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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
A very different 'parting of the ways' to the usual straight forward sacking. And that takes some time to get our collective heads around. The senior coach tendered his resignation, which was accepted. The senior coach was/is loved & respected by players and all staff at PP. Everyone from the club speaks highly, publicly, of Vossy. This is not normal for many who need to have a good guy and bad guy. Everyone's a good guy in this unique scenario. Heads explode! And some busy themselves, still, hunting for a guilty party in all this. Newsflash: it's done, time to move on.

Perhaps.

The same style press release was issued in regards to Austin....yet within the week he was seeking legal action to sue the club for sacking him.

So the club has proven to tell porky pies, on the same day no less, so is it plausible that they told 2 'lies' on the same day? Absolutely.
Regardless, i think its more like...."You are done here. You choose how you want to go out." Vossy chose that way.

Yes, its all done and dusted. Thats not the story though.

The story is the guys who pulled the trigger......or accepted the resignation after pointing a gun to his head.
Did they do the right thing.
As above, PR spin is working wonderfully.....except the austin part.....but was it actually the right decision? Time will tell.....but most likely not reveal itself at all, look at the past 25 years of coaches.

I said the week before Vossy was sacked that i expected a few more wins in the coming weeks, this being the most likely. Next week being also likely.
So he's timing was off, he may have saved himself, but it appears the decision was already made, so there was no point.

I chose to respect Vossy's version of events. He deserves that, and not jumping at shadows, creating perspectives to suit personal narratives or dwelling on the past.

And if there is an element of PR/spin... so what? What are you going to do about it? Complaining about something you've no control over seems rather pointless.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
A very different 'parting of the ways' to the usual straight forward sacking. And that takes some time to get our collective heads around. The senior coach tendered his resignation, which was accepted. The senior coach was/is loved & respected by players and all staff at PP. Everyone from the club speaks highly, publicly, of Vossy. This is not normal for many who need to have a good guy and bad guy. Everyone's a good guy in this unique scenario. Heads explode! And some busy themselves, still, hunting for a guilty party in all this. Newsflash: it's done, time to move on.

And back to the thread... Personally, yes it was great we had a win, however... in that final qtr the Dishlickers were their own worst enemy. Two promising launches deep into their F50 went out on the full from normally reliable kicks, The Bont was on one leg at centre ball ups giving us an advantage which we took full advantage of, Pitto hardly had an opponent at that centre ball ups giving Crippa an armchair ride as he, also, wound back the clock. Bluntly, we could not have met the Dishlickers at a better time... they lost it as much as we won it. I suspect most sides above us would have put them to the sword with a big win. Sorry to be a wet blanket. However, it was important for the players to get that W reward for effort. And supporters.

We'll learn more at AO on Saturday night. Go on with it, or a reality check. Pass the popcorn please... with real melted butter. Ta.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Western Bulldogs
Fraser's thoughts on Vossy and the win; "We’ve exchanged text messages. He was proud of the group, his fingerprints were all over last week’s result - I was really pleased for the players and hopefully ‘Vossy’ found some joy in seeing a victory as well."

Vossy's departure on his own terms, insofar as timing, probably gives him more scope to enjoy our wins than the six coaches we've sacked this century.

Yep. Just listened to the same thing at Frase's media conference. This acknowledgement from Frase says volumes about how this particular ex coach is viewed by the club... very, very different -- as you point out David -- to other coaches who've departed this century. I think we can safely say that the club has 'turned the corner.'

I'd still love to see Vossy considered to replace Diesel on the Board.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 10 2026 Pre Game Predictions Carlton vs Western Bulldogs at Marvel
Bob Murphy suggested on the wireless this morning that, if we do win, we shouldn't sing the club song.

I can follow his reasoning but I suspect that it will be a case of "a win is a win" and Jack will get his Gatorade shower if we can get over the Doggies.
Seriously, that sniffling left wing crackpot should stay in his lane and mind his own business. If we happen to win we should sing the song loud and proud, I’m sure it’s what Vossy would want us to do.

Yep, exactly what Vossy would want for his boys.

Hard to imagine a more inane or puerile comment than what Bob M came out with. Ponce.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane


Or... we just about always give a half of terrific footy but generally follow it with a shocker. This time we reversed the halves  ;)  ;D
The most reliable thing, for whatever reasons(s), about us is inconsistency. If our team had a psychiatric identity it'd be Multiple Personality Disorder :(

Bipolar.

Which type?  ;) As an aside, K, did you know -- probably do-- that most of the great discoveries and inventions of human existence were made by bipolar, high functioning autistic/aspergers, depressive folks... and so on? Neurodivergent if you like. Then, of course, you have many great artists (music, painting, sculpture etc.) who created some of their best works whilst on psychedelics! Seems neuro-normals are just destined to be consumers  ;D

Back on topic... Perhaps, just perhaps, after half time we were in the 'nothing to lose' mindset so the players threw off the shackles and played with freedom and boldness/risk. Fingers crossed we learned something from it.

One of the things you get from playing as we did in the second half is reward for effort. Amazing how, when getting reward for effort, it energizes and any perceived tiredness and slowness just vanishes. Everyone seems quicker and boundless with energy!
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane
Confidence and competence in a game plan makes a difference measured in fractions of a second, a reduction barely noticeable except in the outcome, that reduction in hesitation is all it takes to get away an effective disposal.

Oddly, not panicking, being a little calmer, buys you a few moments of clarity. See Pendles as a reference.

A great example of the opposite was Newman touching that kick that was heading out of bounds, if he'd been a little bit patient, if he'd been a fraction clearer in his mind, he would have left it to cross the line and delivered him a lasso.

Cripps getting a fast break and trying ineffectively and unsuccessfully to get away a pressured disposal, he can just ride the bump or tackle, spin 180 if he has to, and offload to any of his passing team-mates would be 1000x better than a bodged rushed kick under pressure. Late in the game he reverted to the basics, and it made him appear much much better, he was able to create some time and space because he knew what to do.

Yep. Stuck to what he is best at, get the aggott and hand it off to someone in a better position... creating an opportunity for a team mate - leadership (rather than kick and hope or taking on 3 tacklers - hero stuff).
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane
You could probably turn that around and ask the same question of us in multiple games.
How often do we release the pressure and ease up in games, allowing the opposition to get a momentum change we find difficult to stop.
How often do we have that miss or error that suddenly turns a game.
We lack that 'kill' instinct where just one or two more goals would have snuffed out any challenge.

Or... we just about always give a half of terrific footy but generally follow it with a shocker. This time we reversed the halves  ;)  ;D
The most reliable thing, for whatever reasons(s), about us is inconsistency. If our team had a psychiatric identity it'd be Multiple Personality Disorder :(
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: AFL Rd 9 2026 Post Game Prognostications Carlton vs Brisbane
I am still struggling to get my head around how this team can play 7-8 weeks of utter sh1te and look like a basketcase so badly.

Next thing we see is against the reigning premiers, once again, play like a totally incompetent busted butthole in the first half and then magically transform into near worldbeaters in the second half and nearly pinch it from them.

What did they drink, smoke or inject in the rooms at halftime ??

What pixie dust did they have sprinkled on them ??

What did Voss do or say that completely changed their mindset and application so dramatically ??

The other big question now has to be, was this a one off 'flash in the pan' or will the raised standards continue for the remainder of the season ??


Not wanting to be a wet blanket but... Or to what degree did Brisvegas ease up, even just a little?