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Robert Heatley Stand / 2023 Crystal Ball
Not long to go now. With our first semi real hitout only 3 weeks away against Rottingwood at PP.

So, let's dust off the cloth covering the crystal ball and share some predictions.

1. What will be the finishing position for the CFC at the end of season 2023?
2. Top 5 in the CFC John Nicholls Medal.
3. Most improved/surprise packet.
4. Most valuable small forward.
5. Future 200 gamer who's played less than 30 games at season commencement.
&
On a negative note:
6. Slider. Bloke who's played more than 50 games but doesn't secure a regular senior berth, based on performance only - not injury.

Moi:
1. 6
2. Cripps, Docherty, C Curnow, Cerra & Walsh
3. Carrol
4. Motlop
5. Cowan
6. Dow.
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Blah-Blah Bar / RIP Renee Geyer, Aussie Queen of Soul
Saddened to just hear that the Aussie Queen of Soul, Renee Geyer has passed away after surgery.

I had the pleasure to interview Renee back in '76 when a young DJ at my first commercial radio gig in SA. Left an indelible impression on me. Just a wonderful, immensely talented, irreverent performer gifted with an amazing voice. Rest in Peace, Renee.
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Robert Heatley Stand / AFL Rd 1 2022 Pre Game Prognostications
Soon all the pre season hype, optimism, concerns and worries will deliver some insights. Only a first game in a long season of on-going development under a new coaching group, led by Vossy, but a game in which we hopefully get a good look at the 'New Blues' - players, coaches and game plan/attitude. Hopefully we begin the year with a win. Be a nice change.

Optimism.
Loved the team defense approach, bold ball movement and discipline of the pre season games against good opposition. Intensity was there and we just kept coming - persistence. Yummy.
Impressed by the Gov. Rolled into contests to spoil, delivery by foot was important and dangerous and high footy IQ was on display.
Impressed by our small forwards and forward half defensive pressure.
Crippa, Hewitt, Cerra and Kennedy as a midfield group (and soon, Walshy added to that group).
LOB improvement.
Running half backs.

Concerns.
In game lapses... allowing opposition to kick multiple, unanswered goals (though mitigated, particularly in the D's game by 2nd half personnel changes) i.e ability to deliver 4 qtr pressure/handle effectively the opposition when they've got the 'run of play' and apply strong pressure to our game plan (in the past, we had no answer and would wilt/go into our shells).
Injury prone players - we've a few too many of those.

Your excitements, interests, thoughts and concerns?



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Blah-Blah Bar / 9/11 Debate
From that list, I singled this one out and used science as went is different.

It's easy to lump all the eggs in the same basket with the heading conspiracy theory.

It's harder to look into things and think for yourself.
Science calls BS on 9/11!

If the US weren't so focussed on themselves they would realise that their 'story' has more holes than a fly screen and the rest of the world is starting to see through it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpXGMcohR8A

Richard Gage represents approx. 3,400 architects, globally, not satisfied with the official explanation of 9/11.
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Blah-Blah Bar / General Discussions
I wanted to comment on something and found no thread that was suitable and thought perhaps we need a thread for general, random discussion... ones that cannot and do not fit under any other heading/thread.

Just wanted to say how much I was enjoying the Zac D and Ross L discussions on the AFL website. Really good value and deeply authentic communications between the two. Insightful.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Christmas / NY
Just wanted to start a thread to wish all on this site, and visitors, all the very best for a safe and joyful holiday season.

Also, if you want, I and I assume others, might be interested in knowing what some of us are getting up to over the break.

First Christmas in ages that Mrs Baggers and I are taking it easy. Just the two of us on Christmas day and lots of visitors over the following week. Besides, the home renovation is now in the home stretch and I'm keen to finish it... and if I don't complete Mrs Baggers' timber outdoor setting there'll be 2/3rds of a pawnbrokers sign over our front door.

Cheers and very best folks...

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Robert Heatley Stand / 2019 & 2020 Thoughts
2019 Positives & Negatives:
On field:


Players who delivered, consistently: Cripps, E Curnow, Gibson, Jones, Newman, Simpson, Thomas, Walsh (Murphy later in the year).

Biggest disappoint(s) when compared to pre season expectations: Dow, Cuningham (the King Of Cameos), Fisher, Garlett, Pickett, Kennedy, Lang, McGovern (until fitter!!!!), Polson.     Northern Blues.

Surprise packet(s): Newman, Walsh.

DCMs: Garlett, Lang, Macreadie, Polson.

Sign him up for more years, now: Cripps.

We need/get him/them: Gun mid, gun small forward.

Off field:
Most encouraging activity/results: Membership and Member initiatives. Club’s involvement in community. Getting The Terrier to the club and now the Hawthorn psychologist as well. DT appointment.

Biggest disappointment (s): Bolton’s performance and subsequent removal & Board slow to react to BBs removal. Dow and Fisher failing to improve as hoped/expected. Obviously, injuries to key personnel. Judd embarrassing the club with foolish and ill-considered public comments.

We need/get him/her/them: New coach for the Northern Blues, DT gets the assistants he wants. More involvement from past champs… should be regular visitors to the club.

2020

Acceptable minimum wins: 11.

Players MUST: start well and stop periods in games where we concede 4-7 unanswered goals. Profound concentration and on-field leadership and discipline improvement. Cease to be the nice guys of the competition... time for some ruthlessness.

Player(s) who MUST improve: Cuningham, Dow, Fisher, McGovern, McKay’s kicking & thinking, Setterfield.

(crystal ball time) Player(s) who will surprise with their improvement: Deluca, McGovern, Setterfield.

Most looking forward to beating: Richmond and Hawthorn.

(crystal ball again) Our ladder position will be: 8 – 10.

AFL should: Prevent marquee players changing clubs to top 8 clubs. 'Equalization is happening' says Gil… lying pr1ck, I say.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Vale, Mike Williamson
Great commentator, great fella.

Immortalised Jezza with, "Jesaulenko, you beauty..."


RIP Mike. You were all class.
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Robert Heatley Stand / If Not BB, Who?
Some of us are beginning to seriously doubt that BB is the man to take this group forward, to the next step, if you like.

Some of us are happy to trust BB with our future (those words made me shudder!). I guess this thread is to give voice to those who believe change is worth considering.

I'll put my two bobs worth forward. I have grave concerns that BB is not the man from here on. He seems to lack imagination and creativity with his coaching, no 'brand' if you will. And opposition coaches seem to out coach him week in, week out.

I believe BB was the right person to 'sweet talk' us through the rebuild but now we need someone with strong experience. When I hear BB is BBQing and driving home with players, and falling in love with the players I just shake my head... reactive stuff (heard about Buckley and Co and decided to emulate... )

But who? Well, for those of us believing change at the top of the coaching tree should be considered and discussed.. who springs to mind? I'd probably put Teague in the top job soon, see how he does, and consider who takes over from next year.

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Ladies Lounge / Harf, AFLW Senior Coach of the Year
Voted by the AFLCA, Harf has been named the AFLW Senior Coach of the Year. Bloody ripper. Couldn't go to a more deserving, competent and damn terrific bloke.

I recall when Harf joined us during the 'dark years' (when will they end!) and at an open day watched him with the kids & parents. His ability to connect and communicate with them all regardless of age was authentic and just great. You knew then that this was a quality person and very, very smart... and superior coach material.

Congrats Harf, richly deserved.
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Blah-Blah Bar / 2019 - Predictions (some fun)
Bit of ‘nearest the pin’ fun for season 2019/a little something to help pass the time!!

At the end of the 2019 season you’ll find that:

Our ladder position is:   10th

Our leading goal kickers are (with number of goals):
1.   H (51)  
2.   Gov (48)    
3.   Faz & Charlie tie on (31)

Leading the tackle count is:
1.   E Curnow &  
2.   Zac F   

Most marks:
1.   Doc 
2.   Marchbank    

Surprise bolter/most improved is:  Garlett

Kid to emerge (fewer than 5 games at start of 2019):  TDK

Best 2 first year players:
1.   Walsh 
2.   Stocker   

Best 2 with 23-50 (by seasons end) career games:
1.   Dow 
2.   Setterfield  

Our B&F winner/Best Brownlow prospect:    Cripps

The bloke I’d really love to see have a ripper season/really show his potential:  SPS & Murph

(perhaps someone with a far better knowledge of the AFLW than me could set up something similar for the gals.)
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Robert Heatley Stand / When Is The Honeymoon Period Over?
Thought it might be a reasonable discussion for us to muse over when we believe the slack we members/supporters are cutting BB, SOS and Triggster re the 'reset', should be over and why. Finite goals must be set, it's when humans are at their best... open ended goals breed failure.

Yes, they're delivering on no more quick fixes and no more saviours. Ripper. Turning over the list and getting young talent into the place looks to be going well also. Ripper. So when does the consistent impressiveness start?

I don't buy the approx 5 year cr@p for a second. Most 5 year plans fail badly. 3 is good as there's enough tolerance in the first year to 18 months to rip things down, set the set the new foundations then restart ...but have some pressure build pretty soon after that to deliver or begin to deliver on the promises - and the bottom line is that we're building/doing all of this for the stated goal of 'sustained excellence'.

For me the honeymoon period must be over by the middle of next year., with obvious signs of strong improvement by the end of this year. Of course there could be mitigating circumstances such as unreasonable numbers of injuries.

(And by the way, Triggster... you owe us big time for removing Eddie from us to go to the Crows. So, how about a major coup/signing or two at the end of this year!!!!)

Thoughts?