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-12 goals on the captain's milestone game. Crippa asked the question who's stepping up? can anyone hear any answers? Anyone?

Quote from: Baggers – on July 04, 2025, 09:04:23 pm

Yes it does matter, a lot. Because he keeps picking them to play, and I am referring to senior players. As Professor noted, it's our senior blokes who are setting poor examples - poor leadership = demoralising.

Cmon mate, we made 6 changes this week. How many more can we make? You can only pick the soldiers that are fit and if we dropped everyone you and others wanted, we'd have to forfeit because we wouldn't have enough left to fill a side.

That can't fall on Voss.

Quote from: Baggers – on July 04, 2025, 09:04:23 pm

Yes it does matter, a lot. Because he keeps picking them to play, and I am referring to senior players. As Professor noted, it's our senior blokes who are setting poor examples - poor leadership = demoralising.

Cmon mate, we made 6 changes this week. How many more can we make? You can only pick the soldiers that are fit and if we dropped everyone you and others wanted, we'd have to forfeit because we wouldn't have enough left to fill a side.

That can't fall on Voss.

It doesn't matter how good of a coach Voss is.
Our (in)ability to find a teammate by hand and foot means that every game plan will fall over.

Just a bit from the current Captain acknowledging that these are tough times and mostly staying positive and bringing leadership and energy.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/carlton-blues/the-ones-that-want-to-step-away-blues-captain-sends-message-to-teammates-as-season-falls-apart/news-story/ddb59b100d4d589cd0c0d0b8dbe62ba3?fbclid=IwY2xjawLRMsZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETE4MVRQU05kemlkd2RxaGpEAR470eE2gaPILPBkKTwSF2D2CaVO0LUrDQHiWf6jPS3Q1TzPWjhC87c5I8I5-A_aem_tfW_8I909czXso6YBsuB-g

In amongst that were a couple of concerns.

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Carlton captain Patrick Cripps says he’s about to find out who among his teammates will “step up and dig in” amid a horror on-field run which moved one former player to suggest the Blues could consider trading the skipper.With the walls closing in, Cripps said now was the time he would find out a lot of about himself as a leader, and his teammates’ capacity to come through it all.

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“You find out a lot about yourself, I reckon, (in) these times, not only as a player but as a leader, but also (about) guys around you, the ones that really want to step up and dig in versus, like I said before, the ones that want to step away,” he said in the sit down with fellow Brownlow medallists Tom Mitchell and Lachie Neale.

You would think Cripps already knows this.
He's been playing with them for long enough.
He wouldn't be talking about the young players, and the suggestion is there is a group who, when the going gets a bit tough, some don't get going.

James Hird wants our kids in and the senior team playing the same game style as our VFL team, was impressed with kids like  Moir , Charleson, Carroll etc.
Tend to agree, need to drop senior players who are not taking us anywhere and go with the kids for the next 8 weeks...
Glad Luke Power seems to value the modern more expansive style than the 1960s game the seniors play.

Quote from: Baggers – on June 29, 2025, 08:43:38 am

That is the unknowable, Pauly, and such an assumption would be illogical to the extreme. But what we do know is that under Fly in this hypothetical, we would have had a different game plan and a different kind of leadership, and from there... who knows.

I disagree Baggers. In a complex system like a football club, one person cannot make that much of a difference. We’ve seen this often enough. There is an interplay between the individual and the group/ organisation.  They affect and transform each other to varying degrees. I’m not suggesting in any way that a coach makes no difference, but the balance of power is very much with the organisation, and the organisation shapes the individual a lot more than the other way round.

I should also add that I don’t believe our culture is c r a p. I think we’ve built some good foundations in the last few years, but there are clearly some pieces of the puzzle that are missing.

After 9 or 10 separate attempts, the “wrong bloke” ship has well and truly sailed. Are people seriously believing that if McRae was our coach we would be sitting 13-2 on the ladder?