41:20 pm
Good to hear the young lads won the game - no SOS no Northern Blues :)
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: laj on May 22, 2016, 04:43:55 pm
I tho k we are playing the bottom tea, though - big step up to Geelong at Etihad. Kj a cert for next week I would have thought, let's see how he goes

He's been pretty good all year. Got 3 against the Geelong reserves. We need blokes who can take a grab now Casboult is out.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LoveNavy on May 22, 2016, 04:45:35 pm
Congratulations to the NB's.
Now that big MK knows where the goals are, let's hope he can sneak 1or2 in each week  ^-^.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 04:46:36 pm
It is all over and the Bay Blues have returned to the winners list.

Not the best way to finish the quarter with opposition goals, but, in the end, the result was what was required.
Silvagni had a big half, but looks to be a future player.
Graham and Tutt did all they could to get a game, but nit a lot of other Blues did much. Considering that Graham and Tutt had more than 60 possessions between them, the rest of our midfield was barely there.
Our forwards had a reasonable result, with Jaksch getting 4, but there is still a lot of improvement required.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: pinot on May 22, 2016, 04:50:37 pm
Looks happy and beefed up a little must get a run

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CjCqpNyUkAEpNhS.jpg)
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 04:51:58 pm
Northern Blues 16 - 10 - 104
Coburg 14 - 11 - 95

Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: laj on May 22, 2016, 04:56:44 pm
Jaksch has 12 goals this year including games of 3, 3 and 4. That's includes playing time, and entire games, in defence.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Mondy on May 22, 2016, 05:52:14 pm
Jaksch has 12 goals this year including games of 3, 3 and 4. That's includes playing time, and entire games, in defence.

Yeah, I think it's time to throw the die and play him.  I'd bring him in for Walker who competed well last night but has definitely lost a yard.  But that's the only change I'd be making.  I know Nicky G is loved here but I don't believe we have many passengers in our midfielders.  If you were to bring him in it would probably to replace Army.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Mondy on May 22, 2016, 06:01:10 pm
Or drop White for Jaksch.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: cimm1979 on May 22, 2016, 06:03:23 pm
Yeah, I think it's time to throw the die and play him.  I'd bring him in for Walker who competed well last night but has definitely lost a yard.  But that's the only change I'd be making.  I know Nicky G is loved here but I don't believe we have many passengers in our midfielders.  If you were to bring him in it would probably to replace Army.

Graham doesn't play the same roles as army .
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Mondy on May 22, 2016, 06:07:15 pm
Graham doesn't play the same roles as army .

I agree but the players who do play his role you wouldn't be dropping.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 06:10:13 pm
AFL Victoria Development League
Northern Blues   2.6  5.7  8.9  10.13 (73)
Coburg   3.1  9.3  10.6  12.7 (79)

GOALS:
Northern Blues: Corboy 2 Jacques 2 Brown  Vesnaver  Malual  Bolger  Cripps  Roos
Coburg: Urquhart 3 Corigliano  King  Wunhym  Sutherland  Free  Madden  Hickey  McDonagh  Holdsworth

BEST:
Northern Blues: Jordan Roos Vesnaver Barrett Bolger Declase
Coburg: McConville Clarke Corigliano Valeri Urquhart Robortella
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 22, 2016, 06:14:03 pm
I'd rest Cripps and play Graham this week.......odds are its another belting anyway, Cripps isnt right and needs a break.
Graham is probably too good for two's footy and needs some senior footy as one of the main cogs to show his worth for the future....give him Selwood and tell him to learn the trade...


Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 06:23:41 pm
Peter Jackson VFL 2016
Northern Blues   5.3  9.7  14.9  16.10 (106)
Coburg    2.2  7.4  9.6  14.11 (95)

GOALS:
Northern Blues: Jaksch 4 Silvagni 3 Tutt 3 Graham 3 Gowers  Boekhorst  Korcheck
Coburg : Featherstone 5 Younan 3 Ercolano 2 McEvoy  Hunt  Thomas  Hill

BEST:
Northern Blues: Tutt Gowers Graham Jaksch Foster Totevski
Coburg : Featherstone Thomas Schraven Goodwin Mattingly Younan

DISPOSALS: Tutt 37, Graham 32, Jones 24, Aujla 24, Smith 20, Foster 18, Jaksch 17.

Interesting that Smith had 20 possessions: it is, I think, the first time this has happened. I don't know how effective he was, but he will make the highlight disc with a couple of tackles and smothers. I am very pleased that he was in the play and effective enough to get 20 possessions.
Jaksch wasn't huge for 3 quarters, but he did have a very good last quarter. And he does have a strong mark and kick. he must have done enough to give the selectors the option of playing him. Of that I am happy.
Foster getting 18 possessions in defence was also a big positive.

That Cunningham, DVR and others could not make that sort of contribution was a big disappointment. DVR and Dick seem to have dropped off over the last few weeks.

I wonder how Wood went? If he did nothing, then bringing him back next week won't help us a lot. Granted that we got pounded in the ruck, we cannot put in someone who isn't doing to do the job.
Tutt couldn't have done more than he did. He has his issues, but if he doesn't get in after this game, then he never will.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: blue4life on May 22, 2016, 06:51:48 pm
Graham doesn't play the same roles as army .

And he's not as quick, but he's a better footballer.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: cimm1979 on May 22, 2016, 06:59:31 pm
I agree but the players who do play his role you wouldn't be dropping.

You realise this makes no sense?

...and, as an aside, Army has been very good . Quiet last night though.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: cimm1979 on May 22, 2016, 07:01:43 pm
And he's not as quick, but he's a better footballer.

No he's not.

He (Graham) may be a better VFL footballer because he plays midfield.

In the big show Graham doesn't have the tools to play any position.

Army has a few things that make him a handy defensive forward.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Vivian on May 22, 2016, 07:08:17 pm
No he's not.

He (Graham) may be a better VFL footballer because he plays midfield.

In the big show Graham doesn't have the tools to play any position.

Army has a few things that make him a handy defensive forward.

Agree with this. Graham is a solid footballer and at VFL level will perform well. But to succeed at league level requires some standout attribute. Armfield has a decent turn of pace that makes up for his other limitations. Graham lacks a trick that means his time on the senior list is likely limited. He isn't tall, nor that pacy. His decision making and footskills are ok, but not enough to make up the difference.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: pinot on May 22, 2016, 07:21:39 pm
He needs to start winning clearances and some goal assists.. his tackling is good, his scrapping is good enough last year before he got injured then lost form early part of this year.

But if he starts to scrap well in AFL, win some clearances, tackle well and some goal assists he will play many games.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: laj on May 22, 2016, 08:10:59 pm
Agree with this. Graham is a solid footballer and at VFL level will perform well. But to succeed at league level requires some standout attribute. Armfield has a decent turn of pace that makes up for his other limitations. Graham lacks a trick that means his time on the senior list is likely limited. He isn't tall, nor that pacy. His decision making and footskills are ok, but not enough to make up the difference.

Either way, those types are always good to have around.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: blue4life on May 22, 2016, 08:33:38 pm
Army has a few things that make him a handy defensive forward.

Kicking goals not being one of them, like the majority of our forward line.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Baggers on May 22, 2016, 08:39:13 pm
Greetings fellow CSCers.

Any positives I communicate should be tempered by the fact that we played the bottom side... and we really did not look much better. In fact, had the game gone another 5 minutes I reckon Coburg could have snatched it.

The standouts for me were Tutt and Graham. Without those two I reckon there would have been a very real chance of us losing.

Graham set the tone early with very strong, positive and influential play. He really did take the game on and bring the rest of the boys with him. He faded late but was a standout and would be stiff to not be seriously considered for senior selection. His game was good in all aspects.

Tutt was out on his own a lot and was everywhere. He was BOG by a mile (next best being Graham). One of the much better games I've seen him play with disposal skills good though he still has that bloody awful habit of just throwing it on his boot from time to time.

SOSOS is class. Looked very dangerous in the first half but was exhausted by the end of the game. Virtually unsighted in the second half.

Dick was okay but not his usual enthusiastic, solid self.

Foster was serviceable.

On today's performance from Cameron Wood not sure he's stated a strong case for senior selection. Serviceable only. The question of he or Gorringe can be best answered by...'gee I hope Phillips is over his hamstring injury!'

McCasker showed glimpses and I like his confidence to run when he's got possession... soooooo much to learn but there were encouraging signs today.

Really like Billy Gower's game today. Run, dash, hard at it though he was caught once 'a la Bell' - you know, the completely unaware run where you get caught and pinged... he did that once, but otherwise, he was good.

I still reckon Whiley's brain is a half second too slow for our game – slow decisions and wrong decisions dominate. Brave, hard at it but has the knack of putting in loads of effort and having FA to show for it... a little like Smith.

Great to see Gus Sheehan back and he was good. Disposal by foot showed a few others how it's done. Did some very encouraging things but tired and had an ice pack on his calf at the end. Hope it was just precautionary. Gotta hunch that after a couple more games he'll be pressing for senior selection.

Jaksch took some very impressive marks up forward. Got a couple of lucky goals being on the end of very good up field work (particularly from Tutt and Graham). He's really got to get some other strings to his bow. Missed a couple of easy shots so could have had 6, He's more a forward than a defender as he really doesn't provide much dash off the backline. Senior selection? 50/50.

Cuningham was disappointing. Maybe he's homesick. Showed dash on a few occasions but does not impose himself on the game. Did a pretty weave through traffic once but gee for a virtual first round draft pick he aint telling us why through his actions. His game today reminded me of the pre season game against the Dons where he was expected to be influential in the midfield but was lost.

Didn't see Boekhorst after half time or thereabouts. Was up and about in the first half and was dangerous. Worked hard. I still don't like the way he hangs back out of contests though today he did lay a few tackles but it's like he does it because he should rather than with intensity and attitude.

Rainbow was serviceable. Did some good things, but remember, the opposition was light!

Best game I've seen from Smith. Seemed to be in everything and laid the best tackle of the game... he took on a bloke twice his size and nailed him - got a free for his effort as well. Cuningham and Boekhorst could learn something from that tackle. But for all his activity there wasn't a great deal of hurt put on the opposition. He did try some offensive stuff (rather than focussing on tackling, spoiling and bumping) but looked all at sea. Funny situation as he seems to need to learn how to be offensive and creative. He backed himself in a few marking contests and showed good judgment. Maybe, just maybe, he needs more confidence to really back himself as there were glimpses of class today.

The big Yank wasn't so influential around the ground but really did some very good work at bounces and throw ins.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: cimm1979 on May 22, 2016, 09:27:15 pm
Kicking goals not being one of them, like the majority of our forward line.

And Graham hasn't this year either, plus Graham can't kick over 40 m or run or mark or spoil.

Graham is a terrific possession getter, smart user and good tackler, but he can't get the role he wants in a AFL midfield. Gibbs and Cripps have it covered.

The only role I reckon he might, just might, have a chance of taking is Kerridge, but Kerridge cover miles more territory than Graham.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: pinot on May 22, 2016, 09:32:18 pm
hes a better player than Ed Curnow I reckon and Jaksch is a better player than Jones.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: cimm1979 on May 22, 2016, 09:43:24 pm
hes a better player than Ed Curnow I reckon and Jaksch is a better player than Jones.

You think Graham is better than Curnow?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: DJC on May 22, 2016, 10:13:23 pm
hes a better player than Ed Curnow I reckon and Jaksch is a better player than Jones.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion and, 3 months ago, I would have agreed with you regarding Jaksch and Jones.  However, Jaksch has struggled to provide consistent effort while Jones, to my surprise, has shown that he is a competent AFL forward.  As for Curnow and Graham, Ed would be among the first ten players selected each week and Graham would come into consideration at around the 23rd player selected.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 22, 2016, 10:18:14 pm
Greetings fellow CSCers.

Any positives I communicate should be tempered by the fact that we played the bottom side... and we really did not look much better. In fact, had the game gone another 5 minutes I reckon Coburg could have snatched it.

The standouts for me were Tutt and Graham. Without those two I reckon there would have been a very real chance of us losing.

Graham set the tone early with very strong, positive and influential play. He really did take the game on and bring the rest of the boys with him. He faded late but was a standout and would be stiff to not be seriously considered for senior selection. His game was good in all aspects.

Tutt was out on his own a lot and was everywhere. He was BOG by a mile (next best being Graham). One of the much better games I've seen him play with disposal skills good though he still has that bloody awful habit of just throwing it on his boot from time to time.

SOSOS is class. Looked very dangerous in the first half but was exhausted by the end of the game. Virtually unsighted in the second half.

Dick was okay but not his usual enthusiastic, solid self.

Foster was serviceable.

On today's performance from Cameron Wood not sure he's stated a strong case for senior selection. Serviceable only. The question of he or Gorringe can be best answered by...'gee I hope Phillips is over his hamstring injury!'

McCasker showed glimpses and I like his confidence to run when he's got possession... soooooo much to learn but there were encouraging signs today.

Really like Billy Gower's game today. Run, dash, hard at it though he was caught once 'a la Bell' - you know, the completely unaware run where you get caught and pinged... he did that once, but otherwise, he was good.

I still reckon Whiley's brain is a half second too slow for our game – slow decisions and wrong decisions dominate. Brave, hard at it but has the knack of putting in loads of effort and having FA to show for it... a little like Smith.

Great to see Gus Sheehan back and he was good. Disposal by foot showed a few others how it's done. Did some very encouraging things but tired and had an ice pack on his calf at the end. Hope it was just precautionary. Gotta hunch that after a couple more games he'll be pressing for senior selection.

Jaksch took some very impressive marks up forward. Got a couple of lucky goals being on the end of very good up field work (particularly from Tutt and Graham). He's really got to get some other strings to his bow. Missed a couple of easy shots so could have had 6, He's more a forward than a defender as he really doesn't provide much dash off the backline. Senior selection? 50/50.

Cuningham was disappointing. Maybe he's homesick. Showed dash on a few occasions but does not impose himself on the game. Did a pretty weave through traffic once but gee for a virtual first round draft pick he aint telling us why through his actions. His game today reminded me of the pre season game against the Dons where he was expected to be influential in the midfield but was lost.

Didn't see Boekhorst after half time or thereabouts. Was up and about in the first half and was dangerous. Worked hard. I still don't like the way he hangs back out of contests though today he did lay a few tackles but it's like he does it because he should rather than with intensity and attitude.

Rainbow was serviceable. Did some good things, but remember, the opposition was light!

Best game I've seen from Smith. Seemed to be in everything and laid the best tackle of the game... he took on a bloke twice his size and nailed him - got a free for his effort as well. Cuningham and Boekhorst could learn something from that tackle. But for all his activity there wasn't a great deal of hurt put on the opposition. He did try some offensive stuff (rather than focussing on tackling, spoiling and bumping) but looked all at sea. Funny situation as he seems to need to learn how to be offensive and creative. He backed himself in a few marking contests and showed good judgment. Maybe, just maybe, he needs more confidence to really back himself as there were glimpses of class today.

The big Yank wasn't so influential around the ground but really did some very good work at bounces and throw ins.
Thanks for the review, Baggers. Always good to get 1st hand data. Trying to work things out from the stats and the twitter tweets is frustrating.

Unfortunately you haven't been able to lob any gold at our feet: but if the players only provide fish heads, then the best you can manage is fish heads!

Any ideas as to why Dick was so down today? His form until a couple of weeks ago was as good as anyone and just about worth a senior game. His last fortnight has not suggested he is going anywhere.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 22, 2016, 10:32:13 pm
hes a better player than Ed Curnow I reckon and Jaksch is a better player than Jones.

Graham has better offensive skills but thats about where it ends in the comparison....Curnow as others have suggested would be one of the first picked and is
a leader in terms of preperation, endurance and application.As dilegent a player you would find in any club and always gives you effort even when the chips are down
unlike Graham who can go missing when the heat is on in senior games..
Curnow didnt have a great night at the office last night but wasnt alone...he isnt silky but every team has their Indians who compliment the chiefs...
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Baggers on May 22, 2016, 10:36:02 pm
Thanks for the review, Baggers. Always good to get 1st hand data. Trying to work things out from the stats and the twitter tweets is frustrating.

Unfortunately you haven't been able to lob any gold at our feet: but if the players only provide fish heads, then the best you can manage is fish heads!

Any ideas as to why Dick was so down today? His form until a couple of weeks ago was as good as anyone and just about worth a senior game. His last fortnight has not suggested he is going anywhere.

Dick had heavy strapping on his thigh, reckon, as I think I mentioned recently, he's got a quad issue.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Baggers on May 22, 2016, 10:40:13 pm
hes a better player than Ed Curnow I reckon and Jaksch is a better player than Jones.

Sorry mate but comparing Curnow and Graham is unfair on both, but if we had to... and it was grand final day and I needed to pick between the two I'd take Curnow in a heartbeat.

Ditto Jones over Jaksch.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: MilkIt on May 23, 2016, 01:53:42 am
...Cuningham was disappointing. Maybe he's homesick. Showed dash on a few occasions but does not impose himself on the game. Did a pretty weave through traffic once but gee for a virtual first round draft pick he aint telling us why through his actions. His game today reminded me of the pre season game against the Dons where he was expected to be influential in the midfield but was lost...

What is going on with Cuningham? The pre-season reports sounded like he was flying. Is it nerves? Is it personal issues? Or is he just so far from being a footballer this could be the biggest drafting blunder ever?

He was team mates with Jack, so surely SOS knows something we don't.

I'm really hoping he makes it but haven't seen anything to suggest he'll even make it in the VFL. :-\
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: laj on May 23, 2016, 09:35:44 am
Sorry mate but comparing Curnow and Graham is unfair on both, but if we had to... and it was grand final day and I needed to pick between the two I'd take Curnow in a heartbeat.

Ditto Jones over Jaksch.

Not sure about Jones over Jaksch. I prefer Jaksch as he is alot better mark. Has had games of 3,3 and 4 goals and other gamesin defence like last week where he got 20 touches and 6 marks. Jones has done ok though and certainly enough to hold his place so he stays. Right now, with Casboult out, I'd play them both.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 23, 2016, 09:37:17 am
Not sure about Jones over Jaksch. I prefer Jaksch as he is alot better mark. Has had games of 3,3 and 4 goals and other gamesin defence like last week where he got 20 touches and 6 marks. Jones has done ok though and certainly enough to hold his place so he stays. Right now, with Casboult out, I'd play them both.

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Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 23, 2016, 10:18:32 am
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Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: shadesy on May 23, 2016, 11:04:18 am
What is going on with Cuningham? The pre-season reports sounded like he was flying. Is it nerves? Is it personal issues? Or is he just so far from being a footballer this could be the biggest drafting blunder ever?

He was team mates with Jack, so surely SOS knows something we don't.

I'm really hoping he makes it but haven't seen anything to suggest he'll even make it in the VFL. :-\

He is 19.
Drafted in November and behind majority of players with smaller pre-season.
Played his 3rd game of VFL footy coming off injury.
He was pick 19, outside the Top 10, so hardly rated as high as Oliver, Parish, Keays
He is 19.

Have we become that impatient as supporters?

Harry McKay hasnt played a game yet... Pick 8, not been sighted...That looks as a bigger Drafting blunder*....


*Of course the statement above is not a serious one.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LP on May 23, 2016, 11:26:13 am
Harry McKay hasnt played a game yet... Pick 8, not been sighted...That looks as a bigger Drafting blunder

Hmm, seems like it.

Oh well back to the drawing board! ::)

You never know how you will be quoted, that is word for word as you wrote it, just not all the words!

Next thing you'll be posting our plan was top 4 for 2016! :D

PS: In public social media, sarcasm, factitiousness and irony, do they exist?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: PaulP on May 23, 2016, 11:45:06 am
He is 19.
Drafted in November and behind majority of players with smaller pre-season.
Played his 3rd game of VFL footy coming off injury.
He was pick 19, outside the Top 10, so hardly rated as high as Oliver, Parish, Keays
He is 19.

Have we become that impatient as supporters?

Harry McKay hasnt played a game yet... Pick 8, not been sighted...That looks as a bigger Drafting blunder*....


*Of course the statement above is not a serious one.

I thought we were a club in a hurry.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Dominator_7 on May 23, 2016, 12:45:46 pm
Not worried about McKay, Cuningham and SOS.
Let them string some good, consistent footy together and get some confidence in their own abilities first before even considering them for senior selection.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 23, 2016, 01:01:17 pm
Cunningham is going take time and we need to be patient, he isnt very big and isnt playing with a very good NB's  team who can make life easier for him.
I'd be slipping him in for a few senior  games at seasons end along with DVR.....

Problem I see is that we have Buckley, Sumner, DVR, Boekhorst, Tutt and Cunningham who all play the same spots...you need pacy ball carriers but we might have a
slight over supply and need to get a few bigger bodies who can also cover the ground quickly....ours as a group are too lightly framed IMO .
Sumner is a keeper but I dont know about the others...
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: blue4life on May 23, 2016, 03:53:08 pm
hes a better player than Ed Curnow I reckon and Jaksch is a better player than Jones.

Curnow has him covered for aerobic capacity which is one of the main requirements for the role he plays, neither of them have better than average skills so I think Curnow gets the nod.
Jaksch wouldn't need to be much good to be better than Jones, neither of them would get a game at North or a few of the other good sides.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: blue4life on May 23, 2016, 03:58:20 pm
And Graham hasn't this year either, plus Graham can't kick over 40 m or run or mark or spoil.

Graham is a terrific possession getter, smart user and good tackler, but he can't get the role he wants in a AFL midfield. Gibbs and Cripps have it covered.

The only role I reckon he might, just might, have a chance of taking is Kerridge, but Kerridge cover miles more territory than Graham.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not pumping up Graham's tyres.
He's nothing flash but then neither is Armfield, I was hoping that Clem Smith would come on and play them both out of the side but that hope's starting to look like a long shot.
If Graham and Armfield are still pressing for senior selection in two years from now we'll still be struggling.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Baggers on May 24, 2016, 09:06:42 am
Not sure about Jones over Jaksch. I prefer Jaksch as he is alot better mark. Has had games of 3,3 and 4 goals and other gamesin defence like last week where he got 20 touches and 6 marks. Jones has done ok though and certainly enough to hold his place so he stays. Right now, with Casboult out, I'd play them both.

I look forward to the day when we don't have to compare Jones and Jaksch... neither is Walls, McKay, Mclure, Kernahan, Spalding, Fevola, Whitnall, you could even throw SOS in there as a key, tall forward.

In a way comparing Jones and Jaksch is like trying to work out who is our 8th best tall forward versus who is our 9th best tall forward. Come on Harrry, come on Charlie, come on SOSOS... put us out of our misery!!!!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: cookie2 on May 24, 2016, 09:41:27 am
Don't get me wrong, I'm not pumping up Graham's tyres.
He's nothing flash but then neither is Armfield, I was hoping that Clem Smith would come on and play them both out of the side but that hope's starting to look like a long shot.
If Graham and Armfield are still pressing for senior selection in two years from now we'll still be struggling.

Depth only - footsoldiers.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LP on May 24, 2016, 10:52:08 am
Don't get me wrong, I'm not pumping up Graham's tyres.
He's nothing flash but then neither is Armfield, I was hoping that Clem Smith would come on and play them both out of the side but that hope's starting to look like a long shot.
If Graham and Armfield are still pressing for senior selection in two years from now we'll still be struggling.

You cannot kill off all the depth players, the ones in the gun should be the blokes who currently languish in the 2s and cannot get a look in. I'd expect blokes like Armfield and Graham to be the perfect depth players going forward.

Will they will ever make regular contributions, who knows?
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: RiverRat on May 24, 2016, 02:54:14 pm

Great to see Gus Sheehan back and he was good. Disposal by foot showed a few others how it's done. Did some very encouraging things but tired and had an ice pack on his calf at the end. Hope it was just precautionary. Gotta hunch that after a couple more games he'll be pressing for senior selection.



Long overdue return.

Thanks for the report Baggers.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: LP on May 24, 2016, 04:38:04 pm
Check out the Korcheck goal at the club website.

Notice the Tap! :o

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2016-05-24/korchecks-first-goal-vfl-round-7 (http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2016-05-24/korchecks-first-goal-vfl-round-7)

This bloke could be the real deal!
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: cookie2 on May 24, 2016, 04:43:05 pm
Check out the Korcheck goal at the club website.

Notice the Tap! :o

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2016-05-24/korchecks-first-goal-vfl-round-7 (http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2016-05-24/korchecks-first-goal-vfl-round-7)

This bloke could be the real deal!

Nice tap and nice kick! He should be called "Goliath" - he looks huuuge.  :)
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: blue4life on May 24, 2016, 06:23:31 pm
You cannot kill off all the depth players, the ones in the gun should be the blokes who currently languish in the 2s and cannot get a look in.

I agree, but in the past we've kept sub standard players on our list way too long.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 24, 2016, 07:05:30 pm
Check out the Korcheck goal at the club website.

Notice the Tap! :o

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2016-05-24/korchecks-first-goal-vfl-round-7 (http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2016-05-24/korchecks-first-goal-vfl-round-7)

This bloke could be the real deal!
His ruck work is coming on nicely. He got more taps than Wood last week and more taps to advantage. But he still has a fair bit of work on the rest of game to do yet. But for a beginner, he is doing nicely.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 24, 2016, 08:14:11 pm
Check out the Korcheck goal at the club website.

Notice the Tap! :o

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2016-05-24/korchecks-first-goal-vfl-round-7 (http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2016-05-24/korchecks-first-goal-vfl-round-7)

This bloke could be the real deal!
Centre bounce work looks bloody text book. Better kicking action than Cas. This guy has a future.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: jeza on May 24, 2016, 08:21:12 pm
Jaksch has surely got to be back this week. Surely.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: crashlander on May 24, 2016, 08:24:42 pm
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Like always, the stats make interesting reading. I don't know who this Goodwin character is, but he got more taps than Wood as well.

8 possessions to Cunningham was disappointing. But he is a kid and will have off days. His level of fitness?

Silvagni is nowhere near fit enough for senior footy. He runs off exhausted far too often. But with the injury breaks he's had, I'm not surprised. How he will be after a couple of pre-seasons: that I'm looking forward to!

Dick: 11 possessions suggests he is not fit at the moment. He was getting 25+ just a few weeks back with no supports on his leg. I don't know what is wrong, but he is no more fit than I am.

Whiley: 3/4 of his possessions came after half time. I think that says something about his will.

Disappointed in Ballard: I thought he might improve enough to be in rookie contention. But he just can't get the ball consistently.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: jeza on May 24, 2016, 08:39:42 pm
I'd look to get SOSOS in sooner rather than later. Class like that doesn't grow on trees.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: cimm1979 on May 24, 2016, 08:41:21 pm
I'd look to get SOSOS in sooner rather than later. Class like that doesn't grow on trees.

So?

He'll play when ready .
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Jack Burton on May 24, 2016, 09:46:04 pm
Please do not throw the boy under the bus, lets get him ready for 2018-9 when we can have a decent crack at it (hopefully)
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: laj on May 24, 2016, 09:55:30 pm
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Like always, the stats make interesting reading. I don't know who this Goodwin character is, but he got more taps than Wood as well.

8 possessions to Cunningham was disappointing. But he is a kid and will have off days. His level of fitness?

Silvagni is nowhere near fit enough for senior footy. He runs off exhausted far too often. But with the injury breaks he's had, I'm not surprised. How he will be after a couple of pre-seasons: that I'm looking forward to!

Dick: 11 possessions suggests he is not fit at the moment. He was getting 25+ just a few weeks back with no supports on his leg. I don't know what is wrong, but he is no more fit than I am.

Whiley: 3/4 of his possessions came after half time. I think that says something about his will.

Disappointed in Ballard: I thought he might improve enough to be in rookie contention. But he just can't get the ball consistently.

Foster, I read, was extremely impressive. Was very hard and strong in the air and positioned himself very well. Encouraging.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: PaulP on May 24, 2016, 09:57:22 pm
Please do not throw the boy under the bus, lets get him ready for 2018-9 when we can have a decent crack at it (hopefully)

Especially with his old man now firmly ensconced at PP, I'm sure they'll choose the right time to play him.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Thryleon on May 24, 2016, 11:04:50 pm
Sosos isn't far off.

What he does, he does really well.

We are running out of fit willing and able bodies and if you toss up between Everitt or Walker giving you not much, then it's very easy to play a kid who'll give you not much, and will gain more from it.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 24, 2016, 11:27:45 pm
Sosos isn't far off.

What he does, he does really well.

We are running out of fit willing and able bodies and if you toss up between Everitt or Walker giving you not much, then it's very easy to play a kid who'll give you not much, and will gain more from it.
Nah, he doesnt have the size yet for the position he will play.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: townsendcalling on May 25, 2016, 07:43:22 am
Nah, he doesnt have the size yet for the position he will play.

What is the urgency with Sivagni!?!?  We recruited a set of top up players to buy us time and keep us competitive while our Classes of 2016/17/18 all mature and prepare for senior football. We're not challenging in 2016, we're developing.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Jeffy38 on May 25, 2016, 08:25:34 am
Really pleased for foster. Has done some hard yards and you can slowly see the improvement judging by stats and baggers comments. Hope he gets a gig soon
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: DJC on May 25, 2016, 09:05:47 am
Check out the Korcheck goal at the club website.

Notice the Tap! :o

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2016-05-24/korchecks-first-goal-vfl-round-7 (http://www.carltonfc.com.au/video/2016-05-24/korchecks-first-goal-vfl-round-7)

This bloke could be the real deal!

Great vertical leap, good use of the body and a very well directed tap that creates a clearance.  That hitout was the equal of anything you would see from the AFL's best ruckmen.  Whoever is teaching Korcheck ruckcraft knows what he is doing.  His kicking action is uncomplicated and effective and someone has done a good job there too.

Korcheck's basketball background is evident in the way he protected the ball after marking; probably not ideal if the best option is to move the ball on quickly.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 25, 2016, 10:52:18 am
Great vertical leap, good use of the body and a very well directed tap that creates a clearance.  That hitout was the equal of anything you would see from the AFL's best ruckmen.  Whoever is teaching Korcheck ruckcraft knows what he is doing.  His kicking action is uncomplicated and effective and someone has done a good job there too.

Korcheck's basketball background is evident in the way he protected the ball after marking; probably not ideal if the best option is to move the ball on quickly.

Yep...real rebounders technique  plus good arm extension when he took that mark....will need to be more heads up and looking forward/sideways but I'd rather he take his time than give the ball away. I was impressed with that centre tap out and the kicking action was ok....
He has real possibilities and looks better than Gorringe rucking IMO...
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Baggers on May 25, 2016, 12:46:43 pm
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Like always, the stats make interesting reading. I don't know who this Goodwin character is, but he got more taps than Wood as well.

8 possessions to Cunningham was disappointing. But he is a kid and will have off days. His level of fitness?

Silvagni is nowhere near fit enough for senior footy. He runs off exhausted far too often. But with the injury breaks he's had, I'm not surprised. How he will be after a couple of pre-seasons: that I'm looking forward to!

Dick: 11 possessions suggests he is not fit at the moment. He was getting 25+ just a few weeks back with no supports on his leg. I don't know what is wrong, but he is no more fit than I am.

Whiley: 3/4 of his possessions came after half time. I think that says something about his will.

Disappointed in Ballard: I thought he might improve enough to be in rookie contention. But he just can't get the ball consistently.

Good observations re Foster, Capt Crash. His improvement over the weeks has been very noticeable and he's got a ripper left foot. Likewise Billy Gowers has shown more over the past couple of weeks... seems to have a terrific attitude and is well liked by his team mates.

Reckon Dick is carrying an injury, wasn't himself at all on Sunday.

Boekhorst was in and amongst it until injured and missed the second half.

SOSOS was dangerous until he tired in the second half. But his old man started slowly as well - played many games in the twos.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Thryleon on May 25, 2016, 01:10:38 pm
Nah, he doesnt have the size yet for the position he will play.

That doesnt mean he can't play senior footy sooner in a different position.

You see the way he moves, the way he uses the ball, and the way he actually gets involved in contests that he isnt that far off the mark at VFL level.  His consistency is a bigger issue than his size.  Some players just never get big, but are the tough nuggetty wiry types.

What is the urgency with Sivagni!?!?  We recruited a set of top up players to buy us time and keep us competitive while our Classes of 2016/17/18 all mature and prepare for senior football. We're not challenging in 2016, we're developing.

No rush.  Part of his developement will be to get a taste for footy at the top level.


Look guys, I get the idea that people see things as guys rushing the inclusion of players, but it isnt anything to do with that.

Its solely to do with who we are playing, vs who is available, vs who is putting their hand up for senior footy, vs what roles are available.

The idea that players are on your senior list on slow heat is a furphy.  They are senior footballers who are currently not playing senior football for a variety of reasons one of which is who else is keeping them out of the side.

If SOSOS is putting his hand up (and thats not to say he is or isnt) then he will play regardless of being a bit undersized as he will simply play a different role.

Jack could quite easily play "small forward" as it currently stands if we need him to.

Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: DJC on May 25, 2016, 04:21:31 pm
The coach's assessment is a lot more positive this week and it's pleasing to read that some of our young blokes are improving.

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51. Blaine Boekhorst
Stats: 9 disposals, 3 inside 50s, 5 handball receives, 1 goal
From the coach: Blaine only played the first half before going down with an unfortunate injury. For the time he was on, he gave us some good outside run and kicked our first goal of the game from 50.

60. David Cuningham
Stats: 9 disposals, 2 inside 50s, 6 handball receives
From the coach: He contributed well around the stoppages and got better as the game went on in terms of his run and spread: he continued to build fitness in his second week after a couple of weeks out.


26. Matthew Dick
Stats: 11 disposals, 6 handball receives
From the coach: He defended well in our back half and stood up well at stages: he didn’t give us the same drive from the back half as we’re used to but he battled manfully throughout the day.

31. Jayden Foster
Stats: 19 disposals, 10 marks, 6 handball receives
From the coach: ‘Foz’ competed well, and showed some really good positioning while being brutal in the air on a number of occasions down back. He also used the ball well in our back half.

34. Jesse Glass-McCasker
Stats: 12 disposals, 4 marks
From the coach: Jesse was similar to Foster in that he held up well over four quarters: he continues to work hard on his positioning and defensive side of his game, and is making positive strides in his development.

38. Billy Gowers
Stats: 19 disposals, 7 marks, 1 goal
From the coach: It was probably Bill’s best game of the season, where he played off half-back and was really aggressive in his positioning and with a couple of body spoils. He also kicked a nice running goal in the third quarter.

32. Nick Graham
Stats: 32 disposals (14 contested), 10 marks (4 inside 50), 5 clearances, 8 tackles, 3 goals
From the coach: Nick was once again terrific, playing on-ball with a chunk of time spent forward as well. He set the tone around the contest early with his tackling efforts and led from front all afternoon.

48. Kristian Jaksch
Stats: 18 disposals, 7 marks (5 inside 50, 4 contested), 4 goals
From the coach: I thought it was a really solid performance from KJ, who played an important role in the front half competing in air to finish with four goals while also giving support defensively at stages. He continues to build form and has assumed a leadership role with the younger players.

80. Matthew Korcheck
Stats: 2 disposals, 19 hitouts, 1 goal
From the coach: Big Matty had an impact in the ruck with some really impressive tap work, while he kicked his first senior goal which was definitely a highlight. He showcased his continued improved understanding of the game.

47. Ciaran Sheehan
Stats: 13 disposals, 3 inside 50s, 7 handball receives
From the coach: It was great to have ‘Gussy’ back with us: he had some important contests on half-back and improved as the day went on. He began providing run and carry and will only get better as he continues to build form and fitness.

2. Jack Silvagni
Stats: 8 disposals, 3 hard-ball gets, 3 goals
From the coach: SOS was really lively - I thought his work-rate in front of ball was impressive and gave us the chance to score. He continued to show some positive signs, and while he finished with three goals he probably could have finished with a couple more.

67. Clem Smith
Stats: 20 disposals, 6 loose-ball gets, 2 inside 50s, 7 handball receives
From the coach: It was one of Clem’s better games for the year as well which was encouraging. He topped high-speed running so his work-rate was much improved and his tackle on Coburg’s ruckman in the third quarter showed his hunger. He provided plenty of spark around the ball.

76. Jason Tutt
Stats: 37 disposals, 10 marks, 6 inside 50s, 7 clearances, 11 handball receives, 3 goals
From the coach: Tutty was really good, he had a good balance of winning inside and outside ball and gave us great run all day. He was generally composed and used the ball well, and his hard work was rewarded with three goals.

65. Dillon Viojo-Rainbow
Stats: 15 disposals, 3 hard-ball gets, 3 loose-ball gets, 5 handball receives
From the coach: He played a role off half-back and defended pretty well. He had some important moments with ball in hand from the back half where he was able to set us up, and showed some encouraging contested efforts which had been lacking a bit in recent weeks.

42. Mark Whiley
Stats: 16 disposals, 4 hard-ball gets, 5 clearances, 3 tackles
From the coach: Mark’s first game back for five weeks so he was a bit rusty early, but he eventually worked into the game (11 disposals in the second half). He had a couple of important tackles and his clearance work improved as the game went on.

36. Cameron Wood
Stats: 11 disposals, 16 hitouts, 4 clearances
From the coach: Woody competed hard in the ruck, and when he gets his hands on the ball in the contest it generally went to our advantage. He continues to work hard in covering the ground and - coming off a limited preparation - will continue to build form.

It seems that we are building some depth with our defenders and could have some midfielders putting pressure on the senior team.

Perhaps I'm reading too much into Fraser's comments but it seems that he thinks Jack has a way to go before he'll be ready for AFL.  That's certainly my impression from my limited observations.  He certainly has the potential and I'd rather see him nurtured so that he takes the next step when he is ready.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: jeza on May 26, 2016, 05:05:17 pm
What is the urgency with Sivagni!?!?  We recruited a set of top up players to buy us time and keep us competitive while our Classes of 2016/17/18 all mature and prepare for senior football. We're not challenging in 2016, we're developing.

A big part of development is to play AFL games. But more importantly - with class like that he'll find a way to impact games.
Title: Re: VFL Rd 7: Northern Blues vs Coburg
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2016, 05:13:02 pm
A big part of development is to play AFL games. But more importantly - with class like that he'll find a way to impact games.

Couldn't agree more. The only thing holding SOSOS back at present is match fitness. Barring injury, he'll play senior footy this year and I am sure his team mates knows how to look after him re not throwing him to the wolves too early. He aint gonna learn the caper by player in the magoos too long.

Ps It was great to see Jo, Serge and the other family members at Preston on Sunday supporting/watching SOSOS.