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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Should Carlton train at night in 2014
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Who do you expect to have a breakout season in 2014?
At an AFL level, Menzel will make us ask Eddie who?
also Murphy to have a good rebound season, re-staking his claim as one of the best mids in the comp.
At a VFL level, Tom Temay will be banging down the door by the bye round. Another pre-season should do the fella well.
Mate, have you ever seen Temay play? Put another way, have you ever seen Temay play a dominant game at VFL level? Hope I'm wrong but I reckon all doors around him are safe.
The only bloke in our VFL side, who was a regular, who looked like banging down a door for senior selection was Nick Graham, and maybe a fit ROK. But, gee, after those two all other regulars (on our list) were not looking too threatening... few Preston boys were well ahead of most of our senior listed blokes.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2014 Leadership Group
Nath, part of a true leader's makeup is to be inspirational. If you are not inspirational you are not a true leader.
I think you are confusing leaders with managers.
Bullseye, Fluffy Biscuit the 2nd.
Inspiration is a big part of true leadership. Especially the ability to inspire the best from folk in a common direction toward a common goal.
To manipulate the William Arthur Ward quote a little... "The mediocre leader tells. The good leader explains. The very good leader demonstrates. The true leader inspires.
And I've always loved this one from Peter Drucker... "Leadership is lifting a person’s vision to high sights, the raising of a person’s performance to a higher standard, the building of a personality beyond its normal limitations."
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: 2014 Leadership Group
Let Daisy settle in for a year, then bring him into the leadership group (with him performing to expectations) in 2015.
No to Gibbs. Want him to focus on his game.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: R.I.P Lou Reed
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: The New Joke Thread
Iram was visiting his wealthy horse owner dear friend, Josiah. He noticed a magnificent horse in a holding pen out the back.
"Wow, Josiah, that is a very impressive horse. But can he run?"
"Can he run? Huh. Fastest horse I have ever bred. I am about to start racing him... will win everything." Josiah replied.
"How much?" Iram asked.
"Not for sale."
Iram continued to try and persuade Josiah to part with the magnificent steed... but Josiah would not budge.
Any way the two good Jewish buddies enjoyed some for food and win before Iram went home.
The next morning, to Josiah's horror, his magnificent steed was dead. However, being an enterprising Jewish dude and wondering if Iram was still interested in buying the horse, he telephoned him. "Iram, my dear friend, do you remember that magnificent horse you wanted to buy from me?"
"Remember!! A more magnificent animal I have never seen. I would pay anything." Iram said.
"Well, for $million you can have him... send me the bank cheque and upon receit I will send you the horse."
"Done."
Within 48 hours a bank cheque for one million dollars arrived which Josiah quickly banked. He then put the dead horse in a huge wooden crate and sent it to Iram.
Well, the days became weeks and weeks months, but still Josiah had not heard anything from his good friend Iram about the dead horse. Eventually, curiosity got the better of him and he called Iram. "Greeting Iram. Shalom. You know that horse I sent you... what happened? He was dead."
"I know," Iram said calmly.
"What, what ...?"
"I sold a million raffle tickets at 2 dollars each. Only one prize... the winner got the horse." Iram explained.
"But, Iram, the horse was dead! Didn't the winner complain?
" Josiah asked."Yes, of course he did. So I gave him back his two dollars."
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Who do you expect to have a breakout season in 2014?
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Juvenile Criminals - Should They Do Jail Time ??
But the 'softy' approach has little success, also.
There is a program that when kids commit serious crime they get to spend time with a hardened crim who paints a picture of their lives in and out of prison. They don't hold back in letting them know what will happen to them in prison... especially if they're a little 'attractive'. This has frightened the crap out of them and has been successful. Chopper helped out with this program also.... kids would leave a meeting with Chopper ashen faced and durps filled.
Then there's compensation. If parents know that there will be financial ramifications if their kids create mahem, it can straighten them out to. But too often bogan parents just take it out on the kids making the problem worse. There is an argument for sterilizing bogans so they can't breed
The families/people affected by juvenile crime should spend 'quality' time with the juve and his/her parents (all 5, 6, 7, 8... of them).
I worked for a month at Winlaton Detention Centre (for teenage girls) in the 80s. Tragedy was that more than 80% of these teens were going along nicely until sexually violated (at 5, or 8, or 11 or for years until they ran away). Their lives and personalities changed, often dramatically, after the violation.
As a point of interest, it was former Blue Glenn Manton's goal when setting up White Lion to intercept kids who left prison before they reconnected with their contaminated community. And then give them all the support they needed to help them become productive and happy members of society.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: The 2014 Fixture
I'm just glad we play Port and Geelong twice and not Hawthorn and Fremantle.
I suppose though, at the end of the day if we're going to be a legitimate contender we have to beat the best. I don't want to be the team that skates through on an easy draw. Lets just make sure we smash the Cheats, Pies and Tiges (in our one outing against them).
Poor form from the AFL though. Why exactly do we need to compete with the NRL's early start? If you're into AFL, the NRL season is irrelevant. It's not like there's going to be thousands of people tossing up between following an NRL team or an AFL team and they weekend they start is going to be the deciding factor. Carlton V Richmond at the G should always be the start to the season.
And that is exactly how we all should think. I hope we do play the Dawks twice.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Best Line Up - 2013 vs 2014
Love to participate, but assuming Docherty andI'm sure you could give it a crack mate
Okay.... I'll give it a lash based on what we actually have at this minute.
B. Walker. Watson. White.
HB. Tuohy. Jamison. Simpson.
C. Gibbs. Judd. Thomas.
HF. Menzel. Henderson. Yarran.
FF. Garlett. Waite. Kreuzer.
R. Warnock. Murphy. McLean.
I. Robinson. Armfield. Curnow. Bell.
E. Casboult. Graham. Carrazzo.
Fixed. Naughty and silly Baggers leaving out Thomas
Not a conscious decision, just a dumb error.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Chopper Read passes away
I think people 'liked' Chopper because he said he would only hurt criminals and not everyday folks
And he seemed to be a funny character. 
Probably says something about the empty and unfulfilled lives of many folks in the community.Personally I think his declared mental illness was a little worse than he admitted. Sad, pathetic and dangerous. Nothing to be admired.
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Robert Heatley Stand / Re: Best Line Up - 2013 vs 2014
Love to participate, but assuming Docherty andI'm sure you could give it a crack mate
Okay.... I'll give it a lash based on what we actually have at this minute.
B. Walker. Watson. White.
HB. Tuohy. Jamison. Simpson.
C. Gibbs. Judd. Thomas.
HF. Menzel. Henderson. Yarran.
FF. Garlett. Waite. Kreuzer.
R. Warnock. Murphy. McLean.
I. Robinson. Armfield. Curnow. Bell.
E. Casboult. Graham. Carrazzo.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Chopper Read passes away
Good interview with Chopper tonight on 60 Minutes.
Ch 9 seemed to promo his 60 Minutes appearance with 'revelations' etc. In the doco on Chopper a few years back he had already explained how 3 of the 4 met their demise. The 2002 'hit' was the only 'revelation'.
Still confused that he hadn't lost much weight... as I mentioned in a previous post, 2 relatives have died of liver failure and both were skeletons at the end. Perhaps there's a medico who understands this.
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Blah-Blah Bar / Re: Chopper Read passes away
The sad thing about Chopper is that he was born into this world with the rights that any human has. Sexual assault and a dysfunctional family model corrupted him to the extent that even when at deaths door he still has no apparent remorse or understanding of his own condition.
Typical of people who have had a hard start in life. They don't bitch and cry about the direction their life took. How they were treated, or why things eventuated the way they did. However they see everyone as being in the same boat, and the fact that all should suck up some concrete and harden up. Life being life, sick being sick, and death just being the end to a beginning. They feel sorry for very few, and no sorrow for how their life started or ended. Its sad that many never get the start most people do, and how they deal with it makes it very strange for most of us to understand. IMO its best to not feel pitty for any and just be glad we had different influences in our lives, and different directions to avoid a life of crime. Life shouldn't be so complicated, but unfortunately it is. I don't know how I ever felt about Chopper. I always struggled to understand his view on anything and in return found his interviews showed a lack of love, or connected emotion most people experience. I couldn't wish this life experience on any. Kids are born with honesty and innocence and then things can just go wrong in many ways.
The suck it up Princess way of thinking is not the answer to life if you think about it. Again like many times before, I will say it one more time. "There is not enough love in the world". The one thing that makes us humans. Animals act on instinct. Only humans act on love and passion. Once this is gone, we are no better than the animal kingdom. Making life survival and nothing more.
Green Stick. Mate. Wow. Impressive. (hope KRUDS doesn't see that you mentioned the word 'love' in your post... supposed to be about CFC stuff, not... as he told the GozzMan, personal stuff.)
Your post I read over and over. You dared acknowledge and express your heart felt thoughts (feelings) on the plight of a deeply damaged, hurt and troubled human being. Tells me you see the bigger picture... the humanity picture. Hope we can meet-up some day.