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Princes Park => Robert Heatley Stand => Topic started by: crashlander on May 25, 2023, 04:24:00 pm

Title: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: crashlander on May 25, 2023, 04:24:00 pm
The 2nds are playing their game at 1605 on Friday at the SCG.
No idea as to who will play yet, but we really need to step up: our results have not been great.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: crashlander on May 25, 2023, 09:01:33 pm
Still no lineup.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 04:31:16 pm
JSOS down back. Doing okay.
Binns just doesn't waste a possession... soon for a senior's call up?
Fisher busy, but wasting possessions... again.
Parks doing okay.
Young in the Magoos.
LOB busy.
Mirkov dominating the ruck.
Cincotta doing well.

Fluffy Ducks up by 3pts late in the 1st.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: kruddler on May 26, 2023, 04:33:55 pm
Guess that means Ed Curnow is our sub tonight
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 26, 2023, 04:36:47 pm
Like the ones, our last kick into the I50 area is horrid too often.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: LP on May 26, 2023, 04:37:15 pm
Guess that means Ed Curnow is our sub tonight
It's been pissing down all day in Sindney so it's not surprising.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 26, 2023, 04:37:25 pm
qtr time
2.4 Them
2.2 Us
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: townsendcalling on May 26, 2023, 04:38:30 pm
Swans yet to win a game so we should clean them up!
Fisher LOB busy, no sure what they are doing with Young, Mircov is coming on nicely in ruck work, needs more marking presence. Dow is Dow.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: townsendcalling on May 26, 2023, 04:39:09 pm
It's been pissing down all day in Sindney so it's not surprising.

No trouble with ball handling in the twos.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 04:40:11 pm
Qtr time, Fluffy Ducks by 2pts.

So many wasted inside 50 opportunities.
Fisher probably the stand out in the first for us. On the ball and getting plenty of it... damaging in the latter part of the first.
LOB busy.
Plowman pfft.
Young up forward.
Marchbank worked his way into the game.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: LP on May 26, 2023, 04:40:41 pm
It's going to be intriguing to see our tactics tonight, given our MC selections, it's a real test for Voss and his assistants!
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 04:42:32 pm
Guess that means Ed Curnow is our sub tonight
... or Fogarty
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: kruddler on May 26, 2023, 04:44:31 pm
... or Fogarty

Oh yeah, forgot about him.

Easy to do  :-[
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Lods on May 26, 2023, 04:56:01 pm
It's funny watching a game and hearing a sequence of play involving six players all with some serious senior background.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 26, 2023, 04:58:33 pm
Definitely playing with more run and dare, not as much stationary stuff.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 26, 2023, 05:01:34 pm
Marchbank is cooked as a footballer.
Plowman can  kick to save himself
I'd be shocked if we ever saw those two in the 1s again.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 26, 2023, 05:02:45 pm
Fisher doing well, 18 touches and a goal
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Lods on May 26, 2023, 05:03:02 pm
Definitely playing with more run and dare, not as much stationary stuff.

Carlton seconds are playing like Collingwood firsts....just nowhere near as efficient with their disposal.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 05:03:35 pm
Loving Cincotta's game.
Fisher staking a claim for next week in the seniors.
Bluebaggers by 18 at the 20 minute mark of the 2nd.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 26, 2023, 05:03:44 pm
Blues starting to roll now, with 16 AFL listed players playing, hard to imagine losing this one.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: rocky on May 26, 2023, 05:03:57 pm
Happy to see Plowman never return, but only 2nd game back for Marchbank so willing to give him a bit more time
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: rocky on May 26, 2023, 05:05:20 pm
Oh and O'Brien can go aswell
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 05:06:50 pm
Dom A continues to improve.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: rocky on May 26, 2023, 05:12:32 pm
JSOS trying to shoot a dart costs is a goal
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 05:13:04 pm
We've given away 4 dumb 50 metre penalties.
JSOS and Plowman liabilities down back.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: rocky on May 26, 2023, 05:14:07 pm
too many blokes trying to be cute
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Lods on May 26, 2023, 05:14:26 pm
Move Jack forward.
No ...into the middle.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: laj on May 26, 2023, 05:14:48 pm
Marchbank is cooked as a footballer.
Plowman can't kick to save himself
I'd be shocked if we ever saw those two in the 1s again.

Marchbank does have 13 touches thus far.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 05:16:38 pm
Half time. Bluebaggers by 9 pts.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Lods on May 26, 2023, 05:17:32 pm
Half time. Bluebaggers by 9 pts.

Should have been much more.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: townsendcalling on May 26, 2023, 05:20:35 pm
Marchbank is cooked as a footballer.
Plowman can  kick to save himself
I'd be shocked if we ever saw those two in the 1s again.
Still very underdone, 14 touches and 7 marks at half time, Marchy is progressing well as long as he stays on the park.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Lods on May 26, 2023, 05:21:39 pm
The thing about Jack Silvagni is that many people want to see him as a clone of his dad, a champion KPP when in fact he's much more like his grandfather an old ruck rover...
Stick him on the ball.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 26, 2023, 05:28:36 pm
Binns looks a footballer and is very similar to Hollands. Plowman and Marchbank have had a few touches but look yestersdays footballers and move like treacle. Jacks lack of pace is evident and probably not helped by the Swans midget lineup, his kicking is still iffy and he wont be returning to the seniors anytime soon based on this game.
Fisher has been good but I still have my doubts he can produce dominating games like tonight at senior level...Stephens has been doing the same for the Swans but was also dropped to the twos and given their injury list you have to question the lack of pressure in this game that is allowing both players to dominate.
Mirkovs tap work has been good but he has done nothing else, Cincotta has impressed me more than the other defenders and is more the modern prototype defender that can defend and carry the ball forward.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 05:33:28 pm
Should have been much more.

Yep, 12 more inside 50s!!
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: rocky on May 26, 2023, 05:36:01 pm
Surprised to see that the last 3 Swan goals were as a result of turnovers .... Seems to be endemic within this club
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: pinot on May 26, 2023, 05:37:43 pm
Mr Inconsistency Fishy doing his stock standard Mr Inconsistent stuff - not sold.

Jack needs another week maybe two to find touch

Dow and LOB keep missing their kicks

Lewis looks completely bereft of confidence.

Marchy looks ok after a very long lay off but needs more games - Kempy looked much better at VFL than Marchy and Plow combined. Marchy is a long way back.

Binns is a really good youngster with his style of game as he likes to bash and crash and sprint at full pelt on the wings just needs another 10 kilos on his body
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Lods on May 26, 2023, 05:49:12 pm
Now they're playing like the Carlton we know...and don't really love. :(
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Lods on May 26, 2023, 05:50:04 pm
That's a bit better.
 ;D
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 05:53:54 pm
Finally broke through the 4 gl mark. Bluebaggers by 26.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Lods on May 26, 2023, 05:56:14 pm
Akuei up forward.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 05:59:29 pm
Akuei up forward.

Changed with Young. Dom looks more a forward option than Young.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: rocky on May 26, 2023, 06:00:21 pm
Fisher just showing a bit
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: laj on May 26, 2023, 06:01:29 pm
Starting to crap on them now.

If it were the seniors I'd be as nervous as hell, haha, but not so much with the Twos.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: rocky on May 26, 2023, 06:06:54 pm
Dow has been butchering the ball all night and then kicks a goal?
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 06:07:14 pm
I wonder why Cowan isn't playing?
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 06:07:57 pm
Dow has been butchering the ball all night and then kicks a goal?

Absolutely, his disposal by foot has been woeful.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Lods on May 26, 2023, 06:08:06 pm
Fisher just showing a bit

Fisher's just a bit above this level as is Cincotta
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 06:08:34 pm
Bluebaggers by 34 at 3/4 time.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 06:10:11 pm
Fisher's just a bit above this level as is Cincotta

Yep. They're both standouts. Good to see Fisher lay some strong tackles.
Luke Parks deserves a mention.
Binns sure has a good footy brain and disposal, just needs to get a bit more of the aggot.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: rocky on May 26, 2023, 06:11:53 pm
Fisher's just a bit above this level as is Cincotta
Yes Lods, bar one mistake has been pretty good. Really like the way he does the give and go. Talking about Cincotta by the way
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 06:12:48 pm
Love to get excited about some of the efforts out there... but we are playing a seriously depleted side. Still, you can only play who you're up against (Socrates  ;D ).
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: rocky on May 26, 2023, 06:23:45 pm
JSOS is kicking nearly as badly as Dow
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Lods on May 26, 2023, 06:30:42 pm
Probably about where it should be now in terms of a result

Fisher and Cincotta have done their senior chances no harm
Binns is knocking at the door
Silvagni may benefit from another week.
Dow could get a 100 possessions but won't get a game.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 06:30:57 pm
Bluebaggers by 53
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 06:33:57 pm
Gee Marchbank is clean with his disposals, and reads the game so well.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: PaulP on May 26, 2023, 06:43:05 pm
Hopefully a good omen for the seniors game.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 26, 2023, 06:44:14 pm
Bluebaggers win by 52pts.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: rocky on May 26, 2023, 07:12:42 pm
Some positives from an AFL perspective in this game;
Fisher - pretty polished, got plenty of it. Could be a replacement for one of the smalls in the seniors
Marchbank - got through the game unscathed (I hope). Some nice work throughout.
Binns - continues to show form and may well come in next week?
Cincotta - played well, runs hard and generally delivers well. Good backup
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 29, 2023, 12:19:04 am
Video circulating on twitter of Crocker (our 2s captain) at the Collinwood game with a Coll scarf. Not a good look.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: spf on May 29, 2023, 01:17:27 am
Video circulating on twitter of Crocker (our 2s captain) at the Collinwood game with a Coll scarf. Not a good look.

He is not on an AFL list, he doesn't have to support Carlton, currently the 2nd's (VFL), is where he works and that's it. There are probably many VFL players that don't feel 'part' of the club because we do not really treat them that way.

The VFL is a development squad and that is it. I have said repeatedly on this site that we should build a winning culture by developing our VFL team with a view to winning regularly and competing to win the title. Our seniors are not capable, we would at least have the reserves to look at - in fact I would rather support a winning seconds team most weeks that watch the seniors play.

I can well understand Crocker's affiliation with the Pies, that was the club he 'really' played for and probably still makes him feel welcome.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: RiverRat on May 29, 2023, 01:43:39 am
Video circulating on twitter of Crocker (our 2s captain) at the Collinwood game with a Coll scarf. Not a good look.

Crocker is not a good look - period
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Gointocarlton on May 29, 2023, 07:07:27 am
He is not on an AFL list, he doesn't have to support Carlton, currently the 2nd's (VFL), is where he works and that's it. There are probably many VFL players that don't feel 'part' of the club because we do not really treat them that way.

The VFL is a development squad and that is it. I have said repeatedly on this site that we should build a winning culture by developing our VFL team with a view to winning regularly and competing to win the title. Our seniors are not capable, we would at least have the reserves to look at - in fact I would rather support a winning seconds team most weeks that watch the seniors play.

I can well understand Crocker's affiliation with the Pies, that was the club he 'really' played for and probably still makes him feel welcome.
Fair points, I think given our predicament, many will try and use it to stir the pot (ie not united) as per the tweets where I saw it suggested.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: kruddler on May 29, 2023, 07:13:59 am
Is it a recent video or an old one from when he was actually on their list?

If it's recent, is he about to be drafted in the msd.
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Baggers on May 29, 2023, 08:24:07 am
Crocker is not a good look - period
Astonishes me that he is the captain of our Magoos. When I think of Crocker, I don't think 'leadership.'
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: Lods on May 29, 2023, 09:23:35 am
Astonishes me that he is the captain of our Magoos. When I think of Crocker, I don't think 'leadership.'

I guess it has to be someone who is never going to play senior football which narrows it down to non-listed Carlton players....or Paddy Dow
Title: Re: VFL 2023 Rd 10 Carlton vs Sydney in Sydney
Post by: ElwoodBlues1 on May 29, 2023, 11:29:00 am
Astonishes me that he is the captain of our Magoos. When I think of Crocker, I don't think 'leadership.'
Been around the block to a few clubs so he is probably getting the job based on experience given we have so many kids, newbies and raw non listed players and its a very small window of players to pick from.
Im struggling to come up with alternatives....