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Don't think so.

I would say you're giving too much credence to what was a probably one of their less important observations.

I'm not saying lose games on purpose, but if you look at today we had more to get excited about with Johnson playing than we would with Waite or Ellard etc.

When you play young guys, they make errors due to their inexperience and they sure as hell will against all of the teams in the 8 that we play in the run home to the end of the season.

The chances of us winning these matches is very low but if we get some solid game time into the next breed of players its worth it.

I'm not saying lose games on purpose, but if you look at today we had more to get excited about with Johnson playing than we would with Waite or Ellard etc.

When you play young guys, they make errors due to their inexperience and they sure as hell will against all of the teams in the 8 that we play in the run home to the end of the season.

The chances of us winning these matches is very low but if we get some solid game time into the next breed of players its worth it.

Good win but this Stkilda is one of the worst teams I have seen for years...I pity a star like Rewioldt having to put up with such numpties delivering the ball to him.

I wasnt that impressed to be honest...same players ie Walker turning the ball over in the same way with poor kicks that didnt hit targets...Henderson dropping marks he should have taken but both were saved by Stkilda's inability to make us pay because they were so crape.....
Everitt had a picnic courtesy of inept coaching from Richardson...why a spud like Dennis Lane was allowed to stay on Everitt for so long was laughable....Malthouse got that matchup right...as Dennis Lane was  a zero threat.

Simon White gave us something different which was one positive but I wouldnt count on him kicking 4 goals for the rest of his career...probably will see the end of Waite though as Mick now has another option.
Casboult had it all his own way as the Saints were so undersized...the push off with Montagna was like the Grade 6 kid pushing the Grade 1 kid out of the road....

Didnt really have any poor players as it was so easy to get a kick...Blaine Johnson's tackling was good but he will need to convert better to make it as a AFL senior player
but he does have a red hot go unlike Garlett.

Bell kicked a goal and delivered a nice bump but also looked his usual untidy self with the ball and he needs some games to get the pace of the game again.
Docherty was neat with the footy, Gibbs and Daisy didnt do much but who cares they didnt have to do much as the Saints gave the footy back so often...

Jamison and Rowe were good although delivery to Reiwoldt as I sadi was poor and Stanley drifted out of the game after looking dangerous...
Curnow did a good job and Menzel was also very good early unitl injured.....why he came back on the ground I dont know???
Murphy was ok and did some push and shove stuff which is out of character but I like the way he is warming to his task as captain...

Warnock lumbered around but didnt really dominate and his opponent Longer was a non event also.....

Winning beats losing and the margin was fair given how crape the Saints were but something was missing for me in terms of improvement which may sound strange given how much we won by but the opposition was so poor I couldnt get excited about this game...

The blokes in the Fox Footy box were actually talking up our list going forward, which I couldn't believe.
Were saying that we ve got a good base to work from (Murph, Gibbs, Thomas,, Everritt, Hendo, Jamison) plus some quality kids coming through (Buckley, Menzel, Johnson, Cripps).
Older but inexperienced players like White, Rowe and Casboult have shown improvement.
If we trade / draft right this year, we can make big strides forward next year.

Quote from: Dominator_7 on July 06, 2014, 04:42:45 pm

Quote from: TheSheik on July 06, 2014, 04:07:10 pm

Quote from: cimm1979 on July 06, 2014, 04:04:29 pm

Quote from: TheSheik on July 06, 2014, 04:00:57 pm

Johnson again showed that he has something to offer, gotta keep playing the kid, its the only way he will improve.

If Carrazzo has a serious injury, then it is time for Graham to be a given a full match.

I reckon he'll bring in Cachia.

More a defensive mid.

Just in case you weren't aware Cimm, we aren't playing for wins any more, we are playing for a better draft position.

I d be disgusted if that was the case.
That losing mentality got us nowhere last time around.
Both Hawthorn and Geelong, and to a lesser extent North  have shown that you don't need to totally bottom out to build  a good side.

I'm the same. By all means play the kids but still try everything to win. Tanking just breeds a losing mentality, poor work ethic and poor culture, which is often hard to bounce back from, as we have found.

Whether one gets pick 5 or pick 6 or 7 makes very little difference. You get something decent. We've had no.1's before only to find there was something better after our no.1's. You used to tank before because of the extra priority pick in the top 5, not simply to gain an extra spot or two.