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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL 2024 Elimination Final 1 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane
Here are my notes from the I50 I counted (by I50 I mean every time the ball cross the 50m line in our fwd half)
Q1   I50   Pitto spilled mark
Q1   I50   Kemp kick in to Big O who Int marks
Q1   I50   Cripps kick in to Big O who Int marks
Q1   I50   Acres kicks a grubber, TO straigh back out. First I50 in 8 min
Q1   I50   Kennedy kick in, H drops the mark,  Williams gathers from Cripps, snaps across the face OOB
Q1   I50   Cripps kicks in,  gathered and cleared by Bris def
Q1   I50   Hewett kicks in, Motlop fumbles, Wiliams to H who is  tackled drops ball, Bris clear
Q1   I50   Acres kicks in, Andrews intercepts and 50m pen
   Qtr time   0.0.0
Q2   I50   Gov kicks in, Hewett gathers snaps short intercepted
Q2   I50   Acres to H, drops the mark, Kemp gathers
Q2   I50   Hewett I50 Walsh, H and Kennedy get in each others way, Kennedy marks gives to H who snaps ootf misses by 20m
Q2   I50   Hew I50 kemp gathers snaps acrros the face  ootf
Q2   I50   Cowan kicks in, 35 for Bris interecpts ( H out pointed)
Q2   I50   Acres from a passageof play  I50, kicks over the head of Williams and goes OOB.Throw in, Pitto fumbes Bris take it away
Q2   I50   Lij I50 from a stoppage,  H flies drops the mark, Zorko gathers and clears to Bris player
Q2   I50   Acres from a free for a trip I50, punched down to ground, Bris gathers and clears
Q2   I50   From a Cent Clear, Doc gathers, kicks I50 looking for Durdin, Z\orko intercepts
Q2   I50   Cerra i50 from the stoppage, Fantasia runs on, Zorko clears out
Q2   I50   Cripps free kick on the wing, kicks I50, comes straight out again
Q2   I50   Williams kicks i50 to 2 Bris defenders, ball spills, Durdin gathers, gives to Cripps for a goal
    3m51s to go in the 2nd qtr   1.0.6

Interesting reading. I appreciate that the players noted are not the only ones in the area but they are the ones involved.
Of the 20 I50's listed, only two of our "high pressure small forwards" are mentioned in the moments. And - they only feature once or twice each. Harry and Kempy (plus others) couldn't hold their marks or fumbled which means that the ball comes to ground on most occasions.

Where were the small forwards? Let's call it - 'missing'. And there goes the offensive pressure - turnover and goal to Brisbane!

This isn't isolated to this game. As many have bemoaned previously.

Some on this website suggest that these smalls, such as Durdin and Motlop should be cut some slack because of injury and 'lack of a pre-season'. Okay. Let's go with those excuses and cut them some slack. They are both contracted until the end of 2025? Let's see how they go next season.

Durdin shouldn't have played due to his current injury. We all seem to agree on this.

Motlop seemed to be injury free for this game and the previous ones. His going missing is more between the ears IMHO.

Fantasia must have some other roles that we are not across....who knows??

Or, we can explore the options that might present now to make list changes.

I remain highly sceptical of their current value on the list. Can and must do better.

Their EF was a very strong indicator of their current value.

Make the changes.

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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane
Playing 2 rucks is ok because one of them is a key forward in charlies absense.

Dropping Cincotta and playing a spud like Fantasia has got me stuffed.
Ditto Durdin (and to a lesser extent IMO Motlop)
Dropping Moir and playing Fantasia has me stuffed.
I hope we have Fantasia as the sub. I somehow think Kemp will get that role though.

I don't think we should be playing a team that has....
Williams, Durdin, Motlop and Fantasia,
Too many potential, non-contributors. History will tell you that at least one of them will have 6 or less touches and very little else influence over the game.
You could play Cincotta in a similar role who would give you lockdown options, kick as many goals, give you the same defensive pressure and twice as many touches.

Apart from that....i think its a decent side, albeit a little bit different from the norm, but circumstances dictate that.


After feeling a little bullish about our chances for the past few days..... The Motlop, Fantasia and Durdin aspects are rather deflating....

Still - GO BLUES!!!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Finals 2024 Carlton vs Brisbane in Brisbane

They're both less than optimal at the moment.... Both need to step up somewhat to justify their selections. There is some new blood who have had a taste of the big show. Unless the passengers start delivering, they will be overtaken.

A lot of focus on the Saints game for Jesse. His Eagles game the week before was as just as bad.

Both of his games were pretty woeful really....he's in his third year. Should be doing better - consistently!
 
His best is good enough.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 23 2024 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs West Coast
Yes, even though he may not be winning the footy, Jesse is never a passenger and his work often sets up teammates.

Not sure about that....I was at the game and he was pretty ineffectual for most of the day. No possessions for the first half? His goal was opportunist, which he should be taking advantage of. He could have kicked it with his eyes shut. He just doesn't do it often enough. Take away the goal and he would be the lowest AF ranked Carlton player for the day.

He has the skill but was passenger like for most of the day. His 'work' is not that influential but, granted, it is a positive. At this stage of his development he should be contributing much more in terms of directly impacting the game.

 
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: R23 - Carlton v Essendon- Like Dancing with your Drug Crazed Ugly Stepsister

An excerpt from the MRP report....

"Contact between Carlton’s Brock McLean and Essendon’s Brendon Goddard from the second quarter of Saturday’s match was reviewed. After viewing all available vision and receiving a medical report from the Essendon Football Club, it was the view of the panel there was no forceful high contact made. No further action was taken."

Frustrating to say the least.

Won't mention the Joe Danniher non decision as he shimmied like a deer in headlights against Jammo.

I read that Carlton has had one of the best runs with the umpires in terms of frees for and against but I can't help but think a few poor decisions at key times have certainly impacted on our win loss ratio.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: #malthousemovies
Hoosiers

(Thanks to Wikipedia)

Basketball movie with Gene Hackman as the grumpy coach......


Norman Dale arrives in the rural southwest Indiana town of Hickory to become a high school teacher and head basketball coach. He was hired by Cletus Summers, the principal and a longtime friend of Dale's. Dale had lost a previous collegiate coaching position after striking a student, so the job is something of a last chance for him.

Like much of the state, Hickory is passionate about basketball. Dale is questioned rather pointedly and intensely at an impromptu meeting at the town barber shop. People are aware that the best player in town, Jimmy Chitwood, does not intend to play on this season's team due to his attachment to the previous coach. Faculty member Myra Fleener warns Dale not to try to persuade Jimmy to change his mind; she believes he needs to focus on academics in order to get a scholarship to attend college and have a better future. Dale has no intention of going after Jimmy; in fact, Dale meets with Jimmy and tells him that playing on the team is ultimately his choice and that he doesn't care whether Jimmy eventually joins the team.

The school enrollment is so small that Dale has only seven players on his squad. At his first practice, Dale immediately dismisses the acting coach, one of the townsmen. The man threatens Dale not to "screw up" the team. Minutes into addressing the players for the first time, he dismisses two, Buddy Walker and Whit Butcher, from the team for not paying attention when he speaks. He then begins drilling the remaining five players (Rade Butcher, Merle Webb, Everett Flatch, Strap Purl, and Ollie McLellan) with fundamentals and conditioning but no scrimmages, much to the players' dislike. Townsmen intrude on the practice and demand to know what Dale is doing. Whit's father intervenes, however, and makes his son apologize to Dale and ask for another chance. Mr. Butcher then shows his support of Dale by dismissing the townsmen. Later, Mr. Butcher will join Dale on the bench.

Built on a four-pass offense, Dale remains steadfast when Rade Butcher disobeys him and shoots without passing, benching him despite shooting accurately, and playing with four players after another fouls out. Rade later jumps to Dale's defense in an ensuing game when an opposing player threatens him. After the brawl, Cletus, who has been assisting Dale in coaching, decides his heart cannot take the tension.

The coach alienates the community with a slow, defensive style that does not immediately produce results and also by losing his temper, which causes him to be ejected from multiple games.

With Cletus laid up, Dale invites knowledgeable basketball fan Shooter Flatch, Everett's alcoholic father, to join him on the bench as a new assistant. This, too, confounds the town, including Everett. The coach has just one condition, that Shooter must be sober at all times around the boys.

By the middle of the season, an emergency town meeting is called to vote on whether Dale should be dismissed. Fleener appreciates the coach's staying away from Jimmy and sides with him, but the town votes him out. At the last minute, Jimmy enters the meeting and asks permission to speak: he says he's ready to begin playing basketball again, but only if Dale remains as coach. Fleener's mother calls for a re-vote, and the town almost unanimously votes for Dale to stay as coach.

From this point, Hickory becomes an unstoppable team. Along the way, Dale proves Shooter's value to the townspeople (and to Shooter himself) by intentionally getting himself ejected from a game and forcing Shooter to show his coaching ability. Shooter does just that by diagramming a play by which Hickory wins the game on a last-second shot. Despite a setback in which Shooter arrives drunk to a game and ends up in a hospital, the team advances through tournament play, with contributions from unsung players, such as the pint-sized Ollie and devoutly religious Strap.

Hickory shocks the state by reaching the championship game in Indianapolis. In a large arena and before a crowd bigger than any they've seen, the Hickory players face long odds to defeat a team from South Bend, whose integrated players are taller and more athletic. But with Chitwood scoring at the last second, tiny Hickory takes home the 1952 Indiana state championship.